Non Pro's

[QUOTE=CoffeeTurd;5152817][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dc88b893-347c-47ed-833c-0b9018373a45[/URL]

Before you send a message, you can tell on her profile that she's going to want lots.[/QUOTE]Not something you see every day! Curious as to what she spent at least 6 years in college studying and hundreds of thousands of dollars in tuition to work in a little Java Joint?

Yeah, from her profile, she seems like she will be a rather pricey endeavor! Nice ass and a very colorful figure, tho!

Here is the first part of her SA “About Me” section:

“This disclaimer is necessary for some of you: This is a high value dating site. Not a site to meet women to just "hang out", "see what happens", and "spend free time together when it works for our schedules".

I am extremely mature, polished, and all of the other things that a good sugarbaby should be. I know my worth and my value.”

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5142942]I could be wrong. But this is what I think. When you block someone. They cannot see your profile. You cannot see their profile either but their name still shows up. The moment they block you (as well) or leave the board. That screen-name will change to sugarbaby (I. E. Defauit name).

The reason why I think this is true is I got into it with a lady. Cannot remember her name but I posted a rant on her asking people to avoid her as she is BAT SHIT CRAZY! But anyway for the next 2-3 days I could see that green bubble next to her name I could alos see the entire email conversation. After 2 days for so. She probably realized that I had blocked her ass and she did the same to me. Then when I go to my messages. It now only shows sugarbaby and the online bubble is not either empty or green. It just does not exist anymore.

I could be wrong. But that is how I think it works. BTW when I first started out on SA. I usually never blocked anyone. I would just ignore them. Now I actually do a LOT of blocking. Shared pics and everything disappear once you block so it gives me more peace of mind.[/QUOTE]I have figured it out.

Profile name intact and when you look at conversation it says "Unable to send message as this user is no longer active" = you were blocked.

Profile name changed to "sugar baby" and when you look at conversation it says "This user's account has been deactivated" = they shutdown their account.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5153944]I have figured it out.

Profile name intact and when you look at conversation it says "Unable to send message as this user is no longer active" = you were blocked.

Profile name changed to "sugar baby" and when you look at conversation it says "This user's account has been deactivated" = they shutdown their account.[/QUOTE]I have a few in my inbox that have the name intact and it says the user account had been deactivated. I think that means deactivated or suspended. I think if it reverts to sugar baby, then it's deleted all up.

Maybe it would be better if they just "You were blocked! No worries, there are more sugar in the bowl. ".

[QUOTE=CoffeeTurd;5154008]I have a few in my inbox that have the name intact and it says the user account had been deactivated. I think that means deactivated or suspended. I think if it reverts to sugar baby, then it's deleted all up.

Maybe it would be better if they just "You were blocked! No worries, there are more sugar in the bowl. ".[/QUOTE]If you have 2 accounts (you don't need to pay for the second) you can then see if you were blocked or they deactivated.

I have had a few I was interested in that have completely removed their accounts, I still have their phone numbers but they don't answer, I have had a few that sent me their FB info which I thought was crazy as I could see their connections and other family members, I have a few that deactivated and sent me a few pics of them with things like I'd badge for work in their pic so I can see their full name and business.

There are some that blocked me and a few I was like WTF as seemed for no reason, others I could care less.

There are many out there, there are also many scammers, going after both the guy and the women.

[QUOTE=RockChalk;5152737]Seriously, does anyone ever pay these girls for their pictures? [/QUOTE]I think so. I was dropping a couple loads into a middle aged SB this morning and we were chatting between rounds of all the funny shit we've seen on SA. She says guys would offer her well over her asking price just to hang out and talk. I think the real problem is that there are so many sackless betas in this part of the country that they will pay ridiculous prices for minimal services. Most of them likely have serious Mommy issues. The way some of the GPS girls talk to me before I block them it's pretty obvious this works on the cucks. "but you'd make my day if you sent me $50, Daddy. ".

It's all these micropenis tech kids with more money than they know what to do with. It's also why the pussy mafia is so strong on the other board and there are a million white knights.

I met with one today at the park and we chatted for about an hour. She then proceeds to tell me that she needs 300 after the meetup was over and I am on my way home. I asked her for details about what she wanted multiple times. She then proceeds to say that she could do 150 and that is nothing. She then says a date is 300 and intimacy is 600. I am not budging on not giving her cash for a meetup. Thank you guys for dropping knowledge! I learned don't pay for a meetup. I also got a vibe when I asked about intimacy details she kept say "let's discuss that later". I don't know if she will try to make it right or not but be careful of GoldenBarbieO.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5155241]I think so. I was dropping a couple loads into a middle aged SB this morning and we were chatting between rounds of all the funny shit we've seen on SA. She says guys would offer her well over her asking price just to hang out and talk. I think the real problem is that there are so many sackless betas in this part of the country that they will pay ridiculous prices for minimal services. Most of them likely have serious Mommy issues. The way some of the GPS girls talk to me before I block them it's pretty obvious this works on the cucks. "but you'd make my day if you sent me $50, Daddy. ".

It's all these micropenis tech kids with more money than they know what to do with. It's also why the pussy mafia is so strong on the other board and there are a million white knights.[/QUOTE]It's true. My dear friend who works in the Vegas area says men from the tech industry will pay her a grand just for an hour's company. The fetish things they want done to them is a shocking menu to hear about.

We have been friends since elementary school. She's like a sister to me so no reason to doubt her. Says they come from California and Washington; mentions Microsoft especially.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5122053]She's wants 400 to 500 probably per hour. When I balked she got all pissy saying she's a former porn star and used to get 1200 an hour or 3500 for an overnight. To which I said it's all supply and demand and right now there's plenty of supply.

So if you want a used up former pro with an attitude she's ready and willing 206-xxx-9113.[/QUOTE]Had a fair number of people asking who this was and looks like she's made another account. I'm sure she had her previous account blocked.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/09a52b4d-3108-43f0-b52f-5152012f218e[/URL]

[QUOTE=Utah1234;5155275]I met with one today at the park and we chatted for about an hour. She then proceeds to tell me that she needs 300 after the meetup was over and I am on my way home. I asked her for details about what she wanted multiple times. She then proceeds to say that she could do 150 and that is nothing. She then says a date is 300 and intimacy is 600. I am not budging on not giving her cash for a meetup. Thank you guys for dropping knowledge! I learned don't pay for a meetup. I also got a vibe when I asked about intimacy details she kept say "let's discuss that later". I don't know if she will try to make it right or not but be careful of GoldenBarbieO.[/QUOTE]Utah. You have good instincts. I would not pay her a penny for meeting. The only thing I do different to avoid wasted time is that I let the lady know during the setup of the meet that I would pay for coffee or the meal etc but do not pay outright for the M&G unless we spend some "time" together later. I loose out on a lot of meets due to this. But it is my way of filtering out the ones that expect payment to meet. I would not pay her anything. You should also let her know that if she was expecting allowance for a meet in the park. She should have made that explicitly clear beforehand.

[QUOTE=Flyer99;5155362]It's true. My dear friend who works in the Vegas area says men from the tech industry will pay her a grand just for an hour's company. The fetish things they want done to them is a shocking menu to hear about.

We have been friends since elementary school. She's like a sister to me so no reason to doubt her. Says they come from California and Washington; mentions Microsoft especially.[/QUOTE]I've had numerous women tell me that they have guys that pay them $150-200/ hr to rub their feet. The feet guys are the worst.

[QUOTE=Flyer99;5155362]It's true. My dear friend who works in the Vegas area says men from the tech industry will pay her a grand just for an hour's company. The fetish things they want done to them is a shocking menu to hear about.

We have been friends since elementary school. She's like a sister to me so no reason to doubt her. Says they come from California and Washington; mentions Microsoft especially.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5156345]I've had numerous women tell me that they have guys that pay them $150-200/ hr to rub their feet. The feet guys are the worst.[/QUOTE]LOL. I understand the whole foot fetish thing, but 150-200/ hr, really? These guys are ruining it for us. I am currently feeling that pain with two to three good women that I am communicating with. They are raising prices becuase of these guys throwing money at them. Really pisses me off. What is even worse is the number of ladies that are now boldly asking for allowances for only "online" ; are you kidding me?

On a seperate note, with the way the economy is SA is still swimming. But it is getting hard to sift through the scammers and time-wasters. It is actually starting to impact good hobby time. There really needs to be a bot app that will go out send messages on your behalf and sift out the fakes, time-wasters and the ones that tell you that they are only here for "online". I guess I should get some offshore guys in Eastern Europe / India / China to write the app. An SA bot that makes the lives of busy hobbiests like us, a ittle more tolerable / palatable. The tagline for it is "Breaking up is a downer, don't do it yourself. We have a bot that you can deploy to create and break connections on your behalf. ".

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5156073]Utah. You have good instincts. I would not pay her a penny for meeting. The only thing I do different to avoid wasted time is that I let the lady know during the setup of the meet that I would pay for coffee or the meal etc but do not pay outright for the M&G unless we spend some "time" together later. I loose out on a lot of meets due to this. But it is my way of filtering out the ones that expect payment to meet. I would not pay her anything. You should also let her know that if she was expecting allowance for a meet in the park. She should have made that explicitly clear beforehand.[/QUOTE]I dodge that bullshit like Neo.

GPS and covered only. Still down to meet with minimal back and forth (apparently, I passed) if you're interested.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/467c97d9-98b3-494b-91fc-d06b9d35472c[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;5157228]GPS and covered only. Still down to meet with minimal back and forth (apparently, I passed) if you're interested.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/467c97d9-98b3-494b-91fc-d06b9d35472c[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks, could you please elaborate on the GPS comment.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5157780]Thanks, could you please elaborate on the GPS comment.[/QUOTE]She Quoted 800 ppm, and I assume that's for a relatively short time with the general pro vibes she was giving off.

[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;5157876]She Quoted 800 ppm.[/QUOTE]That alone qualifies her as having GPS. She is interested in me, we chatted a bit then she asked to contact her with WhatsApp, which I found odd, she just pinged me yesterday but I will pass, thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;5157228]GPS and covered only. Still down to meet with minimal back and forth (apparently, I passed) if you're interested.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/467c97d9-98b3-494b-91fc-d06b9d35472c[/URL][/QUOTE]Was messaging with her before seeing this, can confirm, $850.

GPS.

Martha_n.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ff73243c-cc12-441c-9cb6-a4aeb3308a72[/URL]
Laugh over the $250 proposal. No CIM, no anal, no face slapping.

Lips_like_M0 rphine.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c9871a09-ca5c-4da2-869a-37741e3ccbb3[/URL]
Cut communications after I offered $250.

Lovelydarling789.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ef93b11e-ee65-4409-af55-4b9a32b61538[/URL]
Rejected $300 offer.

Maggiecakes4.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ec4f0f65-75ed-44b9-b00b-d7d74459810d[/URL]
Rejected $300 offer.

SCAM.

SierraDaySugarBaby.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a19ead13-0052-4935-86d4-851bb5bfc999[/URL]
Wants paid facetimes before meeting in person.

No Non Pro.
LolaEmber.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7a298e99-3ed8-4bb5-913c-1ae6703a074a[/URL]
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/lola-ember[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/79e688a0-1de1-438a-8c38-b04a32d7a5ec[/URL]

In Kent wanted 500 then 400 told her I could get it for 150.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6cd6e7b2-9d99-4198-be88-6f310ecb9f1c[/URL]

Another one that seem like a straight up pro, went silent in the middle of negotiation, probably busy doing some guy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/929aead1-7350-4dda-8071-97bbfa4f284b[/URL]

Up here from PDX not bad 200 HH, 300 FH wouldn't say what she would or wouldn't do but that rate isn't bad and she is pretty good looking, but I already have had several respond for less.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5157780]Thanks, could you please elaborate on the GPS comment.[/QUOTE]She wants 250 for dinner and 500 to fool around. With further communication, you find out that she is pretty restrictive at that price and and she'll Nickle and Dime you trying to get more and more assuming you want to do something more than fool around until it's finally enough is enough.

In general she wants 4-5 k / mo but likes to say guys offer her 7 k.

I dunno if I would say GPS (perhaps it's worth it?) but I for one absolutely HATE upsell. Do not stand for it when it comes to TNA and certainly do not accept it from SA. I did not partake.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5155241]
It's all these micropenis tech kids with more money than they know what to do with. It's also why the pussy mafia is so strong on the other board and there are a million white knights.[/QUOTE]I should probably take offence to that but perhaps some truth there. Hah.

The thing that has always gotten to me is that the SB's somehow think their time is more valuable than mine for a meet and greet. I am fine covering the cost of a nice dinner / bottle of wine / uber to meet / etc. As a show of good faith but expecting an allowance on top of that for an hour or two of your time? No thanks.

An initial meet is like a job interview. If they are not sucking my dick or legs spread by the end of it they do not have the job and no future dates coming their way. (Perhaps I should preface this with I have done some initial meets with zero expectations of continuing afterwards. Coffee date in the middle of the day for 15 mins to check her out before even wanting to invest in dinner or if she is super skittish / paranoid / seems new or sweet and wanting to make sure I am normal. But that's a different story).

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5158841][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/79e688a0-1de1-438a-8c38-b04a32d7a5ec[/URL]

In Kent wanted 500 then 400 told her I could get it for 150.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6cd6e7b2-9d99-4198-be88-6f310ecb9f1c[/URL]

Another one that seem like a straight up pro, went silent in the middle of negotiation, probably busy doing some guy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/929aead1-7350-4dda-8071-97bbfa4f284b[/URL]

Up here from PDX not bad 200 HH, 300 FH wouldn't say what she would or wouldn't do but that rate isn't bad and she is pretty good looking, but I already have had several respond for less.[/QUOTE]That MADE my day! The first profile, BellaBella206, who wrote, "Looking for somebody. . . That's going to put me on the pedal stool. " Glad I didn't spit out my coffee.

Reminded me of this: [URL]https://youtu.be/XnXKVY-_i2c[/URL].

You'll see why at the 0:24 mark.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5158729]GPS.

Martha_n.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ff73243c-cc12-441c-9cb6-a4aeb3308a72[/URL]
Laugh over the $250 proposal. No CIM, no anal, no face slapping.

Lips_like_M0 rphine.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c9871a09-ca5c-4da2-869a-37741e3ccbb3[/URL]
Cut communications after I offered $250.

Lovelydarling789.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ef93b11e-ee65-4409-af55-4b9a32b61538[/URL]
Rejected $300 offer.

Maggiecakes4.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ec4f0f65-75ed-44b9-b00b-d7d74459810d[/URL]
Rejected $300 offer.

SCAM.

SierraDaySugarBaby.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a19ead13-0052-4935-86d4-851bb5bfc999[/URL]
Wants paid facetimes before meeting in person.

No Non Pro.
LolaEmber.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7a298e99-3ed8-4bb5-913c-1ae6703a074a[/URL]
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/lola-ember[/URL][/QUOTE]Way to go on not willing to pay those ridiculous rates! In fact, next time offer $220 an hour, and insist on BBBJ, DATY, DATO, Rimming, and BBFS!

[QUOTE=DelToro;5158729]No Non Pro.
LolaEmber.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7a298e99-3ed8-4bb5-913c-1ae6703a074a[/URL]
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/lola-ember[/URL][/QUOTE]That's one fucking ugly $400 hr hooker.

Katalina7119.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b56224fa-af95-42dd-8600-418c6e12f5b1[/URL]

$500 an hr.

She seemed super sweet at first, disappointed to hear her very pro sounding unrequested by the hour quote.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5159571]Katalina7119.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b56224fa-af95-42dd-8600-418c6e12f5b1[/URL]

$500 an hr.

She seemed super sweet at first, disappointed to hear her very pro sounding unrequested by the hour quote.[/QUOTE]$500 for that ugly sb and such? No than you.

I guess some pissed off pros decided to report me. My fault for allowing any discussion of allowance or expectations on the site itself. Just a reminder to you all to not get lazy. Best way is to use Snapchat so messages disappear and you can see if they screen shot your discussion.

On another note any recommendations on how to get back on? I thought maybe using a gift card and new email to subscribe would work. Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5160070]I guess some pissed off pros decided to report me. My fault for allowing any discussion of allowance or expectations on the site itself. Just a reminder to you all to not get lazy. Best way is to use Snapchat so messages disappear and you can see if they screen shot your discussion.

On another note any recommendations on how to get back on? I thought maybe using a gift card and new email to subscribe would work. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]I just created a new one and it seems to be fine. Definitely don't do any communicating on the site itself. I move to text or some other discussion method right away.

[QUOTE=FantasyManJ;5160092]I just created a new one and it seems to be fine. Definitely don't do any communicating on the site itself. I move to text or some other discussion method right away.[/QUOTE]Were you banned from a previous account. If so. How did you create a new account? On this thread there was a thread that specified a new email and pre-paid card did not do the trick. My account is fine, but would love to know what works and what does not if you do get banned.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5160162]Were you banned from a previous account. If so. How did you create a new account? On this thread there was a thread that specified a new email and pre-paid card did not do the trick. My account is fine, but would love to know what works and what does not if you do get banned.[/QUOTE]Yes I was banned in the previous account. I think it was because I was mentioning PPM in my message. I just used a new email and card and it works fine.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5160070]I guess some pissed off pros decided to report me. My fault for allowing any discussion of allowance or expectations on the site itself. Just a reminder to you all to not get lazy. Best way is to use Snapchat so messages disappear and you can see if they screen shot your discussion.

On another note any recommendations on how to get back on? I thought maybe using a gift card and new email to subscribe would work. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE][B]New email address[/B], [B]different payment method/card[/B], and [B]VPN[/B].

Seems as if SA has a hierarchy of "offenses," and the degree to which they limit your continued participation depends on the level of transgression. When SA shut me down, I tried those 3 things above and successfully created a new account. They [I]want[/I] your money; they're not going to make it too hard for your re-join.

[QUOTE=Original703;5160580][B]New email address[/B], [B]different payment method/card[/B], and [B]VPN[/B].

Seems as if SA has a hierarchy of "offenses," and the degree to which they limit your continued participation depends on the level of transgression. When SA shut me down, I tried those 3 things above and successfully created a new account. They [I]want[/I] your money; they're not going to make it too hard for your re-join.[/QUOTE]This (hierarchy of bans) actually makes a lot of sense. I do not discuss PPM on SA messaging. But have done that a couple of times lately, will start getting more disciplined about it again. Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=JoeSpaur;5159669]$500 for that ugly sb and such? No than you.[/QUOTE]What is worst is, that is $500 for an hr.

The last SA gem I found, I fucked all holes, raw for three hours, she hosted, early 30's MILF with a flat stomach, no mention of arrangement. After all was done I gave her $240 and she wants to see me again.

Same experience in terms of time with this other one would be $1500, no fucking way.

Anyone have any info on this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6ee7b111-36e9-45d9-8e05-9dcdfc1a0071[/URL]

[QUOTE=DelToro;5158729]
No Non Pro.
LolaEmber.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7a298e99-3ed8-4bb5-913c-1ae6703a074a[/URL]
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/lola-ember[/URL][/QUOTE]Dear God. I blocked her as soon as I saw her pics, LOL. Just in case she decided to contact me. ::shivers::

I am so glad I read the reports on here. Been holding firm at 300 though that is that I was giving earlier in 2020. Not much like this time around though. One of the SB quoted here as 300 PPM told me she usually gets 900/ week allowance. Another asked for 900 PPM.

I am a decent looking guy in his 40's. Maybe there was a hike in the POC tax rates. Who knows.

Any intel on this one.

Curiousbabyyy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/074928d6-ec4d-45c3-9dce-cb730c8034d4[/URL]

[QUOTE=Loopguystl;5161955]I am so glad I read the reports on here. Been holding firm at 300 though that is that I was giving earlier in 2020. Not much like this time around though. One of the SB quoted here as 300 PPM told me she usually gets 900/ week allowance. Another asked for 900 PPM.

I am a decent looking guy in his 40's. Maybe there was a hike in the POC tax rates. Who knows.[/QUOTE]My thought when people tell me they get $900/ week or $600/ ppm or $5,000/ mth is: If they are actually getting that, why are they wasting their time trying to coerce someone that is offering 1/3rd of that into paying more?

The truth is that they are full of shit. It's part of a real poor negotiating tactic. I'm sure, a few girls get that, but I expect they are the very hottest of the group. When a woman tells me that they get $500 for going out to dinner and then enthusiastically fucks me for $250, then I truly doubt they were getting $500 for dinner.

This one favorited me and I'll not be responding. Face and body screams "this is a dude" even accounting for her / his assumed pacific islander heritage.

ISLANDgODDESSSSS.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ba8e60ac-c0ef-49eb-b34e-14abce7cab99[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dd2a6f77-34ba-4a3b-ad6e-c7d86884dcb2[/URL]

I have been chatting with Nana. She seems like a pro, but I haven't seen her on TNA. Does anyone have info?