"Sex and a name sell papers (TV, radio, etc., too)"
Your absolutely right SR. It even made the RI/ NBC TV News.
I pity that poor SOB. And he didn't even get some.
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"Sex and a name sell papers (TV, radio, etc., too)"
Your absolutely right SR. It even made the RI/ NBC TV News.
I pity that poor SOB. And he didn't even get some.
Jeez, that was a harsh article.
First off, nobody in their right mind would have a SW say $10 and not have warning bells go off in their head. Why not just wear a flashing neon sign that says undercover cop? On that count alone, I would agree that Vaughn fell into the classic trap of letting the little head think for the big head.
But even then, there's some problems.
According to the article, this Carl Jones character and a friend were walking down the street when they were approached by the undercover but said that's not their cup of tea. Now isn't that entrapment? If YOU approach them, that's solicitation, but being approached by THEM is a whole other ball of wax. If I was Vaughn's lawyer, I'd get a subpoena on Jones and his friend so fast it'd make their heads spin. This bust has loophole city all over it.
And yeah, perhaps some partake of what most would consider an unsavory activity. Those who do have their reasons for being out there. But Urbinas should have dug back a little further on the board and seen the reaction to when one of the regular SWs was beaten by a john and how many were quite upset and hoping to catch the b@st@rd and give him a beat-down he'd never forget. It's easy to paint people on this board with one big brush, but it's also sloppy journalism as well. But putting a human face on this story wouldn't sell many papers, would it?
And poor Ms Urbinas. She must have been so proud of herself for finding this board, but then saw that things aren't as racy as she thought. She doesn't know the difference between a chat room or a bulletin board either. What a big disappointment.
I second SR Only. If Urbinas wanted a real story, she should look into the profession and why it's still going strong instead of heaping tired platitudes and headline-grabbing cheapshots.
And if LE was really smart, they would know they can never stop this, but might just want to keep it contained to a certain time and area and be upfront about it. Think of all the OT LE could save cutting out undercover late-night details. Send a marked cruiser by every so often making sure things aren't out of control or making things uncomfortable for the civilians.
I think Ms. Urbinas better take a good, long look at her own situation before throwing stones and taking pot shots. Her husband is probably a poster on this board. Judging by that little photo of her, there's no way in hell he'd be satisfied with what she's got. I think she's upset that half the SW's out there are better looking that she'll ever dream of being. The last time I saw a face like hers, it had a hook on the end of it. I'm sure her husband, if she's able to scam anyone into marrying something that's as hideous as herself, has made a few passes down Ashley St. himself, only he just hasn't gotten caught, yet.
A few comments.
1. WSG was compromised by local media ages ago. Nothing new. They just have to be cautious and cite sources of info. She called a chat room for a reason, folks. This is the 4th time I think in recent memory of WSG being singled out for info. Its like they have no other place to go for info. Keep this in mind, folks. They have the forum in their "places to go for info when p4p sex is involved."
If the story gets large enough, expect their cousins in the broadcast media to jump in with an investigation. That means "excellent" surveillance of the area to build a story...and images are judge, jury, and executioner once broadcasted. All you need is an identifiable car, a reporter running up to your car, a license plate number easily ran against public DMV/ police records, etc...and you have a 5 second spot on the evening news.
Not trying to scare, but just be careful, folks. This assistant coach getting pinched puts us all in a fuckin' bind.
Personally...I miss Pagozzi. At least when she went to investigate illicit sex stuff in the area...she participated. :)
2. Walking up to someone and offering sex for cash is not entrapment if it is known the person has a previous predilection to commit the same crime. The cops have the burden in this case to prove. Any recorded lingo that shows that you are a regular is NOT a way to handle this if have to face the MAN. :)
Not trying to be a smartass, but I figure a word of caution will reap untold rewards for someone.
A simple open letter to the fifth column lurking in this group.
Ask yourself why prostitution exists... It certainly doesn't have a reason based in higher moral values. Prostitution exists worldwide. In every city, in every nation, women are plying the oldest trade in existance. It's not stopped by the threat of public embarrassment, humiliation, prosecution. It's not stopped by disease or the threats of physical violence. It's not stopped by inclement weather!
With all of these negative factors, why does prostitution exist? There have to be better jobs... I mean what job can you do 5-10 minutes worth of work with little or no skill, and earn 10-20 dollars? (Geeze... 40-50 dollars an hour?)
And there never seems to be a lack of customers... Actors, actresses, politicians (aren't they all the same?) businessmen, construction workers, football coaches, teachers, preachers, doctors, and deliverymen all help themselves to these services on a daily basis.
Why does it exist!? I'll tell you. It's a secret as old as the profession itself...
Men like sex. Men like sex without an emotional attachment. The three great F's... Find em; F*ck em, Forget em. There's nothing more base than that for a reason. The male of species up and down the animal kingdom have cheap meaningless sex with multiple partners. They don't pray towards Mecca, they don't check the calender before eating fish. They find a female that isn't (or is) willing to bite their heads off and copulate.
New hobby? Just because 1 in 100,000 encounters might result in an embarrassing newspaper article? I'll bet you that it won't stop for that. AIDS hasn't stopped it yet, and there are millions of people that are so paranoid about it that they won't even swap needles while high... No supply? Snigger. There's always someone in the community that's poorer than the rest, and wants to get [a] head.
If you want to stop prostitution, I'll tell you how. Make it less profitable to do anything else. Set up free money clinics where potential hookers can get free money for walking in. Provide free busing to the clinic.
If you did that, 90% of the prostitutes would stop.
The remainder would still walk the streets because the bus ride is too long.... and a five minute workout in a dark alley would get them money for doing what they enjoy, screwing a male out of hard earned cash.
Boston Guy opined:
>>>Think of all the OT LE could save cutting out undercover late-night details. Send a marked cruiser by every so often making sure things aren't out of control or making things uncomfortable for the civilians.<<<
Bzzzzttt! Wrong issue. LE (just like everyone else) likes OT. It makes the regular paycheck so much better (heck, you might be able to spend it gambling, buying food, buying liquor OR god forbid a piece of tail). So I don't think that any of us (LE or otherwise) want to give up OT.
SR Only
Has anyone tried Kayla, who advertises in the advocate as "Barely Legal" and claims she's "absolutely gorgeous" ?
Is it true? How are her services?
JMG
Just had to retort to UbinASS's article: Sometimes sex IS as erotic as dealing in used auto parts. BEEYATCH. (Or to make my message more "endearing": Sumtymes secks Iz az erodik az deeling n yoused awtow parttz.)
Kayla is a cute blond. She is a nice GFE if you get to know her. She works with Christina who used to work in Hartford and now has her own telephone add in the Advocate, at least she did a few weeks ago.
In today's editorials in the Courant. --SR Only
Mr. Vaughan Cuts A Deal
August 25, 2004
University of Connecticut assistant men's basketball coach Clyde Vaughan cut a nice deal Tuesday in Hartford community court. He didn't have to appear or plead to charges that he patronized a prostitute and interfered with a police officer. In a deal worked out by his attorney before the arraignment, Mr. Vaughan agreed to do 10 days of community service and attend a hygiene class. If he completes the program, the charges against him will be dismissed.
University officials, who put Mr. Vaughan on paid leave after learning of the Aug. 18 incident, now have but one correct course: They must ask him to leave UConn.
Mr. Vaughan was one of more than a dozen people arrested in a prostitution sting operation run by police last week on Ashley Street in Hartford. Police say the highly regarded coach tried to pay an undercover police officer $10 for a sexual act and that he struggled with an officer when he learned he was part of a sting.
This is a senseless tragedy. Mr. Vaughan earned the privilege of working for one of the nation's premiere college basketball programs because of his recruiting skills and ability to coach big players. Why would someone jeopardize a great job and the possibility of being a head coach some day by engaging in such stupid life-on-the-edge behavior?
Mr. Vaughan is a teacher and role model for young men whose extraordinary abilities and local fame can cause some to push the envelope regarding their own behavior. Some role model.
http://www.ctnow.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-vaughan.artaug25,1,2172299.story?coll=hc-headlines-editorials
This sleazeball and degenerate has once thing to say to Ms. Urbinas. She should take a walk down Center Street after dark sometime. Write about that situation and then leave us guys alone.
There are still some girls working Hartford if you want to take the time and the risk. I saw a black guy wearing a dress working the Groton area. It also could have been just one really ugly woman, but I did not stop to see for sure.
Just for the record, his deal for probation was nullified by the judge when it was discovered that this was his 3rd arrest for this. He has to appear in court on monday, no special deals this time.
An open comment to Helen Ubinass (no, it's not a typo):
To the right of your column today is an article about a state legislator who pleaded guilty to a count of risk of injury to a minor. This person committeda sex act with his former foster child (who also happens to be of the same gender as this lawmaker) when this child was between 8 & 10 years old. Instead of continuing your harassment of Mr. Vaughan, why don't you write your next column about the individual mentioned above? Or, is that story not juicy enough for your shitstain of a column your write? How about a story on the numerous unsolved murders in this state? How about a column humiliating our former Governor, who wasted MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars on this investigation of his corruption? Ms. Urbinass, there are more important stories out there. Write about them. Leave the people that are out performing community service alone. In my opinion, you're just as big a lowlife as, in your opinion, Mr. Vaughan is. You make me sick.
Well said Wolfman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Urbinass is a COMPLETE MF'n UGLY RETARDED A-HOLE!