Sugarbabies?

[QUOTE=JLZ61;3294386]I've had sporadic communication with these. Searched but wasn't able to find any reports on here. Has anybody run across them? What was the outcome?

Allyssa looks quite familiar. I remember seeing her on SA and on another sugar site. She says she is new but her join date is 2 years ago.

Amriel
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9eadba22-a4f1-497e-afe6-9c7737d5d85e

Allyssa
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/82ea8f9a-afc5-ee73-fb6c-99296c7e311d

-JLZ.[/QUOTE]I passed on Amriel. She gave me a GPS vibe. Alyssa is also known as Amari Rayne: [URL]http://amarirayne.passionandcharm.com[/URL] .

Bam.

She has been on SA and other SB sites for 3-4 years under different profiles and same story thru all the years. I do not remember her previous profile names but she has been reported on before on this site. Amazing what can be done with pictures these days!!

[QUOTE=JLZ61;3294353]Thanks for the heads up on this one. Got to watch out for wackos like that! On the other hand, I happen to be driving a rental car at the moment (got T-boned a few weeks ago) so I supposed I'd be safe! LOL.[/QUOTE]

AHA! I KNEW I'd seen her before. Here's a direct quite from her SA profile:

"I am looking for something long term. Either an arrangement where a are great friends or a relationship. Please no pay per play. ".

Ya got to wonder how many of these women are like Allyssa. She presented herself quite well on her profile and our PM exchanges. Yet she presents herself equally well but completely differently on your link. LOL.

So, here's my question. Suppose we were to categorize all SA women into one of these 6 groups:

Cat 1: real, true blue escorts / prostitutes, whether part time or full time.

Cat 2: GPS hotties who are just playing around for ego or whatever and aren't really interested in either the $$ or the relationship.

Cat 3: women who are curious and just trying the SA thing out; they might do a one night stand or two but aren't real SBs.

Cat 4: normal women who have gotten themselves into a temporary financial pickle and are fucking SDs simply to dig themselves out of a hole.

Cat 5: real, true blue SBs looking for the traditional gig with $$ equal to if not more important than the relationship.

Cat 6: women looking for a significant other or are focused on some sort of relationship more than the $$.

Yes, I realize these are not perfect categories and yes, there is some overlap. That said, what percentages would you give each category?

[QUOTE=BamBam;3294543]I passed on Amriel. She gave me a GPS vibe. Alyssa is also known as Amari Rayne: [URL]http://amarirayne.passionandcharm.com[/URL] .

Bam.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VSfun;3294731]She has been on SA and other SB sites for 3-4 years under different profiles and same story thru all the years. I do not remember her previous profile names but she has been reported on before on this site. Amazing what can be done with pictures these days!![/QUOTE]And general history seems to indicate that she's a nut job.

[QUOTE=BamBam;3294326]I met her for lunch. All seemed good until she started complaining about all the cheap men who balk at paying a few hundred for the MnG. I gently pushed back against this and she turned aggressive. I got up and walked out. Unfortunately, she got my plate number and texted it to me as I was leaving. I am not worried she will go further but I wish I had skipped. I have her PII in case anyone else has been threatened by her.

Bam.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f20c0c06-306b-4cb6-bbcf-85a8de75ae9d[/URL][/QUOTE]I met her on another dating site about a year ago, she went by Victoria, we exchanged numbers which lead to months and months of her sob stories wanting me to western union her money. She would get angry everytime because I wouldn't send her anything. She's married with kids, unless that has changed, which I doubt. She's just a scam artist.

This area is worthy of a trip, just to SA! Combination, of colleges, lots of young people moving there, rising cost of living, legal weed, makes this area INCREDIBLE for a SD. In ONE week, had three experiences. One was a top 3 or 4, ever! 21,5'8, Blonde, BEAUTIFUL, slender build, total wet GFE, passionate kissing, in fact we just dry humped and frenched for 30 minutes on the couch before getting down to business, FYI she is not pictured, keeping that one under lock and key! Another is brunette, slender, pretty, 22, not quite as good as number one, but a great experience nevertheless. Last one was a Korean girl, 24, a tad chunkier than I prefer, but a young girl, with a very skilled CIM plus no stop. On my last day I did a two girl meet and greet, they are eager, sexy, fast living, Gucci party girls, but wanted 600 total for the set, I was out of gas at that point, so we shared some drinks and I got some eye candy to look at. I actually had to call off 3 other girls during my stay, cause my plate was full. Ill add them to the list next trip, maybe!. LOL. Can't wait to go back.

[QUOTE=JLZ61;3294781]AHA! I KNEW I'd seen her before. Here's a direct quite from her SA profile:

"I am looking for something long term. Either an arrangement where a are great friends or a relationship. Please no pay per play. ".

Ya got to wonder how many of these women are like Allyssa. She presented herself quite well on her profile and our PM exchanges. Yet she presents herself equally well but completely differently on your link. LOL.

So, here's my question. Suppose we were to categorize all SA women into one of these 6 groups:

Cat 1: real, true blue escorts / prostitutes, whether part time or full time.

Cat 2: GPS hotties who are just playing around for ego or whatever and aren't really interested in either the $$ or the relationship.

Cat 3: women who are curious and just trying the SA thing out; they might do a one night stand or two but aren't real SBs.

Cat 4: normal women who have gotten themselves into a temporary financial pickle and are fucking SDs simply to dig themselves out of a hole.

Cat 5: real, true blue SBs looking for the traditional gig with $$ equal to if not more important than the relationship.

Cat 6: women looking for a significant other or are focused on some sort of relationship more than the $$.

Yes, I realize these are not perfect categories and yes, there is some overlap. That said, what percentages would you give each category?[/QUOTE]First you have to agree on what a true sb is.

For ne this is how it breaks down.

Cat1 is 50%. If they have more than one daddy then they are utr or pro.

Cat2 10% for me gps doesn't exist. If they feel they are worth then who am I to judge. Gps is a term used by guys who get mad at a girl because they won't fuck them at their price. Besides gps would be determined by your financial status.

Cat3 5% get on not really knowing what they are getting into or are scared off by mongers sending a dick pic LOL.

Cat4 30% are here for true financial help only. Nsa, no drama.

Cat 5 here is where definition goes out the window. Most are here for financial help. If your thinking they are fucking you for a relationship then why not do the civy gf / bf. Be a good bf and help with the bills. Cut the sugar and see if they stick around.

Cat6 5% some actually do look for a relationship where $$ don't matter. They just want someone to treat them good. One girl summed it up by giving her 5 to go to the 7-11 then want your change back LOL.

Again it goes on your definition of true sb.

[QUOTE=JLZ61;3294781]AHA! I KNEW I'd seen her before. Here's a direct quite from her SA profile:

So, here's my question. Suppose we were to categorize all SA women into one of these 6 groups:

Cat 1: real, true blue escorts / prostitutes, whether part time or full time.

Cat 2: GPS hotties who are just playing around for ego or whatever and aren't really interested in either the $$ or the relationship.

Cat 3: women who are curious and just trying the SA thing out; they might do a one night stand or two but aren't real SBs.

Cat 4: normal women who have gotten themselves into a temporary financial pickle and are fucking SDs simply to dig themselves out of a hole.

Cat 5: real, true blue SBs looking for the traditional gig with $$ equal to if not more important than the relationship.

Cat 6: women looking for a significant other or are focused on some sort of relationship more than the $$.

Yes, I realize these are not perfect categories and yes, there is some overlap. That said, what percentages would you give each category?[/QUOTE]Have to add at least one additional category: Wallflowers.

Cat 1: These have to include not just the pro's cross-posting on SA and USAG / BP but also the serial SB's who will go with any SD. Occupation: entertainer, dancer, self-employed. I would guess around 15%.

Cat 2: GPS Supermodels: ModelMayhem, WINGs, etc These are women who are not seriously looking but will go if you offer 500,1000, or 1500 per meet. 5%.

Cat 3: These are the women who are window shopping. They might go on a date or two but don't stay around long. Often in the 18 (16) to 22 age range. 20%.

Cat 4: These are the scary ones. (Nando1) They say it's temporary but it is usually a complete lack of life skills. They are looking for the white knight to rescue them. They have the stories about needing medicine for their kids. No car. If they are innocent, can be good SB's but usually too needy. I guess about 20%.

Cat 5: True SB's: single, living alone or with 1-2 kids, profile says student even if it has been awhile, sometimes actual college student, usually smart but naive. I guess 5-10%.

Cat 6: Unicorn hunters: women looking for a 30-40 good-looking, fit, multi-millionaire who desperately needs help getting a date. Usually have 'No married's" in their profile. 5%.

Cat 7: Wallflowers: age 40-65 or BBW or Bface or unable to compose a complete sentence without using text speak, occupation: housecleaner, etc. Just wanting attention from someone/anyone. Can have a LOT of overlap with Cat4: 25%.

Not a scientific assessment but if you want to meet over a beer or coffee to review the most recent 100 sign ups, we could refine the percents.

Bam.

LOL. This is awesome!! One more category, around 2% is all about selling their pics / panties or webcam show for Sugar!!

Other way to breakout SA talent is. For eevery 100 approaches, you hear back 30%, 15% share secondary contact info. . Well, you get the idea. Unless you are like ByronDee, getting these to FC is 5% success rate overall. With some surprises there too. For example, I got a nice looking chick in FC once, only then she told me, she doesn't like it at all but I could just go ahead anyway. Dead fish!!

Just keeping it real or maybe I need to rethink my game.

[QUOTE=BamBam;3295795]Have to add at least one additional category: Wallflowers.

Cat 1: These have to include not just the pro's cross-posting on SA and USAG / BP but also the serial SB's who will go with any SD. Occupation: entertainer, dancer, self-employed. I would guess around 15%.

Cat 2: GPS Supermodels: ModelMayhem, WINGs, etc These are women who are not seriously looking but will go if you offer 500,1000, or 1500 per meet. 5%.

Cat 3: These are the women who are window shopping. They might go on a date or two but don't stay around long. Often in the 18 (16) to 22 age range. 20%.

Cat 4: These are the scary ones. (Nando1) They say it's temporary but it is usually a complete lack of life skills. They are looking for the white knight to rescue them. They have the stories about needing medicine for their kids. No car. If they are innocent, can be good SB's but usually too needy. I guess about 20%.

Cat 5: True SB's: single, living alone or with 1-2 kids, profile says student even if it has been awhile, sometimes actual college student, usually smart but naive. I guess 5-10%.

Cat 6: Unicorn hunters: women looking for a 30-40 good-looking, fit, multi-millionaire who desperately needs help getting a date. Usually have 'No married's" in their profile. 5%.

Cat 7: Wallflowers: age 40-65 or BBW or Bface or unable to compose a complete sentence without using text speak, occupation: housecleaner, etc. Just wanting attention from someone/anyone. Can have a LOT of overlap with Cat4: 25%.

Not a scientific assessment but if you want to meet over a beer or coffee to review the most recent 100 sign ups, we could refine the percents.

Bam.[/QUOTE]

I am taking this one for a test drive this week, this should be fun, she is even letting me film it!. Her rules to me below:

I am a sugar baby first and a submissive second. (I top from the bottom) In order to play with me, you must abide by the following rules:

Inside the bedroom (In a scene) VS outside the bedroom will always be considered two completely separate situations. Outside the bedroom, treat me as a human being with dignity, and not a submissive, * or slave etc.

I agree to submit inside the bedroom to any command or situation UNLESS:

- Any damage that involves loss of mobility or function, including broken bones.

- Any permanent marks on the skin, including scars, burns, or tattoos.

- Any loss of hair.

- Any piercing of the flesh which leaves a permanent hole.

- Any diseases including sexually transmitted diseases.

- Any permanent marks including CUTS (No material shall pierce the skin to draw blood, -excluding limited use of fingernails and scratching).

Continued.

All hard limits:

-*No exchange of the following bodily fluids: piss, shit and vomit.

-*No ass to mouth.

-No ass to vagina without change of condom, or washing of object used to penetrate anally.

-No figging, no piercing, no cupping, no rim jobs*(me to you), no burning, no public humilation, no beastiality.

-No caging or confinement to very small spaces.

-No ball gags or restrictions of my mouth other than your cock unless I give consent. {I will consent to soft gags with the understanding that violent head shaking will substitute for all safe words and stop activity}.

-No bathroom use or bladder control punishment.

-No long fingernails or sharp objects to be used inside my vagina or ass.

-No using a closed fist to "punch" me anywhere.

*Negotiable.

All Soft Limits: To be pushed, but respected.

-Tickling (It's a psychological thing, and I truly doesn't enjoy it at all).

-Hair pulling (Be aware of your own strength, don't rip any out).

-Throat fucking (Can tolerate, but easy on the gag reflex).

-Electrocution (Only on the asscheeck, and I must pre-authroize the device).

-Wax play (Don't get carried away, avoid face, hair, vagina and asshole).

-Flogging (Respect use of safe words, don't make it painful for me to continue having sex).

-Anal (Extra tight! Use plenty of lube and stretch first with toys / fingers).

Contined.

Three safe words.

"Easy" means slow down, ease up pressure, or not so hard next time.

"Blue" means stop whatever is taking place immediately without hesitation.

"Inhaler / asthma" means I literally needs my inhaler, but doesn't necessarily mean stop. (You may need to let me sit up depending on position).

Filming and pictures are permitted under the pretense that no reproduction, sale, or redistribution of said video files ever occurs.

And finally, because safety is most important any punishment must not incur the following forms of abuse:

-Drastic loss of circulation.

-Causing internal bleeding.

-Loss of consciousness, unless agreed upon.

-Withholding of any necessary materials, such as food, water, use of bathroom, sleep, etc. For extended periods of time.

-Tears to the asshole, vagina, or bruising above the neck.

Wow, I would be a apprehensive (healthy worry) if I received such message. Daredevil BDee, you go.

Man. Show her a good time!!

And then share with us. Her info. , if she wants broader participation from the monger community. LOL.

Just kidding dude. ! Stay safe!

[QUOTE=ByronDee;3296514]I am taking this one for a test drive this week, this should be fun, she is even letting me film it!. Her rules to me below:

I am a sugar baby first and a submissive second. (I top from the bottom) In order to play with me, you must abide by the following rules:

Inside the bedroom (In a scene) VS outside the bedroom will always be considered two completely separate situations. Outside the bedroom, treat me as a human being with dignity, and not a submissive, * or slave etc.

I agree to submit inside the bedroom to any command or situation .

-No long fingernails or sharp objects to be used inside my vagina or ass.

-No
"Blue" means stop whatever is taking place immediately without hesitation.

"Inhaler / asthma" means I literally needs my inhaler, but doesn't necessarily mean stop. (You may need to let me sit up depending on position).

Filming and pictures are permitted under the pretense that no reproduction, sale, or redistribution of said video files ever occurs.

-Tears to the asshole, vagina, or bruising above the neck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Babelover77;3296044]LOL. This is awesome!! One more category, around 2% is all about selling their pics / panties or webcam show for Sugar!!

Other way to breakout SA talent is. For eevery 100 approaches, you hear back 30%, 15% share secondary contact info. . Well, you get the idea. Unless you are like ByronDee, getting these to FC is 5% success rate overall. With some surprises there too. For example, I got a nice looking chick in FC once, only then she told me, she doesn't like it at all but I could just go ahead anyway. Dead fish!!

Just keeping it real or maybe I need to rethink my game.[/QUOTE]I forgot about the picture-sellers. I will add them to Cat 3.

Bam.

She reminded of Backpage providers, where they don't provide GFE experience. Don't go dirty with you, doesn't shave their pubic hair and which smells terribly and most important of all are always lying like a dead fish. She was good looking, but was on the fat side, Rates were reasonable but the things mentioned above are the deal breakers.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d52e8d16-a715-4a0e-e8d2-336f5083e4dd[/URL]

[QUOTE=Babelover77;3296746]Wow, I would be a apprehensive (healthy worry) if I received such message. Daredevil BDee, you go.

Man. Show her a good time!!

And then share with us. Her info. , if she wants broader participation from the monger community. LOL.

Just kidding dude. ! Stay safe![/QUOTE]That had a rule about condoms: "The use of condoms for anything other than anal is permitted, but neither required nor desired. After our second meeting, they will only be permitted for anal and as I enjoy the feeling of a man cumming inside of me, you're refusal to do so at least once per meeting will result in the end of our arrangement. ".

This one might fall under another group: Those either needing a substitute baby daddy, or ones looking for an ongoing semi-guaranteed check.

Anyone else jealous of byron's luck with the ladies? Jeez he puts us to shame.