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[QUOTE=Appius;2220129]Has anyone partied with the SoCalCircus Yahoo Group out in La Mirada, CA?
They have night GBs on Friday and Saturday, and a daytime GB on Monday every week.
If anyone has partied with them can you post a report please?[/QUOTE]Went to a Daytime GB on a Monday a few months ago when they where hosting them in Ontario, fun times.
[QUOTE=Appius;2220129]Has anyone partied with the SoCalCircus Yahoo Group out in La Mirada, CA?
They have night GBs on Friday and Saturday, and a daytime GB on Monday every week.
If anyone has partied with them can you post a report please?[/QUOTE]Went to a Daytime GB a few months back when they where hosting them in Ontario, fun times legit people.
[QUOTE=Sc100;1795156]Just wondering if any of you have ever dated a gal in Guadalajara or any other Mexican city / state besides Tijuana? I found a drop dead gorgeous chick while searching for latinas and I'm seriously considering taking a trip down there just for her. I do know I can get a lot of ass here for what I'll spend taking the trip but she is the epitome of what I think is hot! While it's obvious that many of the chicks on that site are fake, many appear to be real. I at least know that the pictures of this particular hottie were taken in Mexico because of the color of the home. What I don't know for sure is if the pictures really belong to the person that posted the ad. Fake ads on CL and BP are obvious to me because the blonde college party girl pics stick out like a sore thumb. Could it be the case with this chick and I just don't see it? Maybe she the Angie Varona of Mexico?
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I hear Guadalajara has some of the hottest women in Mexico area.
But south america does also.
Lots of hot chicks in Guadalajara.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2216896]
A year. $13,450 dollars. And they didn't charge her with lying or anything else. She simply was allowed to walk away.
n.[/QUOTE]That's because it's up to you to file a complaint, and in this case you should have filed a civil suit against her as well.
Economics: Economics is the science that deals with the production, allocation, and use of goods and services.
In order to monger (in this case SW) we all must make money (production), use that money to maintain our car (allocation) and to pay the SW (services).
I became curious about the economics of street mongering after driving around for hours looking for a SW that fit my needs. So I did an exercise to determine if the time and cost of hunting a SW is worth it versus a massage parlor. Now only a fool goes to a massage parlor that does not offer FS. A quick look at Backpage and this forum will tell you which ones to go to. So lets assume that FS at any massage parlor is $150 on average. That's $50 to get in (the so called massage) and $100 to the girl.
Conditions.
*Western Blvd.
*Daytime.
*Car that gets 23 MPG city (average).
I started at the 10 freeway and Western and worked my way down to 76th street and Western. Action can be found all along this path. The distance between the 10 freeway and 76th street is 5. 3 miles. It takes (daytime) 14 minutes to drive this distance. The bulk of the action is from Western and 29th and Western and 76th. For most serious mongers we drive up and down looking for that perfect SW. Conditions determine much. Daytime, nighttime, where she is standing, who she is standing with, what she looks like and what you think she costs. Rarely do we pick the first SW we see. Which means we have to drive around and around to find what we want.
On this particular day I drove up and down Western three times. In my mind most guys will do it atleast twice and then on some side streets as well. So that's 15.9 miles. And to drive up and down Western three times takes 14 minutes. So in total that's 42 minutes.
*So at this point, just to drive up and down Western looking for a SW it will take you 42 minutes and 15.9 miles.
Now you need to arrive at Western from your starting point. I've picked four points in all directions from the 10 freeway and Western. Distances from Western and the 110 to the following places:
*Santa Monica-11 miles.
*Pasadena-15 miles.
*Long Beach-21 miles.
*Valley (Van Nuys) -21 miles.
Time wise, averaging all four locales, it will take you 30 minutes to get to Western. And averaging all four distances, it is 17 miles.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 72 minutes (1 hour and 12 minutes).
My car averaged 18 mpg for this exercise. I will say for this exercise that gas is $3. 75 per gallon. So for this exercise lets say I burned 2 gallons of gas at $3. 75 gallon.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes at a cost of $7. 50 in gasoline.
I have never paid more than $40 dollars for a SW on Western but I know many of you spend $60 for FS on Western. Plus a condom we will say (a Magnum) is $2 bucks.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes, spent $7. 50 in gasoline, $60 for the SW and $2 for the condom.
Then comes the question about wear and tear on your car and what is your time worth. I will combine then and say both are worth (combined) $20 per hour.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes, spent $7. 50 in gasoline, $60 for the SW, $2 for the condom and $22 for your time and wear and tear on the car.
I assume many of us will go to the Snooty Fox for a 2 hour room. That's $27 dollars.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes, spent $7. 50 in gasoline, $60 for the SW, $2 for the condom,$22 for your time and wear and tear on the car and $27 for the room.
Whats the verdict?
To find a SW on Western it will take you an hour and 12 minutes and you will need to drive 32 miles. It will cost you a total of $118 dollars.
I was surprised at this myself. Most of us are thinking "I'm only spending $40 or $60 bucks". But in reality its nearly double that cost. And it is a terribly inefficient process to find sex and fraught with dangers-robberies, LEO, being shot at (as one monger posted recently). So in my opinion a Massage Parlor is a safer, economically viable choice. For example if I pay my $50 and the girl does nothing I don't tip her. Period. The worker or the mamasan isn't going to rob you. And its very doubtful LEO is going to burst into the MP with you in there. And even if they did your reasons for being there are more legitimate than getting caught with your pants down in your car in a back alley.
Food for thought.
Now if I can find a pregnant SW.
Showdown.
God bless you, Showdown. I am so glad you found this site!
[QUOTE=Showdown;2223005]Economics: Economics is the science that deals with the production, allocation, and use of goods and services.
In order to monger (in this case SW) we all must make money (production), use that money to maintain our car (allocation) and to pay the SW (services).
I became curious about the economics of street mongering after driving around for hours looking for a SW that fit my needs. So I did an exercise to determine if the time and cost of hunting a SW is worth it versus a massage parlor. Now only a fool goes to a massage parlor that does not offer FS. A quick look at Backpage and this forum will tell you which ones to go to. So lets assume that FS at any massage parlor is $150 on average. That's $50 to get in (the so called massage) and $100 to the girl.
Conditions.
*Western Blvd.
*Daytime.
*Car that gets 23 MPG city (average).
I started at the 10 freeway and Western and worked my way down to 76th street and Western. Action can be found all along this path. The distance between the 10 freeway and 76th street is 5. 3 miles. It takes (daytime) 14 minutes to drive this distance. The bulk of the action is from Western and 29th and Western and 76th. For most serious mongers we drive up and down looking for that perfect SW. Conditions determine much. Daytime, nighttime, where she is standing, who she is standing with, what she looks like and what you think she costs. Rarely do we pick the first SW we see. Which means we have to drive around and around to find what we want.
On this particular day I drove up and down Western three times. In my mind most guys will do it atleast twice and then on some side streets as well. So that's 15.9 miles. And to drive up and down Western three times takes 14 minutes. So in total that's 42 minutes.
*So at this point, just to drive up and down Western looking for a SW it will take you 42 minutes and 15.9 miles.
Now you need to arrive at Western from your starting point. I've picked four points in all directions from the 10 freeway and Western. Distances from Western and the 110 to the following places:
*Santa Monica-11 miles.
*Pasadena-15 miles.
*Long Beach-21 miles.
*Valley (Van Nuys) -21 miles.
Time wise, averaging all four locales, it will take you 30 minutes to get to Western. And averaging all four distances, it is 17 miles.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 72 minutes (1 hour and 12 minutes).
My car averaged 18 mpg for this exercise. I will say for this exercise that gas is $3. 75 per gallon. So for this exercise lets say I burned 2 gallons of gas at $3. 75 gallon.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes at a cost of $7. 50 in gasoline.
I have never paid more than $40 dollars for a SW on Western but I know many of you spend $60 for FS on Western. Plus a condom we will say (a Magnum) is $2 bucks.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes, spent $7. 50 in gasoline, $60 for the SW and $2 for the condom.
Then comes the question about wear and tear on your car and what is your time worth. I will combine then and say both are worth (combined) $20 per hour.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes, spent $7. 50 in gasoline, $60 for the SW, $2 for the condom and $22 for your time and wear and tear on the car.
I assume many of us will go to the Snooty Fox for a 2 hour room. That's $27 dollars.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes, spent $7. 50 in gasoline, $60 for the SW, $2 for the condom,$22 for your time and wear and tear on the car and $27 for the room.
Whats the verdict?
To find a SW on Western it will take you an hour and 12 minutes and you will need to drive 32 miles. It will cost you a total of $118 dollars.
I was surprised at this myself. Most of us are thinking "I'm only spending $40 or $60 bucks". But in reality its nearly double that cost. And it is a terribly inefficient process to find sex and fraught with dangers-robberies, LEO, being shot at (as one monger posted recently). So in my opinion a Massage Parlor is a safer, economically viable choice. For example if I pay my $50 and the girl does nothing I don't tip her. Period. The worker or the mamasan isn't going to rob you. And its very doubtful LEO is going to burst into the MP with you in there. And even if they did your reasons for being there are more legitimate than getting caught with your pants down in your car in a back alley.
Food for thought.
Now if I can find a pregnant SW.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mazda05;2222544]I hear Guadalajara has some of the hottest women in Mexico area.
But south america does also.
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[QUOTE=Showdown;2215880]My 20 year old finally reached out to me. Her email address and phone both were deleted and shut off. I know many of you reached out to me about her and I was frustrated myself that I couldn't find her or get ahold of her.
She called me in a desperate state. She said she was in a motel in Koreatown and could I help her with $100. I tried to ask her what was going on I. E her disappearing. I couldn't get an answer out of her. I felt something was amiss. I then told her what do I get for $100 and she said same as before.
I had a bad feeling about this. But I saw an episode of the tv show The Shield the day before so I was feeling adventurous.
Bad move.
I arrived at the motel. If that's what you call it. It was dirty on the outside and when I entered the lady behind the wall of bulletproof glass asked for me I'd. I said I was just visiting someone and just at that moment I heard screaming and kicking down the hall. The lady looked unaffected by this. I gave her an old work I'd from a job many years ago and walked to my 20 year old room. As I approached I could hear other voices behind the door. I stood to the side of the door as I knocked not knowing if some guys were going to grab me and pull me into the room to rob me. I knocked and my 20 year old answered the door.
My God.
The room was covered in trash and debris. Awful chemical smells emanated from the room. I am assuming it was illegal substances. I could even see a needle on the table. There were two guys and two other girls in this small hotel room. My 20 year old looked like she had not slept in 2 days. She looked absolutely awful. I asked her "what is this" and she whispered "we can do it in the bathroom".
I turned and walked away. I walked to the lady to get my I'd back and my 20 year old and some stoned out young guy comes with her. She says "its ok my friends all know what I am doing'. And the guys says "yeah its cool".
I walked the block to my car and left (never park your car near where you do the deed. Safer for you). I was not going to contribute nor get involved in a chemical induced situation. LEO and bad things always happen. I deleted her number. I think I saved us all a lot of trouble.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Sorry it went down like that but good looking out for the other fellas bro!
BM.
3. 75 a gallon. Thats a pretty good deal.
Now if I could only find a big tittied girl who will take a facial for 5 dollars.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2223005]Economics: Economics is the science that deals with the production, allocation, and use of goods and services.
In order to monger (in this case SW) we all must make money (production), use that money to maintain our car (allocation) and to pay the SW (services).
I became curious about the economics of street mongering after driving around for hours looking for a SW that fit my needs. So I did an exercise to determine if the time and cost of hunting a SW is worth it versus a massage parlor. Now only a fool goes to a massage parlor that does not offer FS. A quick look at Backpage and this forum will tell you which ones to go to. So lets assume that FS at any massage parlor is $150 on average. That's $50 to get in (the so called massage) and $100 to the girl.
Conditions.
*Western Blvd.
*Daytime.
*Car that gets 23 MPG city (average).
I started at the 10 freeway and Western and worked my way down to 76th street and Western. Action can be found all along this path. The distance between the 10 freeway and 76th street is 5. 3 miles. It takes (daytime) 14 minutes to drive this distance. The bulk of the action is from Western and 29th and Western and 76th. For most serious mongers we drive up and down looking for that perfect SW. Conditions determine much. Daytime, nighttime, where she is standing, who she is standing with, what she looks like and what you think she costs. Rarely do we pick the first SW we see. Which means we have to drive around and around to find what we want.
On this particular day I drove up and down Western three times. In my mind most guys will do it atleast twice and then on some side streets as well. So that's 15.9 miles. And to drive up and down Western three times takes 14 minutes. So in total that's 42 minutes.
*So at this point, just to drive up and down Western looking for a SW it will take you 42 minutes and 15.9 miles.
Now you need to arrive at Western from your starting point. I've picked four points in all directions from the 10 freeway and Western. Distances from Western and the 110 to the following places:
*Santa Monica-11 miles.
*Pasadena-15 miles.
*Long Beach-21 miles.
*Valley (Van Nuys) -21 miles.
Time wise, averaging all four locales, it will take you 30 minutes to get to Western. And averaging all four distances, it is 17 miles.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 72 minutes (1 hour and 12 minutes).
My car averaged 18 mpg for this exercise. I will say for this exercise that gas is $3. 75 per gallon. So for this exercise lets say I burned 2 gallons of gas at $3. 75 gallon.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes at a cost of $7. 50 in gasoline.
I have never paid more than $40 dollars for a SW on Western but I know many of you spend $60 for FS on Western. Plus a condom we will say (a Magnum) is $2 bucks.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes, spent $7. 50 in gasoline, $60 for the SW and $2 for the condom.
Then comes the question about wear and tear on your car and what is your time worth. I will combine then and say both are worth (combined) $20 per hour.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes, spent $7. 50 in gasoline, $60 for the SW, $2 for the condom and $22 for your time and wear and tear on the car.
I assume many of us will go to the Snooty Fox for a 2 hour room. That's $27 dollars.
*So at this point you have driven 32 miles for 1 hour and 12 minutes, spent $7. 50 in gasoline, $60 for the SW, $2 for the condom,$22 for your time and wear and tear on the car and $27 for the room.
Whats the verdict?
To find a SW on Western it will take you an hour and 12 minutes and you will need to drive 32 miles. It will cost you a total of $118 dollars.
I was surprised at this myself. Most of us are thinking "I'm only spending $40 or $60 bucks". But in reality its nearly double that cost. And it is a terribly inefficient process to find sex and fraught with dangers-robberies, LEO, being shot at (as one monger posted recently). So in my opinion a Massage Parlor is a safer, economically viable choice. For example if I pay my $50 and the girl does nothing I don't tip her. Period. The worker or the mamasan isn't going to rob you. And its very doubtful LEO is going to burst into the MP with you in there. And even if they did your reasons for being there are more legitimate than getting caught with your pants down in your car in a back alley.
Food for thought.
Now if I can find a pregnant SW.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Showdown;2223005]Economics: Economics is the science that deals with the production, allocation, and use of goods and services.
In order to monger (in this case SW) we all must make money (production), use that money to maintain our car (allocation) and to pay the SW (services).
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Very detailed analysis econo 101!
[QUOTE=TW978;2224070]Very detailed analysis econo 101![/QUOTE]As in any entertainment factor, the excitement factor is key. Some guys like the chase of the hunt, gets the mojo up so that has to be factored in. So its an entertainment value.
I agree, for me the AMP factor of the massage is worth it, and the convince of the extra and safety factor is well worth it.
I do drive one of the tracks at lunch just for the spotting factor, but never pick up. 40 years ago on Sunset Blvd, well that's a different story but you guys don't care. $10 bucks, no aids.
I have a Craigslist strategy that I have honed over years of use. It has a 25% success rate that screens the girl, meets the girl, gets the sex out of the girl at a minimal cost and keeps the girl as a repeat. Trust me a 25% success rate with CL is pretty good given all of the foolishness out there.
I have been grooming (ie getting ready to meet and get what I want) a lovely 20 year old Greek (and when I say Greek I mean right off the boat from Greece) girl that needs money and support. After two weeks of conversations (remember boys always be patient and remember you control the $ so you are in control) I finally met with her. She initially said that a CBJ was the only possibility for $30 bucks. Yes $30 bucks. She needed enough money to keep gas in her scooter (she is a college student). I promised her the $30 weekly even if we didn't meet until we decided to stop meeting.
Why would I do this you ask? What makes her-call her Athena the Greek-worthy of $30 bucks a week?
For several reasons.
First girls always tend to minimize what they will do sexually until they actually meet you. In 95% of my experiences a girl will do more than what she says. So I knew-or had a reasonable assumption-that my $30 a week would get me more than a $30 CBJ. When a provider first meets you she doesn't know you. So looks, appearance, smell (Polo Red!) and other factors play into how much she will do beyond what she has already promised. Plus being handsome helps.
Athena was very late for our first meeting. I was angry-or so I let it appear to be to her. She said she was stuck in traffic and I told her I was leaving. I told her we had planned this and it was unacceptable to be late.
Control the situation guys!
She then started calling my phone and I wouldn't answer. She did this for about ten minutes and finally I answered. She apologized up and down and said she was so sorry. I told her I had already left (actually I was still parked near our meeting hotel in Koreatown). I actually watched her pull up and talk to me on the phone as she exclaimed her sorrow.
Gotcha!
She was a real sweetheart. Typical for a Greek girl, she was a little thick around the hips but her large boobs and her nipples (I could see them through her shirt) made up for it. We got in the room and initially she was scared I was LEO. I then pretended to walk out (control the situation guys) and she grabbed my arm and said she was convinced I was not LEO. I am such an experienced and serious monger I have business cards showing where I work (its not actually where I work but the number on the card answers to a v / m with my voice) so she knows I am not LEO. Preparation men!
After that she didn't wait five minutes. She asked me. Mind you asked me. What it was I wanted. I said you promised a CBJ. And without a word she disrobed and got on the bed. She had the largest areolas I have ever seen. Then she said "I like you".
That was all I needed to hear.
She then gave a very weak BJ (again I did an uncovered BJ. But with non pros I feel more comfortable doing this compared to a SW or AMP girl who I always use a condom with for everything). I was starting to think this was going to be a dead fish type of lay.
Wrong.
She then put her a*s in the air and said "pound it". I was a little surprised as she seemed to be a bit conservative but I guess the porn star in girls will come out if the right situation exists. I could see she was soaking wet. Her p*ssy was actually glistening. As I entered I could actually hear a slurping sound. Almost like she was sucking me in. She buried her head in the pillow and I pounded away. She was speaking Greek, then English. It was such a turn on I lasted less than ten minutes. Yes I know I didn't get missionary or anything else but guys the doggy was out of this world. And she was cumming (atleast twice) so hard her legs were shaking.
When we stopped she was beet red. She hugged me and held me. I could tell it met a lot to her for some reason. She then tells me she didn't have sex in a long time and that she was so happy I was kind to her and it was me.
Uh oh.
Another one getting too attached.
As we got dressed I went to get my wallet to pay her. She gently put her hand on my wallet and said"no".
I didn't say another word.
As we left there was a shop a few doors down. She asked me would I buy her a Vanilla Coke. I happily did so.
Imagine getting Athena the Greek in the sack. For a Vanilla Coke.
Showdown.