That's the dilemma or quandary.
[QUOTE=JD0953;6023495]What is the suggested tip amounts for Serenity and Royal? What is on the menu? I don't want to overpay on underpay. I don't like to discuss price openly.[/QUOTE]Hey JD.
You've asked the question that's led me to my conclusions about the superiority of up front cost places like BodyworkByUs and Hunters Den. While my opinions aren't universally shared here, I do believe the majority are in agreement. I respect the viewpoint of opposing thoughts and a give a hat tip to their superior negotiating skills. My guess is that ones who promote the open ended price shops have their negotiated prices and product nailed down before they ever text or walk in. However, that's not the approach less savvy clients possess, which is at least 90% of mongers. Years worth of careful negotiating and artful deal making has led these men to get "deals" you and I could never achieve.
There also is an unspoken allegation that those of us who promote a parlor or provider get discounted services or freebies. While I do suppose that may exist, it doesn't for me. For one, I've never wanted to become a paid endorser. Second, I hold the women who provide these services in high regard (perhaps higher than I should). I mean what they do for us, what sights they behold (a man's hairy ass, etc), the smells, the sounds, the cheap cologne, the sweat, the stale cigarettes odor, bad breath, the secretions. It's all too graphic. How could I ask them to forgo even a portion of their fee because I wrote a few words on their behalf? If some men here do that, more power to them. I just can't justify doing that.
So, many here have an AMP approach to cost, tips, and services. Most AMPs operate with middle aged matrons who speak very little English, provide a generally good massage with a happy ending. This baseline service has a typical tip that is slightly lower than the door fee for the half hour or hour. So a $50 half hour may include a $40 tip for a happy ending. Such things as under the clothing roaming, prostate massage, topless roaming, BJs, etc will move the tip to $50-$100. Full service is more rare at AMPs here, but might move the tip to $100-$200 depending on age, attractiveness, and even English comprehension of the provider. Places in Orlando FL routinely provide 20 and 30 year old cute Asian girls who provide phenomenal FS with extras we never see here all for $200 total cost for a 45 minute adventure. But I digress.
Here we tend to appreciate the massage girls that get naked, allow roaming, and provide a HJ or Russian finish. We also appreciate it when they don't negotiate but let us tip what we want. And most of us tip any where from matching the door fee to 150% of the door fee. So a $50 half hour massage has a $50 to $75 upcharge. A $80 hour massage has a $80 to $120 upcharge. And if the place allows DATY or BJs or FS the cost incrementally rises.
The problem is that so many of the parlors employee providers who know that if they tease sufficiently, and get the guy worked up they can tell him what the tip will be. And they will ask a lot based upon their cuteness, and your hardness. Recent reports showed one mildly attractive provider wanted $50 for a hand job, an additional $50 if she got topless, an additional $50 if she got nude, and an additional $50 if she gave a body slide. So the dudes hour massage ended up costing $280 for what BodyworkByUs does for $180. And dude had to get off the table and get the cash.
So now you see the draw for the up front pricing. Artful negotiators here are willing to leave without an orgasm or do it themselves to get the provider to accept what they offer. Of course, the obvious flaw here is that an annoyed provider lessens the experience quality for the paying customer. So if you're looking for cost containment, up front pricing gives that to you. If you want the slightly expanded menu you MIGHT find at open end price places, using Bbu prices as a model might help you to negotiate a better price. And in the interest of full disclosure, many BodyworkByUs clients leave a small tip ($20 to $30) in addition to the $120 for half hour, $150 for 45 minutes, $180 for hour (but many clients leave $0 tip). So that can help you to compare apples with apples.
I hope this discussion of consumer economics didn't bore you to sleep. Oh well, not all my posts can be about the divinity of the touch of Lauren's bare breasts on my body!
Enjoy.
G2.
Pricing and menu at Serenity and Royal
[QUOTE=JD0953;6023495]What is the suggested tip amounts for Serenity and Royal? What is on the menu? I don't want to overpay on underpay. I don't like to discuss price openly.[/QUOTE]If you don't like to discuss price openly, then you will not like Serenity and Royal, IMHO. That is required there.
Suggested tip amounts depend on what kind of play you want. At either place, if you want a fun massage with some nudity, teasing and HE, you better be prepared to tip equal to the time fee plus another $40. If you are just looking for a HE with light over the clothes roaming, tip the time fee. If you want more, then it will be the time fee plus $100 to start, and probably quite a bit more. Even if you bring chocolates. Expensive, right?
And never worry about underpaying at those places. It isn't possible. They will discuss the required price openly, so you will know exactly what minimum you must pay.
Hope that helps.
Two girls with same name. Be alert.
[QUOTE=Raspitiun;6025820]Had a visit with Phoenix at Hunters den and all I can say is wow. When I showed up she was wearing a t-shirt and some shorts with her ass hanging out. She is fantastic provided a good massage with roaming. On the flip some more teasing and then on to the main event. I left satisfied and can't wait to go back.[/QUOTE]Ok. So an FYI for all here. Shortly after I first reviewed Phoenix, the newest addition to Hunter's Den, another girl started using the same name, posting under Escorts on STG. The real Phoenix posts under Massage on STG. And she is phenomenal. The imposter is reported to have all the bad habits we hate here (old photos, upcharge fees, etc.). To make things worse the imposter has a photo with a pink teddy similar to one worn by the Real Phoenix. Don't be fooled!!
Here's the link for the Real Phoenix. Ignore the imposter one.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/phoenix/808443790283[/URL]
Hope that helps all avoid a disappointment!!
G2.
Saje. Only two appointments available today.
[QUOTE=ZzTopSterZz;6026829]A lady who coordinates her nails and her rings with her underwear is paying attention to details. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]And I'm telling you, she looks better in person! Word is getting out so her appointments are now limited. Two left today. Zero tomorrow. Zero Saturday. A couple on Sunday. Zero on Monday.
You will be astounded at the youthful beauty.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/saje-at-bbu/863994307438[/URL]
G2.