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Wow, what timely reporting. A little "research" came up with the Fed press release, which was issued back on May 17, 2011! Elite is no big loss IMHO. Just a little worried if this has any ripple effect. The Sun article kinda reads that everyone knows about all the other AMPs, and it's difficult to shut them down if they don't have any sort of zoning issues.
BD
The York Road corridor is really brutal for some reason. Lived in area for 30 years and starting with the Japanese Spa in timonium over 25 years ago (a first class place) to the most recent Moon Therapy closing. Other parts of town seem to have longevity like hypnotic therapy, TBC, joppa road is a hopping. Everybody is talking about vic's on york road in fact I am happy to report that I was there first costumer, but frankly I would be afraid to visit. Because there time is running out to. History has proven this. I don't get it does area business complain more in this area. Can any shed light on this. Are we to blame
[url]http://baltimore.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/epsom-salt-baths-now-available-with-best-115-and-2hr-sessions-in-the-city/4023701[/url]
I keep seeing her posts on Backpage and just haven't pulled the trigger. Has anyone seen her?
Thanks
[quote]The main door of the former Elite Spa is on the side of the house, facing where a man named Matt resides. From his vantage point, he could see customers and watched what he said was a constant rotation of about 20 women over two years.[/quote][quote]He had been asked to do odd jobs and had become acquainted with several of the women, including one with whom he conversed often.[/quote]I am sure "Matt" never partook of the goods. He did buy cigarettes for them though. Nice guy.
[QUOTE=Butter Dog; 1245102]Wow, what timely reporting. A little "research" came up with the Fed press release, which was issued back on May 17, 2011! Elite is no big loss IMHO. Just a little worried if this has any ripple effect. The Sun article kinda reads that everyone knows about all the other AMPs, and it's difficult to shut them down if they don't have any sort of zoning issues.
BD[/QUOTE]Elite sucked anyway so I'm not upset about it getting closed.
[QUOTE=Rahjohn;1246349]Elite sucked anyway so I'm not upset about it getting closed.[/QUOTE]You should be.
Any closings / busts hurt the hobby as a whole and have an effect on the spas in the immediate area.
Whether it was your favorite spa or one you didn't care for, it does not matter if you are enjoying this hobby, you should be bothered.
By any closings.
[QUOTE=Massagame;1245805]The York Road corridor is really brutal for some reason. Lived in area for 30 years and starting with the Japanese Spa in timonium over 25 years ago (a first class place) to the most recent Moon Therapy closing. Other parts of town seem to have longevity like hypnotic therapy, TBC, joppa road is a hopping. Everybody is talking about vic's on york road in fact I am happy to report that I was there first costumer, but frankly I would be afraid to visit. Because there time is running out to. History has proven this. I don't get it does area business complain more in this area. Can any shed light on this. Are we to blame[/QUOTE]Was Japanese Spa on the second floor of a strip mall at York & Tim road? That was my first ever visit to a massage parlor, what great memories!
[QUOTE=Brahmabull; 1246563]Any closings / busts hurt the hobby as a whole and have an effect on the spas in the immediate area.
Whether it was your favorite spa or one you didn't care for, it does not matter if you are enjoying this hobby, you should be bothered.[/QUOTE]Brahmabull has a valid point. And I don't want to diminish his opinion in any way (especially because I pretty much agree with him) , but there is a little silver lining in this closing. And it is this.
The investigation and eventual charges that brought down Elite originated from the USA Attorney for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, with help from ICE and Homeland Security out of Philadelphia (I. E, the Feds). The investigation was limited to only five or six people and the six or seven spas that they operated. Most of those happen to be in Pennsylvania. One just happened to be Elite in Maryland.
So this one closing was the result of a narrow investigation of a limited number of people and not a wide ranging attack on AMPs as a whole. And most of it originated out of state (and hopefully will stay there too). Local authorities helped, but their assistance was limited to this one place.
We have a pretty good thing going here. That doesn't mean that it couldn't change overnight. Just look at DC over the last few years. Look at Montgomery County. I never mongered there, so I don't know if it's always been dry, but it pretty much is now.
And I don't know what's up with York Road. It's like whack-a-mole. As soon as either the po-po or some county licensing agency whacks one, another pops up down the street.
But I too have to admit, if one had to go, I'm not too sorry that it was Elite.
Commentary by Butter Dog
Living in this area (york road) my thinking now is that community and business association up and down york road are complaining to LE. Plus this is a really HIGH rent district. Mp in this area should just forget about signs. I'ts not like we drive up and down the road like we are looking for a mcdonalds, we do our research first. Think about harford road the have alluded LE for years. No sign, one girl, one custumer I feel comfortable
[QUOTE=Udbtq;1233157]How old is she. I might be heading that way from philly soon and wanted to check out the massage parlors down there. I have been to the block once for a few hours and thats all I have experienced of Baltimore.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't bother. After reading the OP, I decided to left my boycott on AMPs. I went there today. Never again. Not sure what her name was, but she was probably 50-60 years old. I asked the prices and left. Couldn't get out of there fast enough.
Has anyone tried the spa on the corner of LR Blvd & Joppa Road in the little shopping strip next to Hooters?
[QUOTE=Newbie;1246624]Was Japanese Spa on the second floor of a strip mall at York & Tim road? That was my first ever visit to a massage parlor, what great memories![/QUOTE]Remember the Russian Spa across the street from Regina Pools. There was also a Russian Spa (Tea Room?) above Angels Grotto in Towson. While we're at it the bordello above Vally Gun Shop, and the one above the old Tuxedo Shop near Towson State.
Be safe.
GTR
[QUOTE=Gintonicrocks; 1247926]Remember the Russian Spa across the street from Regina Pools. There was also a Russian Spa (Tea Room?) above Angels Grotto in Towson. While we're at it the bordello above Vally Gun Shop, and the one above the old Tuxedo Shop near Towson State.
Be safe.
GTR[/QUOTE]Dude, you're showing your age! BTW, I remember the Russians. I had the feeling they would kill me if I didn't tip!
[QUOTE=Tottomim;1248362]Dude, you're showing your age! BTW, I remember the Russians. I had the feeling they would kill me if I didn't tip![/QUOTE]Yes that was a the Russian was crazy place very inconsistent. Humor had it that one of the girls was killed. And yes japanese spa was in timonium crossing 2nd floor. A great place.
[QUOTE=Massagame;1248369]Yes that was a the Russian was crazy place very inconsistent. Humor had it that one of the girls was killed. And yes japanese spa was in timonium crossing 2nd floor. A great place.[/QUOTE]One of the girls there was killed about 13 years ago. A friend of a friend had been there the night she was killed and he used his CREDIT CARD! What a dumbass. The cops were all over him questioning him, his wife found out where he was and what they did and everything. F'd up his life.
[QUOTE=Massagame;1248369]Yes that was a the Russian was crazy place very inconsistent. Humor had it that one of the girls was killed. And yes japanese spa was in timonium crossing 2nd floor. A great place.[/QUOTE]One of the girls there was killed about 13 years ago. A friend of a friend had been there the night she was killed and he used his CREDIT CARD! What a dumbass. The cops were all over him questioning him, his wife found out where he was and what they did and everything. F'd up his life.
[QUOTE=Gintonicrocks; 1247926]Remember the Russian Spa across the street from Regina Pools. There was also a Russian Spa (Tea Room?) above Angels Grotto in Towson. While we're at it the bordello above Vally Gun Shop, and the one above the old Tuxedo Shop near Towson State.
Be safe.
GTR[/QUOTE]I remember sitting in Gino's, I was an adolescent! I could see the guys going up the back stairs of the gun shop. Funny, later that building became a bridal dress shop.
I used to get a late night drink at Angels, back in the day, saw a fight or two.
I thought the Tuxedo Shop was just a rumor.
I cut my first AMP teeth at that Japanese Spa. Back then, the best action was at the Miami Spa of the Orient in Ellicott City.
[QUOTE=WildWilly68;1247766]Has anyone tried the spa on the corner of LR Blvd & Joppa Road in the little shopping strip next to Hooters?[/QUOTE]The one hiring hairdressers?
[QUOTE=Paul Hahn3;1248643]The one hiring hairdressers?[/QUOTE]Yes, that's the one. I saw it advertised on CL or BackPage for Asian Bodyrubs but it doesn't look like that kind of place at all which obviously could be a good thing for longevity.
[QUOTE=Belrocker;1249481]Send link to address or other info like name and location.[/QUOTE]
I think there is more than enough info. And, you didn't say please. Maybe we should post GPS coordinates for LE. But, thanks for your interest. We look forward to you providing usable info.
[QUOTE=Tottomim;1249800]I think there is more than enough info. And, you didn't say please. Maybe we should post GPS coordinates for LE. But, thanks for your interest. We look forward to you providing usable info.[/QUOTE]
Hey, as long as we're at it, how about posting some times too when LE will have the easiest chance of getting everybody. We should make it as easy for everyone as possible. Perhaps we can have some call ahead for arrest notices or something too.
Also, could some monger go ahead and repeat what all of the other mongers have said over the past ten years? Thanks.
Good post Tot; on the money. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Belrocker; 1249867]Actually my request was directed to the person (s) that originated the discussion and not to some busybody a / h that has nothing better to do than to make derogatory remarks.
Thank you very much![/QUOTE]You only want only a specific person to see your question, next time try a PM.
[QUOTE=Belrocker; 1249867]Actually my request was directed to the person (s) that originated the discussion and not to some busybody a / h that has nothing better to do than to make derogatory remarks.
Thank you very much![/QUOTE]The a / h in this thread is most definitely NOT Tott.
RTFF. Then when you don't have enough information, RTFF again.
A big thumbs up to Ginger Man who first mentioned Cherry (see post #3769). She does indeed have the goods. She's around 5'4", very pretty with wavy hair to her mid-back. I'd guess she's in her early 30's, but she looks younger. As GM mentioned, she has nice big boobs, not natural, but nicely done. She has a bit of a pauch, but that's no big deal. Very soft skin. She had on a sexy halter dress.
She gave a pretty standard stand up shower. Everything got cleaned but it wasn't as thorough as others I've had. Just slightly rushed. We went right back to the room, where she dried me off some more and started in on the massagi. It was average, kind of on the light side. A lot of strokes and then some slapping. She was best when she was working on my head and feet. She spent more time there and did a really good job. She did a pretty good back walk too. After the flip she curled up beside me on the table and just let me hold her for a while. Then she started in on some light negotiation; wasn't a buzz-kill as this can sometimes be. She then took off everything and jumped right in. This is the part of the session she excels at. I loved when she took me in her hands and then tapped her chin with it, while looking right in my eyes. She also did some Russian, which felt fucking great. As things progressed, she pivoted on the table and had her ass in my face while she bent over to help bring this part of the session to a great close. Memorable view from this angle. After the clean-up she went back and massage my face, ears, and then moved down to my feet.
After she helped me dress she tried on my glasses and kidded me about if I could see her without them. The only drawback was that the session ran short. 45 min. Rather than 60, but overall I'd repeat with Cherry.
Happy hunting.
Thinking of visiting Yoyo's
I went to 8910 Thursday night, I wanted to go to old annapolis but couldn't swing it. I had a nice time at 8910 but of course the girls always act nice aiming at the tip. I had a standard HE with a. 30 tip.
[QUOTE=Belrocker;1250269]I don't need to address my questions in form of a PM and I don't need to get comments from people that think they are smarted than everyone else. If the shoe fits wear it.[/QUOTE]Damn dude, eight posts, the last three were to insult senior members who were just poking you a little bit. You've got to lighten up or learn the hard way that you might be shut out of this tight knit community.
Be safe.
Rp
[QUOTE=Massagame;1250391]Thinking of visiting Yoyo's[/QUOTE]WTF? Jusy GO! Then [b]think[/b] About reporting afterward.
These are the kind of posts that get places closed up. What the hell is wrong with you?
[QUOTE=Satya;1250987]These are the kind of posts that get places closed up. What the hell is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]Not knowing exactly what post you are talking about, it would seem to me, if someone wanted to shut a plce down there are seven years of archived posts on this forum to gather information from. Thanks for your intrest in prolonging the inevitable. We all appreciate your concern.
GTR
[QUOTE=Satya;1250987]I had a standard HE with a. 30 tip.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Satya;1250987]These are the kind of posts that get places closed up. What the hell is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]Not sure if I get your point there.
[QUOTE=Belrocker;1250269]I don't need to address my questions in form of a PM and I don't need to get comments from people that think they are smarter than everyone else.[/QUOTE]Belrocker,
Calm down there a little. The problem here, IMHO, is that you broached upon the great dilemma of this W S G forum. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. Okay, then how do you do that? Full disclosure? Or nothing for public consumption but back channels and PM's? If you were take a poll (again, IMHO) and RTFF, I think that you would find that seniors who regularly contribute good information to this forum are all across the board on that question. The answer, if there is just one answer, lies somewhere in between and you have to use your best judgment.
Mostly because concerns are that the po-po are watching our every move and post. Are they? You would be naive to say no. Po-po knows about every AMP in the city and county with or without this board. And po-po knows exactly what's going on inside each and every AMP in the city and county with or without this board (do I need to say IMHO again?). At worst, this forum could bring undue attention to one or two particular AMPs, and before you know it, your favorite house or your favorite provider is gone. I said could, because as GTR mentions, there are years and years of information here, most of which relate to AMP's still open. And they are still open, with or without this board.
Problem #2 here is that you're a newbie, and newbies tend to take a lot of shit asking questions. Be glad that you didn't ask the #1 dumb newbie question, or you would be getting a whole lot more shit than this.
This forum has certain unwritten rules. One is that you will find that you can open many channels of information, suggestions and answers after you contribute worthwhile information and build trust among the other mongers. Piss them off and you get nothing.
Use your best judgment. And realize that not everyone will agree with you.
The Soapbox Dog is done.
[QUOTE=Butter Dog;1250876]WTF? Jusy GO! Then [b]think[/b] About reporting afterward.[/QUOTE]Harford Road offers a 4 hand massage, it is G rated but a great massage no ts but clean place. If you are looking for strictly great massage with no other features this is the place for you. Owner speaks great english which is a plus.
The reports about this place are right on. Yoyo gives an intense workout on your back. And I got every minute of my hour. More AMPs should be like this. And the HE was incredible. Never experienced a technique like hers. That was worth the up tip alone.
If you're one of those mongers that really enjoys a good rub before the tug, you got to try this place at least once.
BD
[QUOTE=Butter Dog; 1251394]The reports about this place are right on. Yoyo gives an intense workout on your back. And I got every minute of my hour. More AMPs should be like this. And the HE was incredible. Never experienced a technique like hers. That was worth the up tip alone.
If you're one of those mongers that really enjoys a good rub before the tug, you got to try this place at least once.
BD[/QUOTE]I wish JH would learn from them. What's the point in paying for an hour and being asked to flip in 20 minutes. It's just plain laziness on their part.
Long time lurker and infrequent poster on this and T othEr boaRd. Having been a irregular at K and with always with Suzy I called yesterday for an appointment and was extremely disappointed to be told she no longer worked there. Not the hottest girl there but always the sweetest and really cute in her own way Suzy was always the total GFE with me. Personally I will mis her and her smile. Got to find a new fav. Oh well.
I put a quote in there that I thought was much too explicit but I fucked it up. I think everyone should know what an "HE" and I have my doubts about MPs being shut down for performing them, I mean some may pop from having their toes sucked but it is not a true sex act and an "HJ" is a massage. Anyway I think post mentioning the girls getting naked and their bouncing dicks on their chins is just too blatant. We should not rub LE's nose in it but we should be very cool about it.
Last week I described a house in Timonium, almost a straight up brothel, in a post that no one responded to so many of you all didn't know about it. I went there for years exclusively but they got shut down and I was broken hearted. I don't want that to happen to my favs.
I was hoping to catch up with CeCe at the establishment on B&A Blvd. I called, and when I asked if she was there, mamsan didn't answer the question. I thought it might be a language issue, and repeated the question, and she finally said yes, CeCe here, you come over. So I get there and I'm met by someone who definitely isn't the CeCe I was expecting. She is a stocky lady, about 5'6", B cups, average looking, probably around 40 years old. I ask if her name is CeCe, and she feigns language ignorance and wants to take care of business first (.6 for the hour). Since I had some knots in my back, I decided to go through with it anyway, just to see where this went. Plus this was a very reasonable house fee for an hour. So she departs with the fee, and returns, and starts the massage. It turns out her real name is Lisa, and CeCe has gone back home. It also turns out that she understands and speaks English much better than she first indicated. Grrrr. But I was enjoying her massage technique, so I decided to see if I would get the full hour.
No table shower was offered, I just got on the table and she started. She asks me to flip about 10 minutes in, and I decline, and ask for more massage. She asks again around 25 minutes in, and I give her the same answer. She asks for the last time around the 45 minute mark, and it appears that standard services are available at standard rates. But I decline (I decided not to reward the games they played) , and she asks,"You sure back only?", and I say yes. So, much to my surprise, she continues the massage for 5 minutes beyond the time I had paid for, without complaint or changing her technique.
We started to chat a bit towards the end, and it turns out she's here from Beijing (just like all the other girls from China. They all say Beijing when I ask). She then begins to talk about how she would stay in America if she got married, because then she and her family (who is still in China) could live here. Ah hah. She then asks me if I've ever been to China, and offers to be my tour guide if I ever visit. She has a very pleasant personality and attitude, too bad things didn't start very well.
I doubt I'll go back unless I'm sure that the girl I want to see is really working there.
I decided to try this place after reading positive comments on getting an actual therapeutic massage. I was greeted by an average looking women who I later found out to be Kai Lee (spelling?) When I first walked in I saw an asian man sitting in the kitchen area. I am thinking that this is a first, I've never seen a male working or residing in one of these places. She told me that it was her brother. I assumed that it was probably her boyfriend, but no matter. The massage was very good and actually lasted the entire hour. It was interrupted by the flip after about 45 to 50 minutes. After the flip, the massage continued until the end of my hour. The menu was too limited for me to want to return. It seems this place is a R & T only joint from what I've read and experienced, kind of dissapointing because she looked like she would have had some nice knockers. She would have none of that. Possibly it was because I told them it was my first time there. I don't think I will return to find out. There are too many other options out there. Looks 6, massage service 9, extras service 2, attitude 4.
[QUOTE=Foxfax; 1251730]I was hoping to catch up with CeCe at the establishment on B&A Blvd. I called, and when I asked if she was there, mamsan didn't answer the question. I thought it might be a language issue, and repeated the question, and she finally said yes, CeCe here, you come over. So I get there and I'm met by someone who definitely isn't the CeCe I was expecting. She is a stocky lady, about 5'6", B cups, average looking, probably around 40 years old. I ask if her name is CeCe, and she feigns language ignorance and wants to take care of business first (.6 for the hour). Since I had some knots in my back, I decided to go through with it anyway, just to see where this went. Plus this was a very reasonable house fee for an hour. So she departs with the fee, and returns, and starts the massage. It turns out her real name is Lisa, and CeCe has gone back home. It also turns out that she understands and speaks English much better than she first indicated. Grrrr. But I was enjoying her massage technique, so I decided to see if I would get the full hour.
No table shower was offered, I just got on the table and she started. She asks me to flip about 10 minutes in, and I decline, and ask for more massage. She asks again around 25 minutes in, and I give her the same answer. She asks for the last time around the 45 minute mark, and it appears that standard services are available at standard rates. But I decline (I decided not to reward the games they played) , and she asks,"You sure back only?", and I say yes. So, much to my surprise, she continues the massage for 5 minutes beyond the time I had paid for, without complaint or changing her technique.
We started to chat a bit towards the end, and it turns out she's here from Beijing (just like all the other girls from China. They all say Beijing when I ask). She then begins to talk about how she would stay in America if she got married, because then she and her family (who is still in China) could live here. Ah hah. She then asks me if I've ever been to China, and offers to be my tour guide if I ever visit. She has a very pleasant personality and attitude, too bad things didn't start very well.
I doubt I'll go back unless I'm sure that the girl I want to see is really working there.[/QUOTE]I wonder if this is the same Lisa that used to work with Cece at Green Ocean. If so, she is a pretty nice lady. Very eager to please. She also did this to me.
When they were at GO. I'd call and ask if Cece was there. She'd say oh yes, honey Cece is here. When I'd get there It was like it was a big misunderstanding, Cece be back in two months. Cece is about 5'5" and 100 to 110 Lbs. She is the best combination of actual therapeutic massage and extras that I know of in this area. She is definitely worth going out of your way for. I can find out when she is going to return to the area and PM you.