"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=BrownSugaTwo;6952170]My boy missed out; she made him cover up: no cream pies for him, LOL. He's not white, so maybe that had something to do with it. Given that she is / was high volume, I suppose it's for the best. Not that I'm judging, I'm currently sort of in love with an SB that has a history of gangbangs. And likely has a boyfriend. It was all bare from day one (she just slid it in there), and I'm so intoxicated by her that I just can't stop. She's thick as hell and a doll. I'm sure she's crazy outside of an SB relationship, but I just can't help but fall under her spell. Sometimes, I really hate how vulnerable I am to that slit between these girls' legs, but it is what it is.[/QUOTE]Man, you just nailed it BS2. That intoxication can be amazing to the point of temporary insanity LOL.

But so grateful I have had those experiences. Some guys never do.

For the record, I'm the cheap guy these ladies are complaining about. My professional sales background won't allow me to just foot these ladies request. I negotiate for everything while requesting to pay as little as possible. It is what it is. As for NattyNat. I walked out on her. She seemed too planned out and scripted. I enjoy a more natural flow to things.

Seeking and SDM are typically not for the cheap at heart. However, I've had the most amazing time with many different ladies. These ladies have been uterly beautiful, young and very talented. When I was in my twenties, I had to shoot game and hope the fine ones would give me a chance. Then I had to call them often and take them on dates only praying that their 3 month minimum or 6 date rule had been met for me to get a sniff. I banged my share and a few other guys share back then. But I had to pay substantially. This was when I made far less money.

Now, thanks to being SD age, I can just window shop. Ask how much. Ask what they are cool with before even seeing them in person. I'm spending far less and because these ladies want to continue the arrangement; am getting way more effort and skill than ever. It's a win win for me.

There have been sooooo many from Seeking. All full bare cip. Some are into much more; however I'm normally not thinking about getting a pic. But sometimes I just stood and looked at my meal before I devoured it and the thought of documenting the moment did creep into my mind. So enjoy LOL. At this point I can't even imagine not taking the easy route. As I'm approaching 50, ladies no longer look anything like this. I may be addicted. Shoot, I think this is way better vice than drugs or anything else.

GLHF.

[QUOTE=Roddee;6957629]For the record, I'm the cheap guy these ladies are complaining about......[/QUOTE]Spending less for more is call being SMART!

Well done, my friend, very well done.

I am also a big fan of Ebony spinners.

TG9.

[QUOTE=Airmantroy;6956837][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f79ecfb1-50af-4037-8247-23589e4013d3[/URL][/QUOTE]This girl stole from me. She can't be trusted and you shouldn't put any money time or effort into her. Pussy is also loose.

[QUOTE=Lookinatl;6958082]This girl stole from me. She can't be trusted and you shouldn't put any money time or effort into her. Pussy is also loose.[/QUOTE]I'm not planning on seeing her, but how about some details for anybody who might want to risk it?

[QUOTE=DrSummer;6956466]Wanted to get expert opinion on overnight rates with SBs. I am just over 62 and in good shape for the age and average looking. I have been in the game for more than 5 years, only one time I did overnight with a girl (I still see her). In her case, I give her 400 for the night. My typical ppm rate is 300-400 for few hours (typically 2 pops). The max I have given is 500 ppm (for a super cute Latina). I am talking to this 22 year old College senior. White girl, slim, no tattoos, face I would give 9 and body 8. I had phone calls and video calls with her and confirmed she is real and photos are of her. She literally gave me all information about her, I know her real name, and all background checks come clear and what she says in her profile is 100% true. She told me that she had one arrangement before and he gave her 600 ppm. When I asked about how much time we can spend, she gave me two options, either meet in the afternoon and spend few hours or meet after 7 pm and spend the night. She didn't give different rates for these options. For few hours, I would have definitely given her 400. I am wondering rather than negotiating the ppm just go for 600 for overnight. Based on the conversation so far, everything is super smooth and she seems to be a very nice girl. Just wanted put this scenario to you guys and get the feedback if I could have done something differently. I am tempted to go for 600 overnight (and I can afford it based on my budget if I limit to 4 meet ups per month).

Play safe.

Dr. S.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Leep12;6957502]This girl sounds like a semi pro. I never talked about time / hours / overnight extras. If the girl doesn't like you enough to sleep over when you offer then forget it. I would just tell them we are going to blank Hotel and tell her I'm spending the night there. Would be cool if you want to stay over also. I never pushed it on the first date / meeting.[/QUOTE]Leep has the right of it. You shouldn't compare SBs to escorts. If you're thinking of $/ hr then just go ahead and get an escort and skip the hassle and monthly membership fee for SBs. I'm paying for a DATE not for a certain amount of time. The date may consist of a couple of hours, or it could mean they stay overnight. But NEVER, EVER think you need to pay extra for more time. That's just escort / john thinking. Don't let yourself get conned into thinking like a John.

She is nice and has a nice apartment. But she wants you to get in and get out. She used her mouth less than a minute and started asking if I was ready. I said no, keep going, and she wouldn't keep a rhythm—kept stopping and spitting. Then after a couple minutes she started complaining that her mouth hurt and she was dizzy and all kinds of other stuff. I couldn't even get hard, so I left. Her breath is just terrible.

[QUOTE=BumbaCloth;6861120]Any info on her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c739077a-2db3-430d-bfb5-35f8050ecba3[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Drew75;6959691]She is nice and has a nice apartment. But she wants you to get in and get out. She used her mouth less than a minute and started asking if I was ready. I said no, keep going, and she wouldn't keep a rhythmkept stopping and spitting. Then after a couple minutes she started complaining that her mouth hurt and she was dizzy and all kinds of other stuff. I couldn't even get hard, so I left. Her breath is just terrible.[/QUOTE]I couldn't even get past the texting stage with her. I asked for a meet and greet beforehand (part of my weed out strategy), and she wouldn't go for it. Just wanted in and out. I bailed after a few texts.

Thank you all who responded to my post. I scheduled a coffee meet with her this Friday evening. Depending on the vibe I get in person, I will decide on going on for overnight or not. So far all the vibes I am getting are very very positive. She didn't mention about the ppm anymore and I didn't ask either. My gut says this is going to go well. But I will of course try to use my big head. LOL. I will report back the outcome.

Play safe.

Dr. S.

It tells me I have to purchase with bitcoin and contact support.

Hey gents -.

I've never tried the SB approach. I'm wondering if you guys post pics on your profile or share them with SBs? I prefer to remain very discreet. So wouldn't want to share pics until we do a video chat. Is that even worth it? Or will I not get any decent responses to my initial inquiries without a pic to post or share?

DM is ok too. I appreciate your advice!

[QUOTE=LuvitAtl;6960587]Hey gents -.

I've never tried the SB approach. I'm wondering if you guys post pics on your profile or share them with SBs? I prefer to remain very discreet. So wouldn't want to share pics until we do a video chat. Is that even worth it? Or will I not get any decent responses to my initial inquiries without a pic to post or share?

DM is ok too. I appreciate your advice![/QUOTE]I used to have very blurry pics, but Seeking seems to not allow that anymore. My suggestion is to do a photo search and find someone that isn't famous, but has somewhat similar age and physical characteristics. You can sometimes get lucky and find someone that has multiple pictures you can use. I will share a real pic once we start chatting off the site, but make sure it's not a pic you have ever used online just to make image searching a little harder. Most women are not surprised when a guy doesn't use real pics, but I have had a couple of instances where they were pissed and ended it as soon as I told them.

[QUOTE=Drew75;6959691]She is nice and has a nice apartment. But she wants you to get in and get out. She used her mouth less than a minute and started asking if I was ready. I said no, keep going, and she wouldn't keep a rhythmkept stopping and spitting. Then after a couple minutes she started complaining that her mouth hurt and she was dizzy and all kinds of other stuff. I couldn't even get hard, so I left. Her breath is just terrible.[/QUOTE]You're the second or third person that said she's an in & out bandit and a complainer either you're taking too long to bust or you're going too hard. Plus her pics are outdated someone else said.

[QUOTE=LuvitAtl;6960587]Hey gents -.

I've never tried the SB approach. I'm wondering if you guys post pics on your profile or share them with SBs? I prefer to remain very discreet. So wouldn't want to share pics until we do a video chat. Is that even worth it? Or will I not get any decent responses to my initial inquiries without a pic to post or share?

DM is ok too. I appreciate your advice![/QUOTE]I agree with 2 me. Think you would be at a big disadvantage without any pics, these girls complain about all the fakes etc. Many will think you are a waste of time.

I used my own pics on SA. I did use some "borrowed" photos for a Tender dating account. Find someone reasonably close to your look and build.

It's not easy, I ended up stealing some FB photos from a guy I went to HS with. I figured no harm since we aren't in the same state.

[QUOTE=Lookinatl;6958082]This girl stole from me. She can't be trusted and you shouldn't put any money time or effort into her. Pussy is also loose.[/QUOTE]Good to know as I have been talking with her for a year or so and was looking to have her to my place overnight (with cash and some valuables locked in my gun safe). I will now delete her.