General Reports

[QUOTE=Grain56;6189072]Spot on Vino. To do something else, like tell them the "Dead President" line suggested earlier, will do nothing but get you blocked from what possibly could be a great provider.

Same with a dick pic. In fact, that pic doesn't even have to be that close. LOL.

Carlosa's false car type suggestion is in the same ballpark. Never give them accurate info. Keep yourself totally in control as much as possible. Once they see you, IF you choose to meet her after seeing her, it won't matter anyway.

Anyone that says they don't care as they have nothing to hide is foolish.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]Plenty of forums on the web and I forgot where I "read it" where they review guys who send fake pics. These girls talk way more than we do. At this point it's just way easier to find someone from here who doesn't require all that craziness. Either that or just meet civilians out and about for legit dating. I'd say the gas station, grocery store, or any bar are consistently easier places to meet than on one of those sites. Or you could always just UTR it.

Anyone seen Talia Vega? Looking for some intel. PM's preferred. Thanks.

It can never be emphasized enough, so here are some arrest reports from a recent sting, and you can see what they did wrong.

Not sure if the first one was arrested for solicitation or being stupid enough to give a SW $200, but as soon as he mentioned OR agreed to an amount And in exchange for a sex act, he was done. Same with the second guy. They weren't arrested for offering to give the girl a ride or stopping to say hi, those are not illegal, they were arrested for solicitation of prostitution, and lately they have even been recording the conversations and using them as evidence so it is much harder to fight it, even with a good lawyer. I'm not trying to get on a soap box and hopefully most dudes in this hobby already know, but obviously they are still busting guys every time they do these complete waste of time and resources stings. Now these guys lives are turned upside down with court dates, fines, jail photo on the internet, a criminal record and having to explain what happened to their wife, girlfriend, kids, parents, friends, etc. So again, just be careful, survey the landscape, and if you go in for the scoop, watch what you say and Never discuss an amount. Ask if she needs a ride, offer to buy her a coffee or for directions, all perfectly legal. If she gets in, that's a good sign as a decoy most likely will not get in the car and instead push you to talk through the window and persuade you to incriminate yourself. Then get out the area making sure you're not being followed and after that whatever happens between 2 consenting adults is none of their dam business. Hope this has been helpful. If it keeps just one person from going through what these 2 guys are going through right now, it is worth it. Stay safe!

I spent a week in Montreal for work and thought I would provide a summary of how I do these trips for the general population. This is a summation of my experience and what works for me after 8 years of shuttling back and forth for various reasons.

Some of you might read this and think "that fuck paid how much for pussy?" This post is not for you. You can't afford it, are not interesting in it, or don't understand it; there is no shame in any of that. Just don't post your commentary here; there IS shame in that. Put it in the Rat Trap where it will not annoy others.

Flights:

I exclusively use Air Canada. Service is good, flights are on time and they are direct from MCO. I have more than 50 flights to Montreal with them and they have not failed me yet.

Customs is easy; they have an electronic kiosk where you scan your passport, answer some questions and get a ticket. Present that to the customs agent and you are through. They look annoyed but I have never had a problem beyond that. Pick up your luggage, maybe answer a few more questions from the security guards when you clear the customs zone (why are you in Canada seems the be the most popular). Say whatever you like; most of the time it does not matter. They wave you though.

You also have to provide vaccinations records via an app. When you book you flight, Air Canada will tell you how to use the app. No record, no entry.

Exchanging Money:

I use my Charles Schwab checking account debit card at the ATM machines. Schwab reimburse ATM fees and the exchange rate is as good as you are going to get. I can withdraw $800 per day US which is somewhere around 1000 CAD. I use my Amazon Prime card for other transactions as there is no foreign transaction fees. Easy.

Transportation:

I use a Taxi to get from the airport to the center of town. It is roughly 50 CAD which is about 37 USD. I use the subway or Uber for everything else. Lyft is not in Montreal. I use Uber Black when I need a car because standard Uber is hit or miss. I have gotten cars that don't have AC or heat. Once a guy pulled up and the lawn chair for a front seat. Nope. There are plenty of perfectly good Ubers but I have just had bad luck.

Where to Stay:

I usually stay around Ville-Marie in downtown. It is centrally located and easy for the ladies to get too. I use AirBnB. I just don't like hotels in general. Canadians are polite but they do not like a ruckus so be discrete and mind you manners; there will be no trouble. Agent girls will have no problem with AirBnB but independents might. More on that later.

Who to Fuck:

I stick with reputable Agencies and independents. They are not hard to find.

This time around I used Euphoria ([URL]euphoriagirls.com[/URL]) and Sweet Montreal ([url]sweetmontreal.ca[/url]). Sweet Montreal lets you book 24 hours in advance and Euphoria books the day of. I call first thing in the morning. I'll book for 2 hours just to give the lady time to warm up to me and have a relaxed visit. They are often young, and the sessions are better when they have had some time to adjust to you. Prices are about $380 USD ($190 USD per hour). If the ad states "open minded" that means swallowing or something like that is on the menu. Very open minded is usually anal. Sometimes they just call it out but usually that is the code. Anal is hard to come by but it does exists. I am a TUHA kinda guy and open minded usually gets this. Never had to pay extra with the reputable agencies. This is where I pull the eye candy that I could not spend an evening with but certainly appreciate for an hour or two. They tend to be Europeans (your best chance for anal if that is your thing), out of high school local hotties looking to supplement a menial income, former strippers looking to get control of their work hours, or college girls in need of extra money. They come and go but there always appears to be a steady stream to choose from. They arrive on time through a driver that you will never see and have no problem with AirBnB that I have experienced. I have rarely had a bad date.

For longer dates that involve an event, I use independents. Many are former Agency girls who have there act together and graduate to independent status to control there time and money. They tend to have social rates and private rates that are friendly to longer dates outside the bedroom. Indy Companions (indycompanions.com) is a good start. I also use Twitter and follow some of the ladies. They all cross promote each other so you will get a pretty good idea who is available and what their personality is. On the Indy side, I have had sessions with semi pros to include a Cirque Du Soleil performer between gigs, chefs, artists and fitness instructors. Just ladies in insecure jobs looking for extra money. I've also seen pros that are in it for the lifestyle escorting affords. It's a total mix.

Some indies are starting to ask for deposits which is new. I usually don't have to do that because I am known in those circles and have a good reputation. These ladies communicate (I am told via Slack) and check up on you with other ladies you have seen. I also tend to book dates that include dinner and activities. I took a lady ax throwing once which was a good time. We have done concerts (U2 and Paul Simon) as well as Hockey games at the Centre Bell. I have not had a problem with AirBnB because of that but if you are an unknown, you might.

How not to be a Time Waster:

Open with a short email that is pleasant be gets to the point. Who you are, what you would like to do, when you want to do it and for how long. What is the vide you are after. If she is interested, talk logistics. Where to meet, when does she want payment. Does she want to drop some things off at your place so she does not need to carry them around all evening.

Based on her published rates, confirm the amount. If it is not clear what her rates are or your want something outside her published rates, just ask if she does not tell you. Don't negotiate. Accept or decline. It's as simple as that. These ladies have well publish rates so you are not going to be surprised. It's going to be about what you deduce from looking at her webpage. If you start by negotiating a rate, you are not going to have a good time or she will not take your date. Most of these ladies worth seeing have options beyond you.

Remember, this is all about you. She is there to make sure YOU have a good time. Taking her to a hockey game she wants to go to is beneficial to her, but she would rather go with her friends, not you. She may like Hockey and that may make the evening go smoother, but it is still all about you in the end. That is what you are paying for.

How to set the mood:

If you treat the ladies, regardless of the source, well, they will treat you well. Personnel hygiene is a must; manscaping wins you points. I build a play list that is as long as the private portion of the date and I have a song that is the 15 minute warning. I let her know this when we start private time. When we reach the 15 minute warning, I let her know. When the music ends, so does the date. Half of the time; the lady will stay another hour, sometimes two if the vibe is good. If this is the case, she knows she is on her time and not additional payment is expected. This is the second biggest compliment she can pay you. The first is if she has sex with you again on her time; this happens some of the time. She has done her duty and could go home but choses not too. I have only had one lady with boundary issues. She just did not read the room; I was tired and it was time to go.

I also take programmable dimmable light bulbs that I can use to set the mood of the room. Three or four do the trick. I use Bluetooth bulbs because I don't need a hub or router to control them. I also have a bag of decent unopened toiletries for the lady in the bathroom. Most of the time they don't use them but its a nice touch for those that forgot something.

Don't make a fuss about the condom. Just use the damn thing. If you have a brand you like, let them know, they will bring it. You can have your own and as long as it is unopened, they will use them. I have gotten BB on multiple occasions but usually with semi pros. I did not ask for it, I just did not stop it when it happened. The most certain way to NOT get BB is to expect it. Let her make the choice. I have only gotten BB once from an Agency and never from an Indy pro.

That's about it. Serious questions can be sent via PM. Less serious questions can be posted in the Rat Trap.

[QUOTE=Punkox;6189431]Plenty of forums on the web and I forgot where I "read it" where they review guys who send fake pics. These girls talk way more than we do. At this point it's just way easier to find someone from here who doesn't require all that craziness. Either that or just meet civilians out and about for legit dating. I'd say the gas station, grocery store, or any bar are consistently easier places to meet than on one of those sites. Or you could always just UTR it.[/QUOTE]I've heard about those type sites too. I wouldn't be too concerned.

We have the same kind of thing calling out their fake pics. It's called USASG. LOL. I guarantee that most of the women that would use that type of Forum are more guilty of that same practice than any guy. Even on the hoity-toity provider sites. Heavily filtered, blurred, edited, 10-year-old pics, etc. However, the one we get to use to call them out on is super helpful.

I doubt theirs helps them too much even if it does exist. I don't recall ever reading a single post on USASG where a Member says he was "denied" communication or seeing a provider because she said she "saw" the man posted fake pics on some Provider's Tattle-Tale Forum.

As mentioned over and over, just send a pic of someone that looks similar to you. You'll be fine.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;6190103]It can never be emphasized enough, so here are some arrest reports from a recent sting, and you can see what they did wrong.

Not sure if the first one was arrested for solicitation or being stupid enough to give a SW $200, but as soon as he mentioned OR agreed to an amount And in exchange for a sex act, he was done. Same with the second guy. They weren't arrested for offering to give the girl a ride or stopping to say hi, those are not illegal, they were arrested for solicitation of prostitution, and lately they have even been recording the conversations and using them as evidence so it is much harder to fight it, even with a good lawyer. I'm not trying to get on a soap box and hopefully most dudes in this hobby already know, but obviously they are still busting guys every time they do these complete waste of time and resources stings. Now these guys lives are turned upside down with court dates, fines, jail photo on the internet, a criminal record and having to explain what happened to their wife, girlfriend, kids, parents, friends, etc. So again, just be careful, survey the landscape, and if you go in for the scoop, watch what you say and Never discuss an amount. Ask if she needs a ride, offer to buy her a coffee or for directions, all perfectly legal. If she gets in, that's a good sign as a decoy most likely will not get in the car and instead push you to talk through the window and persuade you to incriminate yourself. Then get out the area making sure you're not being followed and after that whatever happens between 2 consenting adults is none of their dam business. Hope this has been helpful. If it keeps just one person from going through what these 2 guys are going through right now, it is worth it. Stay safe![/QUOTE]Not sure what happened to the reports in the the first post, but here they are again.

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;6190103]It can never be emphasized enough, so here are some arrest reports from a recent sting, and you can see what they did wrong.

Not sure if the first one was arrested for solicitation or being stupid enough to give a SW $200, but as soon as he mentioned OR agreed to an amount And in exchange for a sex act, he was done. Same with the second guy. They weren't arrested for offering to give the girl a ride or stopping to say hi, those are not illegal, they were arrested for solicitation of prostitution, and lately they have even been recording the conversations and using them as evidence so it is much harder to fight it, even with a good lawyer. I'm not trying to get on a soap box and hopefully most dudes in this hobby already know, but obviously they are still busting guys every time they do these complete waste of time and resources stings. Now these guys lives are turned upside down with court dates, fines, jail photo on the internet, a criminal record and having to explain what happened to their wife, girlfriend, kids, parents, friends, etc. So again, just be careful, survey the landscape, and if you go in for the scoop, watch what you say and Never discuss an amount. Ask if she needs a ride, offer to buy her a coffee or for directions, all perfectly legal. If she gets in, that's a good sign as a decoy most likely will not get in the car and instead push you to talk through the window and persuade you to incriminate yourself. Then get out the area making sure you're not being followed and after that whatever happens between 2 consenting adults is none of their dam business. Hope this has been helpful. If it keeps just one person from going through what these 2 guys are going through right now, it is worth it. Stay safe![/QUOTE]You will likely lose your job, especially if there is media coverage. It will be VERY difficult to find meaningful employment again. The arrest alone can destroy your life, even if you beat the charges.

[QUOTE=Twist;6190325]I spent a week in Montreal for work and thought I would provide a summary of how I do these trips for the general population. This is a summation of my experience and what works for me after 8 years of shuttling back and forth for various reasons.

Some of you might read this and think "that fuck paid how much for pussy?" This post is not for you. You can't afford it, are not interesting in it, or don't understand it; there is no shame in any of that. Just don't post your commentary here; there IS shame in that. Put it in the Rat Trap where it will not annoy others.

Flights:

I exclusively use Air Canada. Service is good, flights are on time and they are direct from MCO. I have more than 50 flights to Montreal with them and they have not failed me yet.

Customs is easy; they have an electronic kiosk where you scan your passport, answer some questions and get a ticket. Present that to the customs agent and you are through. They look annoyed but I have never had a problem beyond that. Pick up your luggage, maybe answer a few more questions from the security guards when you clear the customs zone (why are you in Canada seems the be the most popular). Say whatever you like; most of the time it does not matter. They wave you though....[/QUOTE]I guess you haven't traveled there since Oct 1. They have dropped all requirements for vaccine records, and you don't need to use the ArriveCan app.

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;6191601]I guess you haven't traveled there since Oct 1. They have dropped all requirements for vaccine records, and you don't need to use the ArriveCan app.[/QUOTE]I booked in August and created my profile then. That explains why I did not get a reminder to pre-test before flying; which I totally forgot about anyway. Good to know.

[QUOTE=Twist;6190325]
Exchanging Money:

I use my Charles Schwab checking account debit card at the ATM machines. Schwab reimburse ATM fees and the exchange rate is as good as you are going to get. I can withdraw $800 per day US which is somewhere around 1000 CAD. I use my Amazon Prime card for other transactions as there is no foreign transaction fees. Easy.[/QUOTE]

Gotten this question twice now. Never pay in USD even if the lady advertises USD rates. You will over pay. Always pay in CAD.

This seems to be a thing. One lady told me a lot of American guys will pull out there phones, calculate the exchange rate and try to pay in USD. They do it right in front of her to prove they are on the ‘up and up’. Once she checked an envelop and it was USD with a note that he could not break a twenty so please leave behind x amount in CAD if she did not have USD on her.

I have noted that in the last two years or so, a number of ladies state on their rates page that they will accept payment in USD at the CAD posted amount. The 25 to 30% premium to pay in USD should be your big hint.

Dont be that guy.

[QUOTE=Twist;6192521]I booked in August and created my profile then. That explains why I did not get a reminder to pre-test before flying; which I totally forgot about anyway. Good to know.[/QUOTE]I had avoided traveling to Canada because of the Covid restrictions, now since there are no restrictions at all, I plan to resume. Was just in Montreal last week, good times.

Over the years, have had both really good and really bad times in Canada. One of my worst was in Vancouver. Picked up a stunningly beautiful 18 year old and brought her to my hotel. She went into the bathroom to "freshen up" (which means to shoot up) Comes out in a towel, drops it, she was covered in bloody sores. She said " I have a picking problem, I do drugs". I told her to get dressed, she started crying, told her I would pay her anyway.

Dropped her off, went to the store, bought a gallon of bleach, roll of paper towels and rubber gloves. The hotel bathroom looked like a crime scene, blood everywhere. Took me a couple hours to clean it up, soaked the bloody towels in the tub with bleach. There was a maid cart in the hall, dumped the cleaned wet towels in the dirty towels pouch, grabbed clean ones. Took the two syringes out of the trash and took them to the biohazard bin in the restroom downstairs, along with the paper towels used for cleanup.

Still have the visual of this beautiful cute girl covered in blood stuck in my head, yuck.

Rosa / Alesandra.

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[QUOTE=Carlosa;6187439]Just posted what happened to me in rat trap.

The only reason they want a photo of you is to extort you.

Happens more than you think.[/QUOTE]Sometimes when you're thinking w / your little head, you make mistake. It was 5 yrs ago, and I still worry about this sometimes.

[QUOTE=Twist;6192680]Gotten this question twice now. Never pay in USD even if the lady advertises USD rates. You will over pay. Always pay in CAD.

[/QUOTE]I will chime in here to back up what Twist is saying. I have been going to Montreal for work for over 10 years now. Some wonderful beautiful European looking girls are available there. I usually have to drive to Quebec so rent a car and stay at a downtown hotel I. E. Residence Inn, Delta, Best Western etc. Never had a problem bringing someone into my room. Parking is a problem even at the hotels so if you don't need a car why have the hassle.

Some of the agencies have changed but most have treated me right. A couple of the agency girls gave me their numbers and we kept in touch for awhile.

I do not have a lot of money to waste so I am careful and it can easily be half or less than US escorts. And the quality is much better.

My 2 c FWIW.

Just wanted to say goodbye to a great friend. Known as Party Marty or Ipayyou. You will be missed!