"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=SugarDaddyX;3482928]I've probably had around a 75% flake rate because I go after the younger twenties SB's. I almost expect flaking with these Millennials. Their word means nothing. I think alot of women don't think we are going to actually show up, so they use it as a shit test to see if we are really serious about meeting. I've had a number of girls flake on me once or twice, but then when they see I am serious and don't get mad at them, they show up for the second or third time we agree to meet. I use the flakiness to my advantage. When they want a high allowance at the meet and greet, I say something like, "Well, you have flaked on me 2 times. I need to see that you are serious about not wasting my time before moving up to the full allowance. " I had a girl flake on me twice recently. When she finally did show up on the third proposed meet, I ended up fucking her for free.

I call or text within an hour or two of the meet to confirm they are coming. If they go silent, I don't bother to show up. My time is far more valuable than hers.

SDX.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's kind of my attitude. I'll go radio silent. I'd still meet them if they ever contacted me again, but they would need to initiate interest & have to meet near my place now. I'm not going out of my way anymore- that looks weak. I'm sure I wouldn't be feeling very generous I don't care how hot they look (aka I'd need to get a freebie to make up for getting flaked on). Hmnn.... calling or texting an hour or two before is a good idea. Maybe I'll use that tip. Anything to try and reduce the flake %.

I always text an hour before I leave and then 5-10 min before I leave. I explain to the girl that I can't leave until I get a return text. I've broken that rule on occasion and 99% of the time she flaked on me.

Good hunting!

Travelin.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddyX;3482928]I've probably had around a 75% flake rate because I go after the younger twenties SB's. I almost expect flaking with these Millennials. Their word means nothing. I think alot of women don't think we are going to actually show up, so they use it as a shit test to see if we are really serious about meeting. I've had a number of girls flake on me once or twice, but then when they see I am serious and don't get mad at them, they show up for the second or third time we agree to meet. I use the flakiness to my advantage. When they want a high allowance at the meet and greet, I say something like, "Well, you have flaked on me 2 times. I need to see that you are serious about not wasting my time before moving up to the full allowance. " I had a girl flake on me twice recently. When she finally did show up on the third proposed meet, I ended up fucking her for free.

I call or text within an hour or two of the meet to confirm they are coming. If they go silent, I don't bother to show up. My time is far more valuable than hers.

SDX.[/QUOTE]

I am just getting my SA game up and running. Mostly just chatting with the girls I find cute until I figure out the when, where, how much, etc details of what I really want + how to get it.

When I have no idea what to say, to keep things going I ask "So how's your search for a daddy going?" If they've got "I'm not an escort...looking for a friend!" plastered across their profile I try to temper it with "new friend" instead of daddy.

I get a LOT of feedback from this question. Interestingly a lot of them say not good. And some have complained of excessive flaking and fakes. One girl said everyone wants to chat but no one wants to actually meet up. Maybe not for the price she is demanding I guess.

I've messaged hundreds of girls on SA and I think I met about 15 of them since December. The flake rate is extremely high and it has gotten worse. First a lot of these girls make it easy to find them on Facebook and verify if they're real. If I verify her on FB I don't mention to her, hey I found you on Facebook ". I think some guys tell them and that scares them away and they ghost after being discovered.

I offer big money to them at first, I put a lot of meat on that hook to get them to meet and try an arrangement. I have fucked maybe 10 or 12 and some of them several times, but they still vanish. I have vanished on some because I'm looking for that next better pussy and I'm sure with them, they're looking for that richer better looking guy.

I wish the membership wasn't so expensive on that website and the cost of hotels really adds up with the SB hobby. It's fun and I have fucked some really good pussy I would never find with a provider.

One question, one comment.

What do you mean by "I offer big money to them at first"? For the meet and greet, for a per meet allowance, for a monthly allowance and how big is "big"?

I agree with finding them on Facebook scaring them away. People also need to be careful that if you viewed them on Facebook, you will show up in their "people you may know" list under friend requests. You will need to block their profile to prevent this after you have viewed them.

[QUOTE=JimRob;3484619]I've messaged hundreds of girls on SA and I think I met about 15 of them since December. The flake rate is extremely high and it has gotten worse. First a lot of these girls make it easy to find them on Facebook and verify if they're real. If I verify her on FB I don't mention to her, hey I found you on Facebook ". I think some guys tell them and that scares them away and they ghost after being discovered.

I offer big money to them at first, I put a lot of meat on that hook to get them to meet and try an arrangement. I have fucked maybe 10 or 12 and some of them several times, but they still vanish. I have vanished on some because I'm looking for that next better pussy and I'm sure with them, they're looking for that richer better looking guy.

I wish the membership wasn't so expensive on that website and the cost of hotels really adds up with the SB hobby. It's fun and I have fucked some really good pussy I would never find with a provider.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NeedyUnchin;3484436]I am just getting my SA game up and running. Mostly just chatting with the girls I find cute until I figure out the when, where, how much, etc details of what I really want + how to get it.

When I have no idea what to say, to keep things going I ask "So how's your search for a daddy going?" If they've got "I'm not an escort...looking for a friend!" plastered across their profile I try to temper it with "new friend" instead of daddy.

I get a LOT of feedback from this question. Interestingly a lot of them say not good. And some have complained of excessive flaking and fakes. One girl said everyone wants to chat but no one wants to actually meet up. Maybe not for the price she is demanding I guess.[/QUOTE]My best luck comes from ones that agree to meet that day or the next from when I first message them. Although yesterday I messaged one at lunch and she agreed to meet me at Coldstone at 8 pm that night. I drove 30 miles and she cancelled at 753 pm as I was just pulling in.

Got home by 845 and found another new one online and meet her for lunch today. Meeting up again one night next week for private time. So not feeling so bad about the ice cream no show gal now.

All right, so do you guys just ignore these girls' profiles? I mean are there girls really being taken on yacht rides and trips to the Bahamas?

That is WAYYY beyond what I'm looking for / willing to give. Basically just looking for a few cute sexy FWBs to have a little fun with. I mean if we need to grab coffee to confirm I'm not a creep I get it, but wining and dining and night life seems a bit much. I am pretty comfortable financially but I don't live a flashy extravagant life.

There are so many that paint this picture of Prince Charming riding in on a horse and dazzling them with exciting adventures. Is this for real or bullshit?

Then there are the girls "looking for a platonic relationship. " Wait wut? Is this a shit test of some sort? Why are they on the site?

Also, I am not sure if I should be trying to charm them with my text banter (probably an uphill battle because it's just not a strength of mine) or just a little small talk then get right to the point with a formal intro and invite to meet.

And these top tier girls, do you just handle them the same? They come across like they're hunting for Moby Dick with their expectations.

Sorry for the rant. Feeling a little confused and overwhelmed.

I have more questions but I will continue to study the forum and wait a while.

P.S. I really appreciate this forum. I've been reading forward from page 500. Sometimes though, there are so many details and insights I lose the big picture.

[QUOTE=NeedyUnchin;3486343]All right, so do you guys just ignore these girls' profiles? I mean are there girls really being taken on yacht rides and trips to the Bahamas?

That is WAYYY beyond what I'm looking for / willing to give. Basically just looking for a few cute sexy FWBs to have a little fun with. I mean if we need to grab coffee to confirm I'm not a creep I get it, but wining and dining and night life seems a bit much. I am pretty comfortable financially but I don't live a flashy extravagant life.

There are so many that paint this picture of Prince Charming riding in on a horse and dazzling them with exciting adventures. Is this for real or bullshit?

Then there are the girls "looking for a platonic relationship. " Wait wut? Is this a shit test of some sort? Why are they on the site?

Also, I am not sure if I should be trying to charm them with my text banter (probably an uphill battle because it's just not a strength of mine) or just a little small talk then get right to the point with a formal intro and invite to meet.

And these top tier girls, do you just handle them the same? They come across like they're hunting for Moby Dick with their expectations.

Sorry for the rant. Feeling a little confused and overwhelmed.

I have more questions but I will continue to study the forum and wait a while.

P.S. I really appreciate this forum. I've been reading forward from page 500. Sometimes though, there are so many details and insights I lose the big picture.[/QUOTE]Yes some of these girls are crazy waiting for that rich brad Pitt guy to show up and take them away on a private jet. Those girls are not serious and wasting time on the website. Then the girls that want to be wined and dined, hello I'm married, I don't.

Have time or want to date, that's called a girlfriend.

Then the girls that want platonic only relationship, I already pay my wife for that, I'm not paying another woman not to fuck.

My strategy is this, and I'm not sure I shoud say.

[QUOTE=NeedyUnchin;3486343]All right, so do you guys just ignore these girls' profiles? I mean are there girls really being taken on yacht rides and trips to the Bahamas?

That is WAYYY beyond what I'm looking for / willing to give. Basically just looking for a few cute sexy FWBs to have a little fun with. I mean if we need to grab coffee to confirm I'm not a creep I get it, but wining and dining and night life seems a bit much. I am pretty comfortable financially but I don't live a flashy extravagant life.

There are so many that paint this picture of Prince Charming riding in on a horse and dazzling them with exciting adventures. Is this for real or bullshit?

Then there are the girls "looking for a platonic relationship. " Wait wut? Is this a shit test of some sort? Why are they on the site?

Also, I am not sure if I should be trying to charm them with my text banter (probably an uphill battle because it's just not a strength of mine) or just a little small talk then get right to the point with a formal intro and invite to meet.

And these top tier girls, do you just handle them the same? They come across like they're hunting for Moby Dick with their expectations.

Sorry for the rant. Feeling a little confused and overwhelmed.

I have more questions but I will continue to study the forum and wait a while.

P.S. I really appreciate this forum. I've been reading forward from page 500. Sometimes though, there are so many details and insights I lose the big picture.[/QUOTE]This isn't rocket science and why guys want to make it so complicated I never understand. First with so many girls to choose from why do girls that you feel are out of your reach bother you? Move on to what's available for you. Now some girls on sa expect something more than a fuck. Some like to be wined and dined which shouldn't be a problem. Some guys like doing that. Then there is the pros and utr girls who don't need that are staight to business. What I'm trying to convey is that there is something for everyones budget so why let the other stuff bother you. Its a mutual beneficial arrangement and everyone has different wants and needs. What really screws things up is definition of a sb. No one can agree on that definition. A good personality goes along way in this so if don't have a gift of gab then some girls not looking for a straight transaction is going to be lost to ya. A true sb is going to be a big step up from whatever level of mongering your used to. They require time and effort and only you can decide what your wanting to put in it. Its not complicated so don't make it that way.

My previous college bunny was amazing but there was hot bench strength. This new one is doubly amazing. My favorite thing is when she rims my ass and strokes me as she giggles. But her deep-throating and writhing and moaning while sitting on my cock are not talents to be ignored.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3487374]My previous college bunny was amazing but there was hot bench strength. This new one is doubly amazing. My favorite thing is when she rims my ass and strokes me as she giggles. But her deep-throating and writhing and moaning while sitting on my cock are not talents to be ignored.[/QUOTE]You just got to love these HYBs! Who's idea was the mask?

Keep up the good work.

Scott.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3487374]My previous college bunny was amazing but there was hot bench strength. This new one is doubly amazing. My favorite thing is when she rims my ass and strokes me as she giggles. But her deep-throating and writhing and moaning while sitting on my cock are not talents to be ignored.[/QUOTE]You are a lucky dude, she sounds / looks hot even w / a mask.

[QUOTE=FScott;3487433]You just got to love these HYBs! Who's idea was the mask?

Keep up the good work.

Scott.[/QUOTE]Her idea. My mask. She didn't mind pics, just didn't want it to be totally obvious. A mask provides plausible deniability.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3487374]My previous college bunny was amazing but there was hot bench strength. This new one is doubly amazing. My favorite thing is when she rims my ass and strokes me as she giggles. But her deep-throating and writhing and moaning while sitting on my cock are not talents to be ignored.[/QUOTE]Looks like Batgirl once again saves the day by quelling an uprising in Gotham City haha! She looks awesome.

[QUOTE=Kellster;3489401]Looks like Batgirl once again saves the day by quelling an uprising in Gotham City haha! She looks awesome.[/QUOTE].LMFAO! Here's a few more of "batgirl quelling the uprising." I should hire you to write my posts.