when I used to go there Lisa would always tell me *next time* for full service. always some excuse or another. After a while I just stopped going...
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when I used to go there Lisa would always tell me *next time* for full service. always some excuse or another. After a while I just stopped going...
[QUOTE=SaltyDog]Why don't you just say "for free."[/QUOTE]Sorry, I realize I wasn't clear with my statement. When I say "no tip expectation" I don't mean to leave with no tip, but I'd like to decide the appropriate tip. At the end of the day if you are a bad tipper you cut your own legs, so if you like the service and plan to return you automatically tip well. Also consider if the girls take for granted the tip amount they will reduce the effort to the minimum possible. After all for them is just a job.
[QUOTE=Jysn123]I prefer places where massage is decent and extra is done only after massage time with no tip expectations. Any place like that?[/QUOTE]
I think you need to clarify your question here. Although it certainly reads this way, it is hard to believe that you might be asking if there is a place where the girls will have sex with for free.
I suspect that you must be asking, are there places where you can bang a nice looking girl for a set fee.
Sure, there are plenty of AAMP, asian apartment massage parlors advertised on places like craigslist and elsewhere. They'll have a fixed fee that will cover the door charge and the fee to the girl.
If your asking, where can you get a decent massage and get laid for fifty bucks, I think your looking in the wrong place, and if you find that place, for one reason or another your not going to like what you see.
Was in San Clemente. Figure I would try the 50$ place thats around the corner from Kmart. Ad is in the sports page. I call she says to come. I get there and shes busy. WTF. I have been there twice and got bumped both times.
So I went to the other 50$ place in SC. Its across from the hospital. Karen use to be there long time ago. Now its older ladies. I walked in girl said her name was Karen. not the same karen for sure, she wore a super thin long silk dress. I could see she had a nice little olde ladie ass. I said wtf and took a shower. Massage was ok, good ass rub, she allowed whatever and didnt mind direction. HE was allowed. It was ok for older. Need to try the other place soon.
So what happened to the places that use to climb all over you, sit that nice ass on yours and massage you.
[QUOTE=Lerrena]But I do know that recently a couple of mongers visited Irvine and received service and left without tipping.[/QUOTE]
I really hope that none of us here have done this kind of thing, getting serviced without tipping.
I'd say, no matter how well you talk and get along during the massage part of the session, no matter what kind of complements she gives, as she is staring up at you while she is blowing you, she is not doing this because she has just fallen in love with you, nor is she doing it because she is so horney, she came into that room with a short skirt with no bra or panties on, because she is there to make money.
In my opinion, leaving without tipping is more despicable than the people who smuggle these girls in with the understanding that she will work in a MP to pay off her debt. At least in that situation, she knows upfront that she will be doing certain things in trade for something she wants.
For me, the going rate for FS is $100. If I especially like the girl and I intend that I will see her again, I might give her $120 or maybe a bit more.
Maybe she`s a freak and wants to see me have fun,maybe for the moment she is in love fine with me; I can`t say I care what it is, but if I go to get a massage unless we come to some kind of agreement, she goes down on me thank you baby. If I have the money and I like her I`ll give her what she wants, if I only have enough for the massage thats all there is to it!
[QUOTE=Oc Amper]I really hope that none of us here have done this kind of thing, getting serviced without tipping.
I'd say, no matter how well you talk and get along during the massage part of the session, no matter what kind of complements she gives, as she is staring up at you while she is blowing you, she is not doing this because she has just fallen in love with you, nor is she doing it because she is so horney, she came into that room with a short skirt with no bra or panties on, because she is there to make money.
In my opinion, leaving without tipping is more despicable than the people who smuggle these girls in with the understanding that she will work in a MP to pay off her debt. At least in that situation, she knows upfront that she will be doing certain things in trade for something she wants.
For me, the going rate for FS is $100. If I especially like the girl and I intend that I will see her again, I might give her $120 or maybe a bit more.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Clevr]Maybe she`s a freak and wants to see me have fun,maybe for the moment she is in love fine with me; I can`t say I care what it is, but if I go to get a massage unless we come to some kind of agreement, she goes down on me thank you baby. If I have the money and I like her I`ll give her what she wants, if I only have enough for the massage thats all there is to it![/QUOTE]
Well guys, as you can see this is exactly why the girls ask for the money upfront.
Clevr, I'm assuming that your alias shows your view of yourself, which I'm guessing must be related to your ability to "trick' a girl into having sex with you for free.
You see, when you enter an AMP, you are entering a brothel. The massage is only done as a pretext. The use that time to size you up, presumably to determine if you are there to have sex or, I hate to even suggest it LE. I hate to suggest it, because the girls when attempting to determine LE, well it seems they are not frequently successful at actually identifying LE.
When you pay $50 for the massage, you are not actually paying for a massage, as almost none of the girls have a massage license or training. You are simply paying someone for the rent and their ability to bring beautiful girls for your pleasure.
As hard as it might be to believe, apparently we have at least one member that is so delusional, that he believes there is a possibility that in an AMP, the girl might actually be so turned-on by him that she starts sucking his dick within the first 5 minutes of meeting him.
Lastly, Clevr, when you enter one of these places, the analogy I would use, an AMP is similiar to a gas station in the 70's. In both places, we all know what the charges will be without someone verbally telling us. Both places, we pay after we pump.
[QUOTE=Oc Amper]Well guys, as you can see this is exactly why the girls ask for the money upfront.
As hard as it might be to believe, apparently we have at least one member that is so delusional, that he believes there is a possibility that in an AMP, the girl might actually be so turned-on by him that she starts sucking his dick within the first 5 minutes of meeting him.
Lastly, Clevr, when you enter one of these places, the analogy I would use, an AMP is similiar to a gas station in the 70's. In both places, we all know what the charges will be without someone verbally telling us. Both places, we pay after we pump.[/QUOTE]Well put OC! Well put!
Clevr,
You know how these AMPs work. Does it give you joy or something to short change these girls at your discretion?
No absolutely not, when my back is sore and I come up with $60.00 or more for a massage thats why I'm there and if she`s in the sex business she ought to let me know so I can go to get a massage the way I like it.
Man I sincerely hope you were not calling me delusianal
[QUOTE=Oc Amper]Well guys, as you can see this is exactly why the girls ask for the money upfront.
Clevr, I'm assuming that your alias shows your view of yourself, which I'm guessing must be related to your ability to "trick' a girl into having sex with you for free.
You see, when you enter an AMP, you are entering a brothel. The massage is only done as a pretext. The use that time to size you up, presumably to determine if you are there to have sex or, I hate to even suggest it LE. I hate to suggest it, because the girls when attempting to determine LE, well it seems they are not frequently successful at actually identifying LE.
When you pay $50 for the massage, you are not actually paying for a massage, as almost none of the girls have a massage license or training. You are simply paying someone for the rent and their ability to bring beautiful girls for your pleasure.
As hard as it might be to believe, apparently we have at least one member that is so delusional, that he believes there is a possibility that in an AMP, the girl might actually be so turned-on by him that she starts sucking his dick within the first 5 minutes of meeting him.
Lastly, Clevr, when you enter one of these places, the analogy I would use, an AMP is similiar to a gas station in the 70's. In both places, we all know what the charges will be without someone verbally telling us. Both places, we pay after we pump.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Clevr]No absolutely not, when my back is sore and I come up with $60.00 or more for a massage thats why I'm there and if she`s in the sex business she ought to let me know so I can go to get a massage the way I like it.
Man I sincerely hope you were not calling me delusianal[/QUOTE]I'm absolutely stunned that someone on this board, posting in the section, would actually post this and expect anyone to believe that he's not responsible for telling the girl that he only wants a massage.
Delusional doesn't begin to cover it.
There are many times that I expect a good massage and extras.
But in your case, you could have said upfront "I want a massage and nothing else - do you understand?"
[QUOTE=Clevr]No absolutely not, when my back is sore and I come up with $60.00 or more for a massage thats why I'm there and if she`s in the sex business she ought to let me know so I can go to get a massage the way I like it.
Man I sincerely hope you were not calling me delusianal[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cres Prophet]I'm absolutely stunned that someone on this board, posting in the section, would actually post this and expect anyone to believe that he's not responsible for telling the girl that he only wants a massage.
Delusional doesn't begin to cover it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Clevr]No wonder while I was in Vegas @ the AMP the chicks would look at me funny when I said I wanted a BJ for an extra $20.00![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Clevr]I get the hour massage and the girl gives me a 30 min. massage and goes ahead and massages ole homer and ends the massage after 40 min. I have never given a tip.[/QUOTE]
I'd agree, just don't know a stronger word. No wonder why the girls get jaded so quickly.
Your mother must have been a massage girl; cres prophet. Or maybe her nasty behind was a street walker.
Is it any wonder you would recommend some poor old boy go into one of these aids traps and spend his life's savings. hell no!
I believe that the woman who`s doing everything she can to live right and keeps house deserves all that chivalry.
But if you want to exalt the hustler be my guess.
[QUOTE=Oc Amper]I'd agree, just don't know a stronger word. No wonder why the girls get jaded so quickly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Clevr]Your mother must have been a massage girl; cres prophet. Or maybe her nasty behind was a street walker.
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I'm just wondering about the thought process was behind this post, I'm guessing it must have gone something like this.
I have three things I want to say to Cres Prophet:
A - Your mother must have been a massage girl......
B - My father can beat up your dad.....
C - My father is going to sue you......
I know, I'll play rock-paper-scissors with myself!