Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Hottub]If they go by reputation, then clearly we have a lot of work to do.

Lillys is full of ugly old women. At One Spa, they must install the girl's panties with an arc welder. Fact is, all sex workers are nagging ball-busters with terrible attitudes. The fat saggy Asians are the worst of the worst.
[/QUOTE]

Nah dude, you got it all wrong:

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Old Blond.
Location: Smith Hill, Providence
I've got the pu**y, I make the rules.
NO calls from taxpayers accepted.
Voting public ignored.
Intelligent, progressive minds will be asked to leave immediately.
Blind lemmings welcome.

It seems to me that the "reputation" thing seems to be the big sticking point.
I say this because the law seems to differ in this respect from , lets say MA.

Ok , so we have a Spa with a reputation, that unfortunately we helped create.

Lets also say that this spa is One Spa. Now One Spa has a quite illustrious reputation but unfortunately ceases operations due to the unfortunate events.

But a funny thing happens; a new, fresh , reputation free spa opens as Spa B and Spa B requires some form of "membership" to help maintain its stellar reputation. Oh, and the board comes up with a new way to exchange info to protect the virginal, reputation free therapists.

Sorry. Just some rambling, random thougts.

pwh

[QUOTE=Newday53]That reputation bit is the stickler. I still say a good lawyer could fight this as hearsay but at what cost to the defendant? I know the authors of that URI "thesis" and other lists for that matter insist places have a "reputation" so I'm sure that's keeping most of us away but where are the actual facts. Previous busts, arrest records, hidden surveillance, marked bills, etc. To support these "reputations"? Hell, we could start writing here about "fun" at legit massage places and GIVE them a reputation. Now what. Do they close down the entire massage industry in Rhode Island?

And, BA, you are right. The cops will say anything. Learned that the hard way a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (different hobby but still a personal freedom issue). And with all the hoopla and arrest report requirements with the new law, they'll make it stick.

Guilty until proven innocent. Man this pisses me off. Our forefathers must be rolling in their graves, alone of course, as we all know about the reputations cemeteries have.

P. S. My apologies to the group for the rant. I will post all further discussion on the General Topics forum where it probably belongs. Saw Flatspd's latest post and his is more appropriate to this forum than mine. Good work, Flatspd. Parking in Lily's, man they've got balls! [/QUOTE]Responding further to the point.

Reputation evidence will not be a major factor in police action now or for the immediate future. Anything that happened before the law was signed was not illegal. Therefore, any person engaged as either a worker or a client has a reputation as a law abiding citizen.

Police do not want to do more work than they have to, but must, and will respond to complaints. A call comes in with some complaint, the police must investigate. If the police establish that prostitution has occurred in some place after the law was signed, then reputation evidence may become more relevant for issuing warrants

The police will be getting complaints from neighbors, and agitators like the good professor for the next couple of weeks, then things will quiet down.

The watchword is going to have to be discretion. The days of display ads in the phoenix with coupons are over, but this law, like every effort to shut down sex work cannot wipe it out, only drive it under ground.

The only reputations that will be important is yours. If you're arrested, then, there is no way you can protect your reputation. Be careful.

[QUOTE=Pw Herman]It seems to me that the "reputation" thing seems to be the big sticking point.
I say this because the law seems to differ in this respect from , lets say MA.

Ok , so we have a Spa with a reputation, that unfortunately we helped create.

Lets also say that this spa is One Spa. Now One Spa has a quite illustrious reputation but unfortunately ceases operations due to the unfortunate events.

But a funny thing happens; a new, fresh , reputation free spa opens as Spa B and Spa B requires some form of "membership" to help maintain its stellar reputation. Oh, and the board comes up with a new way to exchange info to protect the virginal, reputation free therapists.

Sorry. Just some rambling, random thougts.

pwh[/QUOTE]

There isn't a directory in the State House that lists all establishments with a "reputation", and if there was just who determined that the place had a "reputation"? How about if the wife of the governor slept around and everyone knew it? Would that mean she'd have a "reputation" and be subject to being raided?

Where I come from, just about any business containing the word "spa" is considered to have a reputation.

To me this is just a ridiculous term to allow those who want to close down a business to do so with impunity.

Are you guys really that gullible to think that LE would not touch a providers breast or beautiful tulip to entrap them, it is a wonder that AMP fees have not hit $500 because it would appear that you guys will believe anything you are told. LE will use any means necessary to entrap these girls and the courts will believe them.


[QUOTE=Boston Ampfan]there's gotta be an answer! Suppose, for example, that Mama went into the room with the provider and the customer....and after customer got settled, provider stood back and asked, "Do you think I'm pretty?" And instead of answering, in-the-know customer would reach out toward provider's breasts and gently touch them. Girl would immediately know customer's interest...and she would know that customer was not LE. Customers who were LE or otherwise clueless would not know what to do....or would be (presumably) prohibited from touching her first. This way, both Mama and girl would witness what transpired.[/QUOTE]

Your are on a good line of thought there but there can't be any sharing of info anywhere because each and everyone of us could be playing for the other team. It is just that before the other team was allowed to do the same thing we were so it was okay for them to do so on a legal basis. It is only now that we can go to jail and LE can loose (oh wait LE can still have their fun at the AMPS it will just be that we get busted for being in the next room after they bust a nut. I guess the answer is that we all join the police academy.

[QUOTE=Pw Herman]It seems to me that the "reputation" thing seems to be the big sticking point.
I say this because the law seems to differ in this respect from , lets say MA.

Ok , so we have a Spa with a reputation, that unfortunately we helped create.

Lets also say that this spa is One Spa. Now One Spa has a quite illustrious reputation but unfortunately ceases operations due to the unfortunate events.

But a funny thing happens; a new, fresh , reputation free spa opens as Spa B and Spa B requires some form of "membership" to help maintain its stellar reputation. Oh, and the board comes up with a new way to exchange info to protect the virginal, reputation free therapists.

Sorry. Just some rambling, random thougts.

pwh[/QUOTE]

Unfortunatly, there was a list that was circulating around the state house that had every AMP listed with the services provided and the pricing. And guess who provided all of the research for them, thats right we all did, of course I provided them with a way to save money while doing the research so I did my part to slash the state budget by showing them how to save money on the General Assembly's slush fund that we all paid for.


[QUOTE=Bubba261]There isn't a directory in the State House that lists all establishments with a "reputation", and if there was just who determined that the place had a "reputation"? How about if the wife of the governor slept around and everyone knew it? Would that mean she'd have a "reputation" and be subject to being raided?

Where I come from, just about any business containing the word "spa" is considered to have a reputation.

To me this is just a ridiculous term to allow those who want to close down a business to do so with impunity.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jackzonian26]Ok, I'm going to start a private club where your first drink at the bar costs you $150.00 And I guarantee that you will get lucky with the hot asian chick sitting on the bar stool next to you. So where's the problem here?

J[/QUOTE]
If you can guarantee that the guy who buys the $150 drink will get lucky, then you must be paying the women, so it's prostitution.

Now, are you saying I'm naive and gullible to think that LE protocol would prevent them from reaching out to touch a firm, young breast with just the hint of a pointed, swelling nipple showing through the skimpy top of a bikini...perhaps even giving the lovely nip a little squeeze? Maybe, just maybe, I'll need to clear my head a little by visiting my favorite AMP today! I am missing that little beautiful tulip....

OK, so maybe my idea won't fly...


[QUOTE=Ri Designer]Are you guys really that gullible to think that LE would not touch a providers breast or beautiful tulip to entrap them, it is a wonder that AMP fees have not hit $500 because it would appear that you guys will believe anything you are told. LE will use any means necessary to entrap these girls and the courts will believe them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bigrig28]Police do not want to do more work than they have to, but must, and will respond to complaints. [/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, there is a kind of quota system tied to the new law:
[QUOTE]11-34.1-13. Reporting. -- On or before January 15, 2010, and semi-annually thereafter, each law enforcement agency in this state shall file with the Governor, the Attorney General, the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate a report concerning the
agency's enforcement of this chapter during the preceding six (6) month period. Each semi-annual report shall contain, but need not be limited to, the following information:
(1) The number of persons arrested pursuant to subsection 11-34.1-2(a), subsection 11-34.1-2(b), section 11-34.1-3, section 11-34.1-4, subsection 11-34.1-6(a), subsection 11-34.1-6(b),
and subsection 11-34.1-7 of this chapter;
(2) Of those arrested, the number of persons convicted, placed on probation, whose case is filed pursuant to section 12-10-12, whether those persons pled guilty or nolo contendere or were found guilty after trial by judge or jury;
(3) The fines and/or sentences of those persons identified pursuant to subdivision (2) of this section; and
(4) A summary of the amounts of fines levied and the lengths of sentences identified pursuant to subdivision (3) of this section.[/QUOTE]
So while the police may not want or need more work who is to say the blond and her lemmings won't do exactly what Flatspd did the other day and complain to the police that she is not seeing results? Although, as we see from Flatspd's report, there already seems to be a few casualties.

hi all - I realize that this belongs somewhere else but I didn't want anyone to miss it. With the state of RI fun in the dumper this describes what any one of us will be pleading for when we're done. I also can't take credit for finding it as it was found and posted by Crimsonlass on another forum. Enjoy all...better days are hopefully coming!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzb35Pj460U[/url]

[QUOTE=Savior Faire]If you can guarantee that the guy who buys the $150 drink will get lucky, then you must be paying the women, so it's prostitution.[/QUOTE]

Have the girls doing the serving and give a big tip. After they get off work.....short shifts and are on their own time then you hook up..get a drink and go back to their (or your) place for a romp. There has to be a way.....

You might want to check the Springfield board, there was a simultaneous raid and shutdown of 8 AMPs in the area, which I think offered only HJ.

A quick look at RI crime stats shows a spike from 2004 to 2005: violent crimes (murder, rape, robbery, agg assault) went up from around 1600 to 2600. That is where it has stayed more or less, since then. 2007 had appx 2500.

Clearly things are perfectly fine and hunky-dory in RI and cops need more to do. Obviously all the rapes and killings and shootings at the amps need their attention more than the drug dealing gang members and their associated violent crimes. They've got that part under control. It's those pesky amps need screwing with. See ya in jail... jxx



[url]http://www.prsearch.com/crime/rhode_island/[/url]

[QUOTE=Wm Costigian]You might want to check the Springfield board, there was a simultaneous raid and shutdown of 8 AMPs in the area, which I think offered only HJ.[/QUOTE]
From CNN news (the past few months):
Four police officers, suspect shot in New Jersey raid
Police: Man shoots 4 family members, then himself
Woman, two kids shot dead in New Orleans suburb
At least 4 die in gym shooting near Pittsburgh

Yesterday:
43 of our fighting troops shot - 13 dead

Today:
6 people shot a couple of hours ago in Orlando - 1 dead
Man dies after he's found shot on Providence street
Governor vetoes R.I. saltwater fishing license (he's so busy)
Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83

and these a**holes have nothing better to do than bust a few AMPS and deport a few immigrants who you just know were threatening to take over America.

The lunatics are running the asylum.

There are pro-sex feminist. I "Donna Hughes" spend the little time I have when I am not going after spas, going after them. You must have heard about the pro-sex feminist I attacked in Pawtucket.

[url]http://thephoenix.com/Providence/News/90630-Hot-controversy-over-sexuality-center-in-Pawtucket/[/url]

[url]http://www.projo.com/news/content/ACLU_SEX_HEALTH_CENTER_11-05-09_UVGBDV4_v21.36f34b0.html[/url]

I know we're all disappointed and pissed, but enough with the politics and fantasies about sex clubs. Let's get back to why we're here: getting nonsexual body rubs from semi-trained young women.

One of the spas heavily reviewed on here was open at least as of Thursday. Drew "Julie" (I think). Tall, thin, cute face. TS was mediocre: used the sprayer instead of the bucket. The massage (oops, body rub) was OK by usual standards. Everything else, including quality of customer service and tip was as we have come to expect from this place.

Hoped to talk to Angie to see what management was thinking about future business, but on the way out there was only the older stricter mama was there, and she only said "don't worry! don't worry!".

Hi Donna! Hi Desiree! Congratulations!

[QUOTE=Tommy Anonymus]I know we're all disappointed and pissed, but enough with the politics and fantasies about sex clubs. Let's get back to why we're here: getting nonsexual body rubs from semi-trained young women.

One of the spas heavily reviewed on here was open at least as of Thursday. Drew "Julie" (I think). Tall, thin, cute face. TS was mediocre: used the sprayer instead of the bucket. The massage (oops, body rub) was OK by usual standards. Everything else, including quality of customer service and tip was as we have come to expect from this place.

Hoped to talk to Angie to see what management was thinking about future business, but on the way out there was only the older stricter mama was there, and she only said "don't worry! don't worry!".

Hi Donna! Hi Desiree! Congratulations![/QUOTE]Tommy's living up to his name. Could be anywhere from coast to coast. I love useful information.

[QUOTE=RickyRicardo]I just gave up looking for some recent reviews because this board is flooded with bullshit. Get over your stupid law. There are always going to be places to go.

RR[/QUOTE]Come on man,

Lots of folks here have been knocked out of there comfort zone ."Now it really counts if you get caught"

This aint some redneck speed trap.

Don't throw stones in our glass house.

Not trying to stir up any trouble.

Lots of us are pretty down this week.

my tone of voice is like Coach Billick in a coors lite commercial w coach ditka

Donna Hughs you got what you wanted.Now you can stop posting we are not intrested in you anymore.Get a life.

[QUOTE=RickyRicardo]I just gave up looking for some recent reviews because this board is flooded with bullshit. Get over your stupid law. There are always going to be places to go.

RR[/QUOTE]

Please see reply in Rhode Island General Topics General Reports (I think that's where it belongs - let me know if I'm wrong).

The law for 24hr gambling is passed almost at the same time as the banning of indoor sex. I am wondering which one erode morality more than the other?

Why they treat them so differently?

[QUOTE=Bh USA]Donna Hughs you got what you wanted.Now you can stop posting we are not intrested in you anymore.Get a life.[/QUOTE]

Please tell me/us this was (somehow) meant to be humorous?!?
My take is 'she' adds color to a gray area in dire need of a little 'cheer'.
And, I am interested in anything that f*cking hypocrite does/says; fuel to the fire kind of thing.
So please keep telling on 'yourself', Donna.


(one seriously pissed-off <but quietly biding my time/effort> monger)
J

[QUOTE=Bigboy22]The law for 24hr gambling is passed almost at the same time as the banning of indoor sex. I am wondering which one erode morality more than the other?

Why they treat them so differently?[/QUOTE]

Hookers don't pay taxes. People who are inherently bad at math, do.

[QUOTE=Bigboy22]The law for 24hr gambling is passed almost at the same time as the banning of indoor sex. I am wondering which one erode morality more than the other?

Why they treat them so differently?[/QUOTE]

What really bugs me is that the Lincoln track was a racetrack (dogs and simulcast horses) that was permitted to intall slot machines too. Then they started the huge (and overdone, as we now see) expansion most likely with the underlying objective of driving out the dog and horse gamblers. The shoved all the betting machines and tellers into small, hard to access areas of the building and basically discouraged any gambling other than the slot machines. Then, when the racing gamblers finally gave up, the "management" whined that the racing part of their business was losing too much money! No shit - you make it uncomfortable and inconvenient to do something of course your business is going to decline.

So now, there's 24 hour gambling and no obligation on the part of the place to offer live racing any more (and of course they'll phase out their simulcasting eventually, too)

But, the state wants to put all the spas out of business and encourage mindless slot machine gambling. Has anyone ever heard of a single incident at or in the vicinity of one of the AMPs? NO! Has anyone ever heard of anyone sticking up a liquor store or convenience store to raise enough to get a one-hour session at an AMP? NO! Has anyone ever hocked his jewelry or gone into debt to support an AMP habit? NO!

But you see all of these things with slot machine addicts - sleazy, scary people hanging out in the parking lots at Lincoln, robberies of all kinds to support gambling habits, and the used gold and pawn shops in the vicinity of casinos (mostly CT for now, but they will appear around Lincoln and Newport too) are thriving.

To me, the priorities of the RI legislature and governor are screwed up. The governor is giving the state away to the two casino operators while they do to the general population what one can't do legally at an AMP in RI any more - they're fucking them!!!

[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]Tommy's living up to his name. Could be anywhere from coast to coast. I love useful information.[/QUOTE]

OK maybe I was a little TOO cryptic! I mostly just wanted to post a review and let the board know that life is going on. If the spas have to close for legal reasons, then they will, but we don't have to let them close for lack of business!

I also wanted to give some info without providing a road map to our friends who use this board to target our providers. I think we will have to be a little more subtle from now on. No more penthouse forum type reviews, more PM's.

It's not like in MA where the local PD more than likely knows about the local HJ providers, but don't bother because it's not on anybody's radar. Right now there is too much heat for the RI spas, and I'd rather not paint LE a picture of where to go and who to ask for what (or give Donna and Desiree a list of places to "report").

So if I'm too vague, PM me.

TA

[QUOTE=Bubba261]

To me, the priorities of the RI legislature and governor are screwed up. The governor is giving the state away to the two casino operators while they do to the general population what one can't do legally at an AMP in RI any more - they're fucking them!!![/QUOTE]

Lincoln will be a full blown casino shortly, mark my words. Or better yet bet on it.

Some of those that were so against the indians getting a casino have interests in the Ct ones and will now end up with 6 figure, do nothing jobs at Lincoln along with the politicians. Bet on that too.

[QUOTE=Postman]I go to a long established spa in the city of Providence. My session goes like this: I arrive, mama san takes me to a room, I give her $60, she leaves and I get undressed. A young Korean girl comes in takes me for a nice table shower, followed by sauna, and then a quality massage for 30-40 minutes. Then after the flip she gives me a hand release/happy ending. I never asked for it, no price was ever negotiated. After I'm cleaned up and dressed, I tip her $40, maybe $60. Have I broken a law? Has she? Is there a lawyer in the house? Just wondering.[/QUOTE]Hi Postman,

Yes and yes. You don't need a degree to read the law. Read the new law, The new law has everything covered. If you even comb her hair its considered touching to arouse.

Excuse my spelling.

Rick

instead of General Topics so I'll offer this that I found in a verified AP article:
[QUOTE]Few police departments said they were ready to launch mass raids against the spas, but Pawtucket police Maj. Arthur Martins said his department will investigate at least four suspected brothels operating in his city. School children cross in front of one of them on their way to class.

"It's no secret what's occurring inside these spas," he said.

Attorney General Patrick Lynch said some brothel owners may simply close or stop offering sex instead of risking arrest. Police could enforce the law by sending undercover detectives into suspected brothels, he said.

Critics of the legislation have argued it may penalize destitute or drug-addicted women, including some who may be victims of human trafficking. The new law allows accused prostitutes to be acquitted if they claim they were threatened with violence, had their immigration paperwork stolen or were held against their will.

While individual prostitutes may be arrested and prosecuted, Lynch said his office was primarily interested in targeting criminal ringleaders.

"The point is, we'll go from the person who is selling it, predominantly women. But our target overall is to shut it down," Lynch said. "And the best way to do that is to go after the owners, the pimps, or those that manage these types of operations."[/QUOTE]
Now a question. Say I just moved to Rhode Island today. I never gave one thought to visiting a prostitute and have always assumed it was illegal everywhere. I want a massage due to back issues (which can be documented) and see a sign for a massage place and decide to drop in. I'm offered sex, freak out, decline and then leave. Can I really be arrested for just walking in/out the door because the place has a reputation that I am totally unaware of? Just seems pretty far fetched to me. Maybe I'm being naive.

[QUOTE=Newday53] Can I really be arrested for just walking in/out the door because the place has a reputation that I am totally unaware of? Just seems pretty far fetched to me. Maybe I'm being naive.[/QUOTE]I'm a lawyer, but not in Rhode Island. I've read the law, but not studied it carefully.

Please also keep in mind that police will respond to complaints and calls. So higher profile places in residential neighborhoods will attract more police attention. Its a matter of resource allocation. Squeaky wheels get oiled.

With all this in mind, be aware if we, or the spa owners panic, then the economics of the situation will drive them out of business.

I look for a number of places to close down, some to make a real effort to stay inside the law, and for a few to continue business as usual. The quotes from Law enforcement officials indicate that they are not out to arrest workers, nor customers, but owners and promoters.

The bottom line is if you happen to be inside a spa when the police come in on a raid, you may be detained, possibly arrested. Conviction would be another matter, but remember arrest is reported on page 1 with a picture after a perp walk; acquittal rarely makes the news at all.

I can't offer advice, but I intend to continue to travel 95 south from time to time as work permits.

[QUOTE=Newday53]instead of General Topics so I'll offer this that I found in a verified AP article:

Now a question. Say I just moved to Rhode Island today. I never gave one thought to visiting a prostitute and have always assumed it was illegal everywhere. I want a massage due to back issues (which can be documented) and see a sign for a massage place and decide to drop in. I'm offered sex, freak out, decline and then leave. Can I really be arrested for just walking in/out the door because the place has a reputation that I am totally unaware of? Just seems pretty far fetched to me. Maybe I'm being naive.[/QUOTE]On MA board it was posted about how LE planned and executed a raid and sweep in the Springfield area AMPs.Was wondering if similar could happen?

[QUOTE=Bigrig28]I'm a lawyer, but not in Rhode Island. I've read the law, but not studied it carefully.

Please also keep in mind that police will respond to complaints and calls. So higher profile places in residential neighborhoods will attract more police attention. Its a matter of resource allocation. Squeaky wheels get oiled.

With all this in mind, be aware if we, or the spa owners panic, then the economics of the situation will drive them out of business.

I look for a number of places to close down, some to make a real effort to stay inside the law, and for a few to continue business as usual. The quotes from Law enforcement officials indicate that they are not out to arrest workers, nor customers, but owners and promoters.

The bottom line is if you happen to be inside a spa when the police come in on a raid, you may be detained, possibly arrested. Conviction would be another matter, but remember arrest is reported on page 1 with a picture after a perp walk; acquittal rarely makes the news at all.

I can't offer advice, but I intend to continue to travel 95 south from time to time as work permits.[/QUOTE]

Is there a possibility the law would be overturned or ruled unconstitutional? I though it reads that it is illegal to travel to another state for the purpose of prostitution. It seems to be unconstitutional to ban someone from traveling to a state where it is legal (Nevada). Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Newday53]instead of General Topics so I'll offer this that I found in a verified AP article:

Attorney General Patrick Lynch said some brothel owners may simply close or stop offering sex instead of risking arrest. Police could enforce the law by sending undercover detectives into suspected brothels, he said.[/QUOTE]Do you understand what this is all about?

It's not about getting rid of prostitution: they are trying to recruit a lot more undercover detectives!

J

[QUOTE=Joinem Us]Do you understand what this is all about?
...they are trying to recruit a lot more undercover detectives!
J[/QUOTE] and more "cooperating witnesses". Read this:

[url]http://newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/07/city_cops_are_i.php[/url]

After the law changed in RI, I decide to quit the hoppy, imagine if someone is busted in an LE operation and they posted the Pictures on the front page. Reading the Law clearly there is no difference between HE and FS and that is what bother me the most. This is very oppressive rules and will do more damage than good.

When visiting Lilyes or Pleasant street I do not see prostitution of Sex trafficking.
Thank you RI for all the good time and the HE, time has come to move on.

[QUOTE=Newday53]and more "cooperating witnesses". Read this:

[url]http://newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/07/city_cops_are_i.php[/url][/QUOTE]

Will you give your fellow board mongers a discount for representation if something like this were to happen? :)

[QUOTE=Bigrig28]I'm a lawyer, but not in Rhode Island. I've read the law, but not studied it carefully.

Please also keep in mind that police will respond to complaints and calls. So higher profile places in residential neighborhoods will attract more police attention. Its a matter of resource allocation. Squeaky wheels get oiled.

With all this in mind, be aware if we, or the spa owners panic, then the economics of the situation will drive them out of business.

I look for a number of places to close down, some to make a real effort to stay inside the law, and for a few to continue business as usual. The quotes from Law enforcement officials indicate that they are not out to arrest workers, nor customers, but owners and promoters.

The bottom line is if you happen to be inside a spa when the police come in on a raid, you may be detained, possibly arrested. Conviction would be another matter, but remember arrest is reported on page 1 with a picture after a perp walk; acquittal rarely makes the news at all.

I can't offer advice, but I intend to continue to travel 95 south from time to time as work permits.[/QUOTE]

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Any info on Dulce?

[url]http://images.craigslist.org/3ne3m33o45O45T15Sd9b4d2cfe273685c1118.jpg[/url]

Help or hurt? These forums are priceless. I do most of my AMP visits on travel to different cities, that actually means outside RI even when the laws were different. Without these forums I would be lost most places, or overpay, or go to a place that doesn't have what I'm looking for, etc. I think a lot of people who travel for busness are depending on this info just the same.

The forums are providing reviews in every major city and I'm sure LE reads it when it's time to plan a bust, but that's just the way it is. Most major cities LE just doesn't care that much about busting AMPs. RI may be different now that they have a brand new law to enforce, we shall C. Personally, and this is just a hunch, I think we won't see any AMP raids until early next year. I believe LE needs to prove that prostitution is continuing to occur at AMPs AFTER pasage of the law, and that will take a few months. Plus right now is the worst time to send in an undercover to an AMP, with everyone on edge about the new law an undercover might be too easy to spot. Makes sense to wait a few months for the girls to get complacent. Again, just my thoughts.

[QUOTE=Riclagriclag]I'm thinking these forums have out lived there usefulness. Why the hell would someone post their adventures and mention the establishment and Providers they visited. Jesus! Isn't it the same thing as calling the LE. The God damm LE and there witnesses patrol these sites. Their gathering enough shit to add to their investigations. I don't have an answer on how to report mongering at the AMP’s but this forum has to go in hiding or zip it up.

Rick,

Excuse my spellin[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Riclagriclag]I'm thinking these forums have out lived there usefulness. Why the hell would someone post their adventures and mention the establishment and Providers they visited. Jesus! Isn't it the same thing as calling the LE. The God damm LE and there witnesses patrol these sites. Their gathering enough shit to add to their investigations. I don't have an answer on how to report mongering at the AMP’s but this forum has to go in hiding or zip it up.

Rick,

Excuse my spellin[/QUOTE]
I think at this point the forums should become unreadable to all except members, and that no more members should be allowed. Any report with useful postitive information that can be read by anybody is just putting a bullseye on the provider or establishment. It will mean a less active, eventually dead (like us) board, but it won't be a board that gets providers in trouble and that actually leads to less available sevices.