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[QUOTE=Careym1980;6805752]Now that's not very kind of you. And completely false at that.[/QUOTE]I'll take it that one of you thought you'd get a better deal and introduced the user to the Profile. Now they're definitely pro and going to increase their allowance right?
Still would like to know if she's BBFS, likely is since she's not being commented on.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2bd7a0d9-59a5-401b-95c5-c3310f31bf4a[/URL]
Boy or girl?
[QUOTE=AvgWhiteGuy;6807830][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2bd7a0d9-59a5-401b-95c5-c3310f31bf4a[/URL]
Boy or girl?[/QUOTE]Scammer. Wants virtual and cash.
[QUOTE=Donger999;6807861]Scammer. Wants virtual and cash.[/QUOTE]Agreed, scammer. With at least 2 profiles. Here is the other:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/92ed9672-c393-4cf6-a4d9-00b1c7144aa2[/URL]
Guys! This is why we can't have nice things, someone has most likely been blabbing to Carey and now she's on here defending herself. Consider this site like Fight Club.
[QUOTE=Careym1980;6805752]Now that's not very kind of you. And completely false at that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Malfoy829;6806546]She was mentioned early this month. I did not contact her. The attached is the entirety of our conversation.[/QUOTE]That body has more filler than my oversized sectional.
Let me ask you all this:
Are some of you only on SA for the sex and could honestly care less about the women? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to treat them like shit by hitting it and quitting it. I fully intend to do my best to treat them with respect. But there are women here with paragraph after paragraph on their personality and intellect, how they want to be treated, how the man should take them golfing, horsebacking, vacations, the moon, etc.
Those profiles, which I'm referring to hot girls only, are intimidating and it's clearly obvious in my situation that I'm not their expectation. Do most of you reach out anyways with only allowance in mind, and not her fantasy?
I've had SA success regardless as money does talk and usually get at least a couple of visits with the woman until it's no longer financially viable for me, meaning I block, ghost, or deactivate.
Anyone here just have a basic income job and not the 6 figure income, or is it just me?
[QUOTE=Dildon;6808827]Let me ask you all this:
Are some of you only on SA for the sex and could honestly care less about the women? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to treat them like shit by hitting it and quitting it. I fully intend to do my best to treat them with respect. But there are women here with paragraph after paragraph on their personality and intellect, how they want to be treated, how the man should take them golfing, horsebacking, vacations, the moon, etc.
Those profiles, which I'm referring to hot girls only, are intimidating and it's clearly obvious in my situation that I'm not their expectation. Do most of you reach out anyways with only allowance in mind, and not her fantasy?
I've had SA success regardless as money does talk and usually get at least a couple of visits with the woman until it's no longer financially viable for me, meaning I block, ghost, or deactivate.
Anyone here just have a basic income job and not the 6 figure income, or is it just me?[/QUOTE]Some are game for temporary fun. Doesn't cost anything to find out by asking.
For what its worth. I started doing this when I was making a basic salary but was living in my parents basement at the time. I'm alot further along in my career now and have eclipsed the 6 figure mark but the cost of livivng and what these girls are asking has made this less viable for me but I have other investment goals I'm working on at the moment.
Chicago is a tough market.
[QUOTE=Dildon;6808827]Let me ask you all this:
Are some of you only on SA for the sex and could honestly care less about the women? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to treat them like shit by hitting it and quitting it. I fully intend to do my best to treat them with respect. But there are women here with paragraph after paragraph on their personality and intellect, how they want to be treated, how the man should take them golfing, horsebacking, vacations, the moon, etc.
Those profiles, which I'm referring to hot girls only, are intimidating and it's clearly obvious in my situation that I'm not their expectation. Do most of you reach out anyways with only allowance in mind, and not her fantasy?
I've had SA success regardless as money does talk and usually get at least a couple of visits with the woman until it's no longer financially viable for me, meaning I block, ghost, or deactivate.
Anyone here just have a basic income job and not the 6 figure income, or is it just me?[/QUOTE]I only have a mid five figure income and I need very little to be content, as most men do. After living expenses, saving, and 401 k contributions I still have enough left for sugaring, though it doesn't go as far as it used to. I also did well with Ethereum (a cryptocurrency) when it spiked in value a few years ago. I should have bought more than I did.
I have been with a few women who have that kind of profile years ago, and honestly it wasn't very different than the girls who are (usually) more average and straightforward and just want to fuck and relax while I take care of some bills. I'm always good to them, I don't look down on them for what we're doing (after all, I'm half of the equation), nor do I feel like I should fulfill some kind of country club fantasy for them. I don't even want that life for myself lmao. If we get along well and see each other enough, we can go do something fun in town or go out to eat or whatever.
I don't ghost or block. I do tend to space out meets by 2-4 weeks because I like to let energy build up and drain it all into them for a few hours. It makes it more fulfilling for me. But that much time away sometimes makes them upset and they move on looking for someone who wants to meet more often, which of course means more $ for them on a ppm basis.
I think that kind of hot, high maintenance woman we're talking about is probably on instagram more than Seeking now anyways.
Don't pay a lot of attention to what women write in their profiles. Those who talk about how refined and smart they are wouldn't be selling their pussy to the highest bidder if they really were. Those seeking elaborate jet set lifestyles. She's not really interested in going away on vacation with you. These women are just weeding out the average joes. Thats not my type at all. Expensive pussy doesn't mean better more exclusive pussy.
You are by no means the only guy on SA who's budget is very limited. Ask any girl and she'll tell you about the prevalence of low ballers on the site. Guys who want multiple rounds of BBFS and her to host for $200 ppm or will share your "knowledge and mentorship" in lieu of any ppm at all. There's more of these than legit guys.
But your fishing in a pond that is very, very small and shrinking by the day. Even fat / ugly / old chicks are looking for $600 min.
[QUOTE=Dildon;6808827]Let me ask you all this:
Are some of you only on SA for the sex and could honestly care less about the women? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to treat them like shit by hitting it and quitting it. I fully intend to do my best to treat them with respect. But there are women here with paragraph after paragraph on their personality and intellect, how they want to be treated, how the man should take them golfing, horsebacking, vacations, the moon, etc.
Those profiles, which I'm referring to hot girls only, are intimidating and it's clearly obvious in my situation that I'm not their expectation. Do most of you reach out anyways with only allowance in mind, and not her fantasy?
I've had SA success regardless as money does talk and usually get at least a couple of visits with the woman until it's no longer financially viable for me, meaning I block, ghost, or deactivate.
Anyone here just have a basic income job and not the 6 figure income, or is it just me?[/QUOTE]
A few of them might actually be buying the site's new branding where it makes itself out to be a high end dating site. But most of them have either had their expectations set by some social media star SBs who constantly brag about what they extract from rich men, or are trying to weed out low ballers and one offs, which I kind of don't blame them for. It's a hard wake up call for many of the girls when they join expecting to be offered sunset cruises with George Clooney and are only being offered nooners in a cheap motel with George Costanza!
Best thing is to know your own parameters and just be up front. I have limited times and locations that work for me, and a definite cap on what a single sexual experience is worth. I can honestly tell the girls that I enjoy repeating with them if the experience is good, so there's usually a good response from prospects who are willing to do ppm for a fair price. But if its clear after a few messages that logistics or funding expectations aren't a match, I move on quickly. I think blocking, etc is juvenile, but if they feel the need to lash out or lecture about their 'worth' I don't hesitate to make further contact impossible.
But I wouldn't be intimidated and try to do a meet and greet with anyone you're on the fence about. If you can disarm a girl in person with a sense of humor and being non threatening you'll be surprised how quickly some are willing to negotiate down from their initial expectations.
[QUOTE=Dildon;6808827]Let me ask you all this:
Are some of you only on SA for the sex and could honestly care less about the women? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to treat them like shit by hitting it and quitting it. I fully intend to do my best to treat them with respect. But there are women here with paragraph after paragraph on their personality and intellect, how they want to be treated, how the man should take them golfing, horsebacking, vacations, the moon, etc.
Those profiles, which I'm referring to hot girls only, are intimidating and it's clearly obvious in my situation that I'm not their expectation. Do most of you reach out anyways with only allowance in mind, and not her fantasy?
I've had SA success regardless as money does talk and usually get at least a couple of visits with the woman until it's no longer financially viable for me, meaning I block, ghost, or deactivate.
Anyone here just have a basic income job and not the 6 figure income, or is it just me?[/QUOTE]
Bad comms.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ccb1f3d6-e036-4a22-a6c1-df57f466d5d9[/URL]
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Bad comms the first time and so I deleted her and then somehow we ended up talking again, and she gave me her number again, and then the same thing happened.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3330d184-384a-d812-c867-905a3b09dd94[/URL]
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She will google search your phone number.
Then troll you and call you names smh, waste of time and a game player.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/79b6a14f-7e07-4d7a-a8ec-08a4f071bc47[/URL]
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Tries to sell pics right off the bat, that got her blocked.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a78cb6e6-53c3-4d88-ac4c-53e59be31af8[/URL]
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Time waster.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d3987b4f-5635-4878-b72d-ce91b76f2e42[/URL]
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Time waster.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2bd7a0d9-59a5-401b-95c5-c3310f31bf4a[/URL]
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Another time waster.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/190d4746-1e64-4548-9045-76fcbd4bd71a[/URL]
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Time waster.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/615ea303-8b29-4b0b-aa45-ea5dc82af695[/URL]
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Time waster.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ea66dddd-e286-4c41-b2bd-826d8a3d8659[/URL]
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Area code scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3adcb9b8-2ec0-4cec-af5b-30142335cae8[/URL]
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Doesn't really sound fun so I stopped comms.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bef1dbf2-4c45-4c6b-8482-d1c89662cfb6[/URL]
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Will ask for 6 one person talked her down to 4 she is dtf, doesn't seem motivated sexually though so I passed.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/481990fa-7c38-429f-af65-6060f1bdc8c2[/URL]
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Expects money to meet and greet. Pass.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5dea1f91-dbcb-4965-ade2-43d283e2a4b0[/URL]
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Bad comms.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9a0ddd68-f69e-4684-b09b-de28e68082a2[/URL]
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Scammer. Out of state area code but Had an iPhone so it threw me off. But then it was obvious by her VERY broken English and dialect.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb8e4a84-f1b2-4637-ad10-025a0da25e0a[/URL]
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Like her headline says: loves playing games apparently. She claims that she wanted to meet up right away Then She gave me a weird phone number, and then no reply was ever received but yet she's still online sending messages.
Finally messages back the next day to setup a meet then she wants gas money. Blocked her after that.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0ef8f6f1-e81f-4889-99a0-6e520e84352c[/URL]
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Scammer using someone else's pics. I had another girl message me with the same pics.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fe2725c5-ccd8-4d30-b6f3-10ae8d8b73aa[/URL]
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Bad comms.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b0edf2b0-b622-437a-b7c1-d0d87fe1425f[/URL]
[QUOTE=FafaFooey;6809617]A few of them might actually be buying the site's new branding where it makes itself out to be a high end dating site. But most of them have either had their expectations set by some social media star SBs who constantly brag about what they extract from rich men, or are trying to weed out low ballers and one offs, which I kind of don't blame them for. It's a hard wake up call for many of the girls when they join expecting to be offered sunset cruises with George Clooney and are only being offered nooners in a cheap motel with George Costanza!
Best thing is to know your own parameters and just be up front. I have limited times and locations that work for me, and a definite cap on what a single sexual experience is worth. I can honestly tell the girls that I enjoy repeating with them if the experience is good, so there's usually a good response from prospects who are willing to do ppm for a fair price. But if its clear after a few messages that logistics or funding expectations aren't a match, I move on quickly. I think blocking, etc is juvenile, but if they feel the need to lash out or lecture about their 'worth' I don't hesitate to make further contact impossible.
But I wouldn't be intimidated and try to do a meet and greet with anyone you're on the fence about. If you can disarm a girl in person with a sense of humor and being non threatening you'll be surprised how quickly some are willing to negotiate down from their initial expectations.[/QUOTE]This is an excellent post. Engaging and personality go along way. Of course you have to back that up with $$$ but still, you can more easily negotiate when you have that connection.
I thought this was a fascinating conversation and thought I would jump in too. And thought that FafaFooey brought up some good points.
But my approach to Seeking is simple:
1. Yes I click into a profile based on the picture, the age, the location. But I'm also looking for pictures that are actual photographs. So many times pictures look like they are from photo shoots etc. Don't want to look at those. In a weird way you're looking for imperfection in their photos. Because that's the first key that they might be real.
2. I read into their profile. More than anything, a picture might be intriguing, but if there is a blank profile, or a generic one liner. I'll refrain from reaching out. Rather have someone who has put down a few sentences. And I know there is a warm body on the other side. I read through the profile and see if there is a jumping off point. Something to talk about.
3. While my message might have "copy / pasted" elements in it, things like. Frame your message to them so it looks like you're talking to them. Look for what resonates from their profile.
4. When talking to them, I keep it civil. I ask them about what they want, I don't talk about sex, nothing with those acronyms. Hell I don't talk about sex even when I meet them in person. I'll talk about the important stuff like protection and such like that. But NEVER get explicit. I had one girl who initially asked for a crazy high allowance. When I told her that wouldn't work for me, she basically came down on her own accord. Because she enjoyed meeting me, thought I was normal etc.
5. Stick to what you want - I'm not going over 350 for an allowance. I had one girl I met, we had great conversation - she initially wanted $2K a month. Came down to $500 per meet. I was willing to come up to $400 for her. But when she wouldn't budge, neither did I!
[QUOTE=Dildon;6808827]Let me ask you all this:
Are some of you only on SA for the sex and could honestly care less about the women? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to treat them like shit by hitting it and quitting it. I fully intend to do my best to treat them with respect. But there are women here with paragraph after paragraph on their personality and intellect, how they want to be treated, how the man should take them golfing, horsebacking, vacations, the moon, etc.
Those profiles, which I'm referring to hot girls only, are intimidating and it's clearly obvious in my situation that I'm not their expectation. Do most of you reach out anyways with only allowance in mind, and not her fantasy?
I've had SA success regardless as money does talk and usually get at least a couple of visits with the woman until it's no longer financially viable for me, meaning I block, ghost, or deactivate.
Anyone here just have a basic income job and not the 6 figure income, or is it just me?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChiGuy1711;6756563]Anyone have any luck with cuddle companions? I was looking at Chloecuddles93, but wondering if that site is a waste of time.[/QUOTE]The session booking process is unpleasant requires you to pay the house cut (40% ! Before you can even have the girl's number. You chat with the girl first on the platform and if you agree to meet, you pay the house. And all payment options are such that cannot be disputed and reversed. If the meet doesn't occur for whatever reason, funds will be used as "credit for the next session". They monitor the chat so no private contact info is exchanged prior to the payment. Seen one girl over there, took her offline of course. Was looking at few others, including Cleo but she must have been on something when I tried to inquire about here approx. Location, so I moved on.
But enough on that nonsense called cuddle companions. Want to get some action? Try cuddle comfort. The more you observe it the more you realize, its an escort site disgusting as a cuddle site (even if that was not the initial intention, it has become such). Be patient. Some of the girls there are true cuddlers. But quite a few are low key SW and women that use this place to get laid, get a nice meal, and make money doing so. They will opportunistically engage is extracurricular activities if they like the client or trust him enough and want to recruit him as a regular. My success rate there is more than 80%. Most of them will book the first session online (to "follow the session booking rules") but will have you book future sessions with them directly to stiff the house. Those who offer the type of cuddle we are looking for will eventually get reported and banned (sometimes by a client, sometimes by another cuddler) but until they do, they make some money, the house makes some money, and everyone plays pretend until the evidence no longer allows them to and they have to can the girl in order to attempt to maintain the platonic face. I will not mention names and will not give out names or numbers.
Be patient. Be nice, be funny and charming. Don't act thirsty, let the girl initiate, it may take 1-2 meets. If worth it. You will find some true GFE partners who will not fake it like a formal SW will, and for much less. Some of the most innocent looking creatures there will let you go hoby buchanon on them I shit you not. Yes I have two dom / sub partners off of there as well. One of them is a solid "9". You're everyday girl that you will never suspect. Daytime job, regular life, clean, no pimp, no drugs.
Good luck.