The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6451840]She is real. Very quick to agree terms and come over, so basically a pro.[/QUOTE]What did she quote? Anything you can tell us about how it went with her?

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;6452689]What did she quote? Anything you can tell us about how it went with her?[/QUOTE]I met with her a couple of times before COVID. She is very pretty. At the time she was asking 3 bills. I have not seen her in a while so her numbers may have changed.

[QUOTE=DbbClassy2;6448716]SA has become a real shit show over the past year. I first get on in Feb of 2022 and in a three month period, I went on about 30 dates with attractive women and slept with half of them for free. It's like those girls were too afraid or ashamed to ask for anything in return. Best time of my adult life. Now it's almost all bullshitters, scammers or old / fat chicks.[/QUOTE]Anyone else notice the influx of Babies 35 why o plus now on SA? It use to be the exception. I think a lot of 18-25 why o true 8-10's, are making bank on Only Fans without having to do the dirty with strangers for $200-$400.

When o first joined in January of 2019, it literally was like shooting fish in a barrel. You need to put in so much time and effort now to find a needle in a haystack, I let me account go unpaid about three months ago.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;6452719]I met with her a couple of times before COVID. She is very pretty. At the time she was asking 3 bills. I have not seen her in a while so her numbers may have changed.[/QUOTE]She also quoted me 3. Her willingess to come to my place within a few texts made me decide to pass at the time.

Does anyone know this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c490491-f9d3-4162-98f8-84841b34f08e[/URL]

[QUOTE=TriadTraveler;6453335]Does anyone know this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c490491-f9d3-4162-98f8-84841b34f08e[/URL][/QUOTE]She is 50. This is the sugar baby forum not sugar granny LOL.

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6453416]She is 50. This is the sugar baby forum not sugar granny LOL.[/QUOTE]Well when you are a pawpaw it's hard to do anything with those sugar babies.

[QUOTE=WelladJustedJ;6451339][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3acf457e-32d7-42e0-af5a-1dd530be8d43[/URL]

Curious about this one. I keep seeing the same people but don't see them mentioned here (need to up my search game).

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you decide to meet, do not go to her spot at new market way.

[QUOTE=TheWorldReset;6454588]If you decide to meet, do not go to her spot at new market way.[/QUOTE]There's nothing wrong with New Market Way. It's a residential community and there are a couple of providers: Lexi, Becca and Britt who all live over there as well. Are you sure you have the right girl? It's not impossible that Emidoll lives in the same area but I'd expect her to live with or hang out with the other providers who live on that street.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;6453015] I think a lot of 18-25 why o true 8-10's, are making bank on Only Fans without having to do the dirty with strangers for $200-$400.[/QUOTE]They may quit being an SB to try it out, but OF is no different than the YouTube fad: Someone hears of another person making a lot of money so they jump on the bandwagon assuming it to be easy, only to quit within six months when the reality sets in that it takes actual work and sometimes years to build a following that generates a livable return. These girls are lazy. At least every single one of them I've come across. None of them understand you don't start a following on OF because there's no means of being discovered on that platform. OF is where you bring the following you already have. So they end up with maybe 20 followers after spamming every dating site they know of with their profile, update with lousy pictures for six months then quit when they don't see much revenue.

[QUOTE=TheWorldReset;6454588]If you decide to meet, do not go to her spot at new market way.[/QUOTE]Why would someone not want to go there?

She's a good one. Very attractive and sexy. Open to most anything. She enjoys herself and makes sure that you do too. Educated with a better job than some of the mongers on this site. Lives and hosts in a safe and decent part of town. Actually has a personality and can carry on a conversation. No demons at all. The cost of raising teenage and college age kids as a single mom is the reason she does this. She may be older, but is heads above the twenty somethings in my opinion.

[QUOTE=TriadTraveler;6453335]Does anyone know this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c490491-f9d3-4162-98f8-84841b34f08e[/URL][/QUOTE]

This messaging is popping up all over my social media stream. There's several podcasts but, if you ever get a chance, check out a couple called "Fresh and Fit" and another called "Whatever". Not a fan of the format and definitely not "Joe Rogan" but they get these twenty something girls on the panel and show them how delusional they are when it comes to modern day dating. And delusional they are. Through a number of outlets, it's pretty well established that 80% of women are chasing 20% of men. Their standards reflect they deserve (statistically) the top one or two percent of men. Criteria like over 6 ft. , not overweight, older (more experienced and established), over $100,000 salary, and of course, monogamous. The guys on this podcast point out that the woman is born with their value that peeks late teens. Early twenties. Men have to earn their value that peeks 35-50. They crucify these girls for wanting loyalty from high value men when they themselves are neither high value or never earned their value (youth and beauty). They rack up fuck buddies (the 20% guys) like Armageddon is next week, but keep good guys with future potential in their "friend zone". Oh yeah, those friend zone victims are made of of 65% of men that are having zero sex (32%) and guys that have sex once or twice a year. Further pointing out the girls never bought a drink in a VIP club or a gallon of gas on the boat they party on all summer. Yet men the same age are busting their ass at work trying to earn the status in hopes SOMEDAY they can afford that luxury of being around these women.

I saw one the other day that said big venture capital groups were investing in wine and cat food because of the social metrics were betting on increased lonely, single, middle aged woman in the years to come, LOL. Google Female Delusional Calculator and you'll see, based off of US Census data, when girls punch in their ideal guy, he's a fraction of one percent of the population. A lot of these garden tools think 20% of men make over 250 k. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;6450827]I would never tell someone to sell themselves short or agree to terms that make them uncomfortable, but I feel like many of these women bought into the content of one too many 'influencer' SB's from a metropolitan area with a high millionaire per capita rate, and have no clue why the same isn't being replicated for them. I have no doubt that a woman who is an 11/10 or a 10/10 in NYC, LA, DC can land a high paid arrangement.

I do not, under most circumstances, believe that a 6/10 in Nebraska will ever see those sort of results. And most women don't want to accept that reality. Many of these women need to look into the median incomes of the places they live. And then be brutally honest with themselves:

'Am I a 10/10 in my area?

'Am I still in the prime of my youth?

'Am I willing to indulge in the whims of someone with those sort of resources?

'Do I come with baggage like a boyfriend / husband, children, or a difficult schedule?

'Am I okay with being someone's mistress and the issues that go along with that?

'Am I willing to be with someone I'm not physically attracted to? And can I fake it well?

When I've hobbied in the past, I've often messaged Girl Next Door types, and many have quoted 700 to 1 k. And I always ask, 'Have you personally received those amounts?' I have yet to come across a GND type who has gotten anywhere near those numbers. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, I just haven't seen it. Sometimes they lie and say, 'yup. All the time. ' And then I say, 'well, I don't want to waste your time, good luck!' And more than a few times, in the span of a few minutes or a few days, they'll message again and want to keep talking.

I know those online SB forums suggest that women wait for 'the whale'. And that's good sense. What they leave out is that by the very nature of the whale, there AREN'T VERY MANY. And the vast majority of those women, the whales DON'T WANT THEM. And will absolutely NOT put up with the whole 'sex once a month'. That's both hilarious and misleading.

They're not helping these women. Stop telling fat women, women with criminal records, women with multiple kids, and women with volatile relationships that millionaires are lining up to be with them. That's a lie. It's also why most women quit SA before they even meet anyone. Those sort of numbers, in most parts of the US, do not exist.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;6455830]Through a number of outlets, it's pretty well established that 80% of women are chasing 20% of men. Their standards reflect they deserve (statistically) the top one or two percent of men. Criteria like over 6 ft. , not overweight, older (more experienced and established), over $100,000 salary, and of course, monogamous. [/QUOTE]I'm not any of those things and I don't have trouble getting laid. I choose to see Providers because it's more straight-to-the point most of the times. This statistic is used to sell guys with low self esteem some cure-all package on how to get more women as if there's a secret formula. The only formula is to stop putting women on a pedestal in the first place; stop making "getting girls" such a big deal. If you treat women like human beings rather than just something to get it goes much further than being 6 ft, 6-pack abs and making over $100 K a year. The problem men have is they're shallow and are looking for shallow women. Yes, a shallow chick is probably looking for those things but she's no prize herself apart from her looks. The instant men stop believing all women are chasing this mythic top two percent of men, the sooner they'll be more successful with women.

The 80%/20% rule a guy should focus on is the one that says 80% of your worth should come from yourself and 20% should come from external validation. Guys place too much of their esteem at the feet of someone else: They need to be seen as a man in some other dude's eyes and that's why they care if a girl is "hot". It's stupid. You don't need other dudes to tell you that you're man. You don't need to impress other dudes with what you have and who you're having sex with. None of that matters. When that stops mattering so much, guys make a lot better choices regarding women and everything else. If a guy nees a girl to be "hot" to think well of himself, then that's the problem: you should think well of yourself no matter what "hot" chicks think about you. 80% of your worth should come from you; only 20% should come from external validation.

[QUOTE=TroyNc40;6455147]She's a good one. Very attractive and sexy. Open to most anything. She enjoys herself and makes sure that you do too. Educated with a better job than some of the mongers on this site. Lives and hosts in a safe and decent part of town. Actually has a personality and can carry on a conversation. No demons at all. The cost of raising teenage and college age kids as a single mom is the reason she does this. She may be older, but is heads above the twenty somethings in my opinion.[/QUOTE]She's been around since Craigslist days.

[QUOTE=TriadTraveler;6453335]Does anyone know this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c490491-f9d3-4162-98f8-84841b34f08e[/URL][/QUOTE]Can't open it like profile is gone.

That's a lot to unpack but, respectfully, I agree with some of that. First, there is difference between what it is and what it should be. I agree that ultimately, men should be all about self improvement and that typically solves accessibility to girls. But my comment was about what it currently is. I also do very well in the regular dating and prefer P4 P because of my travel schedule and convenience. I admit I am in that statistical minority. And although I'm showing my age, I am at my social, financial, and physical peak (it's a wonderful place to live), so I'm only pointing out that these metrics reflect what I see, even if I'm the beneficiary of that. Online dating and social media have given these girls an overinflated self image that has further degraded the dating world. Average girls get tons of attention (texts and messages) from men all over the world sometimes, but they would not return a text from an above average guy in her own neighborhood. Hell, we all see how much effort we put into Seeking and SB. My response rate is still less that 10% and that's on a site that implies she will get paid to date. These same girls are on regular dating sites too, how do you think they feel about those guys? They all know they don't have to work for it and their complacent attitudes show it. And we all know that things that come easy are not respected and things that come with hard work are respected (hence the double standard of promiscuity). Average girls can make a free phone call, above average men have to work for it or pay for it.

BTW, with all surveys and stats, they paint a picture of a broad general trend where as you would be the exception. I also believe this about the female side. There are lots of grounded ladies that have a better perspective that many I see in my travels. I do agree that, as with any form of media entertainment and product advertising, they will slant the narrative to get the most views, clicks, sales, etc. They always show the hot girls in club attire saying the most outrageous stuff, but the content has merit and stats to show it.

[QUOTE=DbbClassy2;6456057]I'm not any of those things and I don't have trouble getting laid. I choose to see Providers because it's more straight-to-the point most of the times. This statistic is used to sell guys with low self esteem some cure-all package on how to get more women as if there's a secret formula. The only formula is to stop putting women on a pedestal in the first place; stop making "getting girls" such a big deal. If you treat women like human beings rather than just something to get it goes much further than being 6 ft, 6-pack abs and making over $100 K a year. The problem men have is they're shallow and are looking for shallow women. Yes, a shallow chick is probably looking for those things but she's no prize herself apart from her looks. The instant men stop believing all women are chasing this mythic top two percent of men, the sooner they'll be more successful with women.

The 80%/20% rule a guy should focus on is the one that says 80% of your worth should come from yourself and 20% should come from external validation. Guys place too much of their esteem at the feet of someone else: They need to be seen as a man in some other dude's eyes and that's why they care if a girl is "hot". It's stupid. You don't need other dudes to tell you that you're man. You don't need to impress other dudes with what you have and who you're having sex with. None of that matters. When that stops mattering so much, guys make a lot better choices regarding women and everything else. If a guy nees a girl to be "hot" to think well of himself, then that's the problem: you should think well of yourself no matter what "hot" chicks think about you. 80% of your worth should come from you; only 20% should come from external validation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JerseyBred;6456484]Can't open it like profile is gone.[/QUOTE]Profile is still good. She must have blocked you.

Anyone seen these?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ad7ff1ff-fea0-4add-962f-a21ac0ca10ee[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34f86f05-052a-4fa4-8f7a-a05e5a6184f6[/URL]

[QUOTE=TigerAuburn;6457626]Anyone seen these?



[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34f86f05-052a-4fa4-8f7a-a05e5a6184f6[/URL][/QUOTE]Saw this one a couple years ago for a quick time and it was a lot of fun. Never was able to get together for a full date but had some good BBBJ / cim fun for not much.

[QUOTE=TigerAuburn;6457626]Anyone seen these?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ad7ff1ff-fea0-4add-962f-a21ac0ca10ee[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34f86f05-052a-4fa4-8f7a-a05e5a6184f6[/URL][/QUOTE]Reeses.

I have sent her messages but not a response back.

OhSoSweetM.

I decided to not pursue after I received additional pics.

Talks a great game. Wants money up front. Sent her $100 back October '22 (yea, I know it's stupid of me) and she just tried it again. Drove to proposed meeting location and it was a fake address & ghosted. Attached is her cash app and pic. Total SCAM. She almost had me again by saying to se d month thru Venmo services to protect the money. I'm sure she's mastered another part of the scam BUYER BEWARE! Bragged she's making thousands or $$ when I called her out on it.

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;6455110]Why would someone not want to go there?[/QUOTE]I am curious as well why someone would not want to go there?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/090899a7-1fb4-48eb-af52-5d18bab16ec1[/URL]

She is ready to meet, not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/f45c86c6-effe-48ec-88a8-285f984cdf2c[/URL]

Ready to meet not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/e42ca97a-2735-4ff9-a96e-2a2a5d214dee[/URL]

She wants $3 k / month.

I don't know how she come up with this number.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/71247552-3a06-429c-aa6b-04518957d3d9[/URL]

She is ready to meet 200.

Val in Greenville nc?

Any reviews?

She have nice body, very fun time.

No deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0bd6ab88-8bb2-4317-b843-2522654b9770[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ncsmm;6458496][URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/090899a7-1fb4-48eb-af52-5d18bab16ec1[/URL]

She is ready to meet, not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/f45c86c6-effe-48ec-88a8-285f984cdf2c[/URL]

Ready to meet not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/e42ca97a-2735-4ff9-a96e-2a2a5d214dee[/URL]

She wants $3 k / month.

I don't know how she come up with this number.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/71247552-3a06-429c-aa6b-04518957d3d9[/URL]

She is ready to meet 200.

Val in Greenville nc?

Any reviews?[/QUOTE]I think those are links to your messages and not to the profile. I have done the same mistake earlier.

Any info?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6bb8029a-e75c-467a-a971-ffe12ee56504[/URL]

She is ready to meet, not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/674ef004-a085-4957-9f74-c35685da81cd[/URL]

Ready to meet not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e5d9c11-4654-4407-aaa4-8ec1f777cbc4[/URL]

She wants $3 k / month.

I don't know how she come up with this number.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d81e072f-7d6c-4ea2-b03c-c6a11ba96769[/URL]

She is ready to meet 200.

Val in Greenville nc? I don't have her link.

Any reviews?

[QUOTE=Gulf0521;6457837]Talks a great game. Wants money up front. Sent her $100 back October '22 (yea, I know it's stupid of me) and she just tried it again. Drove to proposed meeting location and it was a fake address & ghosted. Attached is her cash app and pic. Total SCAM. She almost had me again by saying to se d month thru Venmo services to protect the money. I'm sure she's mastered another part of the scam BUYER BEWARE! Bragged she's making thousands or $$ when I called her out on it.[/QUOTE]She was "in" Charlotte a while back. Similar experience but I ended comms once she asked for money upfront.

[QUOTE=Ncsmm;6459079]Any info?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6bb8029a-e75c-467a-a971-ffe12ee56504[/URL]

She is ready to meet, not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/674ef004-a085-4957-9f74-c35685da81cd[/URL]

Ready to meet not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e5d9c11-4654-4407-aaa4-8ec1f777cbc4[/URL]

She wants $3 k / month.

I don't know how she come up with this number.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d81e072f-7d6c-4ea2-b03c-c6a11ba96769[/URL]

She is ready to meet 200.

Val in Greenville nc? I don't have her link.

Any reviews?[/QUOTE]Trixxi is semi pro. Lots of review of her on here search her username. She will try and upsell but stick to your guns at 300 and she will cave. High volume so take that for what you will. Can't speak for the others.

[QUOTE=Ncsmm;6459079]Any info?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6bb8029a-e75c-467a-a971-ffe12ee56504[/URL]

She is ready to meet, not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/674ef004-a085-4957-9f74-c35685da81cd[/URL]

Ready to meet not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e5d9c11-4654-4407-aaa4-8ec1f777cbc4[/URL]

She wants $3 k / month.

I don't know how she come up with this number.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d81e072f-7d6c-4ea2-b03c-c6a11ba96769[/URL]

She is ready to meet 200.

Val in Greenville nc? I don't have her link.

Any reviews?[/QUOTE]Is this the Val you are asking about: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0a7908d6-d3d4-4d84-8424-7ecbd3042f8b[/URL].

[QUOTE=EasyeOne;6460912]Is this the Val you are asking about: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0a7908d6-d3d4-4d84-8424-7ecbd3042f8b[/URL].[/QUOTE]Yes, she is.

[QUOTE=Ncsmm;6459079]Any info?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6bb8029a-e75c-467a-a971-ffe12ee56504[/URL]

She is ready to meet, not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/674ef004-a085-4957-9f74-c35685da81cd[/URL]

Ready to meet not asking deposit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e5d9c11-4654-4407-aaa4-8ec1f777cbc4[/URL]

She wants $3 k / month.

I don't know how she come up with this number.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d81e072f-7d6c-4ea2-b03c-c6a11ba96769[/URL]

She is ready to meet 200.

Val in Greenville nc? I don't have her link.

Any reviews?[/QUOTE]Links don't work. I can never see any of these profiles from this site. Secret benefits actually works for me.

[QUOTE=JerseyBred;6461340]Links don't work. I can never see any of these profiles from this site. Secret benefits actually works for me.[/QUOTE]The links worked fine for me.

MichelleSuzy1234.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e142607-f35f-4c18-80b6-938e19fc81f0[/URL]

Anyone meet her at "her place" it's a business location seems off.

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;6461511]The links worked fine for me.[/QUOTE]They never work for me. No clue why.

[QUOTE=Ncsmm;6460958]Yes, she is.[/QUOTE]She has a few reviews on here. Easy to work with, able to host.

[QUOTE=JohnySlayer56;6461559]MichelleSuzy1234.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e142607-f35f-4c18-80b6-938e19fc81f0[/URL]

Anyone meet her at "her place" it's a business location seems off.[/QUOTE]She's 100% safe and has been reviewed here before several times, including by me. The business location is an office she has access to. Feel free to DM me if you want more details.

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;6461830]She's 100% safe and has been reviewed here before several times, including by me. The business location is an office she has access to. Feel free to DM me if you want more details.[/QUOTE]Last I heard she only does BJ for $$. Has that changed to FS now that she has is hosting.

[QUOTE=Gatttaca;6463077]Last I heard she only does BJ for $$. Has that changed to FS now that she has is hosting.[/QUOTE]No. It has not changed.

Anyone know anything about her?

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/044efec974ad988c[/URL]