Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=BlindSquirrel;5561911]It's a total scam to steal gullible peoples' money. It's a shame that people are falling for this crap, but it's a bigger shame that it's deteriorating faith in American Democracy.[/QUOTE]Putin is thinking that buying Trump the Presidency using social engineering was the best investment he's ever made. The ROI on paying some trolls in the basement of the Kremlin doing disinformation campaigning has paid off well for him. It's still paying off in Americans', as BlindSquirrel put it, "[I][b]deteriorating faith in American Democracy[/b][/I]" due to Trump's efforts.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;5562709]It's only deteriorating faith in democracy with the kooks and crazies in my party. We used to be the intelligent party. Looks like the only intelligent one left is for godsakes Liz Cheney![/QUOTE]Texas will now to audit their election at the prompting of Trump. Texas. A state he won. By double digits. Is there any further proof needed that the only thing they really expect to find is more money?

[QUOTE=DNut;5562801]Putin is thinking that buying Trump the Presidency using social engineering was the best investment he's ever made. The ROI on paying some trolls in the basement of the Kremlin doing disinformation campaigning has paid off well for him. It's still paying off in Americans', as BlindSquirrel put it, "[I][b]deteriorating faith in American Democracy[/b][/I]" due to Trump's efforts.

Texas will now to audit their election at the prompting of Trump. Texas. A state he won. By double digits. Is there any further proof needed that the only thing they really expect to find is more money?[/QUOTE]LOL this forum still talking about Biden and Trump. Just because Trump was the second worst president in American history doesn't take away from the fact that Biden is the worst. At least with trump we had $1.19 gas and we were in a pandemic. Now we have $2.95 gas and double the food prices in a pandemic.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5563779]LOL this forum still talking about Biden and Trump. Just because Trump was the second worst president in American history doesn't take away from the fact that Biden is the worst. At least with trump we had $1.19 gas and we were in a pandemic. Now we have $2.95 gas and double the food prices in a pandemic.[/QUOTE]Read what you just said again, "At least with trump we had $1. 19 gas and we were in a pandemic. ". Are you actually saying that being in a pandemic is good? Also, do you know why gas was so low then? Because no one was going anywhere because there was no place to go and the SUPPLY far outpaced DEMAND. Now gas is at close to $3 and businesses are open again; with COVID precautions, but they are open thanks (a lot) to the now over 50% vaccination rate. $3/ gallon is good because that means people have places to be, money is moving, businesses are open.

But, in 2021, despite being mentioned over and over and over and over again everywhere, the fact that you seem to still don't know that gas prices are set by supply and demand, an not by any policy the current President sets, (notwithstanding the just as idiotic "but the President can open the national emergency reserves" comments) just shows are truly ignorant you are. If you did know it, you must think of yourself as some "stable genius" with "the biggest brain" because "no one was talking about", that no one else knew. News flash: Everyone knows.

Let's take a look at how the economy is doing over the past year, and over the past 5 years. OH Look! Record highs. Imagine that.

[QUOTE=DNut;5563822]Read what you just said again, "At least with trump we had $1. 19 gas and we were in a pandemic. ". Are you actually saying that being in a pandemic is good? Also, do you know why gas was so low then? Because no one was going anywhere because there was no place to go and the SUPPLY far outpaced DEMAND. Now gas is at close to $3 and businesses are open again; with COVID precautions, but they are open thanks (a lot) to the now over 50% vaccination rate. $3/ gallon is good because that means people have places to be, money is moving, businesses are open.

But, in 2021, despite being mentioned over and over and over and over again everywhere, the fact that you seem to still don't know that gas prices are set by supply and demand, an not by any policy the current President sets, (notwithstanding the just as idiotic "but the President can open the national emergency reserves" comments) just shows are truly ignorant you are. If you did know it, you must think of yourself as some "stable genius" with "the biggest brain" because "no one was talking about", that no one else knew. News flash: Everyone knows.

Let's take a look at how the economy is doing over the past year, and over the past 5 years. OH Look! Record highs. Imagine that.[/QUOTE]1. I really like your participation in other sections of the forum but, honestly, I don't know how ANYONE can stick up for Biden with his track record--regardless how muchTrump is despised.

2. You referred to 2 stock market graphs and then say, "Oh, look--record highs". Correct! And 4 of the 5 years you referred to were Trump's years.

3. Whenever anyone referred to stock market gains during Trump's administration, Pelosi, Chuck Shumer, et al said it was all bullshit because the "stock market is for rich people". Now that Biden's in office we bow down before the stock market. What hypocrites.

4. You say businesses are open again thanks to the vacination rate. Well, what about the guy who got the vaccine created? C'Mon., Man (as Biden would say) --love him or hate him, Trump did some good things. How come you guys can't admit that?

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5562789]Don't forget Adam Kinzinger. Guy has the best IDGAF attitude towards the crazies in his party.[/QUOTE]Forgot about him. Standup guy. So few left anymore. Most are spineless cowards like Josh Hawley.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5564242]1. I really like your participation in other sections of the forum but, honestly, I don't know how ANYONE can stick up for Biden with his track record--regardless how muchTrump is despised.

How come you guys can't admit that?[/QUOTE]Trump destroyed democracy, norms, societal progress, foreign relations, the state department, the intelligence community, the rule of law. Just off the top of my head.

That's a lot of destruction. 4 years worth of destruction!

And you honestly use "Biden with his track record".

He's been in office 8 months. Good god man.

[QUOTE=DNut;5563822]Read what you just said again, "At least with trump we had $1. 19 gas and we were in a pandemic. ". Are you actually saying that being in a pandemic is good? Also, do you know why gas was so low then? Because no one was going anywhere because there was no place to go and the SUPPLY far outpaced DEMAND. Now gas is at close to $3 and businesses are open again; with COVID precautions, but they are open thanks (a lot) to the now over 50% vaccination rate. $3/ gallon is good because that means people have places to be, money is moving, businesses are open.

But, in 2021, despite being mentioned over and over and over and over again everywhere, the fact that you seem to still don't know that gas prices are set by supply and demand, an not by any policy the current President sets, (notwithstanding the just as idiotic "but the President can open the national emergency reserves" comments) just shows are truly ignorant you are. If you did know it, you must think of yourself as some "stable genius" with "the biggest brain" because "no one was talking about", that no one else knew. News flash: Everyone knows.

Let's take a look at how the economy is doing over the past year, and over the past 5 years. OH Look! Record highs. Imagine that.[/QUOTE]The only reason were doing this well in 2021 is because Trump brought jobs back and Bidens policies haven't had the chance to do their damage. In 2024 it will take a bachelors degree to make $8 an hour because Biden has shipped all of the jobs away and allowed illegals to take over our country and get free health care while we have to pay for it, meanwhile were wasting the rest of our tax dollars on prosecuting the average mailman for buying a BJ or pussy from a woman. Biden is performing so poorly I would not be all suprised if Trump wins in 2024. Which again, is holding this country back, because we still have politicians born in the 1940's in office. All you have to do is go back to the Obama days. There were stacks of applications on peoples desks to make minimum wage and nobody could get a good job because his policies cost Americans jobs. I personally went from making 25-30 k during the Obama days to 60 K today thanks to Trump. I'm a dem, but the modern democratic party is not the way to go. Not saying the republican party is any better, but the modern democratic party is ruining this country. This is all inconsequential to me as I live in a house worth less then a car, and I can and have lived off of 20000 a year. I feel for the people living on the edge that Biden is taking money from to give to illegal criminals.

i also may add Dnut that youre a great contributor and no disrespect meant, this is all based on my personal experiences and observation.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5564303]The only reason were doing this well in 2021 is because Trump brought jobs back and Bidens policies haven't had the chance to do their damage. In 2024 it will take a bachelors degree to make $8 an hour because Biden has shipped all of the jobs away and allowed illegals to take over our country and get free health care while we have to pay for it, [/QUOTE]Trump brought jobs back? In 4 years he barely scratches 1% off the unemployment rate before COVID. Compare that to the previous administration that took off over 6%.

The rest of your post is white nationalistic replacement theory bullshit wrapped up in fortune telling nonsense because predicting the future does not require backing it up with facts. It's Tucker Carlson dressed up like Carnak the Magnificent.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;5564281]Trump destroyed democracy, norms, societal progress, foreign relations, the state department, the intelligence community, the rule of law. Just off the top of my head.

That's a lot of destruction. 4 years worth of destruction!

And you honestly use "Biden with his track record".

He's been in office 8 months. Good god man.[/QUOTE]Yes, Biden's been in office 9 months and in that short time we have hundreds of thousands of undocumented aliens streaming across the border and being dispersed all over the country, including Cincinnati. So we now have to pay to educate their kids, hire more translators for the classrooms and shower them with all the federal, state and local handouts. What else? Hmmm. Let's see-.

The Taliban is now back in control and we have citizens trapped in that shithole. The Supreme Court tells him the landlord / tennant program is illegal but he PUBLICLY states that he'll keep doing it anyway. Inflation is getting WAY out of control. His VEEP is a useless piece of shit who is TOTALLY clueless and Biden, himself, won't take a question from a reporter unless he (or his "handlers") approve the question first and then coach the fucking idiot on what to say. Good job, Joe.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5564519]Yes, Biden's been in office 9 months and in that short time we have hundreds of thousands of undocumented aliens streaming across the border and being dispersed all over the country, including Cincinnati. So we now have to pay to educate their kids, hire more translators for the classrooms and shower them with all the federal, state and local handouts. What else? Hmmm. Let's see-.

The Taliban is now back in control and we have citizens trapped in that shithole. The Supreme Court tells him the landlord / tennant program is illegal but he PUBLICLY states that he'll keep doing it anyway. Inflation is getting WAY out of control. His VEEP is a useless piece of shit who is TOTALLY clueless and Biden, himself, won't take a question from a reporter unless he (or his "handlers") approve the question first and then coach the fucking idiot on what to say. Good job, Joe.[/QUOTE]You have a lot of hatred in your heart Kenny. Clearly you are a racist. Let's start with that.

The idiocy of undocumenteds being "showered" as you say is a lie that's been spread so many million times, racists like you believe that shit. Even though it is false. Racist against Harris. Probably don't like that she's a female also. Never mind the fact that her IQ is probably higher than most anyone on this board. But she's as you say "clueless ".

The Taliban that Trump negotiated with is now in control, who could have thought THAT?!

In any case, we DO KNOW for an absolute fact that all of the destruction I listed is not happening or going to happen in this administration. Which is much closer to a "real" Republican administration, minus the fetish for starting wars.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5564303]The only reason were doing this well in 2021 is because Trump brought jobs back and Bidens policies haven't had the chance to do their damage. In 2024 it will take a bachelors degree to make $8 an hour because Biden has shipped all of the jobs away and allowed illegals to take over our country and get free health care while we have to pay for it, meanwhile were wasting the rest of our tax dollars on prosecuting the average mailman for buying a BJ or pussy from a woman. Biden is performing so poorly I would not be all suprised if Trump wins in 2024. Which again, is holding this country back, because we still have politicians born in the 1940's in office. All you have to do is go back to the Obama days. There were stacks of applications on peoples desks to make minimum wage and nobody could get a good job because his policies cost Americans jobs. I personally went from making 25-30 k during the Obama days to 60 K today thanks to Trump. I'm a dem, but the modern democratic party is not the way to go. Not saying the republican party is any better, but the modern democratic party is ruining this country. This is all inconsequential to me as I live in a house worth less then a car, and I can and have lived off of 20000 a year. I feel for the people living on the edge that Biden is taking money from to give to illegal criminals.

i also may add Dnut that youre a great contributor and no disrespect meant, this is all based on my personal experiences and observation.[/QUOTE]I seriously didn't know there were so many racists on this board, and so many gullible people that believe that illegals get free stuff from the government. Bizarre.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;5564602]I seriously didn't know there were so many racists on this board, and so many gullible people that believe that illegals get free stuff from the government. Bizarre.[/QUOTE]The whole bit about a black woman, or "welfare queen," driving around in a limo to pick up her welfare checks. The entire conservative block seized on that fake tale as THE evidence of a broken system that does nothing but pay people off to do nothing.

I'd invite those same people to take a trip through eastern Kentucky or rural Appalachia in general. Plenty of white trash that votes republican, bashes freeloaders, and are generally racist. Oh yeah, they all collect disability, social security, and FAFSA.

All this is only mildly interesting because we are ass-raped much more by the military-industrial complex than by people gaming the entitlement systems.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;5564602]I seriously didn't know there were so many racists on this board, and so many gullible people that believe that illegals get free stuff from the government. Bizarre.[/QUOTE]Racist? Bro I'm a minority. And my ancestors came to the country legally. I said nothing about race, I was talking about legal citizen vs illegal alien. If we have to pay for stuff and legally go through the immigration process so should they. If you want to look at racist how about the policies that Kamala Harris enforced to lock up minorities for weed, and then followed that up and laughed about smoking weed on television. Or Biden for writing the crime bill that targets minorities.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5564710]I was talking about legal citizen vs illegal alien. If we have to pay for stuff and legally go through the immigration process so should they..[/QUOTE]You don't have to pay for ANY of their stuff.

And yeah, right, Kamala is a racist. That's about as stupid as saying trump is a Christian. LOL.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5564651]The whole bit about a black woman, or "welfare queen," driving around in a limo to pick up her welfare checks. The entire conservative block seized on that fake tale as THE evidence of a broken system that does nothing but pay people off to do nothing.

All this is only mildly interesting because we are ass-raped much more by the military-industrial complex than by people gaming the entitlement systems.[/QUOTE]Yes we are. That has been like that ever since Eisenhower warned about it. Multi-Trillions.