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[QUOTE=Sexxy10;1604085]I didn't do anything. Do you know Leo is watching? You say watch out for white dodges. Did leo call to tell you this, ha ha yeah sure, or R U LEO? What you say is crap. Did BP call you and tell you I did this. Yeah that will never happen. They don't inform people who reported them. I never did a thing you say. You story is a lie. LEO Get A Life your buddy Vic ran a new ad last sat, saying it was her birthday, begging for tips. You don't even know what's going on. GOSSIPING is bad for you![/QUOTE]You said I had her thrown off BP. If I did why did her ad post today? Keep it up Karma will bite you in the but-LIAR

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[QUOTE=Sexxy10;1604085]I didn't do anything. Do you know Leo is watching? You say watch out for white dodges. Did leo call to tell you this, ha ha yeah sure, or R U LEO? What you say is crap. Did BP call you and tell you I did this. Yeah that will never happen. They don't inform people who reported them. I never did anything you say. You story is a lie, LEO Get A Life your buddy Vic ran a new ad last sat, saying it was her birthday, begging for tips. You don't even know what's going on. GOSSIPING is bad for you![/QUOTE]Please, please, please, please get the hell off this board. You constant drama queen crap is getting really old. First off did I read right, did you just publicly accuse WJ, a respected and well liked member of being LEO? What the hell are you thinking? Secondly you should not be discussing yourself on the "backpage", "massage parlor" or any other forum. This is where Guys discuss the girls. At best you should be "advertising" only in the escort classified section.

I see that Jackson has removed a few of your inflammatory post. I suspect her will tire of that and delete your profile. One can only hope.

At this point your reputation is shot here. It certainty is with me. If you were the last "provider" on earth, I would use a barbed wire glove and gasoline as a lubricant for relief before I used you for services.

I've been trying to see Lacy for several months but never was able to work it out. But I finally got lucky the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Her place was easy to find but I'm not real fond of that area. She is much prettier in person than her pics. I won't go into a lot of details the one's that have seen her know. But for those that haven't. I highly recommend her. She is very pretty, all natural Kitty which I love. Very nice and very accommodating and I never felt rushed. I will definitely see her again the first chance I get. I would highly recommend her. The only negative in the entire for me was the area where she lives. Be safe out there and as always YMMV.

Dewayne

[QUOTE=Sexhoundtn2; 1605196]Please, please, please, please get the hell off this board. You constant drama queen crap is getting really old. First off did I read right, did you just publicly accuse WJ, a respected and well liked member of being LEO? What the hell are you thinking? Secondly you should not be discussing yourself on the "backpage","massage parlor" or any other forum. This is where Guys discuss the girls. At best you should be "advertising" only in the escort classified section.

I see that Jackson has removed a few of your inflammatory post. I suspect her will tire of that and delete your profile. One can only hope.

At this point your reputation is shot here. It certainty is with me. If you were the last "provider" on earth, I would use a barbed wire glove and gasoline as a lubricant for relief before I used you for services.[/QUOTE]First and foremost everything he has said is not true, none of it. Second have you met WJ personally! I'm not the only lady on here. You guys can discuss what you want to, but when it involes lies about me I will say something. Also who is Jackson? I guess you are going to say they called you and told a name from this site. Well that doesn't happen either! I did publicly accuse WJ because he said I'm being watched PUBLICLY Last but not least, I am and will never be an escort. Her, maybe VIC. YEAH, no way Don't join in on WJ 's cackle group. Gossiping use to be little old ladies. Ha, I guess the little old men have there own cackle group. Barbed wire glove and gasoline 'huh, you like that. That's kinky. Sorry if thats all you have. I was not told I could'nt join. I had to to reply to the lies about me. I know it hurt's you that a real lady is on here. No more lies. Don't stand up for words GOSSIP you here online, when you don't know anything about me! R

[QUOTE=Demosthenes; 1603852]Well, there are two market pressures at work. One, it is illegal (even if the particular service itself isn't expressly illegal, it'll be treated that way by Uncle LEO until a court convicts you or lets you go). Two, the economy is shitty and even getting a part time minimum wage job (that won't support you at all) isn't easy. It WILL continue, in one form or another. Just like despite the War on Drugs, I can take ten minutes out of my life and acquire almost anything I could ever want if I were into drugs. Even if these ladies (and in some cases gentlemen) were shot on sight without a trial, it would STILL happen.

In the past two years, I've had quite a bit of take out from bars and such. Any time a hot chick takes the initiative and I feel her out a little, I straight up ask her. She gives me straight up prices. I agree or deny. Had a lot of good experiences with these girls, for VERY reasonable prices. I'd say five experiences total, four of them being top notch and awesome. One was just alright, got my money's worth for sure, but wasn't as good as the others, and this was only because poor girl's boyfriend was blowing her phone up the whole time and it was stressing her out (even after she put it on silent). All of them were college girls.

That being said, LEO is hitting up all the 'classic' areas. The bad side of town, the strip clubs, the massage parlors. All of those places have been being hit by LEO for a couple of months now. Strip club girls have complained that they get hassled by LEO and management if they have to get a ride home and the driver happens to be male. Any centralized system is vulnerable to attack at the center, but an intelligent centralized system will try to adapt. In this case, spread to other areas. Eventually the system will be so spread out that LEO will be forced to go against individual UTR providers, which would take hours and hours of work each, and be deemed not worth it. Eventually there will be an equilibrium where LEO has to stop pushing (or devote ALL their resources to it) , and the girls will be a lot more UTR but certainly out there.[/QUOTE]I read these posts that says Nashville has been dead for a long tine, but there are 10 times more ladys advertising in Nashville then in Knoxville. What am I missing here? Besides, Atlanta is the same distance as Nashville, and it is wide open.

[QUOTE=RJHunter;1605639]I read these posts that says Nashville has been dead for a long tine, but there are 10 times more ladys advertising in Nashville then in Knoxville. What am I missing here? Besides, Atlanta is the same distance as Nashville, and it is wide open.[/QUOTE]But in Nashville only 1 out of those 10 is a legit provider. With all the scams, LEO ads, cash N dash girls and girls who provide poor service Nashville backpage sucks. Nashville is not compleatly dead but, Alot of those reports come from people who remember Nashville in the 80s & 90s. Ktown and Atlanta are much better than Nashville but, Trust me compaired to back then it is dead.

We all knew how out-there the S. H. A. I Organization is and that Marcus Washington suffers from delusions of grandeur. He really out did him self with his rantings of a madman manifesto. On the one hand I never laughed so hard trying to read all this BS while at the same time reminds me a little of Theodore Kaczynski "Unabomber".

BTW he also attacks all the independent providers calling them stupid and hopes they all end up as guests of Uncle Leo's bed and breakfast.

I personally think you have to be stupid to let S. H. A. I (Marcus Washington) have all your personal information. I hope the ladies of Knoxville stay away from this organization (cult) and stay independent.

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/its-cyber-monday-and-all-of-us-are-available-25/6681605[/url]

[QUOTE=KnoxYankee; 1606028]We all knew how out-there the S. H. A. I Organization is and that Marcus Washington suffers from delusions of grandeur. He really out did him self with his rantings of a madman manifesto. On the one hand I never laughed so hard trying to read all this BS while at the same time reminds me a little of Theodore Kaczynski "Unabomber".

B[/QUOTE]I thought they were scary with previous rantings on redistributing everybody else stuff. Which I took as redistributing to themselves. About the same time there was a posted brag on "redistributing" drugs from pharmacies.

This one tops it. I'm with you. I wouldn't let them have any info on me. Really really wouldn't want them to know where I lived.

[QUOTE=Hottie24;1600632]Ty for the insight.[/QUOTE]I post in massage because that's what I do. I do not escort.

[QUOTE=Sexxy10;1605617]First and foremost everything he has said is not true, none of it. Second have you met WJ personally! I'm not the only lady on here. You guys can discuss what you want to, but when it involes lies about me I will say something. Also who is Jackson? I guess you are going to say they called you and told a name from this site. Well that doesn't happen either! I did publicly accuse WJ because he said I'm being watched PUBLICLY Last but not least, I am and will never be an escort. Her, maybe VIC. YEAH, no way Don't join in on WJ 's cackle group. Gossiping use to be little old ladies. Ha, I guess the little old men have there own cackle group. Barbed wire glove and gasoline 'huh, you like that. That's kinky. Sorry if thats all you have. I was not told I could'nt join. I had to to reply to the lies about me. I know it hurt's you that a real lady is on here. No more lies. Don't stand up for words GOSSIP you here online, when you don't know anything about me! R[/QUOTE]How can you say you are not an escort? You told Victoria aka BigCountry that you provide full service, etc. As well as Bluford as reported repeatedly about all the full service things he was done to you that many escorts wouldn't even allow?

Rene, you are a low end ESCORT. Not saying you're bad nor that your services are bad, but you are an escort. Now please go away and keep quiet.

[QUOTE=Dr Holiday; 1606091]I thought they were scary with previous rantings on redistributing everybody else stuff. Which I took as redistributing to themselves. About the same time there was a posted brag on "redistributing" drugs from pharmacies.

This one tops it. I'm with you. I wouldn't let them have any info on me. Really really wouldn't want them to know where I lived.[/QUOTE]I just was reminded of another time when such radical and dangerous rantings where made public by a group and it was the Symbionese Liberation Army-SLA. Made infamous by Patty Hearst with their radical anarchist "power to the people"/Anti Capitalism jive.

Allot of the same SLA kind of crap mixed in with the mad rantings of the "unabomber".

Marcus Washington and S. H. A. I the 1970's is calling as it's time to get back into your V. W. Camper Van and go back to your hallucinogenic induced nightmares and take a long trip.

[QUOTE=KnoxYankee; 1606188]I just was reminded of another time when such radical and dangerous rantings where made public by a group and it was the Symbionese Liberation Army-SLA. Made infamous by Patty Hearst with their radical anarchist "power to the people"/Anti Capitalism jive.

Allot of the same SLA kind of crap mixed in with the mad rantings of the "unabomber".

Marcus Washington and S. H. A. I the 1970's is calling as it's time to get back into your V. W. Camper Van and go back to your hallucinogenic induced nightmares and take a long trip.[/QUOTE]Get back to them. LOL Hell looks like he is on some pretty good ones right now. Can't help but think he is just putting a large bullseye on his forehead though. Now he has providers, mongers and LEO down on him. Just ask some of the agency operators how that shit worked out for them in Nashville a few years back. Well that is if you can find them in that deep hole LEO put them in.

[QUOTE=KnoxYankee; 1606188]I just was reminded of another time when such radical and dangerous rantings where made public by a group and it was the Symbionese Liberation Army-SLA. Made infamous by Patty Hearst with their radical anarchist "power to the people"/Anti Capitalism jive.

Allot of the same SLA kind of crap mixed in with the mad rantings of the "unabomber".

Marcus Washington and S. H. A. I the 1970's is calling as it's time to get back into your V. W. Camper Van and go back to your hallucinogenic induced nightmares and take a long trip.[/QUOTE]No doubt, Marcus is one crazy SOB, but he is right about all of the BS. We don't need any more bad press. WTF the drama is overwhelming between Victoria and Rene. You ladies, and I use the turm loosely, should shut the fuck up. Again I say, guys be easy with the info. PM each other about the ladies and we will eventualy find out who the leak is. Hasn't anyone ever read Tom Clancy's "Canary Trap"?

As for myself, I plan to get laid tomorrow.

Nick

Looks like they have caught her too 24 hr arrest list possible that she had drugs on her too so it's states on the list. Backpage was never safe to me I'll stick to the streetwalkers I do strongly believe that we could be video taped when seeing a backpage girl I don't need that drama.

[QUOTE=Sexxy10;1606095]I post in massage because that's what I do. I do not escort.[/QUOTE]When I saw you on a Saturday evening 4 or 5 months back. The visit consisted of about 5 minutes of you laying out lingerie for me you choose from. To which I could have cared less about because I prefer a woman to be fully nude during sex. Then you did give me a short back massage maybe 5 mins or so. Then the next 45 to 50 mins consisted of DATY. BBBJ.then you covered things up started with cow girl to mish finishing up in doggie. Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining about you. I had a really good time but like everyone else I'm tired off reading all the drama. You are an escort you provide sex for money. But like the title says call it " Whatever helps you sleep at night "

[QUOTE=Dewayne1966;1607311]When I saw you on a Saturday evening 4 or 5 months back. The visit consisted of about 5 minutes of you laying out lingerie for me you choose from. To which I could have cared less about because I prefer a woman to be fully nude during sex. Then you did give me a short back massage maybe 5 mins or so. Then the next 45 to 50 mins consisted of DATY. BBBJ.then you covered things up started with cow girl to mish finishing up in doggie. Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining about you. I had a really good time but like everyone else I'm tired off reading all the drama. You are an escort you provide sex for money. But like the title says call it " Whatever helps you sleep at night "[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time, but constantly I hear don't talk about experiences in detail, uncle leo is watching. All on here is lies. I've met none of the people talking about me, and now you say escort. College educated, own my own business. Massage on side. This all started with a text from Vickey to me, threatening, months ago. Now, everyone wants to get there 1 cents worth in! First off a little schooling. Escort by Webster means you accompanying another, or as protection or courtesy. Massage means remedial or hygienic treatment of the body by manipulation. I am not an escort, I don't play arm candy for men, no escort, I do massage. Check me here. If members would quit posting lies about me, I would stop. I have to stand up for myself, and I will when I need to! R

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I'm sick of seeing this drama on here please take it somewhere else like Facebook alot of your posts do not even get posted because even Jackson is sick of hearing your crap. God woman leave this board alone!

First time poster, long time monger. I've met lots of the local ladies and some of the traveling ones too, and have also been a long time reader of this forum.

I have been trying to find any info on Nina with the hot pictures on Backpage:

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-am-as-sweet-as-cristmas-candy-and-as-hot-as-a-fire-ball-24/6112397[/url]

Other than a review on October 10 that was confusing and said she used fake pics, I haven't been able to find anything. And with the crackdown by LE lately I don't want to walk in to a setup. She advertises on here as Hottie24 and just said on another thread that Hottie24 was her. Has any of the seniors actually seen her? If you have, is she for real, and are her pictures really her?

Had ok dream last week about a girl named Victoria. In my dream Victoria looked exactly as the pictures we've all seen. Young, thin brunette with fairly wide hips, which I like. Got down to business and all was covered. Service was ok. Nothing special. Drug problems are a huge turnoff in real life and in my dreams.

Good luck and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=AlbertStroller; 1608572]First time poster, long time monger. I've met lots of the local ladies and some of the traveling ones too, and have also been a long time reader of this forum.

I have been trying to find any info on Nina with the hot pictures on Backpage:

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-am-as-sweet-as-cristmas-candy-and-as-hot-as-a-fire-ball-24/6112397[/url]

Other than a review on October 10 that was confusing and said she used fake pics, I haven't been able to find anything. And with the crackdown by LE lately I don't want to walk in to a setup. She advertises on here as Hottie24 and just said on another thread that Hottie24 was her. Has any of the seniors actually seen her? If you have, is she for real, and are her pictures really her?[/QUOTE]Yes I am real I'm not a cop nor do I work with them. Also FYI a lot of girls on her use fake pics for these reasons. Cop's or they have family, a husband, girlfriend, boyfriend, fiance or there are physcos. Send me a text if you want to meet me. I only work days and Mon-Fri.

I've seen Victoria twice and it saddens me that both times she didn't seem very into her job specially after trying to get her to open up and at least seem happy. Seems all the reviews say the same thing. Really sucks cause this girl really has the body and looks to go far. Sorry but I don't think YMMV. Good day.

Nbo.

[QUOTE=Polishedbronze; 1608588]Had ok dream last week about a girl named Victoria. In my dream Victoria looked exactly as the pictures we've all seen. Young, thin brunette with fairly wide hips, which I like. Got down to business and all was covered. Service was ok. Nothing special. Drug problems are a huge turnoff in real life and in my dreams.

Good luck and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlbertStroller; 1608572]First time poster, long time monger. I've met lots of the local ladies and some of the traveling ones too, and have also been a long time reader of this forum.

I have been trying to find any info on Nina with the hot pictures on Backpage:

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-am-as-sweet-as-cristmas-candy-and-as-hot-as-a-fire-ball-24/6112397[/url]

Other than a review on October 10 that was confusing and said she used fake pics, I haven't been able to find anything. And with the crackdown by LE lately I don't want to walk in to a setup. She advertises on here as Hottie24 and just said on another thread that Hottie24 was her. Has any of the seniors actually seen her? If you have, is she for real, and are her pictures really her?[/QUOTE]I booked an appointment with Nina for this morning. As the time came she turned her phone off? Good luck with her, I'm done.

[QUOTE=Nickn3;1609505]I booked an appointment with Nina for this morning. As the time came she turned her phone off? Good luck with her, I'm done.[/QUOTE]A couple weeks ago I too tried to see Nina and at the given time she did not answer my call either. Sometime last week after everyone else I tried was booked, I saw her ad again and again tried to see her (I guess I'm a sucker). Well this time she did answer and we met at a hotel in the Cedar Bluff area. The girl in the picture is not the girl that I met. Nina is very sexy with a euro accent and a butt to die for. Overall a very nice girl, she wanted a massage from me and the deed seemed a little awkward for us (maybe just a chemistry thing). Nice girl, very sex, very cautious. YMMV.

If you can't be good. Don't get caught.

Skraps

[QUOTE=Skrapsbor1; 1609743]A couple weeks ago I too tried to see Nina and at the given time she did not answer my call either. Sometime last week after everyone else I tried was booked, I saw her ad again and again tried to see her (I guess I'm a sucker). Well this time she did answer and we met at a hotel in the Cedar Bluff area. The girl in the picture is not the girl that I met. Nina is very sexy with a euro accent and a butt to die for. Overall a very nice girl, she wanted a massage from me and the deed seemed a little awkward for us (maybe just a chemistry thing). Nice girl, very sex, very cautious. YMMV.

If you can't be good. Don't get caught.

Skraps[/QUOTE]I too, in the past, tried to see Nina. You text her, she might answer, disappears in the middle of texting, won't answer her phone even though you are texting with her, refuses to talk on the phone, plays games, her pic are not of her. Definately something not right here. Dream with extreme caution.

[QUOTE=GunRunner1;1610034]I too, in the past, tried to see Nina. You text her, she might answer, disappears in the middle of texting, won't answer her phone even though you are texting with her, refuses to talk on the phone, plays games, her pic are not of her. Definately something not right here. Dream with extreme caution.[/QUOTE]Don't know about the third one.

[QUOTE=Skrapsbor1; 1609743]A couple weeks ago I too tried to see Nina and at the given time she did not answer my call either. Sometime last week after everyone else I tried was booked, I saw her ad again and again tried to see her (I guess I'm a sucker). Well this time she did answer and we met at a hotel in the Cedar Bluff area. The girl in the picture is not the girl that I met. Nina is very sexy with a euro accent and a butt to die for. Overall a very nice girl, she wanted a massage from me and the deed seemed a little awkward for us (maybe just a chemistry thing). Nice girl, very sex, very cautious. YMMV.

If you can't be good. Don't get caught.

Skraps[/QUOTE]Thats odd. Also enjoy your straight up posts Skraps and not doubting what you say at all, but another review by a verified member on that other site said, he met Nina and she was nothing special and a country girl from Sweetwater. When I spoke to her via phone she also had a very country tang. Maybe its a couple girls with similar looks running the ads?

[QUOTE=BallBuster;1610451]Thats odd. Also enjoy your straight up posts Skraps and not doubting what you say at all, but another review by a verified member on that other site said, he met Nina and she was nothing special and a country girl from Sweetwater. When I spoke to her via phone she also had a very country tang. Maybe its a couple girls with similar looks running the ads?[/QUOTE]Ok 1st off I'm not from sweetwater by no means am I country and yes I promise you I'm the same girl, however I'm like a camillion I can change my voice skin color looks and pretty much anything up I want to gents. Just so police won't find me to hassle me like I'm doing something wrong. FYI I have very many different accents and speak different languages. I am leggit. And I think its stupid 4 a girl to have a pimp.

[QUOTE=Dr Holiday;1610311]Don't know about the third one.[/QUOTE]Those pics are of. Me taken in p. Are. By my girlfriend shows what you know and if I stop texing someone it because I feel uncomfortable so why don't you speak on something you know. FYI ballbuster is victorias pimp!

[QUOTE=Hottie24;1612680]Those pics are of. Me taken in p. Are. By my girlfriend shows what you know and if I stop texing someone it because I feel uncomfortable so why don't you speak on something you know. FYI ballbuster is victorias pimp![/QUOTE]Were you uncomfortable with me last week, when U-turned your phone off near the time we had agreed to meet? I am a very busy man, and plan my entertainment accordingly. If you didn't want to meet with me just no, don't waste my time, with your silly games.

Nick

[QUOTE=Hottie24;1612680]Those pics are of. Me taken in p. Are. By my girlfriend shows what you know and if I stop texing someone it because I feel uncomfortable so why don't you speak on something you know. FYI ballbuster is victorias pimp![/QUOTE]Happens on occasion.

Don't understand the texting comment but. That's neither here nor there.

And if you look like those pics. I might have to spend some $$$. Christmas present for me.

[QUOTE=Nickn3; 1612742]Were you uncomfortable with me last week, when U-turned your phone off near the time we had agreed to meet? I am a very busy man, and plan my entertainment accordingly. If you didn't want to meet with me just no, don't waste my time, with your silly games.

Nick[/QUOTE]Good job Nick. You are absolutely right. She's a game player from what I can see. Just reading her replys on here one would have to think something is definately wrong. She has too many answers for all the issues. No one can possibly "cover" all issues. Nina, to resolve all this, I have a suggestion for you. Post a picture of you holding a news paper showing the date. Then we would all know your pic are real. I think that is a fair request to put that issue to rest. As far as you "disappearing" or dropping appointments, that's something you are going to have to fix. It's happened to several of us and it's just not right. So fix it and join the happy crowd. No one on here will give you a "bad" review unless it's true. We all would like nothing more than to put you in the same group that some of the other providers are in. That group being providers we all have come to know and respect. So it's all up to you now. Work with us, not against us.

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[QUOTE=Hottie24;1612680]Those pics are of. Me taken in p. Are. By my girlfriend shows what you know and if I stop texing someone it because I feel uncomfortable so why don't you speak on something you know. FYI ballbuster is victorias pimp![/QUOTE]Vic has no idea who ballbster is. You try to look like Vic in her pictures but you or no other girls round hear can be as hot as Vic. She thinks you are a syco.

Thug *****. And with a cross no less! Really? She seems to have a cushion made for pushin, but I can't help but wonder, especially with the M. C. Escher ink above it. Anyone know anything? The number came up as Sprint / Nextel and is fairly newly issued.

The Geek.

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-and-check-me-out-26/6720184[/url]

I had the pleasure of her company. She is legit. Not GFE though. Seconds are on the menu. In call is in safe neighborhood in West Knoxville.

Regarding the pics. Her body type is a bit different now. I think the pics are her but a bit dated. She is still petite but not as skinny as the photos show. For the price, it's worth a visit.

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/candy-canes-arnt-the-only-thing-that-taste-good-mmm-24/6112397[/url]

[QUOTE=Knoxgeek; 1613047]Thug. And with a cross no less! Really? She seems to have a cushion made for pushin, but I can't help but wonder, especially with the M. C. Escher ink above it. Anyone know anything? The number came up as Sprint / Nextel and is fairly newly issued.

The Geek.

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-and-check-me-out-26/6720184[/url][/QUOTE]Yeah, those tats and what looks like scratches, turned me right off no matter what else she has going for herself. Not into gang bangers or thugs.

[QUOTE=Knoxgeek; 1613047]Thug. And with a cross no less! Really? She seems to have a cushion made for pushin, but I can't help but wonder, especially with the M. C. Escher ink above it. Anyone know anything? The number came up as Sprint / Nextel and is fairly newly issued.

The Geek.

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-and-check-me-out-26/6720184[/url][/QUOTE]It looks like she's offering $120 for someone to have sex with her for an hour, so that's some extra Christmas dough for some guy who can close his eyes and dream he's somewhere else.

Oh wait. Someone just told me that she expects someone to PAY HER $120! Nevermind. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.