"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3552024]If I weren't almost three times their age I guess I would see your point.[/QUOTE]Well I'm 65 myself and all the hunting grounds you mentioned for young civy girls just don't work anymore for me. Most younger girls don't notice an old man unless your wearing a trenchcoat and that doesn't get thex type of attention your looking for. Thats why I do SA, its much easier than hanging in the supermarket, library, park or mall. Saves me alot of time and much faster results. I can weed out the sex workers and focus my attention on the civy girls that are truly interested in my cash lmao.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3553891]Well I'm 65 myself and all the hunting grounds you mentioned for young civy girls just don't work anymore for me. Most younger girls don't notice an old maif SBs unless your wearing a trenchcoat and that doesn't get thex type of attention your looking for. Thats why I do SA, its much easier than hanging in the supermarket, library, park or mall. Saves me alot of time and much faster results. I can weed out the sex workers and focus my attention on the civy girls that are truly interested in my cash lmao.[/QUOTE]I hear you. It's a lot easier to start with girls who have already made the decision to want cash for their booty. If I were starting from scratch and didn't already have a stable of SBs then Ii would definitely go back to SA. But I have the luxury of taking my time and my preference these days is convincing civies to take the plunge.

Hi all, I'm posting in the Richmond forum hoping to get some wisdom. I have read the tips section extensively and have been mongering for 30 plus years but I ran afoul last night and the bowl seems just as dangerous as BP at the moment. I have been successful with several fun experiences on SA. My routine, polished from the knowledge on this forum is to try and get a text number as soon as the comfort level is there. Then I search facebook for the number and that works about half the time.

When it doesn't that is where the risks are. I was scammed last night by a dude posing as a hottie with whom I had at least 10 texts with over several months. I didn't get robbed because I've been doing this a while and spidey is still with me. But I very easily could have been in a nasty situation.

My question is what other techniques do you use to verify I'd?

Thanks in advance for any tips and also for the knowledge pool which has helped immensely.

Just meet in public like a coffee shop, restaurant, or diner for the first meet. If a SB asks you to meet in private for the first meet, you're dealing with a pro or a scammer. Easy enough right?

[QUOTE=CletePurcell;3556696]Hi all, I'm posting in the Richmond forum hoping to get some wisdom. I have read the tips section extensively and have been mongering for 30 plus years but I ran afoul last night and the bowl seems just as dangerous as BP at the moment. I have been successful with several fun experiences on SA. My routine, polished from the knowledge on this forum is to try and get a text number as soon as the comfort level is there. Then I search facebook for the number and that works about half the time.

When it doesn't that is where the risks are. I was scammed last night by a dude posing as a hottie with whom I had at least 10 texts with over several months. I didn't get robbed because I've been doing this a while and spidey is still with me. But I very easily could have been in a nasty situation.

My question is what other techniques do you use to verify I'd?

Thanks in advance for any tips and also for the knowledge pool which has helped immensely.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3554847]I hear you. It's a lot easier to start with girls who have already made the decision to want cash for their booty. If I were starting from scratch and didn't already have a stable of SBs then Ii would definitely go back to SA. But I have the luxury of taking my time and my preference these days is convincing civies to take the plunge.[/QUOTE]If you are having good luck scoring with non SB or Civvies, why convert them to SB??

Thanks CM.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3557098]Just meet in public like a coffee shop, restaurant, or diner for the first meet. If a SB asks you to meet in private for the first meet, you're dealing with a pro or a scammer. Easy enough right?[/QUOTE]Yes, that part is very simple and your approach is prudent. What I'm trying to avoid is the hard work developing a relationship only to find out that it's a scam. It would be nice to find out as soon as possible that the number is not legit. Facebook is great for that but scammers are now using burner phones too. I'm looking for a way to reduce the number of scammers but maybe that's impossible with a burner phone.

[QUOTE=CletePurcell;3557389]Yes, that part is very simple and your approach is prudent. What I'm trying to avoid is the hard work developing a relationship only to find out that it's a scam. It would be nice to find out as soon as possible that the number is not legit. Facebook is great for that but scammers are now using burner phones too. I'm looking for a way to reduce the number of scammers but maybe that's impossible with a burner phone.[/QUOTE]Well for starters I wouldn't spend months chatting up some girl. I focus on girls in the area, and that can meet within a few days. More than a couple of weeks max and that's bail out and at best re-engage at another time. There's too many girls on the site to spend so much energy / time on one.

So here is my situation: over the last year I've had at least half a dozen SBs tell me *they'd love* to have a girl join us during our fun time only for them to get cold feet once we actually start talking about making it happen. I know some guys here have had success with this so I'd love to hear how it came about.

Some background, I usually date college girls, in the 19-21 range, and often first or second time babies. No semi-pros, never girls older than 25, always somewhat submissive. As far as I can tell these girls really get attached after the first or second meet and don't want to share me or bring another cutie into the mix.

Gentlemen, share your secret sauce.

[QUOTE=CletePurcell;3556696]Hi all, I'm posting in the Richmond forum hoping to get some wisdom. I have read the tips section extensively and have been mongering for 30 plus years but I ran afoul last night and the bowl seems just as dangerous as BP at the moment. I have been successful with several fun experiences on SA. My routine, polished from the knowledge on this forum is to try and get a text number as soon as the comfort level is there. Then I search facebook for the number and that works about half the time.

When it doesn't that is where the risks are. I was scammed last night by a dude posing as a hottie with whom I had at least 10 texts with over several months. I didn't get robbed because I've been doing this a while and spidey is still with me. But I very easily could have been in a nasty situation.

My question is what other techniques do you use to verify I'd?

Thanks in advance for any tips and also for the knowledge pool which has helped immensely.[/QUOTE]You simply meet them in a public place, as if it were a date -- coffee shop, restaurant, etc. Robbers or scammers have no interest in showing up for something like that. You didn't mention exactly how you got from point A to B so it's hard to be more specific. If you're just going to meet girls in a hotel room that they specify, or to meet them at their house or apt for the first meeting, you just playing with UTRs and overpriced BP girls, and in that sense it's no safer than typical monger behavior.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;3557218]If you are having good luck scoring with non SB or Civvies, why convert them to SB??

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]

I can only speak from my own thoughts and experiences here, but this question has come up in the past.

The sugar bowl isn't as cut and dried as mongering. The girls run the gamut from escorts posing as SBs to girls who are basically civvy dates with a thing for older successful guys. Some girls are only after the money, some are after something real. For most women, what they expect from you depends on how much they like you and is a matter of personal chemistry. By giving them allowance and calling it an "arrangement", they are less prone to read too much into it and try to get involved in your life.

When I didn't have an SO, I never paid for pussy (not in cash anyway), I had no reason to. But now that I have something to lose, I have to be careful. Gifting them cash removes any possibility of having to deal with a bunch of texts like "why the fuck haven't you called me in a week!" or some other painful expectation. It reminds them that we are only helping each other out, and not looking to become a shoulder to cry on.

Not only do I not want to get caught and mess things up with my SO because of some neurotic stalker girl, but I also don't like the idea of finding civvy girls who are looking for more than sex with a random stranger, screwing them and then leaving them feeling like they were used for sex. Outside of professional sex workers, women are very prone to feeling like this after casual sex. I'm probably as chauvinistic as they come, but I do have a conscience and integrity and don't want to mislead anyone. I wouldn't feel right leading civvy girls into thinking I'm interested in dating, only to turn them into an occasional booty call. I've made that mistake before and it turns into headache one way or another.

I've been with two escorts in my entire life. The first experience was a nice BBBJCIM, then she hops on the bed, lays next to me, says "I wanna do THIS!" and puts my arm around her, turns off her phone and proceeds to watch TV with me, basically trying to cuddle. What the fuck? The second one was a highly rated girl here on USASG that the readership in one city I travel to occasionally seems to love. Called her when I was in town and invited her to my room, and I made the mistake of offering her a beer and she starts telling me her life story. 10 minutes later she tried to kiss me on the mouth. Again what the fuck. When I politely declined, she was clearly insulted and the date went downhill from there. Never again, escorts just aren't my thing. The idea of kissing a girl who has probably sucked a half dozen other cocks in the last 24 hours makes me nauseous. An impersonal tuggy or hummer at a massage parlor or back room of a strip club? Sure. Love strippers, all the fun and none of the baggage.

If I didn't have an SO I'd probably stick to civvy sites to try to find some nice fuck buddies to pass the time while I look for someone I like actually spending time with. Friends with benefits are the best.

However if not in a relationship, I'm always keeping an eye out for something more than just sex too. When in that situation, I'm more inclined to be open to giving them some attention and emotional support, because I'm the type that doesn't like to be alone. Right now, being alone is only a problem with either I travel or my SO travels, so that's the only time I venture out.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;3557218]If you are having good luck scoring with non SB or Civvies, why convert them to SB??

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]Money greases the skids no matter how good your game when you are MUCH older than they are.

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3558459]I can only speak from my own thoughts and experiences here, but this question has come up in the past.

The sugar bowl isn't as cut and dried as mongering. The girls run the gamut from escorts posing as SBs to girls who are basically civvy dates with a thing for older successful guys. Some girls are only after the money, some are after something real. For most women, what they expect from you depends on how much they like you and is a matter of personal chemistry. By giving them allowance and calling it an "arrangement", they are less prone to read too much into it and try to get involved in your life.

When I didn't have an SO, I never paid for pussy (not in cash anyway), I had no reason to. But now that I have something to lose, I have to be careful. Gifting them cash removes any possibility of having to deal with a bunch of texts like "why the fuck haven't you called me in a week!" or some other painful expectation. It reminds them that we are only helping each other out, and not looking to become a shoulder to cry on.

Not only do I not want to get caught and mess things up with my SO because of some neurotic stalker girl, but I also don't like the idea of finding civvy girls who are looking for more than sex with a random stranger, screwing them and then leaving them feeling like they were used for sex. Outside of professional sex workers, women are very prone to feeling like this after casual sex. I'm probably as chauvinistic as they come, but I do have a conscience and integrity and don't want to mislead anyone. I wouldn't feel right leading civvy girls into thinking I'm interested in dating, only to turn them into an occasional booty call. I've made that mistake before and it turns into headache one way or another.

I've been with two escorts in my entire life. The first experience was a nice BBBJCIM, then she hops on the bed, lays next to me, says "I wanna do THIS!" and puts my arm around her, turns off her phone and proceeds to watch TV with me, basically trying to cuddle. What the fuck? The second one was a highly rated girl here on USASG that the readership in one city I travel to occasionally seems to love. Called her when I was in town and invited her to my room, and I made the mistake of offering her a beer and she starts telling me her life story. 10 minutes later she tried to kiss me on the mouth. Again what the fuck. When I politely declined, she was clearly insulted and the date went downhill from there. Never again, escorts just aren't my thing. The idea of kissing a girl who has probably sucked a half dozen other cocks in the last 24 hours makes me nauseous. An impersonal tuggy or hummer at a massage parlor or back room of a strip club? Sure. Love strippers, all the fun and none of the baggage.

If I didn't have an SO I'd probably stick to civvy sites to try to find some nice fuck buddies to pass the time while I look for someone I like actually spending time with. Friends with benefits are the best.

However if not in a relationship, I'm always keeping an eye out for something more than just sex too. When in that situation, I'm more inclined to be open to giving them some attention and emotional support, because I'm the type that doesn't like to be alone. Right now, being alone is only a problem with either I travel or my SO travels, so that's the only time I venture out.[/QUOTE]What is the true meaning of Friends with benefits? Thanks CM.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;3559674]What is the true meaning of Friends with benefits? Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]I guess it could mean different things to different people, but in civy dating circles its usually abbreviated FWB and just means a casual fuck-buddy. Someone you like as a person and enjoy regular sex with, but have both agreed that's all it is.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;3553692]Hello,

Am trying to get into SB / SD scene and was looking to get a 1-month subscription of SA using a Visa / MC GC.

Was trying to see what information should I download within this month and then let the membership elapse.

Thanks,[/QUOTE]One month is plenty of time.

Just make sure you search phone numbers and pictures.

One on last week was on a pen pal site just 3 week before from prison!

Just looking to turn her criminal ways around LOL.

Not wait me tho.

Lot of freshers started their fall semester. Any one experienced SA in local or sorrounding RVA area?

PM with profile links and contact details.