[QUOTE=Nikos2] Green. I am so happy that place got busted.[/QUOTE]Jesus Chrysler!
Never ever say that! Your stock just dropped through the floor with me.
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[QUOTE=Nikos2] Green. I am so happy that place got busted.[/QUOTE]Jesus Chrysler!
Never ever say that! Your stock just dropped through the floor with me.
[QUOTE=Nikos2]I am so happy that place got busted. .[/QUOTE]
Please go a way and never return. This hobby does not need people who get happy when a place gets closed.
This hobby has enough challenges, and people in it should not be happy in any way that a place gets closed down.
As a 1st post on the site and as a contribution in general, it was not worthy of posting. It says nothing useful, nothing insightful, nothing that contributes to the purpose of this forum.
So either do better or disappear, I vote for disappear we have enough bad people in this hobby already bringing it down, we do not need anyone who is happy a place was closed.
/end rant
Damn, I should just said I had a bad OPINION about Green and didn't like the place. I didn't mean to add salt on the wound for those people that actually like the place. I have posted on this board probably once every 3 months. I guess it doesn't really matter because half of the material on this board is about tipping anyway.
Let me ask you guys? How many of you have been to a Russian massage parlor they are not in Virginia per say? However, they are a dime of dozen in Brooklyn. If you go to Brighton Beach they are all over the place. I will just leave it at that. You guys keep talking about tips, most of the crap here is useless anyway. The panty job did happen.
[QUOTE=Nikos2]I just got back from a rather good finish. My spot is close to Green. I am so happy that place got busted. Green was was a good place in the early days but then it then like the other establishments it got careless greedy and simply sloppy The quality sufferred and I simply stopped going. My new spot no table shower but everything else seems to make up for that. Best of all they gave me a good old fashion panty job to end the session.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure he is complete wrong. Before Green, it was Angel Therapy, which was a relatively quiet place. When Green took over, they started to offer FS, first at a reasonable price. Then, they got really busy, and begun to upsell like no tomorrow. Sloppy and dirty then follow. As greed feeds greed, it was a matter of time to go bust. Should one be happy about its bust? That is a totally different thing.
You and Nikos2 better watch out for what you complain about. You are now complaining about costs and upselling, you will be branded a cheapskate by the communists on this board.
Stop whinning and pay what is demanded of you. No matter how bad the service is just say it was worth it and the grandmamasan did a good job!
[QUOTE=MassLover]I am not sure he is complete wrong. Before Green, it was Angel Therapy, which was a relatively quiet place. When Green took over, they started to offer FS, first at a reasonable price. Then, they got really busy, and begun to upsell like no tomorrow. Sloppy and dirty then follow. As greed feeds greed, it was a matter of time to go bust. Should one be happy about its bust? That is a totally different thing.[/QUOTE]
Visited Blue again yesterday. Another truly GREAT session!!
Go see for yourself!
JJ
[QUOTE=Nikos2] I have posted on this board probably once every 3 months.
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Actually if you look at that little number under your user name it says you have posted exactly 2 times. Not once every three months.
Both of those have been in the past 24 hours.
[QUOTE=Justforme]You and Nikos2 better watch out for what you complain about. You are now complaining about costs and upselling, you will be branded a cheapskate by the communists on this board.
Stop whinning and pay what is demanded of you. No matter how bad the service is just say it was worth it and the grandmamasan did a good job![/QUOTE]
No one said pay what is demanded of you. We just keep telling you all to stop bitching about the 40s something providers in this market when all you are willing to give up is $ for FS.
If you want young and attractive, go to some other markets and realize those hotties get $.4 You may not like it but that is the economics of it. Young and hot can make more money then older and average every day of the week and twice on Sunday. They will go where people will pay it. Period.
So as long anyone's budget for their FS experience is locked down at $, they need to STFU about quality. That is all.
[QUOTE=Nikos2]I just got back from a rather good finish. My spot is close to Green. I am so happy that place got busted. Green was was a good place in the early days but then it then like the other establishments it got careless greedy and simply sloppy The quality sufferred and I simply stopped going. My new spot no table shower but everything else seems to make up for that. Best of all they gave me a good old fashion panty job to end the session.[/QUOTE]Bird Droppings back already?
[QUOTE=Justforme]
Stop whinning and pay what is demanded of you. No matter how bad the service is just say it was worth it and the grandmamasan did a good job![/QUOTE]
What?
Are we talking about commercial sex or making love with wife or girl friend?
PLEASE!
STFU ABOUT PRICING!!! Why do we have to keep chewing on this worthless subject?
LET IT GO!!
Get back to the REASON we are here and quit WASTING time and bandwidth on useless crap!
We have taken a great forum and tore it down to where it is nothing more than a petty pissing contest!
Knock it off and get back on track!
SHEESH!!!!
JJ
I have not posted before but have lurked a long time here, I will start posting about my experiences in the DC area. I do agree with Sleazebum that the reason why we all read[ this forum is to exchange information about AMPS, not to flame each other. Can we focus on that?
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]PLEASE!
STFU ABOUT PRICING!!! Why do we have to keep chewing on this worthless subject?
LET IT GO!!
Get back to the REASON we are here and quit WASTING time and bandwidth on useless crap!
We have taken a great forum and tore it down to where it is nothing more than a petty pissing contest!
Knock it off and get back on track!
SHEESH!!!!
JJ[/QUOTE]
There must be 4 AMPs on this road. Any one that has the better girls? I know,. That's relative. Younger maybe, but frisky? All of the CL ads have the same pics these days, young thin korean models. Appreciate any feedback. Also, looks like Papaya changed it's name, or has two names? Any reviews from there?
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]Get back to the REASON we are here and quit WASTING time and bandwidth on useless crap!
[/QUOTE]
Pricing and quality are EXACTLY the information that is SUPPOSED to be exchanged on this site.
Your last review of Blue was 1 line and pretty much useless. If this is what reviews around here amount to, that is far more harmful to the survival of this site then honest discussions about price effecting quality.
Since you are on the side that disagrees you want the discussion to end, that is not a discussion that is someone saying "I will say my opinion, but when it comes time to hear a different opinion, I won't listen or I will turn away or ask that the discussion be ended."
If you can't participate in the discussion and hear all sides, then just do not participate, if you want to change the topic and attention to something else, then write a good quality detailed review that will mean something to the members of this forum.
But you are 100% wrong if you think discussions about tipping and quality and how tipping effects quality do not belong on this site. They absolutely are what this site is about.
[QUOTE=Volvos40]There must be 4 AMPs on this road. Any one that has the better girls? I know,. That's relative. Younger maybe, but frisky? All of the CL ads have the same pics these days, young thin korean models. Appreciate any feedback. Also, looks like Papaya changed it's name, or has two names? Any reviews from there?[/QUOTE]it's been a long while since I've gone there. Probably 2005 or so. There were two at the time. Industrial place that's better on Weekend not in the middle of the week day.
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]PLEASE!
STFU ABOUT PRICING!!! Why do we have to keep chewing on this worthless subject?
LET IT GO!!
Get back to the REASON we are here and quit WASTING time and bandwidth on useless crap!
We have taken a great forum and tore it down to where it is nothing more than a petty pissing contest!
Knock it off and get back on track!
SHEESH!!!!
JJ[/QUOTE]
Enough. Seriously, if you do not know what to tip, PM a senior or three who seem to know.
I need to get back to NSP.........
I went back to K Accupressure and saw Yumi. Yumi is a mid 30s korean girl with generous breasts and hips, but generally attractive below the waist. I put a hundred dollar bill on top of my clothes but underneath my cell phone. Standard TS in the mildew-strung room that K has had for longer than some of you have been alive. Went back to the room for a brief and generally bad massage. She had strong hands which was kind of good as she went up and down the pressure points on my spine. But overall, she's no masseuse. Not more than 15 minutes later (I had paid for an hour), the lights went down, the light touches happened, and. Here's the surprise. Her shirt was off and she was rubbing my ass and lower back with her titties routines. She then got on top of me fully an whispered into my ear, "what kind of service today? " I answered, "full service". She said something I didn't understand, but it was interrogative, so I answered, "everything".
Then she got up and said, "you take care of me first", which was a new one for me. So I got off the table, handed her the hundred dollar bill plus the 20 in change from the 80 dollar house charge, and the fun began. She took off all her clothes, turned the lights down, and began to give me a BBBJ. I told her there was plenty of time left, so let's take it slow. I'm not going to share the rest of what happened (my sex life, not yours), but she was very willing to do whatever I wanted, and I enjoyed the full service my pleasant attitude and 120 greenbacks bought.
All-in-all, a wonderful, reenergizing way to start the weekend!
Best regards,
Banker Boy
[QUOTE=Dr Bombay]Bird Droppings back already?[/QUOTE]Don't know what that means. But I am greek [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].
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[QUOTE=Banker Boy]I went back to K Accupressure and saw Yumi.
If you don't know what to tip and you don't know how to use the search button, then you need to throw your money away. [QUOTE=Ginger Man]Enough. Seriously, if you do not know what to tip, PM a senior or three who seem to know.
I need to get back to NSP.........[/QUOTE]
nuff said
JJ
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Pricing and quality are EXACTLY the information that is SUPPOSED to be exchanged on this site.
Your last review of Blue was 1 line and pretty much useless. If this is what reviews around here amount to, that is far more harmful to the survival of this site then honest discussions about price effecting quality.
Since you are on the side that disagrees you want the discussion to end, that is not a discussion that is someone saying "I will say my opinion, but when it comes time to hear a different opinion, I won't listen or I will turn away or ask that the discussion be ended."
If you can't participate in the discussion and hear all sides, then just do not participate, if you want to change the topic and attention to something else, then write a good quality detailed review that will mean something to the members of this forum.
But you are 100% wrong if you think discussions about tipping and quality and how tipping effects quality do not belong on this site. They absolutely are what this site is about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tanithmagna]I have not posted before but have lurked a long time here, I will start posting about my experiences in the DC area. I do agree with Sleazebum that the reason why we all read[ this forum is to exchange information about AMPs, not to flame each other. Can we focus on that?[/QUOTE]I can totally relate to DC. During the Clinton years I think DC had its own AMP bubble! Seriously everywhere you went there where AMPs. I remember, two right above a strip club and if those where busy then just turn the corner onto Connecticut there was one above a Tattoo Parlor. I also remember get drunk at an Eye Street bar and go upstairs to get taken care. However, the best where all near Ford Theater. One was above a Popeye's place stunk like a dead animal when climbing the stairwell. My favorite place was diagonal from that one above a souvenir store. I swear I lived there for 3 summers. The girls were all in their 20's and they took good care of you. I know after 9/11 the party ended. Aschcroft closed all of them down due to the terrorist human trafficking risk. But it was a great time while it lasted. PM let me know if things are hoping again.
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]nuff said
JJ[/QUOTE]If I proved your point then you must have changed your position.
Good for you for having an open mind and reversing your thoughts on the subject and accepting that quality is impacted amount the market is willing to pay.
[QUOTE=Nikos2] Aschcroft closed all of them down due to the terrorist human trafficking risk..[/QUOTE]I am sure like you, no one else knows what you are talking about either.
Spas are closed by local authorities, not federal.
I know this bust was reported here, but this story mentions how this board was used in the investigation:
[url]http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article/police_bust_sterling_massage_parlor747/[/url]
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]I am sure like you, no one else knows what you are talking about either.
Spas are closed by local authorities, not federal.[/QUOTE]You're just jaded because you missed out on all the fun. Also, you are just parsing words.
Trafficking that involves interstate commerce which is a federal offense. The laws regarding the spa fall under local jurisidiction. You can parse it anyway you want.
If the feds are pursuing a federal case they will coordinate with the local authorities to arrest the suspects which effectively will means the spa will be shutdown.
If the spa is closed by the local authorities and they suspect human trafficking they will appoint the case to the federal government.
After 9/11 they raided most of the spas in DC. The federal government was cracking down. What's next the chicken or the egg?
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]I am sure like you, no one else knows what you are talking about either.
Spas are closed by local authorities, not federal.[/QUOTE]You're just jaded because you missed out on all the fun. Also, you are just parsing words.
Trafficking that involves interstate commerce which is a federal offense. The laws regarding the spa fall under local jurisidiction. You can parse it anyway you want.
If the feds are pursuing a federal case they will coordinate with the local authorities to arrest the suspects which effectively will means the spa will be shutdown.
If the spa is closed by the local authorities and they suspect human trafficking they will appoint the case to the federal government.
After 9/11 they raided most of the spas in DC. The federal government was cracking down. What's next the chicken or the egg?
You, Sir, have proven yourself to be unworthy of further comment. My withdrawing from the discussion has nothing to do with who may have "won" or "lost" the discussion. I always have and always will pay exactly what I want to pay for the services I get and I can only assume that you will do the same.
So, to prevent you from looking more like a jackass I strongly suggest you drop the subject.
FINALLY and I do mean FINALLY - you are wrong in your views and I will not now, nor probably EVER, weaken to accept your opinion as anything near worthy of further discussion.
This is my FINAL WORD on this subject and once again I ask everyone to drop all the useless crap and get this forum back on point.
For YOU personally - do NOT waste my or anyone else's time with your mindless attack on me again.
I will not respond to any more of your garbage and if you insist on spewing any more of it you will simply prove your unworthiness more.
Now go out and see one of the providers! It will make you feel so much better!
JJ
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]If I proved your point then you must have changed your position.
Good for you for having an open mind and reversing your thoughts on the subject and accepting that quality is impacted amount the market is willing to pay.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]I am sure like you, no one else knows what you are talking about either.
Spas are closed by local authorities, not federal.[/QUOTE]Obviously you don't know the law. I know you are parsing words trying to make yourself appear smarter than you are.
Interstate commerce of any kind falls under federal jurisdiction. Human trafficking, drug trafficking is a federal offense. Traffickers that facilitate this activity through a spa will be charged in a federal court.
That said breaking state and local laws is separate from federal offense. If you commit murder, prostitution or running a bawdy place you are breaking local and state laws.
What matters is who is leading the investigation. If the feds are leading the investigation then they will coordinate with local enforcement to arrest the traffickers for federal crimes. Simultaneously, local officials will charge them for local violations effectively shutting the AMP down.
On the flip side if the state and local authorities lead the investigation and find violations of human trafficking they will refer the case to the feds and charge them with local violations as well
After 9/11 the feds shutdown a lot of AMPs in DC. The terrorist/human trafficking risk was on the radar screen. They were looking for human traffickers which is a federal offense and led the raids
I guess maybe you're just too young or just full of it. But at it's peak there were AMPs even in Bethesda and Silver Spring. I also forgot to mention the AMPs near MCI center and the hookers on M street.
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]You, Sir, have proven yourself to be unworthy of further comment. My withdrawing from the discussion has nothing to do with who may have "won" or "lost" the discussion. I always have and always will pay exactly what I want to pay for the services I get and I can only assume that you will do the same.
So, to prevent you from looking more like a jackass I strongly suggest you drop the subject.
FINALLY and I do mean FINALLY - you are wrong in your views and I will not now, nor probably EVER, weaken to accept your opinion as anything near worthy of further discussion.
This is my FINAL WORD on this subject and once again I ask everyone to drop all the useless crap and get this forum back on point.
For YOU personally - do NOT waste my or anyone else's time with your mindless attack on me again.
I will not respond to any more of your garbage and if you insist on spewing any more of it you will simply prove your unworthiness more.
Now go out and see one of the providers! It will make you feel so much better!
JJ[/QUOTE]
Last word I doubt it.
I never said anyone WON Or LOST, it was a discussion not a contest or arguement if you took it that way, that is your problem. You can't win or lose discussions. If anyone looks like anything it would be you, good on you if you drop the subject.
I am not wrong in my views that is just your opinion, and frankly it does not matter what you think. But you said "I proved your point" so that implied you thought pricing affects quality. If you didn't think that why say "You proved my point".
Again useless crap would be 1 or 2 line reviews, not discussions on price or quality or both. That is the point of this forum.
Who are you to instruct anyone to post or not to post.
I never attacked you, however you stating that I spew garbage is an attack.
You are taking a discussion about tip pricing and quality too personally, never once did I say anything personal about you. I replied respectfully to your position. You claiming to be attacked does not make it true.
If I am "unworthy" of a reply and what I post here is "mindless", there should be no reason for you to read or respond. My reply is to correct all the incorrect things your post accuses me of doing which never happened.
Again discussions are not competitions to be won or lost if you enter a discusssion thinking that they can be won or lost you have entered for the wrong reason. In the future if what you are posting is in effort to "win" something, stop, think it over and refrain.
No one here is competing with you or anyone else. The only thing you can win on the internet is the right to be wrong, you are on track for that prize by claiming to be attacked when no such thing has happened to you.
I just visited another one of our favorites her in NoVa and she was simply amazing!!!
Trusted fellas can PM for details if you like.
Have fun and be safe!!
JJ
[QUOTE=Jimmy Luv]I know this bust was reported here, but this story mentions how this board was used in the investigation:
[url]http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article/police_bust_sterling_massage_parlor747/[/url][/QUOTE]
What a fucking crock.
If what they're doing is so bad, why the fuck would they LET a guy receive a handjob? That's fucking retarded.
Furthermore, he says all the girls are 18-25, but he noticed one that looked 16... But they all turned out to be in their 40's with one being in her 30's.
And it looks like some idiot on this board decided he didn't like Green and sent the LE information about the place. Was it Nikos?
Bunch of dumbasses all around.
[QUOTE=Cranberries]
And it looks like some idiot on this board decided he didn't like Green and sent the LE information about the place. Was it Nikos? [/QUOTE]
It could just as easily been a nearby business or resident who noticed the traffic going to the place and decided to investigate.
So many times people have been very direct with getting FS at an AMP I liked. Without fail they have all been shut down within about 6-9 months. I always stop going once someone is that direct about it and it is a good thing I do. I'm sure I saved myself from being caught up in a raid. Some people on this board will never learn.
OK, I've seen enough small breasts lately, someone tell me where some nice C cups are. No, not looking for FS, at all, just nice breasts. Oh, in NOVA.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Jimmy Luv]I know this bust was reported here, but this story mentions how this board was used in the investigation:
[url]http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article/police_bust_sterling_massage_parlor747/[/url][/QUOTE]This is very curious indeed. It's not like Green Therapy discussion in USASG comes up on the first page of Google or anything, so it's likely someone who frequents this board for fun turned them in.
On a separate point, I always wondered why some members have to go in such gory details about their visits. Seems to me a simple "standard NoVA"/"beyond standard NoVA" would do the trick.
[QUOTE=Ginger Man]Enough. Seriously, if you do not know what to tip, PM a senior or three who seem to know.
I need to get back to NSP.[/QUOTE]really, and the senior members actually give honest answers?
I would say they would be more concerned to respond to PMs from random new folks.
[QUOTE=Guitarman1]It could just as easily been a nearby business or resident who noticed the traffic going to the place and decided to investigate.
So many times people have been very direct with getting FS at an AMP I liked. Without fail they have all been shut down within about 6-9 months. I always stop going once someone is that direct about it and it is a good thing I do. I'm sure I saved myself from being caught up in a raid. Some people on this board will never learn.[/QUOTE]That's my motto. I found out the hard way some people here just don't care if a place gets busted. They'll just move on to the next place. Just check the usual explicit reporters. They just don't care and they brag about it.
Also, I doubt the law reveals every source that it uses. They have probably used the services at Green for the last 6 months, but don't want to have to say that in court.
[QUOTE]According to the affidavit, a complaint was filed through Loudoun Crime Solvers Nov. 5, 2009. The complaint said that a UPS delivery person who was taking a package to the dentist office next door accidentally walked into Green Therapy and saw a lady “with barely any clothes on.”
The Sheriff’s Office set up surveillance outside of Green Therapy and interviewed several men who came out about what type of services they received.
In December and January, the Sheriff’s Office got two anonymous letters detailing posts on the websites USA Sex Guide and Erotic MP that detailed the services at Green Therapy.
On March 30, the Sheriff’s Office sent a confidential informant into Green Therapy and instructed him not to request anything more than a basic massage, but if the masseuse offered to stimulate his genital area with her hands, he could accept.
After being in Green Therapy for about an hour, the confidential informant reported back that his masseuse told him most of the women who worked at the business were from 18 to 25 years old; however, he noticed a girl who looked 15 or 16. He said all were Korean.
[/QUOTE]
Seems like thier informant was wrong on almost all of his information. None of them were 18-25, and at least 2 of them were probably Chinese from the names in the article.
A UPS worker filed a complaint? Am I alone thinking it was probably a female ups driver? Do most straight men file complaints at seeing nearly naked ladies?
Since their informant gave false information, how do we really know he was offered FS and declined?
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]A UPS worker filed a complaint? Am I alone thinking it was probably a female ups driver? Do most straight men file complaints at seeing nearly naked ladies?[/QUOTE]Since you are still sore on Green. As I said they got sloppy. Why don't you blame the mamasan for not doing her her job. You just don't let people walk thru the door when people are walking around half naked. After all they were not running a 100% legit business. Also, you contributed to their demise by posting their name on this board to. You are better off posting your useless Tip pricing model crap. Funny trying to parse a freaking article.
Gameover
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]A UPS worker filed a complaint? Am I alone thinking it was probably a female ups driver? Do most straight men file complaints at seeing nearly naked ladies?[/QUOTE]Virginia is a bible state. Think Liberty University, its in Virginia, guy could have been a Jesus freak! I can't believe you are wasting your time on mindless speculation. Does it really matter?
Speculate on this. UPS, a fortune 500 corporation, does not have a policy in place for employees to report suspicious activities they encounter during a delivery of a package? Ups delivery guy could told his supervisor who told the cops end of story. Does it matter! Place is closed.