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[QUOTE=Kumail80;4168679]I for one, will rethink future plans of visting AMPs. Still amazed someone like kraft and the other rich dudes would visit a strip mall AMP.[/QUOTE]I have a condo not far from the place of incident, That's a very nice area with lots of money! Regardless of the area let's be real, go find druggies and pimps let people live their lives they are not committing crimes or causing issues.
I agree. It is politics with the kraft deal. Setting an example. Big fish to fry, etc. However this whole "trafficking" push. I raise an eye brow. Maybe this is the case with this situation however I truly wonder. Not condoning trafficking at all, it is despicable but I do feel this was an easy win for these agencies to 'show off' and put themselves on the map so to speak. Granted if it is trafficking then so be it good job but I believe kraft set this in motion. Yes I know for a fact foreign females working doing nails and the such are forced to do that job with no pay because they need to pay off a debt yet we do not hear about any agency investigating this. Anyway the kraft deal has people talking about AMPs at the water cooler. Especially after a certain shock jock talked about AMPs yesterday apparently and how things work (it is not clear if they mentioned this site? For now seems to be a lot of focus and attention on "what happens at these spas" etc.
There have been rumors about the EH circuit and our 2 favorites but let us hope these are truly just "monger's overactive imagination". I personally have not seen some of the stuff others have said. Granted I had a very minor situation that probably was just coincidence so it probably was nothing. But please. Let us use common sense when going to our favorite establishments (and on public forums). I don't want to out certain mongers but I think it is pure common sense not to "loom around" an area for an hour or smoke in the lobby while you wait? Or tell shop owners you are waiting in line for a massage when they inquire why you are standing around BS'ing on your phone in the hallway. Double parking and causing a ruckus. I can go on but. Common sense please. LOL. But really. Do you guys honestly feel any of the AMPs around here put out that they are being forced to do their job?
I did two visits to Burnside. One Sun Night an one Mon morning. I arrived Sun in my 2014 Bentley with my driver. I noticed all the ladies spoke Chinese Manderin an handed them a Benjimin.
Gingerly hopped up on the table an noticed what I thought was a burned out light in the corner. Strange place for it but what. Me worry. Flip an another Bengimin Hey was that Tom in the other room? Not to worry off I went. Mon I had my driver use my 2015 Bentley. Nice to have a choice in cars an in ladies so I picked another Chinese delight. More Benjimins to cheer her up. What was that blinking in the ceiling I wondered? Never mind. No worry. I wondered why all these ladies were hired from a man in Queens. Never mind. No worry. Well I had to get home an pack for the trip to the big game. Hey was that Bill pulling into the strip mall parking lot? No can't be. He has to go to work tonight. Boy you can't beat a doubleheader at Burnside to get you ready for the big game. Just another day in the life. Any of you guys have good experiences like mine at Burnside recently?
[QUOTE=WishId;4169159]I am not a Robert Kraft fan but this whole thing reeks of politics. I too do not believe there is much coercion going on to convince older Chinese women to make extra $$ and give an HE. If the situation were reversed and they suspected forced labor in a spa serving women would they have placed cameras to film unsuspecting women half draped? There are many reports of foreign women being forced to perform manicures without pay to re-pay off travel debts. Are there multi agency task forces involved in busting these places? No because no one would be humiliated and that is the politicians goals. The FBI, and Homeland security need some easy wins and they got one. Now go after the born in America women that are being pimped out. Not so easy or safe to go after pimps with guns who are drugged out. Let's arrest some 60 year old 'Chinese nationals.[/QUOTE]Clearly, the point of the Kraft charges is to scare customers away from these businesses.
I heard a report on NPR about the Jupiter arrests, and the so called experts talked about women being tricked into coming to the states and having to work off large loans for the transportation. I had the same thought you did: that this applies to nail salon workers as well. They talked as if they cared about the workers in these parlors. Which is more demeaning: cleaning dirty feet or stroking penises.
It sounds like Kraft was a big tipper.
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I heard a report on NPR about the Jupiter arrests, and the so called experts talked about women being tricked into coming to the states and having to work off large loans for the transportation. I had the same thought you did: that this applies to nail salon workers as well.[/QUOTE]About 15 years ago, I dated a Chinese woman I met while she was working in a restaurant. She told me that some women get to the US and need to work off the passage based on skills. Those who can do nails, cook, or cut hair can do it here and work off passage faster. Those with no skills are promised a trip, but end up massaging, waiting tables, or cleaning, or a progression through various jobs, under the table and illegally employed. Others come from families who pay the way and the jobs they get here are legit and above board for documented aliens. Some come on student visas and stay beyond.
Not all Asian women are trafficked, but many doing are&T are.
What we doing to celebrate Ron's 1,000 post coming up soon? Dude is EPIC (insert Burnside Nicole joke here).
[QUOTE=Fnm123;4172385]What we doing to celebrate Ron's 1,000 post coming up soon? Dude is EPIC (insert Burnside Nicole joke here).[/QUOTE]What would we get him? A Viagra prescription?
Blue.
I've visited over two dozen AMP's since 2000. Only found one young girl who seemed to be coerced. Another I became friends with over many visits, and I asked her if she could leave anytime. She was Korean (Fantasy in Bpt) and her father went bankrupt during the Asian financial crisis in the late 90's. So she was helping pay his bills. She feared unruly drunk customers most, especially when there wasn't any muscle upstairs or down the street to kick them out.
[QUOTE=Cochonne;4172884]I've visited over two dozen AMP's since 2000. Only found one young girl who seemed to be coerced. Another I became friends with over many visits, and I asked her if she could leave anytime. She was Korean (Fantasy in Bpt) and her father went bankrupt during the Asian financial crisis in the late 90's. So she was helping pay his bills. She feared unruly drunk customers most, especially when there wasn't any muscle upstairs or down the street to kick them out.[/QUOTE]This is a reminder to be respectful to any and all providers. I have heard stories in more recent times of men that have gotten "loud" with the providers for whatever stupid reason. I hate hearing stuff like this. However I know for a fact some establishments have their own security guards if you will. You rarely ever see them but they are on site prepared. Which is good because if you think about it. There is a ton of talk about AMPs from regular folk because of the Kraft situ. Seems like a lot of attention being focused on what goes on at these AMPs. Well a massage session of course. That's it. Be safe out there.
[QUOTE=Cochonne;4172884]I've visited over two dozen AMP's since 2000. Only found one young girl who seemed to be coerced. Another I became friends with over many visits, and I asked her if she could leave anytime. She was Korean (Fantasy in Bpt) and her father went bankrupt during the Asian financial crisis in the late 90's. So she was helping pay his bills. She feared unruly drunk customers most, especially when there wasn't any muscle upstairs or down the street to kick them out.[/QUOTE]A year ago this month, all 3 AMPs in Torrington were raided and shut down for "payroll violations". They all quickly opened, and are still running-no mention of trafficking ever came up. I'm sure the town wanted them to leave town, so if they found any proof of it they wouldn't be open.
[QUOTE=Kumail80;4173219]A year ago this month, all 3 AMPs in Torrington were raided and shut down for "payroll violations". They all quickly opened, and are still running-no mention of trafficking ever came up. I'm sure the town wanted them to leave town, so if they found any proof of it they wouldn't be open.[/QUOTE]I went to comfort about 2 months ago to see if they had any new talent. This new girl there was very new and it showed. I wasnt pushy, but she let me pretty much do what ever I wanted within reason. Then out of nowhere she starts mumbling something about a camera and the boss is watching. Needless to say, I haven't been back since. Now I don't know if she was just saying that to hurry me along or not, but I wasnt about to find out the hard way. I don't really recommend maple either as its the same old lady that's been there for quite awhile now. Not that she is bad, I just like sampling new talent.
[QUOTE=Jcleese01;4173409]I went to comfort about 2 months ago to see if they had any new talent. This new girl there was very new and it showed. I wasnt pushy, but she let me pretty much do what ever I wanted within reason. Then out of nowhere she starts mumbling something about a camera and the boss is watching. Needless to say, I haven't been back since. Now I don't know if she was just saying that to hurry me along or not, but I wasnt about to find out the hard way. I don't really recommend maple either as its the same old lady that's been there for quite awhile now. Not that she is bad, I just like sampling new talent.[/QUOTE]Maple is also next door to a kid's karate place-not the best location.
[QUOTE=Fnm123;4172385]What we doing to celebrate Ron's 1,000 post coming up soon? Dude is EPIC (insert Burnside Nicole joke here).[/QUOTE]I have to tell you. I don't know if EPIC stands for 4 different words or not. If so I think I'm in for a surprise. Or maybe quite wary. I looked up abbreviations above an did not see it. Ill keep my head down just like Nicole does.
Has anyone been to Burnside since the report of change of hands? I have seen several change of hands but this one is a bit pre mature! Maybe I'll take the plunge on Tuesday and report back.
Just curious if anyone listens to a certain Shock Jock on sat. Radio. I do not but a lot of people were telling me he was talking about AMPs the entire week and what goes on there, the set ups, etc. And someone told me they mentioned this board as a place to get information. Seems like unwanted attention. Just curious if anyone listened to this guy this past week and if so what was it all about? Just curious.