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I have received PMs after my first post. That was great. My question is to senior members. I got PMs from users with zero posts and low (under 5) users asking for info.
I am reluctant to reply. Let me know, and other first timers, what your thoughts are on this.
WM.
I have some free time tomorrow an plan a trip to one of annas places hows the line up At the wayne Road location is it still a full menu? I recently made a trip to the islands in lansing to see the lengedary mikki, well worth the drive a total porn star a little older but her performance made up for it, she literally begged for a facial a multiple shots, anyone goin west don't pass that up. But I would appreciate some info on the local spots, I heard m1 had a new girl as well.
[QUOTE=IToftt;1946318]I have some free time tomorrow an plan a trip to one of annas places hows the line up At the wayne Road location is it still a full menu? I recently made a trip to the islands in lansing to see the lengedary mikki, well worth the drive a total porn star a little older but her performance made up for it, she literally begged for a facial a multiple shots, anyone goin west don't pass that up. But I would appreciate some info on the local spots, I heard m1 had a new girl as well.[/QUOTE]I tried out one of the new talent at the Wayne Rd. Location ... Her name is Yoko, and she told me she was Chinese / Japanese. She is pretty tall, about 5'8" and looks pretty hot. Had an hour appointment and for an extra 60 on top of the hourly fee of 60., I received a CBJ, and then a pretty nice HE. I have been to Anna's places many times, and this new girl is quite nice, but I felt slightly rushed. But for the value and the eye candy, I would suggest a visit here.
[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/faith-in-massage-call-or-text-faith-586-436-0167-60-hour-mon-thurs-1230-600-offers-manscaping/12363522[/URL]
Second trip here, and a NO GO! Even opted for the manscaping after an awesome teased massage (which was completely UN- DRAPED) thinking that there would be at least a HE HJ, BUT NO GO! She was dressed same as in ad,(very sexy) so when I hinted to more, she added, that I was being overly aggressive,(WTF)?? And that if I didn't stop, she would end session! Well I didn't want to walk out with half shaven balls, so I went along, but as I was getting my clothes on I did mention her very seductive pics, and that us guys are going to assume more, she went on an on about her BF / Hubby whatever, so I just left Paid $ for everything. This is a tease fellas, I would not fall for again no matter what she says in the future.
I am Ok with the legit massage, but hate it when these gals post like this and act like WE are the ones with the problem! What the hell so you think us guys are going to think? But hey, I TOFTT (actually 2) and a no go!
Basically, OK massage, attractive, works in a nice clean local, in her basement, however would never repeat because I feel that her ad (pics) are just a bait and switch, and I have a hard time respecting that. But a normal gal, clean and if you're looking for an ok massage at a thrift store rate, I'd say go for it!
Safe Hunting.
H2.
[QUOTE=Jennabain;1946324]I tried out one of the new talent at the Wayne Rd. Location ... Her name is Yoko, and she told me she was Chinese / Japanese. She is pretty tall, about 5'8" and looks pretty hot. Had an hour appointment and for an extra 60 on top of the hourly fee of 60., I received a CBJ, and then a pretty nice HE. I have been to Anna's places many times, and this new girl is quite nice, but I felt slightly rushed. But for the value and the eye candy, I would suggest a visit here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info I'm going to make a trip out today an report back what I can find.
Where is this place and is more avalible.
[QUOTE=Seinfeld89;1945767]Have been reading the forum for quite some time. Thought I would finally make a contribution. Thanks for all the info I have read from other members, it has been very informative.
I have been going to AMPs for quite some time now and have had some good experiences and some bad. I thought I would post my most recent experience.
A week or two ago I went to Sophia Spa, formerly Sonia Spa. Good experience, I had Donna, who is a young Korean girl, according to her 24.
Nice soft touch with lots of teasing of the boys. I prefer more teasing and soft massage rather than a actual massage. While on my stomach was able to rub her ass and vag. She had me flip and more rubbing of the ass, this time with my hands down her pants and some playing with the boobs, small but nice. And did I mention young, so many of these AMPs have 50 year olds. It was a very nice HJ and then more massage of my chest and legs, until I was ready for pop # 2.
Overall a nice experience, got the full hour $.8 door fee and $.5 tip.
Hopefully my first review was worthwhile. I will add some more reviews of my past and future experiences.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;1946702]Where is this place and is more avalible.[/QUOTE]18 1/2 and Van Dyke, just north of Van Dyke spa, but only he available.
[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;1946702]Where is this place and is more avalible.[/QUOTE]It's on vandyke just north of m59 (hall Road) in downtown Utica on the west side of the street. I highly doubt there is more available but as always ymmv
[QUOTE=IToftt;1946594]Thanks for the info I'm going to make a trip out today an report back what I can find.[/QUOTE]Tall, great nipples, trimmed, great asian CG, good thigh muscles from CA so be bait cautious as she knows the trade well LOL.
I'm not sure if the Cat being talked about here is the same Kat who has services close to the st Joe's hospital? If someone be nice to attach an ad thanks.
[QUOTE=Turrismaldon;1946868]I'm not sure if the Cat being talked about here is the same Kat who has services close to the st Joe's hospital? If someone be nice to attach an ad thanks.[/QUOTE]Search Cat on NR not the same Kat by St. Joes.
Saw Yoko this week. Took the 1/2 hour. Nice smile. Did try to give a massage, which was refreshing. Grabbed the sack a couple of times before the flip. Asked if I wanted oil when I turned over. Told her what I had had in mind and did some missionary. Pretty tight. Talked about the AMP business a bit. Nice girl.
[QUOTE=Jennabain;1946324]I tried out one of the new talent at the Wayne Rd. Location ... Her name is Yoko, and she told me she was Chinese / Japanese. She is pretty tall, about 5'8" and looks pretty hot. Had an hour appointment and for an extra 60 on top of the hourly fee of 60., I received a CBJ, and then a pretty nice HE. I have been to Anna's places many times, and this new girl is quite nice, but I felt slightly rushed. But for the value and the eye candy, I would suggest a visit here.[/QUOTE]
My first AMP experience (kind of).
(This is my 2nd post and I'm not familiar with the editing here. I originally typed this up in Word 2007, but it didn't copy over as intended and some characters are translated differently. I hope it's formatted ok).
Here is my contribution for AMPs for Newbies. I don't know if I'm even qualified to post this since I've only been to ONE AMP (probably 20+ times over the last 14 months). From what I've read, the experience varies greatly based on the AMP, and what I've written only applies to this one place. I'm not going to name the location because I don't want it to sound like an ad for the place, but it probably won't be too difficult for some of you to figure out from the description.
The Newbie in this "longer than I anticipated story" is me, 14 months ago. Never seen an Escort (at that point). Never been in a massage parlor before. Deep in a midlife crisis. Don't know how many boners I've got left in life, but want to make them count. Scared and kind of a Pussy. The Newbie comments here are close to what I was thinking, my fears and anxieties. I wish I had a Veteran to answer my concerns. I had not yet found USA SG.
The Veteran (for lack of a better term) in this story is also me, returning from the future to help guide Newbie Me through my first time at an AMP. Veteran Me may poke fun at Newbie Me, not Newbies in general. These are my observations and viewpoints (which may be totally wrong), based on my experience at this ONE AMP.
Actually, Plan A was to get an Escort. I'm the type that has to research and analyze the hell out of everything. Getting "a clue" about Escorts was becoming a lot of work. What do you mean the pictures might be fakes? What, I need references? There are scams? Etc, etc, etc. Months go by.
OK – I've done nothing so far, time for 'Plan-be'. I see these Massage Parlors all over. I find a review site that lists local AMPs. It looks like there's a good one that I pass by everyday to work. I'll try one out, get a HJ, and see how it goes. It takes weeks to P.S.ych myself up.
Then one day:
Sleep in. Check;.
Shower. Check;.
Wallet and phone hidden in car trunk. Check;.
$80 door fee in one pocket. Check;.
$40 tip in another pocket. Check;.
$40 emergency cab fare hidden in sock. Check;.
Phone numbers of guys to bail me out of jail if the place gets raided. Check;.
Rubber (just in case). Check;.
Driving to the place. Check. Hey, I grew a pair! This is actually happening!
Newbie: The AMP is between a bank and some restaurants. Are people going to watch me? Laugh at me? Point at me?
Veteran: Sorry no. You're not that important. If it makes you feel better, walk with a limp and the one person who does notice you might think you're just getting a massage.
Newbie: Ok here I go. No turning back now. The outside glass door leads to a little vestibule. In the vestibule are house plants, a sign on the wall with the half-hour and hour rates, a solid door, and a doorbell.
Veteran: Don't you wish you had a set-up like this when you were a teenager to keep your parents out of your room? Ring the doorbell. On the other side you'll hear, "Hello" and in a couple seconds the solid door opens to a smiling Korean girl (I use the term "girl" for any female). Just say Hi and step inside. (If you're returning, say Hi. Her name. It's easier for you to remember her than her to remember you). Straight ahead is a little lounge with a TV and couch for the girls. There may or may not be other girls sitting there. To the left is a hallway with massage rooms and a shower.
Newbie: Hum... I was hoping that I'd be walking into a room full of 21 year old hotties pillow-fighting.
Veteran: Nope – You watch too much porn. They're not 21, but they're not bad, and you're going to have your eyes closed most of the time anyway.
Newbie: So, do I get to choose the girl?
Veteran: In my observation. No, but I've never asked. There are usually three girls working (when I've been there). The girls take turns. This is their livelihood. They're all good in different ways. If you plan on coming back, you don't want to piss them off by asking for someone different. Plus, these girls work morning until night and need breaks between customers. I suppose regular customers might be able to get away with asking for a certain girl. One time, I did ask about making an appointment with one, but it kind of got "lost in translation" and I got the vibe it's not something that they like.
Newbie: So the girl that opened the door is the one I get?
Veteran: Most of the time. Once, one was finishing up lunch and another let me in. Another time all girls were busy, one let me in, put me in an empty room to wait, then another came and took me to her room. Just go with it. Remember my first answer. You're not that special.
Veteran: The girl may ask you right here at the door how long you want. Tell her and take a step to the left (toward the hall). She'll take you to a room. Once in the room, she'll close the door and ask if you want an hour or half-hour (if she didn't already). The difference is only $20 so I go for the hour. I've read that half hour appointments often run longer than that, but I just pay for the full hour. She'll take your money, tell you to get undressed (and lay down on the table), and leave for a couple minutes while you get undressed.
Newbie: This is a lot of money for a HJ. Is a tip even needed?
Veteran: It's not JUST for a HJ, there's the massage too. I asked if they get a cut of the rate. The answer was an eye-roll and a reply of "just a little". I'm assuming that the owner gets most of it and the girls basically just work for tips, but that's just my assumption.
Newbie: Do I give her the tip when I give her the rate so she knows I want more than just a massage?
Veteran: No. When I was a Newbie, I read a review where the guy (while getting undressed) left the tip on the little "desk" they have in the room so she would know what he expected when she returned. It seemed like a good idea and I did it a couple times, but I don't think it really mattered. I say hold off until after you're done and dressed – you never know what might happen. If you become a regular, it's a non-issue. You tip her afterwards and there's no doubt you want more.
Newbie: This is a nice room. Warm, kind of dark, relaxing music, nice solid table. A lot nicer than I expected.
Veteran: Yep. It surprised me too.
Newbie: So I just get naked while she's out.
Veteran: Yep. No pussing out now. Show a little class and put your shoes under the chair so nobody trips over them. Fold your clothes and put them on the chair or hang them on the hooks on the door. Either sit on the table facing the door or lie face down on the table with your face in the hole and your ass pointing up. I sit facing the door, look her in the eyes and smile as she walks back in. If she's new to me, I tell her my first name and ask for hers. If not, I may remind her of my name if she hasn't used it already. Don't be shy that you're naked; remember... You're just not that special.
Newbie: Do I tell her it's my first time here (or first ever massage)? I've read that I should say no – that it's not my first time here.
Veteran: When I was a Newbie, I read the same thing. I have a terrible poker face and didn't know if I could fake it. I admitted that it was my first massage ever, but lied and said that my friend comes here and told me about it. Read some recent reviews and drop a girl's name or two if she asks who he saw (I didn't have to). Does it matter? Not for me. It actually took a lot of the pressure off since I didn't have to fake it – and worry about her see that I was faking it. The girl was very patient with me and tried to show me the ropes. I even admitted it was my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th time so they knew I've been there before, but was still a Newbie. That seemed to work out good for me because they were extra helpful.
Newbie: I can barely understand her.
Veteran: Me neither. Hell, I can't understand British or Hillbilly accents either. But that's what so good about it, you can just relax and enjoy without talking or trying to "impress her". She may not understand you very much either. I think the default replies when she doesn't understand you are "Yes" and "Thank you" (kind of funny sometimes when those answers don't match the questions). Hand gestures and facial expressions seem to help me communicate. A soft, "Mmmmm" now and then is about all you need to say so she knows you're still awake and enjoying her efforts. Don't be a narcisstic jackass and speak / moan loudly. Others can hear and you'll be disturbing their tranquility.
Veteran: At some point before or shortly after starting, she may ask if you would like a shower. I always shower at home beforehand anyway. Sometimes they ask, sometimes I ask for one, sometimes I decline in favor of a longer massage. Some places have table showers. This place has a regular shower with hand sprayer. You sit in a chair for part and stand for part. It's great to have a girl suds up your groin and ass. I had it my first time but it was kind of overwhelming for my first time. It's up to you whether you ask for one, or accept if it's offered. If not, definitely ask for one next time.
Newbie: There are all these different types of massage. Swedish, Shiatsu, etc. What is best?
Veteran: I got to admit, I don't know. I just like being touched by her. I don't care what it's called. She'll ask what you want. If you admitted that you're new, say you don't know. Ask for different things so you can experiment. Or just say "Start with medium", and go up or down in pressure as you like. Just say "harder" or "(groan) too hard. Softer". Every guy's different, so it's best to let her know what you like rather than hope she can read your mind.
Newbie: She's standing by my head, massaging my shoulders. I think I'll just reach behind her and touch her ass.
Veteran: Don't. You'll be the first one to ever do that to her and she'll freak! Just kidding. Go ahead and feel those smooth pants over her ass and thighs. She'll move when she's ready. Remember. She's a human being, working 12+ hour days, doing "this". Be gentle, not a jerk.
Newbie: This is kind of nice, but when is the hand job? What do I do? Do I have to ask for it?
Veteran: Relax. You're not a 15 year old boy. Zone out and enjoy this. It's supposed to be relaxing. The hand job will come.
Newbie: Ha-ha. It tickles when she touches my ass.
Veteran: Give a little moan and try to spread your legs a bit more (remember to do this next time as soon as you lie down).
Newbie: (Trembling) She just touched my taint and tickled by balls. Awesome!
Veteran: Moan a little louder. Let her know you like it. She's trying to figure you out. Say her name. Raise your hips up off the table a bit. There you go, now she has a little more room.
Newbie: HJ, HJ, HJ!
Veteran: No, that's not the hand job. You just gave her some room to adjust your Johnson a little so you don't poke a hole in the table. Relax. You didn't blow your wad already, did you?
Newbie: Mmmm... What kind of massage is this? It's so, so soft. It's so, so slow. It's so, so soft. My back, my shoulders, my legs, my ass. Ohhh, so, so good.
Veteran: My favorite part.
Newbie: I almost nodded off. She just whispered something in my ear. I love when Chicks whisper in my ear. What? Turn over? OK, anything you say. I'm just putty in your hands.
Veteran: Get ready. Here's what you've been waiting for. Don't cum... Think of baseball like when you were a teenager.
Newbie: Mmmm. Just like my back. It's so, so soft. It's so, so slow. It's so, so soft. My chest, my stomach, my thighs. Ohhh, so, so good. (trembling) SHE TOUCHED IT. With those small, soft hands. She touched it again! Now she's stroking it, but "not really" stroking it. I've NEVER had a girl give me a HJ like this before. So different. So soft. So slow. Jack Morris, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker, Dan Petry..
Veteran: Ha – He used the same player's names that he used back in High School.
Newbie: My eyes are rolled back in my head. I got to open my eyes and check this out. She's making me feel so good. Her ass is right there within reach. I think I'll stoke her ass slowly and softly like she's doing to me.
Veteran: Go ahead. Use the same speed and firmness that you want her to use on you. If she doesn't like it, she'll move. If she doesn't realize that you want her to match what you're doing, tell her.
Newbie: Any titty action?
Veteran: Depends on the girl. If you can reach one, cup it with your hand over the shirt softly. If she pulls them out. Enjoy. If not, either stay there or go back to her ass. This is when being a regular has its perks. By this time, there's a good chance that your hands are paralyzed anyway and your eyes have rolled back in your head again. Maybe next time.
Newbie: Point of no return. Do I say anything?
Veteran: I do. All I say is a faint "cum", but she probably already can tell. At least she can't say I didn't warn her.
Newbie: (blacked out).
Veteran: She'll clean you up a bit and leave to wash her hands.
Newbie: (eyes starting to open; goofy looking grin).
Veteran: She'll take a warm towel and clean you up and give you a few minutes to become coherent. If there's time left, she'll continue the massage. Don't get up; she'll let you know when it's over. Maybe she'll offer to help you get dressed. You'll be groggy. Remember NOT to speak too loudly (No. OMG. THAT WAS GREAT. I LOVE YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU). When you're dressed make sure that you've thanked her and hand her the tip. She'll give you a little bottle of water and walk you out. If the other girls are up front, they'll smile and say "bye". Check them out if you can, you might get them next time. Out the door and on your way to your car. See. Nobody's paying any attention to you. The place didn't get raided. She didn't "kung fu" your ass and take your money.
Newbie: What was I afraid of?
Veteran: Exactly.
Newbie: That was awesome. I'm going back tomorrow.
Veteran: Easy tiger, you're not... "Tiger". Unless you win the lottery, pace yourself. This is pricey for you. Plus, going too often will make the experience less special. You've succeeded at 'Plan be', but don't forget about Plan A. Start keeping a record of the dates you've gone to the AMP and who you've seen. After a while it becomes a blur.
What ifs:
Q: What if after I roll over (the flip) she doesn't start the HJ.
A: Some places don't give hand jobs. Hasn't happened to me here. Give it a few minutes and enjoy your chest / stomach massage. I've read that she may be unsure if you want one (or unsure if you're a Cop). In that case she may touch your hand. Guide her hand to your dick, moan, and say "Yes. Tip" (meaning that you intend to tip her).
I hope this helped some Newbies with their anxiety about the unknown, and that you got a laugh out of it. My intension was to show it's not as "scary" as you think, and the rewards are worth it (at least once – so go for it).
This is a great report. (I'll say it, it's Acu on Tele near 7 Mile). I think for non-FS AMP, Acu is universally considered the most reliable and best. Here's your AMP Primer. YMMV with other places, but this is par for the course.
[QUOTE=MidLifeAlibi;1947304]My first AMP experience (kind of).
(This is my 2nd post and I'm not familiar with the editing here. I originally typed this up in Word 2007, but it didn't copy over as intended and some characters are translated differently. I hope it's formatted ok).
Here is my contribution for AMPs for Newbies. I don't know if I'm even qualified to post this since I've only been to ONE AMP (probably 20+ times over the last 14 months). From what I've read, the experience varies greatly based on the AMP, and what I've written only applies to this one place. I'm not going to name the location because I don't want it to sound like an ad for the place, but it probably won't be too difficult for some of you to figure out from the description.
The Newbie in this "longer than I anticipated story" is me, 14 months ago. Never seen an Escort (at that point). Never been in a massage parlor before. Deep in a midlife crisis. Don't know how many boners I've got left in life, but want to make them count. Scared and kind of a Pussy. The Newbie comments here are close to what I was thinking, my fears and anxieties. I wish I had a Veteran to answer my concerns. I had not yet found USA SG.
The Veteran (for lack of a better term) in this story is also me, returning from the future to help guide Newbie Me through my first time at an AMP. Veteran Me may poke fun at Newbie Me, not Newbies in general. These are my observations and viewpoints (which may be totally wrong), based on my experience at this ONE AMP.
Actually, Plan A was to get an Escort. I'm the type that has to research and analyze the hell out of everything. Getting "a clue" about Escorts was becoming a lot of work. What do you mean the pictures might be fakes? What, I need references? There are scams? Etc, etc, etc. Months go by.
OK – I've done nothing so far, time for 'Plan-be'. I see these Massage Parlors all over. I find a review site that lists local AMPs. It looks like there's a good one that I pass by everyday to work. I'll try one out, get a HJ, and see how it goes. It takes weeks to P.S.ych myself up.
Then one day:
Sleep in. Check;.
Shower. Check;.
Wallet and phone hidden in car trunk. Check;.
$80 door fee in one pocket. Check;.
$40 tip in another pocket. Check;.
$40 emergency cab fare hidden in sock. Check;.
Phone numbers of guys to bail me out of jail if the place gets raided. Check;.
Rubber (just in case). Check;.
Driving to the place. Check. Hey, I grew a pair! This is actually happening!
Newbie: The AMP is between a bank and some restaurants. Are people going to watch me? Laugh at me? Point at me?
Veteran: Sorry no. You're not that important. If it makes you feel better, walk with a limp and the one person who does notice you might think you're just getting a massage.
Newbie: Ok here I go. No turning back now. The outside glass door leads to a little vestibule. In the vestibule are house plants, a sign on the wall with the half-hour and hour rates, a solid door, and a doorbell.
Veteran: Don't you wish you had a set-up like this when you were a teenager to keep your parents out of your room? Ring the doorbell. On the other side you'll hear, "Hello" and in a couple seconds the solid door opens to a smiling Korean girl (I use the term "girl" for any female). Just say Hi and step inside. (If you're returning, say Hi. Her name. It's easier for you to remember her than her to remember you). Straight ahead is a little lounge with a TV and couch for the girls. There may or may not be other girls sitting there. To the left is a hallway with massage rooms and a shower.
Newbie: Hum... I was hoping that I'd be walking into a room full of 21 year old hotties pillow-fighting.
Veteran: Nope – You watch too much porn. They're not 21, but they're not bad, and you're going to have your eyes closed most of the time anyway.
Newbie: So, do I get to choose the girl?
Veteran: In my observation. No, but I've never asked. There are usually three girls working (when I've been there). The girls take turns. This is their livelihood. They're all good in different ways. If you plan on coming back, you don't want to piss them off by asking for someone different. Plus, these girls work morning until night and need breaks between customers. I suppose regular customers might be able to get away with asking for a certain girl. One time, I did ask about making an appointment with one, but it kind of got "lost in translation" and I got the vibe it's not something that they like.
Newbie: So the girl that opened the door is the one I get?
Veteran: Most of the time. Once, one was finishing up lunch and another let me in. Another time all girls were busy, one let me in, put me in an empty room to wait, then another came and took me to her room. Just go with it. Remember my first answer. You're not that special.
Veteran: The girl may ask you right here at the door how long you want. Tell her and take a step to the left (toward the hall). She'll take you to a room. Once in the room, she'll close the door and ask if you want an hour or half-hour (if she didn't already). The difference is only $20 so I go for the hour. I've read that half hour appointments often run longer than that, but I just pay for the full hour. She'll take your money, tell you to get undressed (and lay down on the table), and leave for a couple minutes while you get undressed.
Newbie: This is a lot of money for a HJ. Is a tip even needed?
Veteran: It's not JUST for a HJ, there's the massage too. I asked if they get a cut of the rate. The answer was an eye-roll and a reply of "just a little". I'm assuming that the owner gets most of it and the girls basically just work for tips, but that's just my assumption.
Newbie: Do I give her the tip when I give her the rate so she knows I want more than just a massage?
Veteran: No. When I was a Newbie, I read a review where the guy (while getting undressed) left the tip on the little "desk" they have in the room so she would know what he expected when she returned. It seemed like a good idea and I did it a couple times, but I don't think it really mattered. I say hold off until after you're done and dressed – you never know what might happen. If you become a regular, it's a non-issue. You tip her afterwards and there's no doubt you want more.
Newbie: This is a nice room. Warm, kind of dark, relaxing music, nice solid table. A lot nicer than I expected.
Veteran: Yep. It surprised me too.
Newbie: So I just get naked while she's out.
Veteran: Yep. No pussing out now. Show a little class and put your shoes under the chair so nobody trips over them. Fold your clothes and put them on the chair or hang them on the hooks on the door. Either sit on the table facing the door or lie face down on the table with your face in the hole and your ass pointing up. I sit facing the door, look her in the eyes and smile as she walks back in. If she's new to me, I tell her my first name and ask for hers. If not, I may remind her of my name if she hasn't used it already. Don't be shy that you're naked; remember... You're just not that special.
Newbie: Do I tell her it's my first time here (or first ever massage)? I've read that I should say no – that it's not my first time here.
Veteran: When I was a Newbie, I read the same thing. I have a terrible poker face and didn't know if I could fake it. I admitted that it was my first massage ever, but lied and said that my friend comes here and told me about it. Read some recent reviews and drop a girl's name or two if she asks who he saw (I didn't have to). Does it matter? Not for me. It actually took a lot of the pressure off since I didn't have to fake it – and worry about her see that I was faking it. The girl was very patient with me and tried to show me the ropes. I even admitted it was my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th time so they knew I've been there before, but was still a Newbie. That seemed to work out good for me because they were extra helpful.
Newbie: I can barely understand her.
Veteran: Me neither. Hell, I can't understand British or Hillbilly accents either. But that's what so good about it, you can just relax and enjoy without talking or trying to "impress her". She may not understand you very much either. I think the default replies when she doesn't understand you are "Yes" and "Thank you" (kind of funny sometimes when those answers don't match the questions). Hand gestures and facial expressions seem to help me communicate. A soft, "Mmmmm" now and then is about all you need to say so she knows you're still awake and enjoying her efforts. Don't be a narcisstic jackass and speak / moan loudly. Others can hear and you'll be disturbing their tranquility.
Veteran: At some point before or shortly after starting, she may ask if you would like a shower. I always shower at home beforehand anyway. Sometimes they ask, sometimes I ask for one, sometimes I decline in favor of a longer massage. Some places have table showers. This place has a regular shower with hand sprayer. You sit in a chair for part and stand for part. It's great to have a girl suds up your groin and ass. I had it my first time but it was kind of overwhelming for my first time. It's up to you whether you ask for one, or accept if it's offered. If not, definitely ask for one next time.
Newbie: There are all these different types of massage. Swedish, Shiatsu, etc. What is best?
Veteran: I got to admit, I don't know. I just like being touched by her. I don't care what it's called. She'll ask what you want. If you admitted that you're new, say you don't know. Ask for different things so you can experiment. Or just say "Start with medium", and go up or down in pressure as you like. Just say "harder" or "(groan) too hard. Softer". Every guy's different, so it's best to let her know what you like rather than hope she can read your mind.
Newbie: She's standing by my head, massaging my shoulders. I think I'll just reach behind her and touch her ass.
Veteran: Don't. You'll be the first one to ever do that to her and she'll freak! Just kidding. Go ahead and feel those smooth pants over her ass and thighs. She'll move when she's ready. Remember. She's a human being, working 12+ hour days, doing "this". Be gentle, not a jerk.
Newbie: This is kind of nice, but when is the hand job? What do I do? Do I have to ask for it?
Veteran: Relax. You're not a 15 year old boy. Zone out and enjoy this. It's supposed to be relaxing. The hand job will come.
Newbie: Ha-ha. It tickles when she touches my ass.
Veteran: Give a little moan and try to spread your legs a bit more (remember to do this next time as soon as you lie down).
Newbie: (Trembling) She just touched my taint and tickled by balls. Awesome!
Veteran: Moan a little louder. Let her know you like it. She's trying to figure you out. Say her name. Raise your hips up off the table a bit. There you go, now she has a little more room.
Newbie: HJ, HJ, HJ!
Veteran: No, that's not the hand job. You just gave her some room to adjust your Johnson a little so you don't poke a hole in the table. Relax. You didn't blow your wad already, did you?
Newbie: Mmmm... What kind of massage is this? It's so, so soft. It's so, so slow. It's so, so soft. My back, my shoulders, my legs, my ass. Ohhh, so, so good.
Veteran: My favorite part.
Newbie: I almost nodded off. She just whispered something in my ear. I love when Chicks whisper in my ear. What? Turn over? OK, anything you say. I'm just putty in your hands.
Veteran: Get ready. Here's what you've been waiting for. Don't cum... Think of baseball like when you were a teenager.
Newbie: Mmmm. Just like my back. It's so, so soft. It's so, so slow. It's so, so soft. My chest, my stomach, my thighs. Ohhh, so, so good. (trembling) SHE TOUCHED IT. With those small, soft hands. She touched it again! Now she's stroking it, but "not really" stroking it. I've NEVER had a girl give me a HJ like this before. So different. So soft. So slow. Jack Morris, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker, Dan Petry..
Veteran: Ha – He used the same player's names that he used back in High School.
Newbie: My eyes are rolled back in my head. I got to open my eyes and check this out. She's making me feel so good. Her ass is right there within reach. I think I'll stoke her ass slowly and softly like she's doing to me.
Veteran: Go ahead. Use the same speed and firmness that you want her to use on you. If she doesn't like it, she'll move. If she doesn't realize that you want her to match what you're doing, tell her.
Newbie: Any titty action?
Veteran: Depends on the girl. If you can reach one, cup it with your hand over the shirt softly. If she pulls them out. Enjoy. If not, either stay there or go back to her ass. This is when being a regular has its perks. By this time, there's a good chance that your hands are paralyzed anyway and your eyes have rolled back in your head again. Maybe next time.
Newbie: Point of no return. Do I say anything?
Veteran: I do. All I say is a faint "cum", but she probably already can tell. At least she can't say I didn't warn her.
Newbie: (blacked out).
Veteran: She'll clean you up a bit and leave to wash her hands.
Newbie: (eyes starting to open; goofy looking grin).
Veteran: She'll take a warm towel and clean you up and give you a few minutes to become coherent. If there's time left, she'll continue the massage. Don't get up; she'll let you know when it's over. Maybe she'll offer to help you get dressed. You'll be groggy. Remember NOT to speak too loudly (No. OMG. THAT WAS GREAT. I LOVE YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU). When you're dressed make sure that you've thanked her and hand her the tip. She'll give you a little bottle of water and walk you out. If the other girls are up front, they'll smile and say "bye". Check them out if you can, you might get them next time. Out the door and on your way to your car. See. Nobody's paying any attention to you. The place didn't get raided. She didn't "kung fu" your ass and take your money.
Newbie: What was I afraid of?
Veteran: Exactly.
Newbie: That was awesome. I'm going back tomorrow.
Veteran: Easy tiger, you're not... "Tiger". Unless you win the lottery, pace yourself. This is pricey for you. Plus, going too often will make the experience less special. You've succeeded at 'Plan be', but don't forget about Plan A. Start keeping a record of the dates you've gone to the AMP and who you've seen. After a while it becomes a blur.
What ifs:
Q: What if after I roll over (the flip) she doesn't start the HJ.
A: Some places don't give hand jobs. Hasn't happened to me here. Give it a few minutes and enjoy your chest / stomach massage. I've read that she may be unsure if you want one (or unsure if you're a Cop). In that case she may touch your hand. Guide her hand to your dick, moan, and say "Yes. Tip" (meaning that you intend to tip her).
I hope this helped some Newbies with their anxiety about the unknown, and that you got a laugh out of it. My intension was to show it's not as "scary" as you think, and the rewards are worth it (at least once – so go for it).[/QUOTE]
Had planned a trip over to wayne road to try out yoko but somehow found myself downriver so I made my way into earthtone on fort st I guess its riverview, they always do a good actual massage an a cheap HJ usually .20 tip gets it done I'm pretty sure more is to be had but she wasnt much of a looker so I didn't ask, she sId its been real slow there so as far as getting cheap extras I'd say the balls in our court here. There were just glad to have a customer. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Wingman8490;1946315]I have received PMs after my first post. That was great. My question is to senior members. I got PMs from users with zero posts and low (under 5) users asking for info.
I am reluctant to reply. Let me know, and other first timers, what your thoughts are on this.
WM.[/QUOTE]I tend to look at quality over quantity! Ex. If someone has 50 posts and 10 are reviews of the M1 and the other 40 are A asking for Intel B reviews of places that closed 10-15 years ago C after the fact posts (Ex. You post a review saying I went to Asian massage and got a good massage and no he and they respond to your post saying yeah I go all the time they don't do he) but never posted a review D post false or misleading info I generally don't respond. However, if a person has only 10 posts and they are all good accurate reviews of multiple providers I will happily send them the intel they ask for! There are a few members I PM back and forth Intel not posted in the forum because I see them as regular posters who post good intel. If I get a PM from someone I don't know I usually read at least half of their post prior to deciding whether I should respond or not by clicking on their name and then clicking and then clicking on view forum posts!
[QUOTE=HereIam2;1946339][URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/faith-in-massage-call-or-text-faith-586-436-0167-60-hour-mon-thurs-1230-600-offers-manscaping/12363522[/URL]
I am Ok with the legit massage, but hate it when these gals post like this and act like WE are the ones with the problem! What the hell so you think us guys are going to think? But hey, I TOFTT (actually 2) and a no go!
Basically, OK massage, attractive, works in a nice clean local, in her basement, however would never repeat because I feel that her ad (pics) are just a bait and switch, and I have a hard time respecting that. But a normal gal, clean and if you're looking for an ok massage at a thrift store rate, I'd say go for it!
Safe Hunting.
H2.[/QUOTE]Her ad says;"This is a 100% therapeutic NON SEXUAL! Massage" She kinda was honest about that I guess.
[QUOTE=Ropeshark07;1947702]This is a great report. (I'll say it, it's Acu on Tele near 7 Mile). I think for non-FS AMP, Acu is universally considered the most reliable and best. Here's your AMP Primer. YMMV with other places, but this is par for the course.[/QUOTE]I've been to both Acu and Wyandotte Wellness and can say that they are equally as good. However, I give Wyandotte Wellness the edge on the HE delivered and the friendliness of the service providers.
[QUOTE=Ropeshark07;1947702]This is a great report. (I'll say it, it's Acu on Tele near 7 Mile). I think for non-FS AMP, Acu is universally considered the most reliable and best. Here's your AMP Primer. YMMV with other places, but this is par for the course.[/QUOTE]Yeah awesome post. How is the massage in this place?
[QUOTE=Backpage;1948101]Her ad says;"This is a 100% therapeutic NON SEXUAL! Massage" She kinda was honest about that I guess.[/QUOTE]I agree, but then they should not post pics that may suggest different. If you are a licensed CMT then why post over 6 poses of yourself with cleavage, and sexy outfits then? If all you're selling is "Therapeutic massage" then? The advertise manscaping, no draping etc. I do not feel she has the right the complain. She knows what she is doing, and that is getting us there to shoot us down, take our $ and then say "it's your fault". What I am saying is that these gals need to stop with that! If you are posting pics that are seductive, listing draping optional, and something along the lines of of leaving happy, then adding therapeutic only could, in my mind just be LEO deterrent, and I am going to at least try. The fact is that these gals know this, they know we are going to try, because their adds are sending mix signals. For Example: May say Therapeutic only, but has draping optional, with many seductive pics. So IMHO, when we get there, and ask, or suggest for more, the well; they had it coming based on the way they advertised. That's all I am saying about this one and many others! Prime Example is Lake Orion Lisa. Bait us in to say "nope, get out" But one thing I can say about Faith is that her massage is WAY better, and so is her attitude, and you don't get the "sensual massage" is a mortal sin lecture.
[QUOTE=Rianrav;1948387]Yeah awesome post. How is the massage in this place?[/QUOTE]It really depends on what girl you get. I have been going to Acu for a while and some girls can provide an amazing deep tissue, back walking massage that really works the knots out, others more of a body rub.
Lately I have been seeing Meena or Mina, not sure how to spell it, and she gives a decent AMP massage with lots of teasing mixed in. She did do some back walking last time I was there and it was okay.
But I think this place is in the above average category for the actual massage portion of the visit!
[QUOTE=Turrismaldon;1946868]I'm not sure if the Cat being talked about here is the same Kat who has services close to the st Joe's hospital? If someone be nice to attach an ad thanks.[/QUOTE]Is this the Kat in the Novi Wixom area? I have not seen her post an ad in a while! Anyone have a new one?
[QUOTE=GrosseGraine;1948171]I've been to both Acu and Wyandotte Wellness and can say that they are equally as good. However, I give Wyandotte Wellness the edge on the HE delivered and the friendliness of the service providers.[/QUOTE]I like the ACU as well but the new place I like going to now is Van Dyke Spa. This place will cover you up but I kind of like it be / see it's kind of cold in there but once they warm you up the cover comes off.
[QUOTE=GrosseGraine;1915826]I have been a regular client since February having been massaged by all the ladies except Grace (for obvious reasons, I think she's 60+ They are consistent. They all give HE with varying skill levels. The most liberal is Ceecee. The least favorite is Cindy who is very reserved.
Cindy provides a great massage complete with HJ (early in the session) on the flip, but will not show her breasts or let you roam.
Mina loves to tease and has huge breast which she will let you TF on the flip. Her hand job is mechanical. I did discover that she is shaved.
Lisa has the best HJ by far. She will feather you with her finger tips while you fondle a surprisingly large set of boobs for such a small lady.
Ceecee as I said is the most liberal. Great massage and welcomes roaming especially in the crotch and thigh areas. On the flip she will lift her top, drop her yoga pants and panties and lay down next to you on the table. She will ride you CG but warns not to penetrate. She hides her orgasm well. HJ is mechanical unless you coach her through it.
Five star rating: Ceecee 4 stars, Lisa 3.5 stars, Mina 3 stars and Cindy 2 stars.
Why do they post pictures of girls who could pass for their daughters?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrennHoffman;1948523]It really depends on what girl you get. I have been going to Acu for a while and some girls can provide an amazing deep tissue, back walking massage that really works the knots out, others more of a body rub.
Lately I have been seeing Meena or Mina, not sure how to spell it, and she gives a decent AMP massage with lots of teasing mixed in. She did do some back walking last time I was there and it was okay.
But I think this place is in the above average category for the actual massage portion of the visit![/QUOTE]Funny you should mention her. I went and saw her last night and I was glad I did. I usuall see Lisa but she wasn't available. Mina is a little heavy but her playfullness and big cans make up for being thick in the middle. We played around in the shower (chair, not table) beforehand. She cleaned every inch and then some. She gave a decent massage with some back walking as well. On the flip she popped her top to let those big girls out and it was a good HE. What I liked most is that she didn't let go of junior right away after the release like most girls do. She stayed with him until he calmed down which was very refreshing, allowing me to come down off the sensation slowly and enjoy it. That puts her high on my list now.
She cleaned up and proceeded with more massage with me still laying on my back. Again, a non-rushed service which was very refreshing.
There is a good report of the different girls that work here that was posted on 10/31/2013. Potential clients should read that post.
Damage was $.80 door fee for the hour and I gave a $.40 tip since it was such a good HE with an unrushed experience. A bit pricey in my book but I really appreciated the playfull, unrushed service from Mina.
Anybody ever check this one out [URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensationall-winter-wonderland-massage-by-fireplace-5500hr/11836686?[/URL].
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Malaklypse;1948708]Anybody ever check this one out [URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensationall-winter-wonderland-massage-by-fireplace-5500hr/11836686?[/URL].
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You people really need to read the forum. Try posts 3499,3645, 3653,3675, 3658 for starters. I'm sure their are more you just need to look, you can find something about every provider in the forum. On another note you can do better than Regina, not worth the drama.
[QUOTE=Malaklypse;1948708]Anybody ever check this one out [URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensationall-winter-wonderland-massage-by-fireplace-5500hr/11836686?[/URL].
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Avoid this chick. Mediocre massage applies way too much pressure, talks non-stop, she will drill you about who else you have seen, has moved locations about 4 5 times in a short amount of time (red flag). She is 40 yrs old drops the top but I was not impressed. Three words that sums her up bat-shit-crazy. Too expensive. There is MUCH better out there. She needs to get out of the business it is obvious she hates men, this business has jaded her to the point is is crazy. RUN!
[QUOTE=Malaklypse;1948708]Anybody ever check this one out [URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensationall-winter-wonderland-massage-by-fireplace-5500hr/11836686?[/URL].
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Conoman1963;1948752]You people really need to read the forum. Try posts 3499,3645, 3653,3675, 3658 for starters. I'm sure their are more you just need to look, you can find something about every provider in the forum. On another note you can do better than Regina, not worth the drama.[/QUOTE]She's an odd one. I went once and won't go back. It was a decent massage but no happy ending. At least not for me. I've read that others have and others haven't received HE with her. Maybe it's better on the 2rd, 3rd, etc time but I'm not going to keep trying. As stated above, there is a lot of info on her so that you can make your own informed decision.
I see she's got a decent December special price so it wouldn't be too big of a loss but again, read up on her. Do searches for "regina", "livonia", etc.
[QUOTE=BrennHoffman;1948525]Is this the Kat in the Novi Wixom area? I have not seen her post an ad in a while! Anyone have a new one?[/QUOTE]She got busted so she stopped posting. I think she goe's to court this week. She has moved to another location since the bust. I heard also JO JO got busted also but got probation and is very cautious know. So should we. Be safe.
[QUOTE=BrennHoffman;1948525]Is this the Kat in the Novi Wixom area? I have not seen her post an ad in a while! Anyone have a new one?[/QUOTE]Haven't posted in awhile. Kat had a visit by uncle LEO. Neighbors complained and the boys came by to warn her once. They said next time she would be arrested. Used to see her regular but she is taking this as a onetime pass and stopped working. BTW she said they had sent cops to see her at least they told her that.
[QUOTE=Rianrav;1948387]Yeah awesome post. How is the massage in this place?[/QUOTE]In addition to the girl that you get, I think it depends on your personal preference of massage type. Some guys like it rough, some gentle, and some in-between. I've also found that the same girl might give me "different" massages or HE from one time to the next, not just better or worse, but somehow different. Personally, I prefer gentle to medium, and I'll let her know if I want her to change what she's doing.
A couple funny stories about trying to tell her what I want / like:
Got a new girl, and I was trying to explain that I love the soft, slow, fingertip thing at the end, and that I wanted her to save some EXTRA time at the end for it. It got lost in translation and she did damn near the whole massage that way. I was in heaven, but someone who wanted to be "worked over" would have been disappointed.
Another time I got a girl that I had seen only once (6-7 months before), and I did the same thing and tried to tell her to make sure to save some extra time at the end for it. Once again it got lost in translation and she STARTED the massage that way. I liked it so I "went with it". Then she whispered to turn over. (Uhh, well, OK). After a few minutes of chest, stomach, and thigh tickling the HE began. It was kind of hard to say, "Hey, wait a minute", so I just enjoyed it right though completion. But it wasn't "the ending". She cleaned me up and started the regular massage.
Backwards, but an interesting concept. During a "normal" massage, I'm still a little excited / anxious about what's to come, and don't fully relax. This time, I was happy and TOTALLY relaxed, so the regular massage was... Different... Better than usual I think. This only happened one time, but I think that I'm going to "pick my time" and ask for this "backwards" massage again.
[QUOTE=Backpage;1948101]Her ad says;"This is a 100% therapeutic NON SEXUAL! Massage" She kinda was honest about that I guess.[/QUOTE]Right ... If they are 100% legit massage, then I don't think they should even post a pic. Because honestly, if you only care about a massage, the who gives a crap what she looks like. In fact, a dude is fine in my book if all I'm getting is a kick ass massage. But when I want an "experience", I want to see the "goods".
I wonder if anyone has experience with this one:
[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pretty-lily-asian-36-36/14486520[/URL]
Advertises as 'Pretty Lily' for message. No pic to research. Phone number google search indicates she moves around a lot. A few of the independent apartment massages I've had were awesome, but it's even more hit or miss than regular AMP, so wondering if anyone has any intel?
I did a full report on this one some time back. Different girl, short hair, thinner, a bit prettier. She was real friendly and fun to talk to. She gave a decent teasing massage (not a real message) with nice HJ, but that was all. (Said she didn't do body slides or anything more involved despite the fact that her add has all that. Of course, her add has a pic that isn't her). I'm starting to wonder if I got a sub? Has anyone actually seen the girl in this pic?
[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/BodyRubs/i-want-to-touch-u-with-every-part-of-my-body-lovely-cassii-special-23/11887593[/URL]
Another curious thing is that while she answers her phone most of the time (and I've called a lot) she always says she's not working that night. (I tend to call on Sat or Sun, and I think she might just work Thur-Fri. She advertises weekly around this time. To get cash for weekend?) I'd actually be interesting in seeing her quite a bit more if I could work the schedule right and curious what info is out there.
This is, in my opinion, the ideal AMP. Located in a small plaza away from traffic yet very safe and open with plenty of parking. Many good bars and restaurants nearby. Typical two door entrance where you're not seen from outside. This is where you want to come if you are looking for your first AMP experience. Clean spacious rooms and friendly attentive staff.
First visit, I was greeted by Yoko who lead me to the room after squeezing my nipples. She was very attractive, wearing a short sundress that revealed her long smooth thighs. I was told to undress after paying the .7 hourly fee and lay down, uncovered, on the table. She is an expert masseuse working every muscle with appropriate pressure. Light walking from the thighs to the shoulders. Unscented lotion used in the process is wiped off with a hot towel. She did not allow roaming while she was working. I was told it was disrespectful and could lead to refusal of service in the future. "Fun takes place when I'm done my job" she said. Depends on tip promised on completion.
She did not disappoint. Off came the dress and everything else. Jumped on top of me and began a slow methodical HE. FS is not an option. However, mutual climax seems to be her goal as she allows everything else.
Great experience and was treated to the same from the other service providers at this "SPA".
[QUOTE=StreetLegal;1949082] In fact, a dude is fine in my book if all I'm getting is a kick ass massage. .[/QUOTE]Its Never, Ever Fine.
Skipped.
[QUOTE=GrosseGraine;1949902]This is, in my opinion, the ideal AMP. Located in a small plaza away from traffic yet very safe and open with plenty of parking. Many good bars and restaurants nearby. Typical two door entrance where you're not seen from outside. This is where you want to come if you are looking for your first AMP experience. Clean spacious rooms and friendly attentive staff.
First visit, I was greeted by Yoko who lead me to the room after squeezing my nipples. She was very attractive, wearing a short sundress that revealed her long smooth thighs. I was told to undress after paying the .7 hourly fee and lay down, uncovered, on the table. She is an expert masseuse working every muscle with appropriate pressure. Light walking from the thighs to the shoulders. Unscented lotion used in the process is wiped off with a hot towel. She did not allow roaming while she was working. I was told it was disrespectful and could lead to refusal of service in the future. "Fun takes place when I'm done my job" she said. Depends on tip promised on completion.
She did not disappoint. Off came the dress and everything else. Jumped on top of me and began a slow methodical HE. FS is not an option. However, mutual climax seems to be her goal as she allows everything else.
Great experience and was treated to the same from the other service providers at this "SPA".[/QUOTE]"Everything else" as in what? FIV, DATY? Please describe. And what sort of tip was required? Thanks.
[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-let-kim-rock-your-world-26/11900871[/URL]
Any info on this lady?