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[QUOTE=Pelorus;4743348]Reminiscing: Jenna who loved to go to Costa Rica; Kathryn from Climax; Cali from AA; Samara, Brooke Meadows, ZCat, & Up-North-Blondie at the Schvitz; Jessica's impromptu dance at Omar's in Lansing; Beauty who was so energetic; Scorp's meet & greets. Dozens more where this old geezer's memory fades. Those were great times![/QUOTE]Scorps M&Gs. Those were always fun times.
Remember Bobbi, Amber / Laurie, Savanah, L4 F, Kelly, Cheyenne.
[QUOTE=MrLunta;4744571]Scorps M&Gs. Those were always fun times.
Remember Bobbi, Amber / Laurie, Savanah, L4 F, Kelly, Cheyenne.[/QUOTE]You fellas are making me tear up a bit. The good old days of Scorps are gone for good! Chokes me up to talk about it.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;4744612]You fellas are making me tear up a bit. The good old days of Scorps are gone for good! Chokes me up to talk about it.[/QUOTE]Bobbi and Laurie almost broke me back in the day. They were just genuinely sweet and a joy to be with but that was definitely a LONG time ago. We're showing our ages.
Love it when this topic comes up. Brings back some really good memories for the most part. UrFantasy. Was she the thin brunette with an in call off Kalamazoo? If so, good times! My ATF was UrSweetAddiction. You had to be very patient with her, if you were, she was very accommodating. Definitely felt like the world was just you and her. As for Heather kitten, super excited to get the chance to meet her in Kalamazoo one day. I drove from Holland all the way there and during our session the cover came off inside her. She flipped out yelled at me, said I did it on purpose. She then said that she would have to cancel her whole trip and go back home to see her doctor to make sure she was OK. I felt so bad until I saw the next day she was still posting for appointments in Kalamazoo. Try to rectify things with her but she would have none of it. Definitely a good looking woman gone too soon.
[QUOTE=LaVick;4743662]I know she is still around just a much different life. She got married and now does other things.[/QUOTE]I have never been happier to be wrong. That is good to hear. I must have understood it to be her when it was actually her friend (Brooke).
My apologies for spreading misinformation.
With everyone home these days I am sure there is a lot of reminiscing going on.
I boke my provider cherry with a girl from Scorps I do not remember her name. Part of her provider name was________4 You. I was still really new to all this and part way through the appointment she stopped and called her girl friend to come in from the car and so my first appointemnt was a MFF. I was a bit overwelmed. I think part of it was I was not getting her off and so she called her girfriend in to help with that.
I remember multiple torrid times with Pet and then her daughter. Also Alex who used to be my go to for manscaping and a quick BBBJ.
Have fun and be safe.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;4744612]You fellas are making me tear up a bit. The good old days of Scorps are gone for good! Chokes me up to talk about it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spartan191;4744766]With everyone home these days I am sure there is a lot of reminiscing going on.
I boke my provider cherry with a girl from Scorps I do not remember her name. Part of her provider name was________4 You. I was still really new to all this and part way through the appointment she stopped and called her girl friend to come in from the car and so my first appointemnt was a MFF. I was a bit overwelmed. I think part of it was I was not getting her off and so she called her girfriend in to help with that.
I remember multiple torrid times with Pet and then her daughter. Also Alex who used to be my go to for manscaping and a quick BBBJ.
Have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]Mercedes 4 you.
[QUOTE=Spartan191;4744766]With everyone home these days I am sure there is a lot of reminiscing going on.
I boke my provider cherry with a girl from Scorps I do not remember her name. Part of her provider name was________4 You. I was still really new to all this and part way through the appointment she stopped and called her girl friend to come in from the car and so my first appointemnt was a MFF. I was a bit overwelmed. I think part of it was I was not getting her off and so she called her girfriend in to help with that.
I remember multiple torrid times with Pet and then her daughter. Also Alex who used to be my go to for manscaping and a quick BBBJ.
Have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]Mercedes was a real beauty. Saw her several times. Pet was always alot of fun, also saw her with her daughter a couple times!! Sexy Asian Goddess was a real beauty too and I saw her dozens of times but the last few years in the hobby she got real greedy. She went from doing $50 massage w/HJ to then wanting (and getting from some suckers) $300-350 for FS.
[QUOTE=Spartan191;4744766]With everyone home these days I am sure there is a lot of reminiscing going on.
I boke my provider cherry with a girl from Scorps I do not remember her name. Part of her provider name was________4 You. I was still really new to all this and part way through the appointment she stopped and called her girl friend to come in from the car and so my first appointemnt was a MFF. I was a bit overwelmed. I think part of it was I was not getting her off and so she called her girfriend in to help with that.
I remember multiple torrid times with Pet and then her daughter. Also Alex who used to be my go to for manscaping and a quick BBBJ.
Have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]There was a Heather4 u as well petite little redhead, had some friends in the hobby with her as well, believe they moved down from Morely if memory serves. Made a couple videos with her, one of them with her friend as well, good times.
Benz- I have seen Mercedes4 You.
I just remembered that the lady I saw was Lady4 You. A mature lady who was on Scorps in SE MI.
I do not remember her partner except that she was BBW but they both put on quite a show while I was catching my breath.
Have fun and be safe.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4744857]Mercedes 4 you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mystry12;4743080]Urfantasy was fantastic. She had her own opinion; and pissed a lot of people off when she stated it, but she was really cool. Asian Dove was also incredible. Sexy Kris, Mi soon, Dirty Nikki from the east side was a nympho. Wow what memories. Sexy Samantha was freakin hot. petite Delight was great looking and a lot of fun also... though she did occasionally bring the drama to herself. So Many that I am forgetting names. Keep them coming guys. Hey anyone remember Torco? He was the man. Threw money around and had such incredible parties.[/QUOTE]Asian Dove was great. She was my first experience in the hobby. My second was her sister Sapphire. Kennedy (who is still around), Coco (also still in the biz) were regulars. Anyone remember the first GPS trio of Marisa Madison, Morgan and Eve? They were pricey but model gorgeous with skills to match.
Looking for a oriental provider anyone know of any.
I suppose I am the only one fining this interesting but recalling the past fun has been great. It made me realize I active I was at one time. Anyway, after racking my brain here are a few other providers some of you may remember:
Jazmin.
Jessica Star.
Skarlette (another GPS. But incredibly hot).
Mia.
SexiLexi.
Laura Lavender.
Pinkdiamond.
Maxxina.
Lilyhawthorne.
Miss Prestin.
Sensual Daya.
Paris.
Tawny's Dream.
It's already being mentioned in the escort section, but probably more appropriate over here.
But to put it simply, it's an advance payment on your 2021 return.
So basically, if you'll receive a thousand less next year because you were fronted the cash today.
All the money going out, and nothing being put back. Your money is worth less now.
[QUOTE=HollandGuy73;4745037]It's already being mentioned in the escort section, but probably more appropriate over here.
But to put it simply, it's an advance payment on your 2021 return.
So basically, if you'll receive a thousand less next year because you were fronted the cash today.
All the money going out, and nothing being put back. Your money is worth less now.[/QUOTE]Not true for most people. The stimulus check is a prepaid refundable credit for tax year 2020 (to be filed in 2021). It is a new credit that will reduce your 2020 liability if eligible. The only way that someone may have to pay it back is if they get a check based on their 2018 return (having not filed for 2019) and when they file for 2019 their income turns out to be above the threshold. The majority of people pay little to nothing in terms of income tax, even in a philosophical sense they won't be paying it back. Having just paid my quarterlies, I am a little bitter about my position in this ponzi scheme.
[QUOTE=WaltK;4745072]Not true for most people. The stimulus check is a prepaid refundable credit for tax year 2020 (to be filed in 2021). It is a new credit that will reduce your 2020 liability if eligible. The only way that someone may have to pay it back is if they get a check based on their 2018 return (having not filed for 2019) and when they file for 2019 their income turns out to be above the threshold. The majority of people pay little to nothing in terms of income tax, even in a philosophical sense they won't be paying it back. Having just paid my quarterlies, I am a little bitter about my position in this ponzi scheme.[/QUOTE]Walt is correct. Your not getting an advance on your next usual refund. You're getting an advance on a new tax credit added to your next tax filing. Its free money.
Hello all,
Hope everyone is staying safe. Has anyone has any luck on SA?
Seems expensive! Didn't know if it was worth the $ !
Pm if you can share any good experiences!
Thanks.
Duke.
[QUOTE=DukeWild69;4745205]Hello all,
Hope everyone is staying safe. Has anyone has any luck on SA?
Seems expensive! Didn't know if it was worth the $ !
Pm if you can share any good experiences!
Thanks.
Duke.[/QUOTE]I have had many great experiences.
Are there any reputable providers anymore? I see myself as a fair and down to earth guy but anytime I contact a provider I get cricket's then like 2 -5 hours later they finally decide to respond. I have had it happen twice now recently I contacted and setup a time and date and as soon as I contact them to confirm no response.
I had another provider agree to meet me and her rates were posted so I took what I thought I needed and when I got there she highballed me with 250 I said nothing and walked out. Seriously what is going on?
See my blog at the bottom of the Forum list here. You go back to the first couple posts I put a lot of newbie information there. To answer your question yes it's expensive. It's also time consuming but in some cases it is worth it.
[QUOTE=DukeWild69;4745205]Hello all,
Hope everyone is staying safe. Has anyone has any luck on SA?
Seems expensive! Didn't know if it was worth the $ !
Pm if you can share any good experiences!
Thanks.
Duke.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4745015]I suppose I am the only one fining this interesting but recalling the past fun has been great. It made me realize I active I was at one time. Anyway, after racking my brain here are a few other providers some of you may remember:
Jazmin.
Jessica Star.
Skarlette (another GPS. But incredibly hot).
Mia.
SexiLexi.
Laura Lavender.
Pinkdiamond..[/QUOTE]Jessica Star is still around, over in AA Detroit, goes by Jessi Jones now. A little pricier then when the boards were around, but with the lack of quality and professionalism around here, I think I'm going to spend some stimulus money, and get me a true escort. [URL]https://ann-arbor.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/leave-bulletproof-and-ready-to/754591767674[/URL].
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4745405]
I had another provider agree to meet me and her rates were posted so I took what I thought I needed and when I got there she highballed me with 250 I said nothing and walked out. Seriously what is going on?[/QUOTE]So who was this lady that did the highball deal with you.
How long do you all usually wait before moving on to someone else for a date? Typically I don't wait long and just assume they are busy. My time frame is usually pretty tight but then I end up not going with the lady I was really looking forward to and end up disappointed.
[QUOTE=Monger01;4745100]Walt is correct. Your not getting an advance on your next usual refund. You're getting an advance on a new tax credit added to your next tax filing. Its free money.[/QUOTE]Yes! This is correct! Where are people getting these wild ideas of it being something else?
From Floyd's Barber Shop?
[QUOTE]Hope everyone is staying safe. Has anyone has any luck on SA?
Seems expensive! Didn't know if it was worth the $ ![/QUOTE]Depends what you're looking for, as it's a mixed bag. Mostly young girls. Looking for a sugar daddy and not necessarily way-way older with no care for how he is on looks. BUT, YMMV. I've been on there for some years.
I've met girls who wanted to hang out like it's a care free dating site. But, in that case, they can't be out of your league on looks (which most are even to above-average Joes). I've met a few this way, but only 1 good looking who just turned 21 and had a thing for older guys my 'type' I guess, as I purely lucked out.
A few older gals are using it as more a secret site, post-divorce or still married. In this case, it's just the same as Adult Friend Finder, but guys who make $$ I guess gives it more value, I guess. I was hanging out with one of these (not good looking), and hooked up with 1 (good looking).
More common than the two above, which is are the minority (although not a super Small minority if you're a good looking guy & charming as some blogs have noted), are girls who aren't any different than ones you'll find on STG, but more picky and more on the UTR level. I've done this a couple of times, with a couple girls I never saw on STG.
The biggest % are girls like the one above, but are looking for a guy to "subscribe" to them. To not just see them once, but, say, twice a month (common). Pretty much an agreement & expectations off the bat. Some won't aim to do anything with you the first time you meet in person, but want to be convinced you're you and whether you're up for it. Others aren't set like that, but after a session, it's expected to get the ball rolling in that direction. I tried one girl this way early on. Hooked up a few times, but I didn't want to Continue it indefinitely, even though she obviously wanted to, so I backed away from this angle.
And there's a decent % of girls just looking for a guy to go out with them, talk on the phone, and him to give her $$. "Platonic" is their key word. Avoid those, obviously.
Bottom line is, it's worth the expensive monthly fee as a guy signing up, if you're willing to put a lot of time into it, talking with girls and setting up your profile well enough to make it look like you are above middle-class. Or roughly middle class if you're just looking for UTR 1-timer escorts. Younger guys who are nice looking, just dress well in your photos, and yeah, it's worth it if you put some effort into it. More options.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;4746044]Yes! This is correct! Where are people getting these wild ideas of it being something else?
From Floyd's Barber Shop?[/QUOTE]Unless Floyd's hot daughter is cumming in to give me a shave down there instead, I ain't walking in!
[QUOTE=Unadulterated;4745954]How long do you all usually wait before moving on to someone else for a date? Typically I don't wait long and just assume they are busy. My time frame is usually pretty tight but then I end up not going with the lady I was really looking forward to and end up disappointed.[/QUOTE]Whenever you have questions, you can usually find the answer here.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide[/URL]
What stage are you in at this point?
I usually text several girls asking if they're free on a certain day and timeframe. Some reply immediately. Others hours later. If I chose to wait for more replies I now try to confirm "today at 4 PM" or whatever. At that point I'll wait at most 30 mins for a reply.
Once past this stage I'm sending one last confirmation "on my way, be there in 20 mins. ".
If I don't get a reply in 15 mins I'm gone.
Even if she replies later. I reply back "sorry, you ghosted me at our set appt time so I saw someone else".
Reason is to set the tone moving forward that wasting my time and ghosting me = no cash for you.
When you hang out for a fucking hour past your date time like a pathetic douche and then still see her she now has zero respect for you and will do it again.
You have the $$ Do not handle yourself like your chasing a cheerleader in highschool and will be ever patient.
The next time you text her she is more likely not to ghost you. Some druggies still will. But some realize if they want your money they need to reply quickly at date time or no money. I just ran this exact scenario 2 weeks ago. The 2nd date set she was punctual and responsive. Lesson learned.
[QUOTE=Unadulterated;4745954]How long do you all usually wait before moving on to someone else for a date? Typically I don't wait long and just assume they are busy. My time frame is usually pretty tight but then I end up not going with the lady I was really looking forward to and end up disappointed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ServeTheCurve;4745814]Jessica Star is still around, over in AA Detroit, goes by Jessi Jones now. A little pricier then when the boards were around, but with the lack of quality and professionalism around here, I think I'm going to spend some stimulus money, and get me a true escort. [URL]https://ann-arbor.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/leave-bulletproof-and-ready-to/754591767674[/URL].[/QUOTE]Jess was great. She use to offer a video of your time together. Hot as hell. Saw her several times. The last was here in GR. She was offering a nuru massage and it was exactly like the videos you see on the porn sites. She got a room with a hot tub where you started (included a lot of action), warm nuru gel and gray plastic mattress on the floor. The shower afterwards was a blast in itself. Check out STC'c link and imagine that babe sliding up and down your body (and pole).
[QUOTE=Charlie441;4746637]Depends what you're looking for, as it's a mixed bag. Mostly young girls. Looking for a sugar daddy and not necessarily way-way older with no care for how he is on looks. BUT, YMMV. I've been on there for some years.
I've met girls who wanted to hang out like it's a care free dating site. But, in that case, they can't be out of your league on looks (which most are even to above-average Joes). I've met a few this way, but only 1 good looking who just turned 21 and had a thing for older guys my 'type' I guess, as I purely lucked out.
A few older gals are using it as more a secret site, post-divorce or still married. In this case, it's just the same as Adult Friend Finder, but guys who make $$ I guess gives it more value, I guess. I was hanging out with one of these (not good looking), and hooked up with 1 (good looking).
More common than the two above, which is are the minority (although not a super Small minority if you're a good looking guy & charming as some blogs have noted), are girls who aren't any different than ones you'll find on STG, but more picky and more on the UTR level. I've done this a couple of times, with a couple girls I never saw on STG.
The biggest % are girls like the one above, but are looking for a guy to "subscribe" to them. To not just see them once, but, say, twice a month (common). Pretty much an agreement & expectations off the bat. Some won't aim to do anything with you the first time you meet in person, but want to be convinced you're you and whether you're up for it. Others aren't set like that, but after a session, it's expected to get the ball rolling in that direction. I tried one girl this way early on. Hooked up a few times, but I didn't want to Continue it indefinitely, even though she obviously wanted to, so I backed away from this angle.
And there's a decent % of girls just looking for a guy to go out with them, talk on the phone, and him to give her $$. "Platonic" is their key word. Avoid those, obviously.
Bottom line is, it's worth the expensive monthly fee as a guy signing up, if you're willing to put a lot of time into it, talking with girls and setting up your profile well enough to make it look like you are above middle-class. Or roughly middle class if you're just looking for UTR 1-timer escorts. Younger guys who are nice looking, just dress well in your photos, and yeah, it's worth it if you put some effort into it. More options.
Unless Floyd's hot daughter is cumming in to give me a shave down there instead, I ain't walking in![/QUOTE]I mostly agree, Charlie. I've been on and off SB and SA for six years now. Presently seeing two weekly, one from each site. I generally prefer the 40+ ladies. And they can be very reasonable $-wise compared to STG ladies. Low volume gets my attention also. Both my regulars are only fucking me. Uh. I think. But it can take a lot of work to find the gems. Lotsa duds and liars.
[QUOTE=Monger01;4746730] ...
If I don't get a reply in 15 mins I'm gone.
Even if she replies later. I reply back "sorry, you ghosted me at our set appt time so I saw someone else".
Reason is to set the tone moving forward that wasting my time and ghosting me = no cash for you.
When you hang out for a fucking hour past your date time like a pathetic douche and then still see her she now has zero respect for you and will do it again...[/QUOTE]Well said Monger01. However if she does reply after an agreed upon appointment you can use that to negotiate. For example I might say I'm available RIGHT NOW but have $20 less of her donation because I spent it after she ghosted me while I had time to kill. It's also true: I only ever bring the enough cash I intend to spend. I'm still prepared to walk for all the same reasons as Monger01 listed, but I'm not above taking a discount if I can get it.
[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4747182]Well said Monger01. However if she does reply after an agreed upon appointment you can use that to negotiate. For example I might say I'm available RIGHT NOW but have $20 less of her donation because I spent it after she ghosted me while I had time to kill. It's also true: I only ever bring the enough cash I intend to spend. I'm still prepared to walk for all the same reasons as Monger01 listed, but I'm not above taking a discount if I can get it.[/QUOTE]I agree! I had been seeing a provider on a regular basis for almost three years. The last time she had me wait an hour and a half. The reason I waited was because I had driven a considerable distance. Being pressed for time, I could only do half the time we had agreed upon. Still, I left more than her usual charge for half an hour. Since then, she has ghosted me. Very rarely do you meet someone who has any idea what consideration means!
Hey guys I'm from the Rockford Belmont area, recently became non essential and rather not get stopped driving. If anyone knows a decent provider in my area pm me or message me on board. It would be greatly appreciated. I've texted a lot of providers but had no luck. Almost all are in Wyoming or south gr. As always stay safe and thanks.
[QUOTE=StevesMilin;4747007]I mostly agree, Charlie. I've been on and off SB and SA for six years now. Presently seeing two weekly, one from each site. I generally prefer the 40+ ladies. And they can be very reasonable $-wise compared to STG ladies. Low volume gets my attention also. Both my regulars are only fucking me. Uh. I think. But it can take a lot of work to find the gems. Lotsa duds and liars.[/QUOTE]I too have been on (and off) these sites for 5 to 6 years. I couldn't agree more with StevesMiln assessment. I have had 4 or 5 "arrangements" and they were all great and I believe we both got out more than we thought going in. More like FWB than pay to play. Takes more time to find the gem as well (but that too can be fun). If you are horny and just looking to get off then these sites are not your first choice. If you are the kind of monger who feels "I pay them to leave when we are though", then stick with STG.
[QUOTE=HighGuy1979;4747797]Hey guys I'm from the Rockford Belmont area, recently became non essential and rather not get stopped driving. If anyone knows a decent provider in my area pm me or message me on board. It would be greatly appreciated. I've texted a lot of providers but had no luck. Almost all are in Wyoming or south gr. As always stay safe and thanks.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth I have friends that live in my hood from all 3 branches of state, county sheriffs and local LE. They have all said the same thing in that they are not interested in pulling anyone over on suspicion of not being essential. Not saying it can't happen, just saying it's highly unlikely. They don't want to come in contact with the virus any more than anybody else.
[QUOTE=HighGuy1979;4747797]Hey guys I'm from the Rockford Belmont area, recently became non essential and rather not get stopped driving. If anyone knows a decent provider in my area pm me or message me on board. It would be greatly appreciated. I've texted a lot of providers but had no luck. Almost all are in Wyoming or south gr. As always stay safe and thanks.[/QUOTE]Even if they suspect you are in violation you can't be stopped for just driving. You would have to do something else that is a moving violation or have equipment failure. So do the speed limit, signal all turns, don't tailgate (you should never tailgate anyway) make sure all your lights are working and you don't have a door falling off. If you are stopped you need to have a reasonable reason because they will ask what your destination and what was the business you had to conduct.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4747848]I too have been on (and off) these sites for 5 to 6 years. I couldn't agree more with StevesMiln assessment. I have had 4 or 5 "arrangements" and they were all great and I believe we both got out more than we thought going in. More like FWB than pay to play. Takes more time to find the gem as well (but that too can be fun). If you are horny and just looking to get off then these sites are not your first choice. If you are the kind of monger who feels "I pay them to leave when we are though", then stick with STG[/QUOTE]What other sites sre out there besides stg.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4747848]I too have been on (and off) these sites for 5 to 6 years. I couldn't agree more with StevesMiln assessment. I have had 4 or 5 "arrangements" and they were all great and I believe we both got out more than we thought going in. More like FWB than pay to play. Takes more time to find the gem as well (but that too can be fun). If you are horny and just looking to get off then these sites are not your first choice. If you are the kind of monger who feels "I pay them to leave when we are though", then stick with STG[/QUOTE]What is SA and SB.
[QUOTE=StevesMilin;4747007]I mostly agree, Charlie. I've been on and off SB and SA for six years now. Presently seeing two weekly, one from each site. I generally prefer the 40+ ladies. And they can be very reasonable $-wise compared to STG ladies. Low volume gets my attention also. Both my regulars are only fucking me. Uh. I think. But it can take a lot of work to find the gems. Lotsa duds and liars.[/QUOTE]On SA, not too many who close to 40 and older. But one of the hotter ones was probably about 50. Fake chest but really good, cute face. Basically like Adult Friend Finder dating, in a sense. I think it's more of a "real" experience when you're meating up with a gal who's closer to your age range and on the same wavelength.
Personally, I take a multi-faceted approach when active on there. But I won't waste my time with young (or old) gals expressing "I want a sugar daddy" and role-playing that way. Not just a turn-off, but just, well, weird. A more relaxed & more "real" feel to it is what draws a guy to it. But yeah, you have to sift thru the crap to find it.
[QUOTE]If you are stopped you need to have a reasonable reason because they will ask what your destination and what was the business you had to conduct.[/QUOTE]That's easy, though. You're toilet-paper hunting. Figured at dark it may be an open opportunity. Checking out gas stations / convenience stores, as you'll settle for just a couple rolls.
[QUOTE=WanToBe;4748436]What is SA and SB.[/QUOTE]SA = Seeking Arrangement.
SB = Sugar Babies. Aka Sugar Daddies.
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Charlie441;4748622]On SA, not too many who close to 40 and older. But one of the hotter ones was probably about 50. Fake chest but really good, cute face. Basically like Adult Friend Finder dating, in a sense. I think it's more of a "real" experience when you're meating up with a gal who's closer to your age range and on the same wavelength.
Personally, I take a multi-faceted approach when active on there. But I won't waste my time with young (or old) gals expressing "I want a sugar daddy" and role-playing that way. Not just a turn-off, but just, well, weird. A more relaxed & more "real" feel to it is what draws a guy to it. But yeah, you have to sift thru the crap to find it.
That's easy, though. You're toilet-paper hunting. Figured at dark it may be an open opportunity. Checking out gas stations / convenience stores, as you'll settle for just a couple rolls.[/QUOTE]You bring up a good point, I think a lot of us would like to find something in between, I don't have discrete cash to fund a high ticket SB but could support a girl that I could see at a reasonable rate 4 to 5 times a month. You obviously want lower volume but I can't seem to find that niche. All of those girls (even if they start slow) figure out how much Kesch is on the table and go buck wild. My dream of finding a nice single mom that only wants a hand full of regulars may be just that, a dream.