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[QUOTE=Wanker23;7407165]A ridiculously hot duo at an AMP is cheaper, better menu, better service than most any individual on the boards.[/QUOTE]Never been to an AMP but bb seems harder to get from what I read in that thread. I'd definitely partake if that were a more available option
I think most of us, outside a few super-busy shops, wildly overestimate how many dudes any of these girls are servicing.
Back when I played with indy escorts, in bluntly a much better economy, I was surprised how many attractive girls that provided good service actually saw only two or three customers per week. One reason I am sure of this is that they were so not busy that each of them would text my burner three or four times a day hoping I'd make time for them.
With AMPs, outside of some super-popular shops like Shanghai and the like I think at most shops the ladies are lucky to get three customers a day.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7408072]I think most of us, outside a few super-busy shops, wildly overestimate how many dudes any of these girls are servicing.
Back when I played with indy escorts, in bluntly a much better economy, I was surprised how many attractive girls that provided good service actually saw only two or three customers per week. One reason I am sure of this is that they were so not busy that each of them would text my burner three or four times a day hoping I'd make time for them.
With AMPs, outside of some super-popular shops like Shanghai and the like I think at most shops the ladies are lucky to get three customers a day.[/QUOTE]Obviously things vary for them but yeah you are pretty spot on, I have had girls tell me they have had some days with only one customer and other days 6-7. The average for slower shops probably sits around 3 ish. That is another reason you should never pay more in an AMP then you planned or wanted to, they rarely will let you leave because they don't know when the next customer will come.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7408052]Never been to an AMP but bb seems harder to get from what I read in that thread. I'd definitely partake if that were a more available option[/QUOTE]Depends where you go honestly. Some shops like the ones on Highway 99 up north, BB is standard for the usual $$, but a lot of older women work there, many of whom would call grannies.
Others shops that are primarily CFS may still have girls that will do more for extra for a bill or so (like anywhere).
[QUOTE=IssaquahMan;7407303]I completely agree. I asked one of the TNA girls, why should someone come to you for double the price of an AMP for lesser service. He answer was because AMP's are volume providers. So if you want to see a girl who hasn't been with many guys that day / week, you should see on TNA.
But I think most mongers don't mind sharing as long as they leave happy.
The strippers and escorts definitely need to learn from the AMP's before they run out of age, money and end up broke and ugly.[/QUOTE]TNA girl acting like being the one of the few guys who banged her that week provides any sort of tangible benefit for him, LOL. The hilarious thing is I've seen providers roast guys for even asking "am I your first today?" So we lose either damn way. Also, I guarantee you'll still get better service being the 3rd or 4th guy an average AMP provider has seen versus the 1st guy of an average TNA provider.
This is one reason why I have so much respect for the Love Twins that retired (or whatever). Amazing service, great rates, and they just dipped the hell out even at their peak. I've all but lost interest in duos because theirs was unmatched to me (for CFS at least). Most others will be working indefinitely or other jobs due to lacking the work ethic, business sense, and spending habits.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;7408491]Depends where you go honestly. Some shops like the ones on Highway 99 up north, BB is standard for the usual $$, but a lot of older women work there, many of whom would call grannies.
Others shops that are primarily CFS may still have girls that will do more for extra for a bill or so (like anywhere).
TNA girl acting like being the one of the few guys who banged her that week provides any sort of tangible benefit for him, LOL. The hilarious thing is I've seen providers roast guys for even asking "am I your first today?" So we lose either damn way. Also, I guarantee you'll still get better service being the 3rd or 4th guy an average AMP provider has seen versus the 1st guy of an average TNA provider.
This is one reason why I have so much respect for the Love Twins that retired (or whatever). Amazing service, great rates, and they just dipped the hell out even at their peak. I've all but lost interest in duos because theirs was unmatched to me (for CFS at least). Most others will be working indefinitely or other jobs due to lacking the work ethic, business sense, and spending habits.[/QUOTE]I still keep Sunny's number in my phone as remembrance LOL.
[QUOTE=Tobin1914;7408127]Obviously things vary for them but yeah you are pretty spot on, I have had girls tell me they have had some days with only one customer and other days 6-7. The average for slower shops probably sits around 3 ish. That is another reason you should never pay more in an AMP then you planned or wanted to, they rarely will let you leave because they don't know when the next customer will come.[/QUOTE]Saw my fav bb Asian in Lynnwood last week, she said I was the only one that came in that day. Wow.
[QUOTE=Tobin1914;7408127]Obviously things vary for them but yeah you are pretty spot on, I have had girls tell me they have had some days with only one customer and other days 6-7. The average for slower shops probably sits around 3 ish. That is another reason you should never pay more in an AMP then you planned or wanted to, they rarely will let you leave because they don't know when the next customer will come.[/QUOTE]Anything a woman tells you in this business is suspect. They know how to market themselves. That does not mean they are lying. It means they have every right to lie.
Biz is slow at all levels. Clubs, AMP's, Escorts, UTR indy girls, Sugar Babies.
I met a woman on Fetlife this month. 30's. Decent looking. She needed 300 for her phone bill.
All bare. All holes msog. She was fun. She likes fucking random guys. She hung out for about 3 hours.
I almost popped 3 times.
What I am saying is the days of me paying 500 an hour have come to an end and I am not the only one.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;7408491]..., but a lot of older women work there, many of whom would call grannies...[/QUOTE]It's not subjective, 95% of seattle AMPs have women working in them that quality for social security, MANY are far older than that and are textbook definitions of GRANNY. It's the most parhelic AMP market I have ever seen.
[QUOTE=LorenDaiz;7410082]Saw my fav bb Asian in Lynnwood last week, she said I was the only one that came in that day. Wow.[/QUOTE]Loren. Who was the provider? I would have seen her if I knew. PM me if you do not want to share publicly.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7408052]Never been to an AMP but bb seems harder to get from what I read in that thread. I'd definitely partake if that were a more available option[/QUOTE]I prefer bb and have a couple TNA providers that I've seen a long time for that. But if I want someone new, service at MPs is so much better at the locations mentioned on this site. It's worth it.
I almost feel wrong for sharing this but I was shooting the shit with a colleague who I know poons from time to time and gentlemen. I believe we have a hall of fame simp. He showed me texts from a hooker he only met ONCE who then proceeded to put him in what I can only guess is an unwilling findom situation for over a year LOL. I felt so bad laughing in his face but he's since cut her off. There's way more of these screenshots he sent me and I didn't do the math but I think the dude might have gone over 20 K and what's crazy is he says it's someone everyone here filled. I almost felt responsible because I introduced him to the site, but like. Come on dude! Do not fall in love with these girls guys. Have some self worth! LOL at the fact all he had to type was anyway in the search to bring it all up. I was laughing my ass off.
[QUOTE=Facials;7410110]Anything a woman tells you in this business is suspect. They know how to market themselves. That does not mean they are lying. It means they have every right to lie.
Biz is slow at all levels. Clubs, AMP's, Escorts, UTR indy girls, Sugar Babies.
I met a woman on Fetlife this month. 30's. Decent looking. She needed 300 for her phone bill.
All bare. All holes msog. She was fun. She likes fucking random guys. She hung out for about 3 hours.
I almost popped 3 times.
What I am saying is the days of me paying 500 an hour have come to an end and I am not the only one.[/QUOTE]300 has been and will be my number, I creep to 400 on a first date, but quickly say if this is ongoing it is 300 per date, I have a nice 5 lady rotation.
[QUOTE=Negajun;7411197]I almost feel wrong for sharing this but I was shooting the shit with a colleague who I know poons from time to time and gentlemen. I believe we have a hall of fame simp. He showed me texts from a hooker he only met ONCE who then proceeded to put him in what I can only guess is an unwilling findom situation for over a year LOL. I felt so bad laughing in his face but he's since cut her off. There's way more of these screenshots he sent me and I didn't do the math but I think the dude might have gone over 20 K and what's crazy is he says it's someone everyone here filled. I almost felt responsible because I introduced him to the site, but like. Come on dude! Do not fall in love with these girls guys. Have some self worth! LOL at the fact all he had to type was anyway in the search to bring it all up. I was laughing my ass off.[/QUOTE]LOL holy shit! Please tell me who this provider is so I can steer clear from this type of behavior.
The most hilarious thing about this is searching on the word "anyway" lololol!! That fucking kills me.
[QUOTE=Facials;7410110]Anything a woman tells you in this business is suspect. They know how to market themselves. That does not mean they are lying. It means they have every right to lie.
Biz is slow at all levels. Clubs, AMP's, Escorts, UTR indy girls, Sugar Babies.
I met a woman on Fetlife this month. 30's. Decent looking. She needed 300 for her phone bill.
All bare. All holes msog. She was fun. She likes fucking random guys. She hung out for about 3 hours.
I almost popped 3 times.
What I am saying is the days of me paying 500 an hour have come to an end and I am not the only one.[/QUOTE]Can you private message me contact if she is willing to see more.
[QUOTE=Negajun;7411197]I almost feel wrong for sharing this but I was shooting the shit with a colleague who I know poons from time to time and gentlemen. I believe we have a hall of fame simp. He showed me texts from a hooker he only met ONCE who then proceeded to put him in what I can only guess is an unwilling findom situation for over a year LOL. I felt so bad laughing in his face but he's since cut her off. There's way more of these screenshots he sent me and I didn't do the math but I think the dude might have gone over 20 K and what's crazy is he says it's someone everyone here filled. I almost felt responsible because I introduced him to the site, but like. Come on dude! Do not fall in love with these girls guys. Have some self worth! LOL at the fact all he had to type was anyway in the search to bring it all up. I was laughing my ass off.[/QUOTE]I get the old saying about how there's a sucker born every minute, but damn that chick needs to end up in a dumpster soaked in gasoline.
[QUOTE=Negajun;7411197]I almost feel wrong for sharing this but I was shooting the shit with a colleague who I know poons from time to time and gentlemen. I believe we have a hall of fame simp. He showed me texts from a hooker he only met ONCE who then proceeded to put him in what I can only guess is an unwilling findom situation for over a year LOL. I felt so bad laughing in his face but he's since cut her off. There's way more of these screenshots he sent me and I didn't do the math but I think the dude might have gone over 20 K and what's crazy is he says it's someone everyone here filled. I almost felt responsible because I introduced him to the site, but like. Come on dude! Do not fall in love with these girls guys. Have some self worth! LOL at the fact all he had to type was anyway in the search to bring it all up. I was laughing my ass off.[/QUOTE]Is that CIV?
[QUOTE=KitWalker1967;7411623]I get the old saying about how there's a sucker born every minute, but damn that chick needs to end up in a dumpster soaked in gasoline.[/QUOTE]Does it make me a white knight or a simp to think this is maybe. Kind of an, oh I don't know, psychotic response, even as a joke?
Sounds like my ex-wife is providing now, I guess.
I just realized that when I entered the site I clicked the "Frequent Visitors Click Here" link instead of the standard "Enter Here" link!!
Does anyone know how they determine if you're a frequent visitor or not? I haven't been here for a while and am worried I clicked the wrong link to enter. The only good thing is that wasn't logged in, so maybe they don't know it was me? How deeply do they track this? I know they wouldn't have two identical links on the front page for no reason. How much trouble am I in?
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7411795]Sounds like my ex-wife is providing now, I guess.[/QUOTE]Wait what? Really?
[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;7412022]Wait what? Really?[/QUOTE]No. Just that post with the screenshot of crazy texts hitting a guy up for money reminds me of her a lot.
So I have been doing this for a long time, when I first joined the other site I could pretty easily find 100-150 rates or less for a QB or a HH. Now 200 for a HH is hard to find. So many of them are set at 300 for a HH, I am thinking that it's a monkey see monkey do kind of thing? They seem to rather do nothing than to get 200 for a HH. I mean, there are quite a few that I would like to see, but I am just not paying more than 200. Rant over.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7412101]No. Just that post with the screenshot of crazy texts hitting a guy up for money reminds me of her a lot.[/QUOTE]Yeah sometimes typing things out ruins what would've been a well delivered punchline.
[QUOTE=ScotchYoke;7412236]Yeah sometimes typing things out ruins what would've been a well delivered punchline.[/QUOTE]Just the sheer cluelessness and financial irresponsibility in those texts brought back some bad memories.
My "fave" was when she had a weeklong gig teaching at Western. I set her up with an airbnb for the week, dropped her of at Haggens to buy groceries and then went and checked her in. Came back and she had spent all $500 I had given her for groceries on beauty products and wanted me to give her more money for food. Told her fuck no she could eat the shampoo for all I cared. She didn't respond very positively.
Been a minute since we've had a rate rant. Neither a newbie nor a lifer, I've had my fair share of experiences in the hobby. [I]I, too, am disappointed with rate increases.[/I] Without a lot of disposable income, I try to be strategic in my hobbying, looking for the best value. But for me, higher prices generally mean fewer visits.
I'm amenable to negotiating and asking about specials. If the provider doesn't do specials, fine. I'll either find somebody else or I'll pay her posted rate, and I'll ask again for specials on subsequent visits after establishing rapport.
Inflation happens but I don't have to like it. Below is the value of the dollar, accounting for lesser purchasing power, since the turn of the century. What cost $150 in 2000, now costs $285.
2000: $150.
2010: $190.
2020: $225.
2025: $285.
Logging off so that I can tell those kids to get off my lawn.
[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7412159]So I have been doing this for a long time, when I first joined the other site I could pretty easily find 100-150 rates or less for a QB or a HH. Now 200 for a HH is hard to find. So many of them are set at 300 for a HH, I am thinking that it's a monkey see monkey do kind of thing? They seem to rather do nothing than to get 200 for a HH. I mean, there are quite a few that I would like to see, but I am just not paying more than 200. Rant over.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Negajun;7411197]I almost feel wrong for sharing this but I was shooting the shit with a colleague who I know poons from time to time and gentlemen. I believe we have a hall of fame simp. He showed me texts from a hooker he only met ONCE who then proceeded to put him in what I can only guess is an unwilling findom situation for over a year LOL. I felt so bad laughing in his face but he's since cut her off. There's way more of these screenshots he sent me and I didn't do the math but I think the dude might have gone over 20 K and what's crazy is he says it's someone everyone here filled. I almost felt responsible because I introduced him to the site, but like. Come on dude! Do not fall in love with these girls guys. Have some self worth! LOL at the fact all he had to type was anyway in the search to bring it all up. I was laughing my ass off.[/QUOTE]Anyway.
That is unfortunate.
Does anyone actually get excited when a lady says her birthday is coming up? When they say that, I know they are hoping for presents or extra cash. I personally want no part of that and will avoid seeing them on or near their birthday. They must think that it's a selling point, but not at all for me. I know some of you might like giving gifts, and by all means have at it, but I will avoid them for at least a few weeks after their birthday. Am I the only one?
[QUOTE=BuckNaked123;7413247]Does anyone actually get excited when a lady says her birthday is coming up? When they say that, I know they are hoping for presents or extra cash. I personally want no part of that and will avoid seeing them on or near their birthday. They must think that it's a selling point, but not at all for me. I know some of you might like giving gifts, and by all means have at it, but I will avoid them for at least a few weeks after their birthday. Am I the only one?[/QUOTE]It kinda defeats the purpose of this hobby. I'm mostly paying them to leave once I'm through with them.
[QUOTE=Original703;7412977]Been a minute since we've had a rate rant. Neither a newbie nor a lifer, I've had my fair share of experiences in the hobby. [I]I, too, am disappointed with rate increases.[/I] Without a lot of disposable income, I try to be strategic in my hobbying, looking for the best value. But for me, higher prices generally mean fewer visits.
I'm amenable to negotiating and asking about specials. If the provider doesn't do specials, fine. I'll either find somebody else or I'll pay her posted rate, and I'll ask again for specials on subsequent visits after establishing rapport.
Inflation happens but I don't have to like it. Below is the value of the dollar, accounting for lesser purchasing power, since the turn of the century. What cost $150 in 2000, now costs $285.
2000: $150.
2010: $190.
2020: $225.
2025: $285.
Logging off so that I can tell those kids to get off my lawn.[/QUOTE]Street Tacos:
2000: $. 75.
2010: $1. 25.
2020: $2. 00.
2025: $3. 50.
This post is meant for me agreeing and or acknowledging the fact we are getting screwed less physically but more financially with inflation.
[QUOTE=Original703;7412977]Been a minute since we've had a rate rant. Neither a newbie nor a lifer, I've had my fair share of experiences in the hobby. [I]I, too, am disappointed with rate increases.[/I] Without a lot of disposable income, I try to be strategic in my hobbying, looking for the best value. But for me, higher prices generally mean fewer visits.
I'm amenable to negotiating and asking about specials. If the provider doesn't do specials, fine. I'll either find somebody else or I'll pay her posted rate, and I'll ask again for specials on subsequent visits after establishing rapport.
Inflation happens but I don't have to like it. Below is the value of the dollar, accounting for lesser purchasing power, since the turn of the century. What cost $150 in 2000, now costs $285.
2000: $150.
2010: $190.
2020: $225.
2025: $285.
Logging off so that I can tell those kids to get off my lawn.[/QUOTE]You'll really be pissed when you hear about what prices were in 1900!
[QUOTE=Morohei;7413375]It kinda defeats the purpose of this hobby. I'm mostly paying them to leave once I'm through with them.[/QUOTE]Exactly. IDGAF about what's going on in their personal life just the same way they don't care about what's going on in my life. I don't want to know, I'm not here for emotional support I'm here to have fun and bust a nut. I'm not a dick about it and am friendly, but the whole point is no strings, no complications. Fuck and leave.
As BuckNaked said, it's just a way to try to drum up extra donation and probably some simps fall for it. This is my biggest gripe about the hobby and what makes me a jaded asshole at times is the constant battle to get what was promised for the agreed to price, they are constantly trying to get more for less.
Even though I've had some less than stellar experiences in terms of attractiveness lately this is exactly why I keep going back to the k-agencies. You are both there for a single purpose and there's no bullshit. Never had a k-girl quit on me until the clock ran out, which is part of the rules there so fully expected.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7413728]Exactly. IDGAF about what's going on in their personal life just the same way they don't care about what's going on in my life. I don't want to know, I'm not here for emotional support I'm here to have fun and bust a nut. I'm not a dick about it and am friendly, but the whole point is no strings, no complications. Fuck and leave.
As BuckNaked said, it's just a way to try to drum up extra donation and probably some simps fall for it. This is my biggest gripe about the hobby and what makes me a jaded asshole at times is the constant battle to get what was promised for the agreed to price, they are constantly trying to get more for less.
Even though I've had some less than stellar experiences in terms of attractiveness lately this is exactly why I keep going back to the k-agencies. You are both there for a single purpose and there's no bullshit. Never had a k-girl quit on me until the clock ran out, which is part of the rules there so fully expected.[/QUOTE]Let's be fair now. Hobbyists are trying to get more than what was promised for less than what was paid, and the providers are doing the opposite in that they want to give less service than what was paid for.
Still, it does seem to be a hobbyist's market these days and I honestly just wait to get the "Hey I'm running a special / Or hey I miss you" text from a provider who I can then offer less than her normal rate for and still get the same service I want. Eh. I guess I'm part of the problem huh XD.
Remilane now known as rem123 for future search results.
[QUOTE=ForeignMan;7414784]Let's be fair now. Hobbyists are trying to get more than what was promised for less than what was paid, and the providers are doing the opposite in that they want to give less service than what was paid for.[/QUOTE]Can't argue that.
[QUOTE]Still, it does seem to be a hobbyist's market these days and I honestly just wait to get the "Hey I'm running a special / Or hey I miss you" text from a provider who I can then offer less than her normal rate for and still get the same service I want. Eh. I guess I'm part of the problem huh XD.[/QUOTE]LOL. Just had a SB I let go after an episode of money-gouging drama last month come back all nice and offering to see me again and saying it was all a misunderstanding. It wasn't, but she clearly isn't finding much other success out there.
Looking for some help in figuring out a fun place for travel with good talent. I have some vacation time coming up and no commitments and would like to travel somewhere. I have never seen girls outside of Seattle area and would like to travel somewhere where there are good options to try. I'm open to international travel, but a bit worried about the language barrier. I've seen a few Latinas here and wasn't a fan of the misunderstandings and using translator apps. Where would you go? Any favorites? BBFS availability is a huge plus.
Saw a blurb on the news that police are going to start pressing down on mongers that traverse Aurora the TLDR is they are going to catch license plate information and then mail the letter to the owner of the car.
Pretty much scare tactic but could become problematic.
[QUOTE=DeArmor;7416133]Looking for some help in figuring out a fun place for travel with good talent. I have some vacation time coming up and no commitments and would like to travel somewhere. I have never seen girls outside of Seattle area and would like to travel somewhere where there are good options to try. I'm open to international travel, but a bit worried about the language barrier. I've seen a few Latinas here and wasn't a fan of the misunderstandings and using translator apps. Where would you go? Any favorites? BBFS availability is a huge plus.[/QUOTE]Pattaya. They speak enough english that you can get answers to all the necessary questions. Absolute mongering paradise. Not been in many years but BBFS was always available for me from enough girls it wasn't an issue. You literally just move to the next girl in the establishment and ask and every establishment has many to choose from. Huge areas of the town are built on prostitution.
Girls who will play with other girls was the one thing I always found it hard to find I think mostly because they are all looking for their western sponsor and don't want to share.
[QUOTE=RocDiesel;7416838]Saw a blurb on the news that police are going to start pressing down on mongers that traverse Aurora the TLDR is they are going to catch license plate information and then mail the letter to the owner of the car.
Pretty much scare tactic but could become problematic.[/QUOTE]Oh no! A letter!
[QUOTE=DeArmor;7416133]Looking for some help in figuring out a fun place for travel with good talent. I have some vacation time coming up and no commitments and would like to travel somewhere. I have never seen girls outside of Seattle area and would like to travel somewhere where there are good options to try. I'm open to international travel, but a bit worried about the language barrier. I've seen a few Latinas here and wasn't a fan of the misunderstandings and using translator apps. Where would you go? Any favorites? BBFS availability is a huge plus.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to go to far, the Vancouver BC area might be good for you. A little bit further away, Tijuana. You can just stay in San Diego and cross the border, there are Youtubers that discuss this too. I don't know about the frequency of BBFS availability of those places though.
If you havent seen, there is a vancouver BC thread in the Seattle section. THere is also an international USASG version, should be a link on the main page of this site, left side, down a bit.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7416943]Oh no! A letter![/QUOTE]For some, that could be a life-changing event.
Clear 4th Amendment violation wrapped up in an "education" campaign.
Cops admitting they simply have no other options to reduce activity the local businesses are complaining about.