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[QUOTE=Ledger6969;1875896]If you drive into Chinatown you can visit the salon at Hudson st. I tried for the first time several weeks ago a new "hot looking" babe good looking and pretty nice personality. There was two woman working. The day I visited both appeared in their 30s both. Nice looking, shapely and ready to offer their massage which is 60 mins for 50 bucks. Not a bad price![/QUOTE]Does the "hot looking" babe have a name?
Just noticed this one posted on CL Unique Asian Spa. Anyone venture a massage?
Location: 850 Washington St. Weymouth, MA. 02189.
Near Walmart and Stop&shop.
[url]http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/thp/4071740573.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Momo2; 1869994]I do not tip differently if I go half or full. My tip does not change with the house fee either. I figure this is simply for the service performed.
My standard tip is 40 for a HE with or without UTC up top. I very seldom give less when a HE is involved. If the quality of the HE is sub-par, I just do not repeat. I figure a bad first time experience is on me. I should have done some research looked to see if they have any good reviews.
I usually go to 60 with UTC up and down, DATY or BJ (seldom happens). I know I will go higher if she makes me fall in love and / or she treats me like a king.
Anything more breaks into the FS territory. You can get half an hour with an R_S_G model for 150.[/QUOTE]Well well well. After a two month 'bacation' from the board and any visits anywhere I come back to the age old argument about tips. I certainly haven't read all the back posts and I probably won't but I have to give MM2 some credit here. His numbers are spot on. Anything short of that disrespects the woman and causes the rest of us trouble down the road. What trouble you ask. Well is she has been 'screwed' by someone before me then she is:
*going to ask for the money before hand which ruins the mood.
*be in a bad mood herself which isn't a good omen.
*try and make up the money on the next person which could be me.
*be pissed off at men and not give the kind of massage / HJ that we like.
*many other reasons that will ruin the mood.
Here is the deal. We are talking about real women doing a job to make some money. They aren't in it to just grab our cocks. Most of them are honest and do a good job servicing us. As with most humans they are susceptible to mood swings and sometimes aren't in the best possible mood due to daily life just like we as customers may not always be jovial and happy. We don't like to be pissed off just as much as they don't. So let's not ruin it for our fellow mongers by trying to save 5 or 10 bucks.
On a different and personal note to all of you that don't buckle up. Take it from me and take the extra second to do it. The life you save might very well be your own. Stressed!
Got Angel who I have never seen before. Draped the whole time, even the feather touch was draped over my entire back. Got told DIY, when she saw time was up she helped me a long. Access up top. 40+40.
Looks like what was once a sure fire thing, is no longer.
[QUOTE=XJDiamond; 1876438]Got Angel who I have never seen before. Draped the whole time, even the feather touch was draped over my entire back. Got told DIY, when she saw time was up she helped me a long. Access up top. 40+40.
Looks like what was once a sure fire thing, is no longer.[/QUOTE]Been there once after going to a legit place. Masseuse was very thin, older, good body for age, but thin. Left happy, that is probably the worst feeling, especially at well known joints like that one. Just try a new place, they are popping up in Braintree, Weymouth even Plymouth.
Saw Hong in Wilmington not too long ago. Not bad. If I had to critique it's that she sometimes gets a little chatty and loses focus on the massage. Not the best English but a nice woman though, nonetheless. The location is decent. Looks = 5, Massage =6-7. May or may not repeat at some point but it's a bit of a drive for me. Was there for 65 minutes total. .7+.4
It may well be Simply Intimidation. The facts are as I stated them. I never said I thought it was legal. In fact I suggested just the opposite but disclosed that I am not an attorney. Partially for the reasons you speak of it will go unchallenged. I personally feel that is unfortunate but completely understand why most if not all of these owners will not spend the money to have themselves properly represented. Moving forward it may well be another tactic along with town specific regulations to control or change the Bodywork businesses.
[QUOTE=HighAmperage; 1875562]What happened in Bedford, if it really happened as described, was patently illegal. The police don't have the power to terminate a contract between two parties. Only a court of law can do that, and then, only with difficulty. No, this is a classic example of good old fashioned civil extortion. LEO shows up and tells the AMP to cease and desist and then trots on over to the landlord and says, if you don't forget all about that lease we'll charge you as an accessory to running a house if ill reputation. Even if the landlord doesn't roll over, his tenant has flown the coop, and the damage is done. Uncle Leo knows there is no Civil Liberties Union for AMPs, so no one with any knowledge or power is going to come to their rescue, no matter wronged they were. It's a technique that's nearly as old as the world's oldest profession itself.
I posted some time ago warning about the regs taking effect on Nov 1 and that it's going to virtually end the AMP as we know it here. This is all being driven from the top. I think old Mahthah hasn't had an orgasm in at least twenty years, if ever, and so, can't understand why anyone else would want to. People like that feel that sexuality is something that needs to be suppressed because of fear of that which they don't understand. The same thing happened with professor what's her name down in Rhode Island that got the law changed. I'm sure she never had an orgasm so just wanted to keep hubby home at night. By the way, have you ever noticed that you never see a smokin' hot advocate for these "reforms"? Hmmm, I wonder why that is.
Are the bad things that happen in the trade? Sure there are, and that needs to be addressed. But there are many more hard working providers that have simply chosen to make a living this way. And now they can't. Everybody loses.[/QUOTE]
Mr Rogers maybe you have not been off your show long enough and played in this hobby for a while. To clarify once and for all-Massage is licensed by the state of Mass and Bodywork is NOT. BUT there are a limited few towns that have some town specific controls related to bodywork. Arlington MA like most has had no specific controls for Bodywork but that is going to change as of this coming November. They will not require the extensive documented school hours that massage license requires but rather will be verifying several things like criminal records for workers at the establishment and citizenship or green card status etc. There is more but you get the idea. What matters to you is this may be a sign of changing times along with what happened in Bedford last week.
[QUOTE=MrRogers; 1875821]What new regs starting this Nov are you referring to? As this article states, there is a loophole in the current Mass massage law that allows shops to avoid licensing requirements by simply not using the title "Massage" and instead something else like "Bodywork" in naming their business.
[url]http://www.patriotledger.com/news/cops_and_courts/x1968257701/Sex-trade-finds-a-new-way-into-the-suburbs?zc_p=0[/url][/QUOTE]
I guess opening up bodywork near pizza places is the new norm. Stopped by this place in wey, place is being redone inside, had all indications of an AMP, just uses the storefront as you know what. Got the lady, probably 5'5, nice chest, thin frame, yes, obviously older with youthful body. Very nice oil based massage, worthy of house fee. The massage is much better than most, above average. Damage 40/50. She wanted 60, but coughed up 50 for probably not tipping the last ten or so massage ladies. I think there is more to be had there, didn't inquire that far though, will return.
Every time I read a Dh post I feel like it's something I would have written.
Here are two of the upcoming requirements for Arlington:
The applicant shall be able to communicate effectively in English.
The applicant shall provide satisfactory evidence of being appropriately certified in.
Accordance with Section 3 'Certification'.
Certification shall mean successful completion of the most current requirements of the American.
Organization for Bodywork Therapies of Asia (AOBTAŽ) , National Certification Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine (NCCAOM) , American Reflexology Certification Board, or other national professional membership organization recognized by the Institute for Credentialing Excellence, or its accrediting body, that provides a certification or credential.
Unless they already possess a massage license they're supposed to be certified by one of the above organizations. Most girls aren't going to get certified. They do massage because they feel it's a no-brainer job that pays well.
As for the police going in and shutting down the places, the owners won't fight it because they're not going to want to go through the trouble, expense or publicity of fighting it. They like this business because it's a cash business and they don't report all the cash. They're not going to sue for lost income. They could sue for harrassment but that again would involve expense and publicity. And I'd be surprised if a lawyer would want to represent them pro-bono. Unless a pro boner is in it for them.
[QUOTE=Dh1610;1876521]Mr Rogers maybe you have not been off your show long enough and played in this hobby for a while. To clarify once and for all-Massage is licensed by the state of Mass and Bodywork is NOT. BUT there are a limited few towns that have some town specific controls related to bodywork. Arlington MA like most has had no specific controls for Bodywork but that is going to change as of this coming November. They will not require the extensive documented school hours that massage license requires but rather will be verifying several things like criminal records for workers at the establishment and citizenship or green card status etc. There is more but you get the idea. What matters to you is this may be a sign of changing times along with what happened in Bedford last week.[/QUOTE]
Sure sounds like these proprietors just need to get together and have some legal advocate mediate with the town. I don't know all the facts but, it seem very sudden that this occured without any legal basis. Certainly, the town may refuse and then the owners can seek injunctive relief in the courts which means for the town to stop interfering with the owners right to conduct a business. For the record, I am NOT an attorney but have experience in tax law.
[QUOTE=MongerExpert;1876603]I guess opening up bodywork near pizza places is the new norm. Stopped by this place in wey, place is being redone inside, had all indications of an AMP, just uses the storefront as you know what. Got the lady, probably 5'5, nice chest, thin frame, yes, obviously older with youthful body. Very nice oil based massage, worthy of house fee. The massage is much better than most, above average. Damage 40/50. She wanted 60, but coughed up 50 for probably not tipping the last ten or so massage ladies. I think there is more to be had there, didn't inquire that far though, will return.[/QUOTE]No sign or anything but a neon open light in the blacked out window, I was told I'd get more next time. Checked out 409 braintree, real good looking asian lady, I wanted to try but was pressed for time, mabey later. Checked to see what was in jolins in braintree, since sabrina left I've not been there. But I meet with tory. Very nice looking. She gave a short massage, then showed me that she was no ladyboy. She finished me up really well. Then told me its been slow an she needs the money. But who knows any way I staggered out happy with my water.
[QUOTE=Ledger6969;1876689]Sure sounds like these proprietors just need to get together and have some legal advocate mediate with the town. I don't know all the facts but, it seem very sudden that this occured without any legal basis. Certainly, the town may refuse and then the owners can seek injunctive relief in the courts which means for the town to stop interfering with the owners right to conduct a business. For the record, I am NOT an attorney but have experience in tax law.[/QUOTE]It's not like 80s movies where they band together to fight the man. While they know of each other it's doubtful they get together at Dunks every morning for coffee to discuss the state of affairs in the industry. They're under the radar businesses. Think about it. Do you get out of your car and scream out what you're about to do as you walk through their front doors? Easier to pull up stakes and move on.
You are right. I just scream when they do it. Hope you do too!
[QUOTE=Biggus Bishus;1876872]It's not like 80s movies where they band together to fight the man. While they know of each other it's doubtful they get together at Dunks every morning for coffee to discuss the state of affairs in the industry. They're under the radar businesses. Think about it. Do you get out of your car and scream out what you're about to do as you walk through their front doors? Easier to pull up stakes and move on.[/QUOTE]
This is nothing more than snob zoning. Certain towns don't want certain types of establishments in their borders. Other towns might follow suit, but I'm betting the bigger cash strapped towns will do nothing and most of the spas will just relocate to those places. Fighting it would be next to impossible. Could you imagine that hearing being televised on the local cable show? Myself I try to avoid frequenting places very close to where I live for obvious reasons. The storefront spa is getting to the point where its not feasible anymore. I think the next marketing step will be the apartment style that NYC has all over the place.