Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=JhonnyBravo4;7120077]Confirmed with MMS they did get a visit from the cops. Looks like they got reported and are now having issues with the landlord. They will be closed for a short while.[/QUOTE]If a court finds that prostitution was going on and that the landlord tolerated it, he or she has a big financial problem. Under the "red light abatement" law, the court can keep the building closed for a year, while the landlord sits there with ongoing expenses and no income. So he has to protect himself.

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;7124819]If a court finds that prostitution was going on and that the landlord tolerated it, he or she has a big financial problem. Under the "red light abatement" law, the court can keep the building closed for a year, while the landlord sits there with ongoing expenses and no income. So he has to protect himself..[/QUOTE]Interesting, I just read a bit on Red Light Abatement. On the books for 100 years or so, but doesn't seem like it's used all that much. Some articles mentioned San Jose as a municipality that has tried to used that law.

City of Lake Forest vs the now defunct Lake Forest BodyCentre aka LFBC, tried to use that law. City spent around half million trying to shut down the parlor.

It's reasonable, other cities look at that and decide not to pursue it via the courts. That tends to be very expensive.

City LE agencies can have clauses for LE to do routine inspections. We've all seen peep holes in the doors, which are for just that purpose. Another lighter expense method, do as LosAl did, years ago across from the Race Track. They simply parked a marked police vehicle right in front of the door, so close, it might have prevented the door from opening all the way.

The parlors for the most part, want nothing to do with all this. They want the least friction as possible. As we have seen, they just simply pack up and move to a location that is more friendly.

I would imagine, just a notice to evict on the door indicating illegal activities as the reason is cause enough to move on for most parlor operators.

I know this is going to happen. Seriously with the crazy amount of reviews posted on this site. LE just a matter of time. But robbery, this is also bound to happen with the traffic they have everyday, you know they carry tons of cash.

This place use to be discreet about info. Now the review is 3 page essay assignment.

This is why I stayed away from those places since it got busy. They will open somewhere else.

[QUOTE=SneakyAsian;7125294]I know this is going to happen. Seriously with the crazy amount of reviews posted on this site. LE just a matter of time. But robbery, this is also bound to happen with the traffic they have everyday, you know they carry tons of cash.

This place use to be discreet about info. Now the review is 3 page essay assignment.

This is why I stayed away from those places since it got busy. They will open somewhere else.[/QUOTE]Been to both of them, honestly I don't understand what the hype is about. The quality of girls is average. Nothing to die for. Some grannies in places like cloud 9 a x2 cheaper with better service and attitude.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;7124819]If a court finds that prostitution was going on and that the landlord tolerated it, he or she has a big financial problem. Under the "red light abatement" law, the court can keep the building closed for a year, while the landlord sits there with ongoing expenses and no income. So he has to protect himself.

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]Has anyone red the red sign on the outside. I'm curious to know what it says?

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I finally got around to setting up an account and by the time it got approved to post, shit hit the fan with all the heavy hitters. Since the hot spots are cooled off, I wanted to ask. What happened to the Viet spots? Rose 999 was my ATF and there were places like that all over OC, now I can only find Viet grandmas who want to charge too much for a handy.

[QUOTE=Slavic;7124514]Anybody knows where to find some desi talent? Or is there no thing like Indian massage?[/QUOTE]Also for other ethnicity--including more Latina and white.

[QUOTE=DaveSC;7124709]Little Beauty Shop.

7 Day Skin Spa.

I believe both do what you're looking for.[/QUOTE]Do either of these places do full service in addition to waxing? Or is FS not common at the waxing places?

[QUOTE=Opi7001;7125795]Do either of these places do full service in addition to waxing? Or is FS not common at the waxing places?[/QUOTE]Tiffany does FS after waxing at 7 day skin spa.

[QUOTE=DaveSC;7124709]Little Beauty Shop.

7 Day Skin Spa.

I believe both do what you're looking for.[/QUOTE]Thanks Best waxing is how the place is called now across the street from cafe 168.

[QUOTE=Qblast;7125769]Long time lurker, first time poster.

I finally got around to setting up an account and by the time it got approved to post, shit hit the fan with all the heavy hitters. Since the hot spots are cooled off, I wanted to ask. What happened to the Viet spots? Rose 999 was my ATF and there were places like that all over OC, now I can only find Viet grandmas who want to charge too much for a handy.[/QUOTE]After they closed down Wellness and my Happy face, seems China men took over. I'm not sure if that place behind bank of America is still Viet? Anyway sad days Viet girls are tasty.

[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7126024]After they closed down Wellness and my Happy face, seems China men took over. I'm not sure if that place behind bank of America is still Viet? Anyway sad days Viet girls are tasty.[/QUOTE]I've had a few, far and between but they never seem to last and were as good as back in the day. My hunt continues. If I find anything, I'll be sure to report back!

[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7125637]Has anyone red the red sign on the outside. I'm curious to know what it says?[/QUOTE]Said this property has been found to be substandard and is under notice and order.

[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7126024]After they closed down Wellness and my Happy face, seems China men took over. I'm not sure if that place behind bank of America is still Viet? Anyway sad days Viet girls are tasty.[/QUOTE]So far every viet joint I go to had yield bad encounter all around, grandma jackhammer handy or disgusting smelling clam with rough CBJ covered basically my 3 visit to viet own places. Can you give any lowkey good recommendations?

[QUOTE=Faceless1;7126637]So far every viet joint I go to had yield bad encounter all around, grandma jackhammer handy or disgusting smelling clam with rough CBJ covered basically my 3 visit to viet own places. Can you give any lowkey good recommendations?[/QUOTE]I think someone said that place by the bridge is good?

Back in the day, 40 doorsy _140 FS with cute thong wearing bubbly Viets was the norm. (miss these cutie pies).

It's a Chinese business now, you can find them them sparingly in Saigon hotels. Not sure if that place behind the bank of America on beach is still Viet?

I'd try there. It's probably Chinese by now, I'd recommend you low-key save your money and get on a plane to Vietnam. (my high key).

[QUOTE=Faceless1;7126637]So far every viet joint I go to had yield bad encounter all around, grandma jackhammer handy or disgusting smelling clam with rough CBJ covered basically my 3 visit to viet own places. Can you give any lowkey good recommendations?[/QUOTE]Will share when I find one. In the meantime, I'm planning a punt this Friday. Will probably hit up Um. Last time Melody wore cute cat ears. Anyone know places that do cosplay, especially for the holidays? I'd love to hook up with Santa's elf.

[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7126740]I think someone said that place by the bridge is good?

Back in the day, 40 doorsy _140 FS with cute thong wearing bubbly Viets was the norm. (miss these cutie pies).

It's a Chinese business now, you can find them them sparingly in Saigon hotels. Not sure if that place behind the bank of America on beach is still Viet?

I'd try there. It's probably Chinese by now, I'd recommend you low-key save your money and get on a plane to Vietnam. (my high key).[/QUOTE]I stopped in VT Spa a few times. Yes it's Viet but every girl that greeted me looked scary. When they brought out more girls to convince me to stay, the quality deteriorated. I literally ran out two out of three times.

Which place by the bridge? I'm down to stop by bofa to scope out the talent if I have time.

I was in the area so I decided to have a dream at Asia spa / Lake Forest. I paid the 45 min house fee and drew Angela. 23 years old, originally from China with an adorable face, great C cups and nice body. I dreamt that the dress came off and I got a nice table shower, typical for Tops. Back to the room, I laid 1. 4 on the table Got a "massage" for 5 minutes. Flipped and she started BBBJ which she has some great DT skills. I had to stop her or I'd pop. She put on the hat and I sat on the edge of the table and she climbed on me for a ride. She's small, maybe 5. 2 foot so I picked her up and laid her on the table for standing mish. On to doggy which looked great and finished with her on top. My God she was great! After being in the mongering scene for a while I get the feeling she's really new to the game as she seemed a bit naive which was cute, I'd take her home if I could. Go see her with confidence, she's a good girl so treat her well. Stay safe friends!

Does anyone know where the girls from eclat, off harbor in Costa Mesa, moved to after it closed? Specifically Tiffany, the tight little body with a cute face but crooked teeth!

Could anyone recommend any Kspas in the OC?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7126740]I think someone said that place by the bridge is good?

Back in the day, 40 doorsy _140 FS with cute thong wearing bubbly Viets was the norm. (miss these cutie pies).

It's a Chinese business now, you can find them them sparingly in Saigon hotels. Not sure if that place behind the bank of America on beach is still Viet?

I'd try there. It's probably Chinese by now, I'd recommend you low-key save your money and get on a plane to Vietnam. (my high key).[/QUOTE]I'm going to Vietnam early next year.

One way ticket.

Where do you recommend going for fun over there?

Feel free to pm me.

[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7126740]I think someone said that place by the bridge is good?

Back in the day, 40 doorsy _140 FS with cute thong wearing bubbly Viets was the norm. (miss these cutie pies).

It's a Chinese business now, you can find them them sparingly in Saigon hotels. Not sure if that place behind the bank of America on beach is still Viet?

I'd try there. It's probably Chinese by now, I'd recommend you low-key save your money and get on a plane to Vietnam. (my high key).[/QUOTE]For viet, its cheaper in Vn beside like 1 days on the plane each way.

However, there are some stuff to booking in vn:

There are some district really easy for tourist.

The rest might be more difficult if you do not speak vietnamese.

There are a lot of webistes that advertise them.

If you decide to go through this, get a vietnamese sim card phone number. They will not pick up or answer the phone from a non vietnam phone number.

No screening at all. Contact the girl. She will give you which hotel to go. Get to the hotel, get a room with your I'd. Go to the room and text the girl the room number, and then the waiting game.

It normally take them 15-30 minutes to arrive. Do the deed, service the same way as Chinese in here, probably minus the shower too.

After the deed, you can leave the room, go down and pay for the room and get your I'd back. The girl will not pay for the room.

The price go from like 500 k vnd to couple M vnd for 1 shot. Roughly 25 to couple hundreds bucks. It can be upper to thousand. Depend on the age and how famous the girl is. Some of them can be models, PG show girl, singers.

For the lower end, if you go, please use condoms for your safety, you do noy want to get hiv / aids.

The tone of this thread lately suggests to me there is a hierarchy of quality in Asian women as perceived by mongers. I am guessing it goes something like this:

Vietnamese.

Korean.

Japanese.

Chinese.

What else? Do people have issues w / this order?

Where would you put certain European nationalities? I have looked at stats on 'sociosexuality', which might be related to how much a pro woman enjoys the play. In western Europe, Turkey is high on the list.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7127555]The tone of this thread lately suggests to me there is a hierarchy of quality in Asian women as perceived by mongers. I am guessing it goes something like this:

Vietnamese.

Korean.

Japanese.

Chinese.

What else? Do people have issues w / this order?

Where would you put certain European nationalities? I have looked at stats on 'sociosexuality', which might be related to how much a pro woman enjoys the play. In western Europe, Turkey is high on the list.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking, the order goes more like this. Japanese for whatever reasons they maybe seemed to be considered the top. Might be due to, until recently there was a severe lack of Japanese providers. Today, some Japanese are in the AAMP's, you probably won't find them in a AMP though.

Koreans until recently, have dominated this service area. They were tops in the AMP's and have migrated to AAMP's for the most part.

Vietnamese, seem to be mostly gone from the scene.

Chinese, seem to have taken over the AMP scene. Kind of more challenging to find a girl that isn't Chinese in the shops these days. I suspect, once they are ready to branch out, they will and probably overtake Koreans in the apartments.

Japanese.

Korean.

Chinese.

Vietnamese.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7127555]The tone of this thread lately suggests to me there is a hierarchy of quality in Asian women as perceived by mongers. I am guessing it goes something like this:

Vietnamese.

Korean.

Japanese.

Chinese.

What else? Do people have issues w / this order?

Where would you put certain European nationalities? I have looked at stats on 'sociosexuality', which might be related to how much a pro woman enjoys the play. In western Europe, Turkey is high on the list.[/QUOTE]I don't know if I could actually put an order to it. I'm an equal opportunity employer.

The truth is, you will rarely find Koreans or Japanese at an AMP. It's been that way for a long time. In terms of looks, I may learn more that direction for preference. There is a market for them but that's covered in a different thread. Since we're talking massage parlors, we need to stay within the market.

For parlors, the market is saturated with Chinese girls, which I love just fine. However, they also tend to be transactional and for the most part, they couldn't care less about you or your experience. There are a few gems, many have been highlighted on this forum (am I right?) That said, the diamonds in the rough have also been having some issues, which is why I asked about the Viet parlors.

For those that experienced the Viet scene, they were young, they were fun, they actually talked to you. You'd walk in and they were doing homework, I've even helped with their homework before. When it came to business. It felt like you were actually having sex not just f*ing.

As for Europeans, , I'm 5'7 with an average size, I prefer Asian because we just fit better. Rather not risk it and visit a place with a girl who has more mass than I do. If it's prearranged and not a walkin crapshoot, probably venture out more. Unfortunately I don't have the time or capacity to preplan a lot of my visits, as a married man, mp's give me the flexibility and access I need.

Sometimes subtlety is lost on me. Can you distinguish AAMP from AMP?

Based on terms used for girls, AA means African American, and I see none of that on here.

[QUOTE=OcAmper;7127729]I'm thinking, the order goes more like this. Japanese for whatever reasons they maybe seemed to be considered the top. Might be due to, until recently there was a severe lack of Japanese providers. Today, some Japanese are in the AAMP's, you probably won't find them in a AMP though.

Koreans until recently, have dominated this service area. They were tops in the AMP's and have migrated to AAMP's for the most part.

Vietnamese, seem to be mostly gone from the scene.

Chinese, seem to have taken over the AMP scene. Kind of more challenging to find a girl that isn't Chinese in the shops these days. I suspect, once they are ready to branch out, they will and probably overtake Koreans in the apartments.

Japanese.

Korean.

Chinese.

Vietnamese.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OcAmper;7127729]I'm thinking, the order goes more like this. Japanese for whatever reasons they maybe seemed to be considered the top. Might be due to, until recently there was a severe lack of Japanese providers. Today, some Japanese are in the AAMP's, you probably won't find them in a AMP though.

Koreans until recently, have dominated this service area. They were tops in the AMP's and have migrated to AAMP's for the most part.

Vietnamese, seem to be mostly gone from the scene.

Chinese, seem to have taken over the AMP scene. Kind of more challenging to find a girl that isn't Chinese in the shops these days. I suspect, once they are ready to branch out, they will and probably overtake Koreans in the apartments.

Japanese.

Korean.

Chinese.

Vietnamese.[/QUOTE]Guys who go to the K-orgs really rave about the experience w / Koreans. It is an apartment, not a parlor though, and getting 'approved' for those is tricky.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7127794]Sometimes subtlety is lost on me. Can you distinguish AAMP from AMP?

Based on terms used for girls, AA means African American, and I see none of that on here.[/QUOTE]Apartment Asian massage parlors.

There are other threads on this forum specifically for those services. Check out the Korea Agency and Hot Young Asian threads if you want reviews and info on AAMPs.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7127794]Sometimes subtlety is lost on me. Can you distinguish AAMP from AMP?

Based on terms used for girls, AA means African American, and I see none of that on here.[/QUOTE]Apartment Asian massage parlor.

[URL]https://orangecounty.bedpage.com/Escorts/best-irvine-anaheim-st-ana/23351503.html[/URL]

Anyone ever tried one of these places out?

Sells itself like its a massage parlor but once you get the address from them its just a house in a residential neighborhood.

Is Bebe still around?

I recall Bebe was out in the Carson area sometime ago.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7127794]Sometimes subtlety is lost on me. Can you distinguish AAMP from AMP?

Based on terms used for girls, AA means African American, and I see none of that on here.[/QUOTE]I saw a YT video where this guy cruises the streets near 78th in LA, and there are black and Latina girls standing on street corners, and walking up to cars stopped at signals. Reminds me of Hollywood a few decades ago. The girls are dressed really skimpy in broad daylight and look pretty hot but those are not areas I spend much time in myself. I am not sure what the plan is. In the back seat of the car in an alley? Or sleazy hotel? Its fun to imagine, but I am going to stick to the local Asian places.

[QUOTE=KingKon;7127506]I'm going to Vietnam early next year.

One way ticket.

Where do you recommend going for fun over there?

Feel free to pm me.[/QUOTE]One way ticket? Must be retired or starting your new life with the viet.

[QUOTE=Opi7001;7128064][URL]https://orangecounty.bedpage.com/Escorts/best-irvine-anaheim-st-ana/23351503.html[/URL]

Anyone ever tried one of these places out?

Sells itself like its a massage parlor but once you get the address from them its just a house in a residential neighborhood.[/QUOTE]More worried frim. Getting robbed from these, not to mention they usually never looks like their edited pix. Price is a bit high as well.

[QUOTE=Opi7001;7128064][URL]https://orangecounty.bedpage.com/Escorts/best-irvine-anaheim-st-ana/23351503.html[/URL]

Anyone ever tried one of these places out?

Sells itself like its a massage parlor but once you get the address from them its just a house in a residential neighborhood.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Did you check with Street View and there are no motels in the area? Recently I tried openbrothel. They connect me to two hotels at Spectrum and I interviewed 3 women and bailed. They told me to go to Santa Ana where the younger girls are. I can't. Spectrum is critical because there's no detour for me. Zero travel time.

As far as I know, bold claims like BBFS are Chinese motel / hotels operations. Moderate claims are MPs, lying or FS. Multiple nationalities are usually MPs or more expensive private houses in SVG. But then Santa Ana is where things happen.

Bedpage and sites like SugarAsians connect you to the same type of people. I've done Corona and Riverside. It starts at $120, more expensive in Irvine, where I decided to pull my condom and dump it in raw after warming up for $200. You need talent to be able to enjoy the low price. But it's critical that I do not need to detour from my routes.

[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7128219]One way ticket? Must be retired or starting your new life with the viet.[/QUOTE]Burnt out running a business.

I have over $130 k saved up, will sell my 2023 model 3 for over $20 k.

I don't have to worry about rent or mortgage.

I'm 30 and going to live life by the moment.

Enjoy each day and see different parts of the world.

I said one way ticket to Vietnam, but I will visit Thailand and Japan, etc.

I don't want to force myself for a set amount of time because I don't know if I love it or hate it.

I want to experience the digital nomad life.

Since I'll be there, and there's advice to be shared here, I'm happy to listen.

My motive for this trip isn't sex tourism though.

It's for my own mental health.

I feel like everyday is a repetitive pattern of a simulation.

I'm excited to break the chain.

Worst case scenario, this trip will make me appreciate what I have.

Win-win.

[QUOTE=KingKon;7128669]I have over $130 k saved up, will sell my 2023 model 3 for over $20 k.[/QUOTE]Hey, best of luck to you. Really - I mean that, I've done stupid shit like that when I was in my 20's, moved to a different part of the country without knowing anyone, with meager savings after graduating college.

Not today though, I'm getting more risk adverse in my 'mid life".

Enjoy your time, now is the time to do it when you are unencumbered.

[QUOTE=Faceless1;7128230]More worried frim. Getting robbed from these, not to mention they usually never looks like their edited pix. Price is a bit high as well.[/QUOTE]I've visited a few houses and apartments, been alright usually it's 200 VIP hhr. Girls are from average to 9's. Depending on the harvest. I do believe it will be harder to talk your way out of a house bust? You can't state you came for a massage.

[QUOTE=Taws6;7128748]Hey, best of luck to you. Really - I mean that, I've done stupid shit like that when I was in my 20's, moved to a different part of the country without knowing anyone, with meager savings after graduating college.

Not today though, I'm getting more risk adverse in my 'mid life".

Enjoy your time, now is the time to do it when you are unencumbered.[/QUOTE]Definitely should be epic, only problem this dumpster world is burning down and you can run and you can hide but as jimbo said no one here gets out alive. Enjoy your trip happy travels.

[QUOTE=Taws6;7128748]Hey, best of luck to you. Really - I mean that, I've done stupid shit like that when I was in my 20's, moved to a different part of the country without knowing anyone, with meager savings after graduating college.

Not today though, I'm getting more risk adverse in my 'mid life".

Enjoy your time, now is the time to do it when you are unencumbered.[/QUOTE]Good luck! Nice to step out of the norm and try something that might make you happy. I think we all wish we had lived our lives differently if we could do it again. But I can't complain. I'm one of the old folks here and just enjoy the fact that I've survived all that life could throw at me and I'm still here to enjoy some young sweet companionship.