Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Screamfan]

Candice: absurdly attractive girl. She is the most perfect girl in there. Virtually no tats, young, tight body, smooth skin. Seriously perfect. This means she is always talking to guys, including the DJ, who seems to be her boyfriend. This is weird. As far as I can tell, she is really not into white guys, by the way, so if you're white and happen to be interested, you're probably going to have to make the move. I was considering trying something, but then she was on stage and, while I was trying to give her some bills, she was showing me her ass while staring at her boyfriend across the stage. The ass was nice, but after waiting a few minutes for her to turn around, I stuck my money back in my pocket and walked off.[/QUOTE]

Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth - for a couple of bucks you had a gorgeous ass in your face for several minutes and you're complaining??? She's working the night shift at Cheaters now, and based on my experience with her there Tuesday night if you got dances with her you'd realy have something to complain about. She does have a really pretty face and nice tight body as you say, but in the LD area she demanded the money up front. I paid her for 2 songs, and after the 2 she asked about a tip. I said no but gave her $40 for another 2 songs. She then asked for $30 more to show me (or maybe let me touch) her pussy. I said no, and she began dancing a couple of feet, then a couple of more feet away from me. I said it was a lap dance, not an airdance. After just one of the second batch of 2 songs she said it had been 2. It had only been one, but even if I could have forced her to do the 2nd dance what would have been the point? She wouldn't have put much effort into it. I violated all my rules because it was near closing and she was very pretty. The rules are to never pre-pay, spell out exactly what you want, and stick to $20 per song, no tip unless she swallows!

I have posted several times that customers should go to Club Fantasies to encourage and reward the 2-for-1 and $10 per dance promotions. I also posted how hot the dancers were there. I went there on a Tuesday night several weeks ago though, and the night shift dancers are nowhere near as attractive as the day shift dancers. There were only 2 who were thin and pretty, and one tall blond named Madison in particular caught my attention. I talked to her at the stage, and she said it was only her second day there. I told her I wanted to do a whole bunch of dances with her, and said we should go to the upstairs booths. I said this because they are bigger, and my previous time there I got a dance with Ciera and she kept complaining that the downstairs booth was too small. Madison asks if she can go upstairs, and I said yes. But then I thought, just to be sure, let me ask. The house mother and DJ were talking. I went up to them and asked if a dancer who is only dancing downstairs can go upstairs to do lapdances and the house mother says "Yes". I then ask if the 2-for-1 dances apply upstairs as well and she says "Of course", and not in a friendly way. She sounded bitchy [foreshadowing!]. So I relayed this to Madison and we went upstairs. After 6 songs Madison's name was called to be onstage. I know a lot of dancers are cavalier here about their stage calls, but since this was her second day I didn't want Madison to get in trouble so urged her to go and said we could continue the lapdances afterwards. When I went to give her the $60 for the 6 dances, Madison asked me to hold it until after she goes onstage because she forgot her purse and has nowhere to put it. She also gave me the rest of the money she has made that night to hold. I did it, but I told her she shouldn't do this because someone else might not be as honest as me and might walk out with all her money. When Madison danced on stage I tipped her a bit, then she got called over by the house mother. There's a long discussion, and Madison comes over and says "I'm in trouble". First I give her all her money so that there's no confusion. Then I ask why and she says that the house mother told her she owes $5 per song to the club because she took her bottoms off. I can see how dancing for $10 per song and then having to give up $5 per song would suck, so I tell her not to worry about it, I'll pay her another $5 per song. But first I want to talk to the house mother and see what is up, and remind her that I asked her about the upstairs dances and she said they were 2 for 1. She didn't say they were 2 for 1 unless the dancer takes off her bottoms! [Aren't there those little xeroxed signs that say 2 for 1, "ALL DANCES, ALL DAY"?] She asks me if I've been to the club before and I say yes, and she yells 'then you must know that the 2 for 1 doesn't apply upstairs if the dancer takes off her bottom'. No, I don't. I tell her I've been upstairs for 2 for 1 before and it was 2 for 1. She says that cannot be. Then she goes into a huddle with Madison and the bouncer for over 6 minutes! Then Madison comes over and says I owe her $120 because the bottomless dances upstairs are $30 each and I only paid her $10 each. That's crazy. The illogic is mindboggling. I know none of them gets paid to be intelligent, but Jesus you'd think one of them would see the multiple ways that makes no sense. I was willing to pay the extra $30 even though I was in the right because the club is like a pimp - it's going to make her pay that extra $5 per song even though the club's representatives were asked beforehand and didn't mention that there was fine print to the 2-for-1. But I sure as hell wasn't going to pay an extra $120 = TRIPLE the agreed upon price! So the bouncer throws me out, saying that I'm just trying to scam them. Yeah, right, what a brilliant scam - when the dancer gives me hundreds of dollars of her money to hold while she dances, I stay to the end and give her back the hundreds of dollars! Virtually nobody is going to go there when the dances are $10 each and pay $30 each instead just for the marginal extra benefit of having the dancer bottomless. To me that's not worth $5 extra per song on a $20 dance, so $20 extra per song on a $10 dance is outrageous. So for having no conscience and no brain, and for bursting with arrogance and douchebaggery, I give Club Fantasies 2 thumbs down and a big FUCK YOU. Oh, and I was at Cheaters last night and what other posters have said is true, there are quite a few attractive girls there now and almost none of the truly hideous creatures that used to roam the place.

[QUOTE=Boston Guy 57]If you saw 4's it was a good day. If you didn't smell them from across the room consider yourself lucky!

Cheaters is about sex and has been for a while. Most of the dancers there are street walkers. Just ask their pimps sitting at the bar...[/QUOTE]
I'm very picky. I don't like any fat on my girls and they need to have attractive faces. There were 4 that met that description Tuesday night Sept. 8th, and at least 2 others that didn't but whose pretty faces, smooth skin, and only slightly big-boned or thick-thighed look would have pleased 90+ percent of guys.

[QUOTE=Savior Faire]I have posted several times that customers should go to Club Fantasies to encourage and reward the 2-for-1 and $10 per dance promotions.
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the bottomless dances upstairs are $30 each and I only paid her $10 each. That's crazy. The illogic is mindboggling. I know none of them gets paid to be intelligent, but Jesus you'd think one of them would see the multiple ways that makes no sense. .[/QUOTE]

Actually, she was right. The 2-fers refer to topless dances. She was new, so she didn't know that, and I guess you didn't either, so it was a legitimate misunderstanding, but not a basis for a rant.

I was just about to post the same thing. The dancer screwed up. She may or may not have done it intentionally. Since I wasn't there I am not going to pass judgment on the DJ or the housemother's behavior. It certainly sounds like they over reacted but, for better or worse, the club is generally right...

[QUOTE=Boston P A]Actually, she was right. The 2-fers refer to topless dances. She was new, so she didn't know that, and I guess you didn't either, so it was a legitimate misunderstanding, but not a basis for a rant.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boston P A]Actually, she was right. The 2-fers refer to topless dances. She was new, so she didn't know that, and I guess you didn't either, so it was a legitimate misunderstanding, but not a basis for a rant.[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't the house mother have said that when I asked if the 2-for-1 applied upstairs? Correct answer = "Yes, but only for topless dances". Her answer = "Of course", said quite bitchily. Also, I think I've seen those xeroxed signs in the club that say ALL DANCES ALL DAY, but I didn't get a chance to look as I was being thrown out by the fat shit. And in cases of misunderstanding, normal companies, plus non-normal companies like strip clubs that are smart, seek to retain a customer.They don't accuse him of deliberate malfeasance and treat him rudely. Also, how do they police that? On Tuesday and Wed. the 2-for-1 is all day. Do they have somebody looking in the booths for every dance to see if a dancer took her bottom off? I've had full nude 2 for 1 s up there with 2 dancers and they charged 2 for $20. In this case with Madison, she instantly took her top off, and I told her not to do that, it should be a bit of a tease, that I wasn't in a hurry and wanted a whole bunch of songs, so she could gradually strip. The bottom didn't come off until the third song. Club personnel couldn't verify just by looking in once, they would have to look in for each song to see if a bottom is off. Also, what a dancer charges is completely up to her. The club may recommend a certain price, but if a dancer wants to do it for less she can. I've had a dancer offer to do $10 dances after the time period allotted for $10 dances expired. Madison agreed to do the dances for $10 each. She was quite happy with that, as evidenced by her wanting to do more, by her spending most of her stage time until the den mother called her over with me, and by her giving me all her money to hold while she danced. How can the club back her up in retroactively charging triple the price she agreed to?

[QUOTE] How can the club back her up in retroactively charging triple the price she agreed to? [/quote]She's new, the last thing she wants is to get into an argument with mgmt. Sounds to me that she was being honest, that mgmt screwed up here. But hey, such is life, live and learn. As a CF regular, I have always known that nude dances are ridiculously priced as compared to topless, it just isn't worth it to me to remove a thin thong anyways. I would also advise that you never take a stripper's money, ever! That's a recipe for disaster, all she has to do is the he said, she said thing and you're paying up. CF is a great place IMO, yes there can be a few dishonest people, but for the most part I've avoided them.

Good luck

[QUOTE=Savior Faire]
And in cases of misunderstanding, normal companies, plus non-normal companies like strip clubs that are smart, seek to retain a customer.They don't accuse him of deliberate malfeasance and treat him rudely.[/QUOTE]

LOL, never use normal companies and strip clubs in the same sentence. You will lose every time. The club is always right. Not the customer, not the dancer...

[QUOTE=Savior Faire]Also, how do they police that? On Tuesday and Wed. the 2-for-1 is all day. Do they have somebody looking in the booths for every dance to see if a dancer took her bottom off? I've had full nude 2 for 1 s up there with 2 dancers and they charged 2 for $20. [/QUOTE]

OK, you know what, the other dancers where wrong too. As far as policing it the DANCERS themselves take care of that. The vast majority of dancers don't want to do all-nude dances for $10 each so they report the ones they see doing it to the house mother or the DJ. You got lucky a few times and found some sneaky dancers that where willing to risk getting fined or yelled at my the club in order to get your money. Some dancers do stupid things.

Look, you got treated like shit, I'm not saying you didn't, but it's SOP in a strip club...exercise your right not to spend anymore money there...

[QUOTE=Savior Faire]When I went to give her the $60 for the 6 dances, Madison asked me to hold it until after she goes onstage because she forgot her purse and has nowhere to put it. She also gave me the rest of the money she has made that night to hold.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I really hate it when...[QUOTE=Savior Faire]the dancer gives me hundreds of dollars of her money to hold while she dances...[/QUOTE]In reality, the club was keeping a new dancer in check. You weren't supposed to be involved. When you got involved in the discussion with the club mgmt, that pissed them off, which is why you got the boot.

I agree you got screwed and I agree that mostly all strip clubs assume the customer is in the wrong and shoot first. The atmosphere doesn't lend itself to having a quiet intelligent discussion. I don't blame you for being pissed, I think everyone of us would be, but what can you do but take your business elsewhere.

I personally stopped going to CF about 3 years ago after getting into a little scuffle with the bouncer(s) (1 at first..but they swarm like ants) because my friend said something to me and I laughed while watching a girl dance. The girl took offense to my laughing and went over to the bouncer and told him I laughed at her. He proceeds to come over to my chair, grab me by the shirt (wripping it). At that point, I take him out. So far so good, but in a few seconds, it became attack of the killer ants...(I never realized how many of them there actually are in there)...needless to say the rest of the night wasn't much fun and I haven't attempted to go back since.

That's 3 of us now. Me, you and my friend have started a CF boycott...fellow mongers revolt!!!

In reality, the club was keeping a new dancer in check. You weren't supposed to be involved. When you got involved in the discussion with the club mgmt, that pissed them off, which is why you got the boot.

I agree you got screwed and I agree that mostly all strip clubs assume the customer is in the wrong and shoot first. The atmosphere doesn't lend itself to having a quiet intelligent discussion. I don't blame you for being pissed, I think everyone of us would be, but what can you do but take your business elsewhere.

I personally stopped going to CF about 3 years ago after getting into a little scuffle with the bouncer(s) (1 at first..but they swarm like ants) because my friend said something to me and I laughed while watching a girl dance. The girl took offense to my laughing and went over to the bouncer and told him I laughed at her. He proceeds to come over to my chair, grab me by the shirt (wripping it). At that point, I take him out. So far so good, but in a few seconds, it became attack of the killer ants...(I never realized how many of them there actually are in there)...needless to say the rest of the night wasn't much fun and I haven't attempted to go back since.

That's 3 of us now. Me, you and my friend have started a CF boycott...fellow mongers revolt!!![/QUOTE]


I have been going to CF even before it moved to its current location. The wife and I go for lunch during the dollar burger and two for one dances. I think the place has the best caberet section and the dollar dances you get there are a great value.

In twenty four years I have never had an issue with anyone. With the one exception about fifteen years ago in the old cabaret section (bunch of sofas in a circle) I was stupid and left my dollar bills in a top shirt pocket. Lost about $20.00.

[QUOTE=Erokejs]That's 3 of us now. Me, you and my friend have started a CF boycott...fellow mongers revolt!!![/QUOTE]
We'll make T-shirts that say "Club Fantasies - What a Nightmare!"

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Well since my ATF Natasha left CF and is now Angel at Foxy Providence, that is where I now go. Let me tell you although you pay a bit more for the private rooms downstairs, you don't get bothered at the Foxy. I remember at CF all the girls would be scared to death of the bouncers. Always looking out to see where they were, adjusting the mirrior etc. At Foxy its $300 for 30 minutes or $450 for the hour and the girl gets to keep 2/3rds of the $$ vs. CF its $260 for 30 minutes and I believe the girl only got $120.

But Foxy is much cleaner and more private. Try to get the end room, it has a door then a long hallway the jogs to the left. The room has a corner couch and even has a nice flat screen tv in the room. I took a few girls at Foxy downstairs to the private rooms over the last few months and always left very happy. But a bit broke. So if you got the cash. Its a definate good time.

[QUOTE=Boston Dynasty] At Foxy its $300 for 30 minutes or $450 for the hour and the girl gets to keep 2/3rds of the $$ vs. CF its $260 for 30 minutes and I believe the girl only got $120.
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CF is $130 per fifteen minutes. The girl gets $100 and the club gets $30. For 30 minutes it's $200 for the girl and $60 for the club. If any dancer told you differently she was yanking your chain trying to get a tip.

Natasha, or whatever her name is now is quite hottie and always a good time. I was getting her at the Foxy in Brockton for $350 for the hour (200 to her, $150 for the room and the champagne).

No stripper is worth $450 for an hour in a VIP room. Not when I can get a woman just as good in a hotel room for $300 an hour.

[QUOTE=Boston Guy 57]CF is $130 per fifteen minutes. The girl gets $100 and the club gets $30. For 30 minutes it's $200 for the girl and $60 for the club. If any dancer told you differently she was yanking your chain trying to get a tip.

Natasha, or whatever her name is now is quite hottie and always a good time. I was getting her at the Foxy in Brockton for $350 for the hour (200 to her, $150 for the room and the champagne).

No stripper is worth $450 for an hour in a VIP room. Not when I can get a woman just as good in a hotel room for $300 an hour.[/QUOTE]


hate to tell you guys $200.00 gets ya one hour in an amp and a guaranteed lay with a cute Asian chick. No sticky chairs, no BS in the middle of the act.