[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;3473769]My average has been closer to 100%.[/QUOTE]Not quite 100 for me, but close.
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[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;3473769]My average has been closer to 100%.[/QUOTE]Not quite 100 for me, but close.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;3473846]Not quite 100 for me, but close.[/QUOTE]Currently BBFS with a college student after things got a bit hot one night and we skipped the condom. Been BB ever since. Others before that, I hadn't asked and it didn't come up so on went the condom.
Almost 100 for me. The only exceptions have been girls that were much closer to UTR's than true SBs.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;3473846]Not quite 100 for me, but close.[/QUOTE]
Baltimore / DC area SA member. And I totally agree with you on this one.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3469445]I like to ask girls I contact what their experience is in having arrangements. I have no real proof for my translator and I'd like to hear other's opinion.
When a girl says. This is what I hear:
I just joined the site and I've never met anyone. She's new, likely never met anyone.
I've had an online arrangement. I've met and banged a number of guys, can count them on one hand.
I've had one long term arrangement. I've met and banged a fair number of guys, maybe a dozen maybe more.
I've had a number of short arrangements. I've lost count how many guys I've met, might as well be a pro.
Any thoughts on my math?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3474006]Almost 100 for me. The only exceptions have been girls that were much closer to UTR's than true SBs.[/QUOTE]I've met about 15 since December and 95% want it raw.
Last girl I was with wanted me to bring a condom and I did, but during heavy make out she asked if I had condom and I said yes and she then said I want to try you first without a condom. Spent so many years with pros I got so use to girls always wanting rubbers that I got use to it and I was shocked with sa girls wanting it raw. Yes sa girls are mostly college girls 18 to 24 and new that just want sex and get paid with no bf commitment. The money is way higher, but the quality is insane!
Hi guys,
Anyone have any interaction with Ms. Worthy from the Richmond page. We've been talking and she seems legit but is currently located in Ocean View down in Norfolk. Before I drive down there for a M&G I just wondered if anyone has had any experience with her. You can private message me if you don't want to share in public.
Thanks!
Starkey.
[QUOTE=Starkey2008;3479731]Hi guys,
Anyone have any interaction with Ms. Worthy from the Richmond page. We've been talking and she seems legit but is currently located in Ocean View down in Norfolk. Before I drive down there for a M&G I just wondered if anyone has had any experience with her. You can private message me if you don't want to share in public.
Thanks!
Starkey.[/QUOTE]Yes, I've had some conversation with her. Found her FB from her phone number, so pics are legit. Seemed to have a bit of GPS with me. I was in Richmond for a week, trying to schedule something around my work time and she got really snippy with me, too. Her time is valuable, she doesn't like people "making demands", she'll contact me when she has time, etc. I was never demanding with her; all I wanted to know was what her schedule was so we could see if a m&g could be scheduled. Attitude taken as a whole, I quit contacting her.
On a general note, I will be in RVA for 3 more weeks over the next couple of months. Spend a lot of time seeking out Richmond potentials on SA. Got one to the hotel, who then told me she was too tired to stay. But expected 100 for hanging out and kissing / letting me see her tits as she left. Several others flaked on me, or wouldn't / couldn't commit due to scheduling issues. I understand the scheduling problems, but for the two that no-showed, there is no excuse for that. So my next week is coming up, and so far, nothing scheduled.
Anyone have a good value for time / money spent SB or UTR they'd be willing to share with a poor relative from the ass-end of the state, LOL? (Abingdon area) I'd return the favor, but I bet most of you guys are too smart to travel to our godforsaken area expecting to get laid. Never thought it'd be so tough to get laid in such a big city!
RR.
My experience has been a large number will go for it. The more amateur the more likely. This does not mean you should assume they are clean, safe, or on birth control. Don't be stupid. Not saying you can't enjoy bareback, but do so once you know and trust the person and even then be prepared and get tested frequently. Chlamydia is rampant and it is asymptomatic in some. Herpes is even more rampant and the girl may not know or realize she has it. And if you don't feel like you can talk to her about birth control or trust her response, then you probably shouldn't be willing to put your dick in her.
Well I made 4 dates. 2 of them blew me off- and not in a good way. Seriously what's the deal with all the flaking? I mean 50% flake rate- really? Can you senior sugar experts find out from your regular sugar babies why women flake so often on this site? One was 26 and she confirmed the day of if we we're still on- and then the infamous no show, radio silence, and profile gone or blocked. The other was 50 and no showed despite texting me a few days ago saying she was looking forward to it. Her profile vanished a few days prior to our meetup but we were texting setting up plans. Once again when I texted her where was she I got radio silence. Finally, others are on the site however they don't login regularly & check their emails. I can understand if they have a regular but seriously why are they even on there then? Are they inundated with a ton of messages? Are there a bunch of fake profiles just pretending to be available sugar babies? Ugh so frustrating! I just don't get it.
[QUOTE=Kellster;3481481]Well I made 4 dates. 2 of them blew me off- and not in a good way. Seriously what's the deal with all the flaking? I mean 50% flake rate- really? Can you senior sugar experts find out from your regular sugar babies why women flake so often on this site? One was 26 and she confirmed the day of if we we're still on- and then the infamous no show, radio silence, and profile gone or blocked. The other was 50 and no showed despite texting me a few days ago saying she was looking forward to it. Her profile vanished a few days prior to our meetup but we were texting setting up plans. Once again when I texted her where was she I got radio silence. Finally, others are on the site however they don't login regularly & check their emails. I can understand if they have a regular but seriously why are they even on there then? Are they inundated with a ton of messages? Are there a bunch of fake profiles just pretending to be available sugar babies? Ugh so frustrating! I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]LOL first of they are women. Secondly for most its not a livelihood so they get to you when its convenient for them. Most if truly interested will keep in touch and do a m / g in a timely manner. There are game players on both sides, some just chicken out, some get better offers and some do it just because they can so no one reason they flake. Like you said it happens from all age brackets. Its just part of the sb / sd game.
I don't think there is any one answer, but I think there are some common trends I've noticed.
I personally like the reluctant SBs. They are interesting in older successful men, but don't want to think of themselves as "prostitutes". They aren't as hardened or business like as most escorts or UTR's. They genuinely enjoy the sexual experience, want to be treated like a girl friend and often are willing to stay the night.
Unfortunately, this type of girl also has many doubts about what they are doing and can easily get cold feet. Some of the "straight forward" messages by guys offering explicit P4 P make them question themselves even more.
I've had several girls flake last minute or go silent prior to meeting. I've also had crazy multiple round all nighters with cheerleaders, athletes, Hooters girls, models, fitness contestants, etc.
With great risk comes great rewards!
[QUOTE=Kellster;3481481]Well I made 4 dates. 2 of them blew me off- and not in a good way. Seriously what's the deal with all the flaking? I mean 50% flake rate- really? Can you senior sugar experts find out from your regular sugar babies why women flake so often on this site? One was 26 and she confirmed the day of if we we're still on- and then the infamous no show, radio silence, and profile gone or blocked. The other was 50 and no showed despite texting me a few days ago saying she was looking forward to it. Her profile vanished a few days prior to our meetup but we were texting setting up plans. Once again when I texted her where was she I got radio silence. Finally, others are on the site however they don't login regularly & check their emails. I can understand if they have a regular but seriously why are they even on there then? Are they inundated with a ton of messages? Are there a bunch of fake profiles just pretending to be available sugar babies? Ugh so frustrating! I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]
I will PM you some info when I'm back in my office!
Starkey.
[QUOTE=Rrguy;3479815]Yes, I've had some conversation with her. Found her FB from her phone number, so pics are legit. Seemed to have a bit of GPS with me. I was in Richmond for a week, trying to schedule something around my work time and she got really snippy with me, too. Her time is valuable, she doesn't like people "making demands", she'll contact me when she has time, etc. I was never demanding with her; all I wanted to know was what her schedule was so we could see if a m&g could be scheduled. Attitude taken as a whole, I quit contacting her.
On a general note, I will be in RVA for 3 more weeks over the next couple of months. Spend a lot of time seeking out Richmond potentials on SA. Got one to the hotel, who then told me she was too tired to stay. But expected 100 for hanging out and kissing / letting me see her tits as she left. Several others flaked on me, or wouldn't / couldn't commit due to scheduling issues. I understand the scheduling problems, but for the two that no-showed, there is no excuse for that. So my next week is coming up, and so far, nothing scheduled.
Anyone have a good value for time / money spent SB or UTR they'd be willing to share with a poor relative from the ass-end of the state, LOL? (Abingdon area) I'd return the favor, but I bet most of you guys are too smart to travel to our godforsaken area expecting to get laid. Never thought it'd be so tough to get laid in such a big city!
RR.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3481732]I don't think there is any one answer, but I think there are some common trends I've noticed.
I personally like the reluctant SBs. They are interesting in older successful men, but don't want to think of themselves as "prostitutes". They aren't as hardened or business like as most escorts or UTR's. They genuinely enjoy the sexual experience, want to be treated like a girl friend and often are willing to stay the night.
Unfortunately, this type of girl also has many doubts about what they are doing and can easily get cold feet. Some of the "straight forward" messages by guys offering explicit P4 P make them question themselves even more.
I've had several girls flake last minute or go silent prior to meeting. I've also had crazy multiple round all nighters with cheerleaders, athletes, Hooters girls, models, fitness contestants, etc.
With great risk comes great rewards![/QUOTE]I know patience is a virtue, especially on this dating site, but so far it's really frustrating. I mean I never send lewd messages and treat every meet and greet & email, for that matter, like a [URL]Match.com[/URL] date. We meet for an appetizer / coffee with no expectations and see if we hit it off. Even if she's not in the mood that night that's fine. I thought for sure it was the younger babies that pulled that crap. Never expected an older one to do it, or for that matter, any age chick after they confirm that we're on to do that. Why the hell did they confirm we were meeting then? Ugh! I'll keep at it since it's probably a numbers game, but I have to admit I'm reluctant to travel downtown in my local area, at least often, or drive too far for meet and greets because the flake factor is just so high and I don't like wasting my time with such a poor show up %.
I know, it's a real pet peeve of mine too. I now go in with the expectation of a 1/2 to 2/3 flake factor. Anyone doing this with a 10% or even 25% flake factor is a frigging genius. I've adjusted my approach somewhat recently to minimize it but then again it probably means I'm also missing some opportunities. I often filter on interest level. If a girl is lukewarm in conversation I simply let her go. If she says she wants to meet with me, I give her more attention. Sure, I don't always get the attention of the really popular girls (although it happens from time to time) but then again I waste a lot less time and the ones that bite are really into it. In my experience attitude trumps everything else in the FC.
As for why they do it, I think there's a bunch of reasons. Mostly, they like to have that power over you. They made you waste your time and they love they can blow you off. Keep in mind, a text saying. I can't tonight but maybe some other time. Takes all of 3 seconds. They don't do it cause they like the thought of you waiting for them like a schmuck, that they made a grown man leave whatever he was doing and wait for their worthless ass. It gives them a sense of power.
[QUOTE=Kellster;3482133]I know patience is a virtue, especially on this dating site, but so far it's really frustrating. I mean I never send lewd messages and treat every meet and greet & email, for that matter, like a [URL]Match.com[/URL] date. We meet for an appetizer / coffee with no expectations and see if we hit it off. Even if she's not in the mood that night that's fine. I thought for sure it was the younger babies that pulled that crap. Never expected an older one to do it, or for that matter, any age chick after they confirm that we're on to do that. Why the hell did they confirm we were meeting then? Ugh! I'll keep at it since it's probably a numbers game, but I have to admit I'm reluctant to travel downtown in my local area, at least often, or drive too far for meet and greets because the flake factor is just so high and I don't like wasting my time with such a poor show up %.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3482308]I know, it's a real pet peeve of mine too. I now go in with the expectation of a 1/2 to 2/3 flake factor. Anyone doing this with a 10% or even 25% flake factor is a frigging genius. I've adjusted my approach somewhat recently to minimize it but then again it probably means I'm also missing some opportunities. I often filter on interest level. If a girl is lukewarm in conversation I simply let her go. If she says she wants to meet with me, I give her more attention. Sure, I don't always get the attention of the really popular girls (although it happens from time to time) but then again I waste a lot less time and the ones that bite are really into it. In my experience attitude trumps everything else in the FC.
As for why they do it, I think there's a bunch of reasons. Mostly, they like to have that power over you. They made you waste your time and they love they can blow you off. Keep in mind, a text saying. I can't tonight but maybe some other time. Takes all of 3 seconds. They don't do it cause they like the thought of you waiting for them like a schmuck, that they made a grown man leave whatever he was doing and wait for their worthless ass. It gives them a sense of power.[/QUOTE]I've probably had around a 75% flake rate because I go after the younger twenties SB's. I almost expect flaking with these Millennials. Their word means nothing. I think alot of women don't think we are going to actually show up, so they use it as a shit test to see if we are really serious about meeting. I've had a number of girls flake on me once or twice, but then when they see I am serious and don't get mad at them, they show up for the second or third time we agree to meet. I use the flakiness to my advantage. When they want a high allowance at the meet and greet, I say something like, "Well, you have flaked on me 2 times. I need to see that you are serious about not wasting my time before moving up to the full allowance. " I had a girl flake on me twice recently. When she finally did show up on the third proposed meet, I ended up fucking her for free.
I call or text within an hour or two of the meet to confirm they are coming. If they go silent, I don't bother to show up. My time is far more valuable than hers.
SDX.