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[QUOTE=CleanStreet;7107248]Read today that the owner was arrested. Also owned 2 other locations. I went to Victoria a couple times and had a good time.[/QUOTE]From what was on the police report, it looks like multiple agencies, including the FBI were / are monitoring each location and identifying customers going in. Probably by getting their license plate numbers. I would definitely stay away from them if any of them are still open.
[QUOTE=CleanStreet;7107248]Read today that the owner was arrested. Also owned 2 other locations. I went to Victoria a couple times and had a good time.[/QUOTE]I went there first time on Sunday. Door unlocked. Place seems to be abandoned suddenly. Messy bedsheets on the tables. Grocery delivery still on the counter. I waited on the sofa enjoying the tranquility for at least 10 min. There seems to be a lock on the Four season door. On Monday the Victoria door was locked. Nobody answered the phone since Sunday and voice mail was full.
[QUOTE=FruitCake;7107114]Is coffee the old lady or the Young lady?[/QUOTE]Not super young prolly 40's not big not tiny b / c naturals not particularly perky.
[QUOTE=CleanStreet;7107248]Read today that the owner was arrested. Also owned 2 other locations. [/QUOTE]Not surprised about Four Seasons given its location. Victoria was likely on borrowed time since it was in the same plaza as the Nuru spots. Victoria I remember had a camera directly at customers faces when they came in that I could see when I was in the room. That was enough for me not to want to come back. Granted I don't think it was recording and more so just a live feed, but it was enough for me to say no thanks.
I texted Juju and asked for Lucy because one of you mongers said she had Ds and could DT. I can confirm Lucy is beautiful, likely 20's, flat tummy, but has natural Bs. I didn't mind. She couldn't or didn't DT me, but her BJ was excellent and almost had me blasting early.
After a short massage, she hoisted my hips over her legs and went to town on my johnson. She then backed up and had me bend my legs back as she went to town on my ballsack, taint and brown eye. Just delightful.
In this awkward position, Kelly decides to enter and offers to join. Hell yeah! Kelly is so cute: petite, pretty face and absolutely perfect, squeezable natural C cups. But where Kelly shines is her kissing. Wow! Once I started I couldn't stop, I just kissed her deeply like a GF.
Lisa briefly entered and offered to join for free, such a sweetheart. We made out briefly and she sucked me off a bit, but then disappeared as fast as she entered.
I then started fucking Kelly nice and slow, deeply making out as I did. Lucy started begging to be fucked as well, so we switched rubbers and I went at her mish then doggy while making out with Kelly. I then asked to fuck Kelly again, which I did with her on top and then again in mish. After a while, I asked to CIM and she happily obliged as I shot a powerful load across her tonsils. God that felt good.
As I was leaving, Juju introduced me to a young and small Japanese girl Runa, then a cute petite girl with nice cans named Ice. Personally I thought Kelly was the star tonight as she gave me the full GFE experience and had such a nice rack and DFK skills. But Runa is tiny and looked like she just came from the mall, so she might be fun next time.
[QUOTE=CleanStreet;7107248]Read today that the owner was arrested. Also owned 2 other locations. I went to Victoria a couple times and had a good time.
[URL]https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/local/2024/11/21/brothels-allegedly-operated-as-skin-care-spas-in-thousand-oaks/76461961007/[/URL][/QUOTE]Heard it was a great FS joint also. Shame they got busted.
[QUOTE=JustDee;7107500]Not surprised about Four Seasons given its location. Victoria was likely on borrowed time since it was in the same plaza as the Nuru spots. Victoria I remember had a camera directly at customers faces when they came in that I could see when I was in the room. That was enough for me not to want to come back. Granted I don't think it was recording and more so just a live feed, but it was enough for me to say no thanks.[/QUOTE]It was recording. Behind the counter wall, there are a few printed pictures letter size of customers to be banned. The reason are written down on the picture. From the angle, it is from the obvious hidden security camera outside the counter.
The original post and my recommendation for Coffee was regarding Four Seasons Health Spa in Fullerton, not Four Seasons in Lake Forest.
[QUOTE=CleanStreet;7107248]Read today that the owner was arrested. Also owned 2 other locations. I went to Victoria a couple times and had a good time.
[URL]https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/local/2024/11/21/brothels-allegedly-operated-as-skin-care-spas-in-thousand-oaks/76461961007/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HoDough;7107451]From what was on the police report, it looks like multiple agencies, including the FBI were / are monitoring each location and identifying customers going in. Probably by getting their license plate numbers. I would definitely stay away from them if any of them are still open.[/QUOTE]Yes, and phone calls are tapped, if you don't believe me, call and see the delay in conversation./ That's why you get off names of the girls, like Bananas, peaches, Cherry's, Apples, - what A joke, same thing at Right Spa. I called and asked if I can buy bananas,
[QUOTE=JustDee;7107500]Not surprised about Four Seasons given its location. Victoria was likely on borrowed time since it was in the same plaza as the Nuru spots. Victoria I remember had a camera directly at customers faces when they came in that I could see when I was in the room. That was enough for me not to want to come back. Granted I don't think it was recording and more so just a live feed, but it was enough for me to say no thanks.[/QUOTE]Both of these locations were just fine. The Ventura County Sheriff's started the investigation of Swan Spa in Ventura area, and later discovered the owner of that spa had several other locations.
[QUOTE=HoDough;7107451]From what was on the police report, it looks like multiple agencies, including the FBI were / are monitoring each location and identifying customers going in. Probably by getting their license plate numbers. I would definitely stay away from them if any of them are still open.[/QUOTE]For any sugaring / mongering -type activity, I remove my plate beforehand. I often am in a parking lot, therefore not on public streets, but have sometimes driven some reasonable distance w / no plates, and have never had any difficulty. I also have black electrical tape over the VIN # that must be visible through the windshield of my car, so a casual person walking by can't just snap a cell photo.
[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;7106737][URL]http://nixle.us/FYE5T[/URL]
You can earn up to $1,000.00 reporting massage parlors. Remember when I made a post about how these establishments get caught? Remember the part about disgruntled customers or pissing off some connected person's kid? My thoughts are disgruntled customers are reporting these massage parlors while getting a cash payout.[/QUOTE]I bet one of the girls pissed off an off duty police officer and then the investigation got started. These places have been operating in TO for years. And there are tons more!
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7108014]For any sugaring / mongering -type activity, I remove my plate beforehand. I often am in a parking lot, therefore not on public streets, but have sometimes driven some reasonable distance w / no plates, and have never had any difficulty. I also have black electrical tape over the VIN # that must be visible through the windshield of my car, so a casual person walking by can't just snap a cell photo.[/QUOTE]It's crazy that we have to worry about this stuff on top of the other things we already have on our plates when mongering. I checked Rubmaps, and the locations are indeed all closed now. Probably permanently because no spa is going to replace a location that got raided. Unless they plan on staying legit.
Finally made the trek to North OC to see the famous Lucy. 4 seasons isn't to hard to find parking in the rear plenty of parking at 1:30 today.
I never seen Lucy before but I went in with confidence and asked for her no appointment.
The description fit to a tee. At first I thought it was a coworker at first LOL yikes.
Anyways paid the front desk 50 hh and I get led into room #1 closest to the front. I think I came during lunch time because everyone was fucking up some rice like it was the last meal.
Anyways in comes Lucy in a nice red dress and ask medium or hard. I ask for medium and gives a nice decent massage for 10 minutes on the flip she turns down light and takes off my boxers and starts to oil my wood. I thought she was going to give me a HJ. But no I got a BBBJ with lots of teeth and then got her in 69 which was coo. I think she lubed herself off waaaaaaaay 2 much so it wasn't going to work.
Sidenote she kept opening up her cheeks for me to eat but it was just to slippery in there.
Mediocre bbj that turned in a HJ then turned into me finishing myself in her mouth which she caught All of it 10 Day load LOL.
Finished off with a leg massage.
She didn't even count the tip but I gave her 100.
Looking to come back for Coffee on Sunday or Monday.
What's a good BBBJ to guys because some of yalls most make it to good to be true. Half these girls skills or beginners at least.
Anyways I'll try again one more time.
[QUOTE=Faceless1;7107428]Doesn't matter, a their sign is missing so it is local known only for now LOL.
And red is gone as of today.[/QUOTE]They closed down?
Having seen J-girl Rina last month in San Diego, I wanted a repeat closer to home and played again today. She's such a treat, even with her crooked teeth, which is actually considered a cute thing in Japan. They call it Yaeba. I actually find it cute, too, since she's so young and pretty in face and bod. After the warm-up festivities, followed by CG, I busted rawdog CIP in mish while making out with her. Felt like I was in high school again. She's at Right through Monday, and then back to SD for a bit. Here's my SD encounter report, and you can also do an Advanced Search to find more kudos for Rina: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4989-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=7070717&viewfull=1[/URL]#post7070717.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7108303]They closed down?[/QUOTE]They still open, but their sign is just gone. So maybe fixing it, maybe avoiding some attention?
[QUOTE=Sticker;7108476]Having seen J-girl Rina last month in San Diego, I wanted a repeat closer to home and played again today. She's such a treat, even with her crooked teeth, which is actually considered a cute thing in Japan. They call it Yaeba. I actually find it cute, too, since she's so young and pretty in face and bod. After the warm-up festivities, followed by CG, I busted rawdog CIP in mish while making out with her. Felt like I was in high school again. She's at Right through Monday, and then back to SD for a bit. Here's my SD encounter report, and you can also do an Advanced Search to find more kudos for Rina: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4989-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=7070717&viewfull=1[/URL]#post7070717.[/QUOTE]Is everything BB now t Right? These girls must be trying to have monger hooker anchor babies, Russian roulette is fun I guess.
[QUOTE=Merage;7108079]I bet one of the girls pissed off an off duty police officer and then the investigation got started. These places have been operating in TO for years. And there are tons more![/QUOTE]This may sound untrue but, these days police are very regulated. A lot of times, it's not a Police officer. Just a guy who has connctions or knows how to use the police to persecute people. Kinda like suburban moms (karens) who know how to read thru a law book to find some obscure reason to shut down a restaurant that gave them bad service.
Just think logically, Police are required to uphold a public image. Massage parlors record their customers (known fact). If a cop is dirty, one video being uploaded to the internet or a internal investigation department is the end of their career.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7108014]For any sugaring / mongering -type activity, I remove my plate beforehand. I often am in a parking lot, therefore not on public streets, but have sometimes driven some reasonable distance w / no plates, and have never had any difficulty. I also have black electrical tape over the VIN # that must be visible through the windshield of my car, so a casual person walking by can't just snap a cell photo.[/QUOTE]As long as you're not discussing sex acts in exchange for money, you're not doing anything questionable. They're also targeting black establishments. I'd highly suggest people stay away from south central and black neighborhoods offering these type street services. Apparently, a lot of agencies are tired of half naked 12 year old girls being banged by grown men on the streets of California.
[QUOTE=FruitCake;7107841]Yes, and phone calls are tapped, if you don't believe me, call and see the delay in conversation./ That's why you get off names of the girls, like Bananas, peaches, Cherry's, Apples, - what A joke, same thing at Right Spa. I called and asked if I can buy bananas,[/QUOTE]If you're not asking for sex then, there's nothing go off. "Buying bananas" could be used against you. Kinda like we got "dicks" = Guns.
Anyone know where I can find 18-24 year old Japanese or Korean girls at these massage places. Want to test this out. Preferably non full service places or BJ places.
[QUOTE=LucBlake;7106227]Yikes, hopefully it will take some of the overflow away from the original.[/QUOTE]I want to know how these girls take their money home? Wire?
Most of them are on holiday visas, from what I remember 10 k. Is. Limit for cash on plane. I am. Sure they will be making this in 90 days easy.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;7107874]Both of these locations were just fine. The Ventura County Sheriff's started the investigation of Swan Spa in Ventura area, and later discovered the owner of that spa had several other locations.[/QUOTE]Gotcha, my thought was that due to the locations these places would stand out and draw attention with the foot traffic.
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;7107795]It was recording. Behind the counter wall, there are a few printed pictures letter size of customers to be banned. The reason are written down on the picture. From the angle, it is from the obvious hidden security camera outside the counter.[/QUOTE]I see. I didn't want to assume it was recording initially but that makes sense. I didn't notice any signs at the time when I went. Just seeing other customers faces in 4 K while waiting in the room was enough for me haha.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7108545]Is everything BB now t Right? These girls must be trying to have monger hooker anchor babies, Russian roulette is fun I guess.[/QUOTE]No. Just once and a while.
Anybody seen anyone besides Lucy, Coffee, and Cookie there? If so what was your experience? Thanks.
[QUOTE=ArtVandalay90;7104183]I have seen Cookie recently. She's on the bigger side, but has huge naturals and gave a great tease and BBBJ. I saw her on Lucy's day, but she was filling in and said she works Sunday / Monday usually. Lucy is usually great, but she rushed me last time because it was really busy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;7108658]This may sound untrue but, these days police are very regulated. A lot of times, it's not a Police officer. Just a guy who has connctions or knows how to use the police to persecute people. Kinda like suburban moms (karens) who know how to read thru a law book to find some obscure reason to shut down a restaurant that gave them bad service.
Just think logically, Police are required to uphold a public image. Massage parlors record their customers (known fact). If a cop is dirty, one video being uploaded to the internet or a internal investigation department is the end of their career.[/QUOTE]Yeah if anything an off duty cop using a massage parlor would be to the benefit of the AMP. They would have leverage over that officer and possibly be able to get information from them and or protection through them.
I might be naive but I think for the johns AMPs are very safe from a legal perspective. Unless they catch you in the middle of a sex act it is very unlikely they actually can get any charges to stick. Let alone press charges in the first place. Especially if you don't have any evidence in your phone explicitly asking for sex acts in exchange for money
Wow! I never thought I would see the day that someone could be apple from eco. I was trying to see rina today. And I have to wait four hours. This is crazy. My question is, is she bear backing everybody.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7108545]Is everything BB now t Right? These girls must be trying to have monger hooker anchor babies, Russian roulette is fun I guess.[/QUOTE]For the most part it has been just one BBFS provider there at a time. Yaya, Peach and now Rina. That biz model helps bring in guys like me who also frequent the korg girls, because the majority of those girls offer BBFS for an upcharge. It's a bit less expensive with a Right BBFS provider. Sure, there is slightly more risk for guys going bare with a provider, but these ain't meth-head streetwalkers and are by-and-large very clean. In decades of mongering, I've never caught anything from a rawdog provider, either on my unit on in my mouth from doing oral on them. Last time I caught anything was a case of scabies in the 80's from a civvy girl who was practically virginal.
[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;7108719]Anyone know where I can find 18-24 year old Japanese or Korean girls at these massage places. Want to test this out. Preferably non full service places or BJ places.[/QUOTE]That's an interesting position. I met a 20 year old Japanese girl at a house spa 3 times. She was here on a travel Visa and working the houses in the SGV. I haven't seen her in about a month, so not sure if she's still in the area. However, she's definitely full service and does BBFS.
Asked for Japanese lady, not available, got Kelly.
She is surprisingly cute with big natural assets, young and nice body.
BBBJ was amazing, she also did not forget to take care of balls.
Mission and k9 and finish in bag. She said she's only there for a week.
She's one of the best I have seen there.
[QUOTE=LngTimeMongr;7109130]Wow! I never thought I would see the day that someone could be apple from eco. I was trying to see rina today. And I have to wait four hours. This is crazy. My question is, is she bear backing everybody.[/QUOTE]I had her, and it wasnt bare back.
If you want e more popular provider, it is more wise to call ahead to avoid long lines.
[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;7108719]Anyone know where I can find 18-24 year old Japanese or Korean girls at these massage places. Want to test this out. Preferably non full service places or BJ places.[/QUOTE]RINA at rights spa is full japanese, and you can BBFS.
Bareback at Right Spa is A Fluke / if you ask the lady who answers the phone she can get some more providers "if" you request someone for the staff rotation. Ask, and then let us know what her answer is. Most guys don't want BBFS, so, I'm sure they can switch it up for you guys.
[QUOTE=Merage;7108079]I bet one of the girls pissed off an off duty police officer and then the investigation got started. These places have been operating in TO for years. And there are tons more![/QUOTE]I seriously doubt it. Now, while I don't have any true knowledge about what made TO LE go after them. Could be so many things. At the top of my list, maybe a new tenant didn't like the parlor, maybe one or more of the girls got too loud, too often.
Most likely, someone complained and more than once, more like many times over a longer period of time.
While an off duty LE officer may have been a customer, there's no way he can bring that to work and say, lets start an investigation, I think something funny is going on.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;7108757]I want to know how these girls take their money home? Wire?
Most of them are on holiday visas, from what I remember 10 k. Is. Limit for cash on plane. I am. Sure they will be making this in 90 days easy.[/QUOTE]Some, probably just bring it home and smuggle it in. Not sure how customs could check each person for excess cash.
Probably underground money networks. Somehow, they transfer $$ across borders as legitimate transactions.
[QUOTE=CryMoarHoar;7109219]Asked for Japanese lady, not available, got Kelly.
She is surprisingly cute with big natural assets, young and nice body.
BBBJ was amazing, she also did not forget to take care of balls.
Mission and k9 and finish in bag. She said she's only there for a week.
She's one of the best I have seen there.[/QUOTE]I would agree with the description, her boobs on her small frame, gives an appearance of fullness with a natural sag that real boobs have.
[QUOTE=LngTimeMongr;7109130]Wow! I never thought I would see the day that someone could be apple from eco. I was trying to see rina today. And I have to wait four hours. This is crazy. My question is, is she bear backing everybody.[/QUOTE]I'd imagine she is, that is why you don't want to be bb a * it's your funeral LOL all girls are dirty though Bro, you probably don't even want to be bb your wife. Wrap it up, you don't want a hooker baby either (20 years on child support).
Lisa, Rina, Kelly, Lucy, Sisi expected to work rest of Nov. But you can always text their number on google maps for any last minute changes in the lineup. Same Lisa from several months back, but this Kelly is not the same Kelly from several months back.
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In the early months of 2024, detectives from the Ventura County Sheriffs Office Special Crimes Unit initiated an investigation into Swan Spa.
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Detectives were able to positively identify multiple male individuals suspected of purchasing commercial sex at each of the four locations under investigation.
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Search warrants were served at multiple locations, including Swan Spa, Star Spa, Victoria Spa, Four Seasons Spa, as well as at Xias personal residence.
[/QUOTE]Do you folks think they'll go after identified mongers? What could they possibly have on them?
I don't know about you, but I would stop mongering for the next several months looking at this shit, especially knowing that FBI is involved.
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