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Sadly, everything you have typed is true.

You have not mentioned the other dynamic of all the UTR becoming SA / SB sugar babies, and getting GPS.

Combine that with covid squashing new imports.

Leaving STG and similar sites to have mostly scams and a few desperate IV users.

Be careful out there.

[QUOTE=RLStern;5499070]Lurked backpage whenever I suspected I was being cheated on and started mongering in January 2017 after getting cheated on.

That 1 year and 4 months from January 2017-April 2018 was heaven.

Variety of women, low prices (MAX) for everything included (BBBJ, GFE etc.), no games, no fakes, etc.

Then Sesta / Fosta hit and we were made to rely on forums such as this one, adultsearch, listcrawler, cityxguide, escortindex etc.

Then cityxguide was taken down to which meant automatically escortindex became useless as it relied on it.

Adultsearch started having too many fakes and thereby worthless.

But the biggest problem. Even before the pandemic was the price hikes, now $$$ is normal.

The pandemic hit the prices went even more absurd.

Now bedpage is even worthless.

Sure there's one or two girls who are fair but it's hard to look.

The only sites I use are adultsearch and listcrawler and I feel like I'm going in circles, refreshing, rechecking, scrolling, page turning etc.

You know when you are hungry and keep looking in the fridge, as if the next time you look that maybe there will be something you can find to eat?

That's exactly how I feel with mongering now.

Too many listings for women who I wouldn't see charging absurd rates, same listings over and over again.

I'm asking for help here, if anyone has any other site that I can use other than those two, that's not premiums like Tyrst or Eros, please PM me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RLStern;5499070]Lurked backpage whenever I suspected I was being cheated on and started mongering in January 2017 after getting cheated on.

That 1 year and 4 months from January 2017-April 2018 was heaven.

Variety of women, low prices (MAX) for everything included (BBBJ, GFE etc.), no games, no fakes, etc.

Then Sesta / Fosta hit and we were made to rely on forums such as this one, adultsearch, listcrawler, cityxguide, escortindex etc.

Then cityxguide was taken down to which meant automatically escortindex became useless as it relied on it.

Adultsearch started having too many fakes and thereby worthless.

But the biggest problem. Even before the pandemic was the price hikes, now $$$ is normal.

The pandemic hit the prices went even more absurd.

Now bedpage is even worthless.

Sure there's one or two girls who are fair but it's hard to look.

The only sites I use are adultsearch and listcrawler and I feel like I'm going in circles, refreshing, rechecking, scrolling, page turning etc.

You know when you are hungry and keep looking in the fridge, as if the next time you look that maybe there will be something you can find to eat?

That's exactly how I feel with mongering now.

Too many listings for women who I wouldn't see charging absurd rates, same listings over and over again.

I'm asking for help here, if anyone has any other site that I can use other than those two, that's not premiums like Tyrst or Eros, please PM me.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct in what you're saying here and as far as I know there are no sites that are going to have what you're looking for. I used to meet tons of amazing women up until sesta / fosta hit. Now we're left with premium sites where the ladies think they're worth insane money and crappy sites loaded with fakes, junkies and mostly women I wouldn't touch. I have started to play around with Seeking Arrangement which seems like it could be promising as far as finding indy girls but we'll see. Right now my sidepiece is getting a lot more of my time then she used to!!

[QUOTE=RLStern;5499070]Lurked backpage whenever I suspected I was being cheated on and started mongering in January 2017 after getting cheated on.

That 1 year and 4 months from January 2017-April 2018 was heaven.

Variety of women, low prices (MAX) for everything included (BBBJ, GFE etc.), no games, no fakes, etc.

Then Sesta / Fosta hit and we were made to rely on forums such as this one, adultsearch, listcrawler, cityxguide, escortindex etc.

Then cityxguide was taken down to which meant automatically escortindex became useless as it relied on it.

Adultsearch started having too many fakes and thereby worthless.

But the biggest problem. Even before the pandemic was the price hikes, now $$$ is normal.

The pandemic hit the prices went even more absurd.

Now bedpage is even worthless.

Sure there's one or two girls who are fair but it's hard to look.

The only sites I use are adultsearch and listcrawler and I feel like I'm going in circles, refreshing, rechecking, scrolling, page turning etc.

You know when you are hungry and keep looking in the fridge, as if the next time you look that maybe there will be something you can find to eat?

That's exactly how I feel with mongering now.

Too many listings for women who I wouldn't see charging absurd rates, same listings over and over again.

I'm asking for help here, if anyone has any other site that I can use other than those two, that's not premiums like Tyrst or Eros, please PM me.[/QUOTE]I started mongering in 2009. And everything you said is correct. We are in a new era. I would say the biggest difference now and back when I started is there arent as many UTR women. There was always career escorts on craigslist, backpage, cityxguide. But up until cragislist personals got shut down there was a decent amount of UTR women in the ecosystem across the sites. Those UTR would make ads then after getting a couple regulars would stop advertising and only see those regulars. If you were fortunate to get in before they stopped advertising you could get some amazing deals. Because they would then text you and drop prices or add extras no charge. If you turned them down. So many times a provider went from 150/ hh to 60-80/ hh with whatever extra I wanted as long as I saw them that day. Yea some of them were from homeless shelters, or drug addicts, but so many were the type you'd see on Tryst nowadays. I'd say the balance was 50/50 UTR to career escorts back then.

Nowadays that balance is closer to 99% career escorts who make ads every day and 1% UTR. Basically if you see an escort ad on any site she has probably made ads for months by now so they already have their regulars and since there are less providers they can afford to reject you if you don't like their price or no list. Also nowadays I haven't had a provider ever hit me up out of the blue asking to meet this happened all the time in the craiglist days with the UTR. Which was basically the UTR going I'd rather ask you to see me then make an ad. The career escorts are opposite they make the ad and never contact you if you don't contact them.

With sites there just arent any outside of Skipthegames and escort alligator that get much traffic from the non-upscale provider group. sumosear.ch is the archive. COVID cases rising again isnt helping to inspire women to get into escorting either. I have already started to see providers say they are taking another break due to the Delta Variant.

[QUOTE=ArabicKing;5497676]I literally was wanting to have a girl come to my house and was searching online for some decent outcall service company it's a lady name Catalinas and guys the girl they sent me was amazing. She was fire and the way she gave me that head in my bed I was just dreaming of how good it was. I gave her a tip and she mentioned the girls change time to time. If any of the bros want the number message me I will reply back.[/QUOTE]Outcalls are more common than you think CDPs like V. I. P. Do it and up the price a little.

Visiting queens later this week and would appreciate some spots for a quality CDP (other than DH which I have visited and enjoy, but want something new). I'm in north jersey and could trade some numbers and locations in the Paterson area, if you PM me. Used to have a 10/10 dreamgirl in Newark but once corona hit she disappeared, world hasn't been the same since.

[QUOTE=BrooklynMatt;5499523]You are 100% correct in what you're saying here and as far as I know there are no sites that are going to have what you're looking for. I used to meet tons of amazing women up until sesta / fosta hit. Now we're left with premium sites where the ladies think they're worth insane money and crappy sites loaded with fakes, junkies and mostly women I wouldn't touch. I have started to play around with Seeking Arrangement which seems like it could be promising as far as finding indy girls but we'll see. Right now my sidepiece is getting a lot more of my time then she used to!![/QUOTE]I keep hearing seeking arrangements but see it's a dating site, how do you use it for mongering and is there a premium to it?

I keep hearing about it but no clue how to use it.

Guys,

I had a great time in your city. NYC is awesome and Queens was a shining light on the hill of NYC for me personally. I learned a lot about the massage parlor scene in your town and hit a CDP (DH) too. I was missing something though. I wanted a good greek session or something else "premium". I promise that's the ONLY time I'll use the world "premium" for the rest of the post.

https://queens.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ready-for-anythingreal-no-game/495771882368

I saw "bella". Coordination was simple. She was super responsive via text. Her pictures are accurate, but taken in a way that is very flattering. I think Bella accidentally sent me a text that was meant for someone else, it said "I need liquor". I didn't respond, because I wasn't about to offer to stop for that too. I was literally on my way to the airport. She's in a hotel in Jamaica that was more than a little shady to me. She said when I parked I could come to the 4th floor and she would tell me the room number. Well. Surprise. You can't go to another floor via the elevator if you aren't a guest. In the elevator is specifically said you have to have a room key to use it. HOWEVER, I'm no punk and don't give up that easily on Greek. So I checked the stairs and you can TOTALLY go up to the 4th floor that way.

I called her from the 4th floor and she let me into her room. It's literally a step away from the elevator. Out of one and into the other. Small room, usual drug dirty with shit all over the place. Bella was obviously drunk when I got there. She was very coherent and wasn't slurring or anything, but her other mannerisms suggested she got that liquor she wanted earlier. I had arranged for a HH with Greek and two pops for 180. She did a very lack luster BBBJ until I was hard. Because the BBBJ was pretty lousy, I wanted to hit it pretty quick, tossed on the cover and went to town. I started mish in the P. And she was all about that. She was moving with me and everything, very GFE about that at least. I wanted to hit that ass though, so I started to move down a hole and it just wouldn't go in.

This isn't the first time I've had this issue. Either the woman doesn't REALLY want to do greek, or is literally too tight and needs to be stretched out a touch. So I asked her if she was really into doing the Greek or if I should get a couple dollars back. She said very clearly she was into it and flipped over doggy. This was potentially the best part of the whole appointment. She let me finger her ass with first one, then two. Then three fingers. She was gaping and everything. I played with the pussy during that time too. When her ass was just too cute not to fuck and gaping ready for me. I would pound the butt for a few strokes then move to her pussy for a few strokes. Back and forth edging the whole time.

I told her I would offer to make it a single pop instead of two if she would suck it out of me and then take the facial. She was down for basically whatever I wanted to do. And that was all my imagination came up with. LOL.

All in all. For a 180. It was fun. She's not a great looker (5/10. With 2 of that 5 being because she has punk red hair I love) her attitude could have been better if she wasn't drunk, but again. She let me basically do whatever I wanted to.

It was fun!! I would do it again if I was local for sure!

I'll be back in a couple of months. I would really like to see her again, and if you guys know of anyone I should hit up when I'm there, please let me know.

Doe. Out. For now.

[QUOTE=MichaelDoe;5499854]Guys,

I had a great time in your city. NYC is awesome and Queens was a shining light on the hill of NYC for me personally. I learned a lot about the massage parlor scene in your town and hit a CDP (DH) too. I was missing something though. I wanted a good greek session or something else "premium". I promise that's the ONLY time I'll use the world "premium" for the rest of the post.

I saw "bella". Coordination was simple. She was super responsive via text. Her pictures are accurate, but taken in a way that is very flattering. I think Bella accidentally sent me a text that was meant for someone else, it said "I need liquor". I didn't respond, because I wasn't about to offer to stop for that too. I was literally on my way to the airport. She's in a hotel in Jamaica that was more than a little shady to me. She said when I parked I could come to the 4th floor and she would tell me the room number. Well. Surprise. You can't go to another floor via the elevator if you aren't a guest. In the elevator is specifically said you have to have a room key to use it. HOWEVER, I'm no punk and don't give up that easily on Greek. So I checked the stairs and you can TOTALLY go up to the 4th floor that way.

I called her from the 4th floor and she let me into her room. It's literally a step away from the elevator. Out of one and into the other. Small room, usual drug dirty with shit all over the place. Bella was obviously drunk when I got there. She was very coherent and wasn't slurring or anything, but her other mannerisms suggested she got that liquor she wanted earlier. I had arranged for a HH with Greek and two pops for 180. She did a very lack luster BBBJ until I was hard. Because the BBBJ was pretty lousy, I wanted to hit it pretty quick, tossed on the cover and went to town. I started mish in the P. And she was all about that. She was moving with me and everything, very GFE about that at least. I wanted to hit that ass though, so I started to move down a hole and it just wouldn't go in..[/QUOTE]Do you have the link? Thank you.

[QUOTE=MichaelDoe;5499854]Guys,

I had a great time in your city. NYC is awesome and Queens was a shining light on the hill of NYC for me personally. I learned a lot about the massage parlor scene in your town and hit a CDP (DH) too. I was missing something though. I wanted a good greek session or something else "premium". I promise that's the ONLY time I'll use the world "premium" for the rest of the post.

https://queens.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ready-for-anythingreal-no-game/495771882368

I saw "bella". Coordination was simple. She was super responsive via text. Her pictures are accurate, but taken in a way that is very flattering. I think Bella accidentally sent me a text that was meant for someone else, it said "I need liquor". I didn't respond, because I wasn't about to offer to stop for that too. I was literally on my way to the airport. She's in a hotel in Jamaica that was more than a little shady to me. She said when I parked I could come to the 4th floor and she would tell me the room number. Well. Surprise. You can't go to another floor via the elevator if you aren't a guest. In the elevator is specifically said you have to have a room key to use it. HOWEVER, I'm no punk and don't give up that easily on Greek. So I checked the stairs and you can TOTALLY go up to the 4th floor that way.

I called her from the 4th floor and she let me into her room. It's literally a step away from the elevator. Out of one and into the other. Small room, usual drug dirty with shit all over the place. Bella was obviously drunk when I got there. She was very coherent and wasn't slurring or anything, but her other mannerisms suggested she got that liquor she wanted earlier. I had arranged for a HH with Greek and two pops for 180. She did a very lack luster BBBJ until I was hard. Because the BBBJ was pretty lousy, I wanted to hit it pretty quick, tossed on the cover and went to town. I started mish in the P. And she was all about that. She was moving with me and everything, very GFE about that at least. I wanted to hit that ass though, so I started to move down a hole and it just wouldn't go in.

This isn't the first time I've had this issue. Either the woman doesn't REALLY want to do greek, or is literally too tight and needs to be stretched out a touch. So I asked her if she was really into doing the Greek or if I should get a couple dollars back. She said very clearly she was into it and flipped over doggy. This was potentially the best part of the whole appointment. She let me finger her ass with first one, then two. Then three fingers. She was gaping and everything. I played with the pussy during that time too. When her ass was just too cute not to fuck and gaping ready for me. I would pound the butt for a few strokes then move to her pussy for a few strokes. Back and forth edging the whole time.

I told her I would offer to make it a single pop instead of two if she would suck it out of me and then take the facial. She was down for basically whatever I wanted to do. And that was all my imagination came up with. LOL.

All in all. For a 180. It was fun. She's not a great looker (5/10. With 2 of that 5 being because she has punk red hair I love) her attitude could have been better if she wasn't drunk, but again. She let me basically do whatever I wanted to.

It was fun!! I would do it again if I was local for sure!

I'll be back in a couple of months. I would really like to see her again, and if you guys know of anyone I should hit up when I'm there, please let me know.

Doe. Out. For now.[/QUOTE]Round of applause because you didn't get robbed and scammed yeah that's the issue with independents. Send me a message and I'll explain "extras" and who to look for. The reviews were great and your enthusiasm is nostalgic. I don't miss the seedy hotels tho.

Provider's Name: Butterfly aka Supreme Doll.

Pictures Accurate: different look.

Date of Visit: 08/17.

Donation / Time Spent: 120/30 mins+40 tip=160 total.

When I seen Butterfly was back in the lineup, I knew I had to drop everything I was doing and head over. I got in and grabbed my cards before taking a seat to wait. There was a few of the usual suspects on the couches awaiting the ladies to start coming out. Tonight's roster was Luz, Yenny, Brenda, Deborah, Sury, Kelly, Cristina, Lulu and Butterfly. Finally she was available, so I gave her 2 cards to start and told her welcome home. As soon as the door closed we hugged and kissed. She told me she didn't have no weed and I'm like how is that my problem LOL. I laid down and she cleaned me up before starting a bbj. Like 2 minutes in, I had to stop her to put on a rubber because I was about to pop. She laughed like "oh my god you can't take my head bare". I'm like I can, but I want to see that ass bouncing on my dick too. So now CBJ for a few minutes until I tell her to get on top. Cowgirl was fire and she was moaning up a storm with every Thurst. I said let's do doggy. Once I got a good rhythm going, I had her throwing it back and creaming on my dick. I told her yeah I came ready and we got a good bed today. She turned around licking her lips at me and said let me suck that dick now. She did it while laying down while I palmed that ass as she went. I felt my knees getting weak and said I got to lay down. Once I did she proceeded to go helicopter mode sucking on my dick. I'm not quite sure how to explain it, but something about the way she sucks it and the cool whipping of her braids against my leg had me busting a huge load. I'm like see that's how we make it last longer. She cleaned me up and we laid cuddled up until the knock. Butterfly asked me to stay with her for another card and I said I will if she gives me a massage. I extended a third card and turned over. She got right to it and she got some strong hands so it was just what I needed. About half way through, I guess she got horny again because she goes like "let me suck that dick some more". I thought to myself who am I to deny you? So I flipped over and she did just that. A few minutes later the knock came and I debated on extending again. However there was a mob of hungry mongers in queue for her and it was a school night anyway. So with it getting a bit late, I decided to save it for later in the week as she did tell me she's in until Sunday. Gave her 2 Jacksons, kissed her goodbye and she told me don't be a stranger before I departed. Always a great time with her. If ya'll never seen her elsewhere due to your ethnicity, a refferal being needed or maybe their prices were just a little to steep for you; now is your time to do so.

[QUOTE=GodMann;5498002]All the CDPs are wack not just dollhouse if you ask me anyways try this one [URL]https://callescort.org/332-331-6109[/URL] she's legit and that ass is real unlike those hoes working in the CDP. Bro leave a review if you do see her just to break the monotony in this thread with all these CDP reviews.[/QUOTE]Fire is the real deal. One of the only girls I've seen through lingering who makes me pop stupid quick. Head is decent but if you're there to see her it's for the ass. Literally another world. She knows how to take it, doesn't complain, throws it back at you. She's raised her prices since Covid which is why I haven't seen her recently. She usually hosts in Saint Albans. If you just want a big real ass for a day you can't go wrong with her.

So I geared up with all intentions of slaying butterfly but guys were fighting over her. Out the corner of my eye was a brunette with the most perfect slim body and I decided to kill. Did 3 cards and the show begin she was worried about my razor bumps but I assured I get test regularly but I appreciated her being so thorough. The CBJ was actually the best I've had in a awhile and the enthusiasm was great. So a passion fruit mix is in the background and she rides me both in cowgirl and reverse. We switch to mish and Honestly it was the hottest part I mean the eye contact was so strong and ngl that grip is a dream I had her on some baby boy shit. She tells me to go harder and I do. Eventually we switch to doggy and oh slim thicc is always a gift so I drill it for awhile and she throws it back and I'm like take the wheel. I eventually blow in the bag and realized I could of kept going but I pulled out and we did the clean up she gives me a kiss and I kiss her ass cheeks for good luck. Honestly I miss chemistry like that so maybe I'll see her again. It was a bit more crowded but 2 guys left and 2 girls were in the waiting area. Actually the girl that opened the door with glasses looked pretty good too. Idk I saw butterfly and she had microbraids that made her look like an albino but hey maybe next time damage was 120 + 25 tip and yeah I'm going to need at least 2 more sessions.

Be safe guys!

[QUOTE=RLStern;5499753]I keep hearing seeking arrangements but see it's a dating site, how do you use it for mongering and is there a premium to it?

I keep hearing about it but no clue how to use it.[/QUOTE]I am just starting to use it so I'm sure someone else can explain it better. It is supposed to be a dating site for wealthy guys and sugar babies so in theory these girls are looking for men to support them. But the reality is a lot of these girls are the types of UTR girls we would find on Craigslist in the old days and who will meet up on a fee per date basis. I've definitely seen some of the ladies that we see on other sites there as well. You basically have to have a premium membership to send messages (which is about 100/ month IIRC) which I have not signed up for yet. However what has surprisingly worked for me is I've found some girls there who are also Instagram "Models" with * pages and I wound up meeting up with one of them by messaging her through Instagram. She was fun and she was a real indy like we used to find. I just won't be seeing her again because she was a little too weird for me personality wise. I do plan on getting a premium membership this week and we'll see what happens. I figure it's worth a shot before I completely give up on seeing anyone that I don't already know.

Longtime listener, first time caller. After hearing about Butterfly for years I finally made the pilgrimage to DH for the first time. For anyone who like myself had not been before, after you call or text they'll reply with a long text message listing the girls available that day and the exact address. It's about two blocks from the 7 train. The house is very discreet and blends in on the block but they keep an eye on the cameras and open the door as soon as you come up the stairs.

Typical fast house. I only got one card, on a budget and after reading a previous review about her head game being so on point, I figured why pay extra. When I got there in the early evening there were three guys ahead of me and a handful of girls waiting around. But I came with the intent to see Butterfly so I wasn't going to stray, and if these three guys read the same reviews I did it may be a long wait. But to my surprise, one by one they each chose a different girl to see and shortly after Butterfly was available with no one ahead of me.

I got to say, I was surprised by her appearance. She was much thicker than I anticipated. Like, I've seen the girl known as Thanos on this board before, thicker than her. And also the braids was a very different look than the big curly blonde hair in the photos. As soon as my clothes came off she was putting the cover on. I thought the previous review I read said she gave BBBJ so I asked and she said no, that'll be $40 extra, which was disappointing. Proceed with the CBJ which was good, but not to the same extent as the review I read where I would have to ask her to stop so I don't bust my load. So after a couple min she was like, I want to fuck and got on top. Shortly after we got the knock on the door. While straddling me she asks if I want to get another ticket, and I was like nope, just the one today. She was nice throughout the session and didn't rush me and even after I said no she kept riding me and asked me if I was going to cum for her–which I eventually did just as the second knock came.

Glad I got to see her and fulfill my curiosity. She was very sweet, called me cute, complimented my package, etc. I definitely got my monies worth ($40 for 10 min + $20 tip = $60). But I personally wouldn't repeat, just not my type. Also, happy to finally fulfill my curiosity about DH.

[QUOTE=BrooklynMatt;5500540]I am just starting to use it so I'm sure someone else can explain it better. It is supposed to be a dating site for wealthy guys and sugar babies so in theory these girls are looking for men to support them. But the reality is a lot of these girls are the types of UTR girls we would find on Craigslist in the old days and who will meet up on a fee per date basis. I've definitely seen some of the ladies that we see on other sites there as well. You basically have to have a premium membership to send messages (which is about 100/ month IIRC) which I have not signed up for yet. However what has surprisingly worked for me is I've found some girls there who are also Instagram "Models" with * pages and I wound up meeting up with one of them by messaging her through Instagram. She was fun and she was a real indy like we used to find. I just won't be seeing her again because she was a little too weird for me personality wise. I do plan on getting a premium membership this week and we'll see what happens. I figure it's worth a shot before I completely give up on seeing anyone that I don't already know.[/QUOTE]Is there a way to utilize this app to make contact without paying a subscription?