Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Hofi35]Only Green got hit as we can see and hear. I've checked news7, pretty strong. 6 months investigation, is it possible that LE sended someone in? All I know from talking to mamasan while ago, there was some complaints from offices around, but nothing serious happened that time. Be safe out there and stop dreaming. None of the ladies anywhere in DC/MD/VA is under 40. Its just illusion done by ton of make up, dimmed light and thinknig with wrong head. Good times never last for too long.[/QUOTE]


There are ladies under 40 in this market. Spread out all over the region. This spot had at least 1 and she was busted.

[QUOTE=Fatpig]Dang now I have to wait a bit for the smoke to clear. Thanks for the articles though.

So did anyone ever map out what days are most hit with raids? Is there a pattern?[/QUOTE]

I don't know if there is a pattern or not. But, since I have been visiting so many MPs for so long, I do notice that no MP lasts longer than about 6 months after starting to do FS. As I know, Green has been offering a full scale FS for 7-8 months.

Aroma and King are somewhat behind, but in the same league. Watch out and don't let your little head take you to there now, unless you don't mind your name showing up on the news.

[QUOTE=Andrewsted]Well, this is interesting: The news articles say that the 'bust' occurred at 6:00 p.m. on April 27, 2010. If you go back to CL, you will see an add from Green Therapy that was posted at 6:58 p.m. ! Weird, I guess the big boss' that run the place and post the ads for the individual parlors was not aware of the bust at the time it occurred.[/QUOTE]If you notice on CL, all the VA AMPs seem to post one after another (and post racier ads in the adult section than they do in the therapeutic section). It has led me to believe the same person is doing all their CL posts The ads often use the same type of fonts and colors as well. The group now posting even now includes Sun Star in Merrifield and AMTB in Arlington, which I don't recall previously posting on CL.

[QUOTE=Hofi35]Only Green got hit as we can see and hear. I've checked news7, pretty strong. 6 months investigation, is it possible that LE sended someone in? All I know from talking to mamasan while ago, there was some complaints from offices around, but nothing serious happened that time. Be safe out there and stop dreaming. None of the ladies anywhere in DC/MD/VA is under 40. Its just illusion done by ton of make up, dimmed light and thinknig with wrong head. Good times never last for too long.[/QUOTE]The owners of these places need to take some classes on commercial real estate and do some scouting on locations. I can see why Green would get busted, it's in an high volume office park with no real discreet entrance, like some other places situated in office park locations (e. G. Mike Onos and the Chesapeak Bay LOL). Plus it's in the Cascades section of Sterling (the more upscale section of Sterling). It would had gained less attention if you stuck in an industrial park, like what some of the AMPs do in noVA.

And King. Well the place is situated in an office park that has had fed eyes on it due to the MS13 and other gang "problem" in that shopping complex. The FBI gave a talk a couple years ago at one of the schools near this place and said they and have been observing the gang trash hanging out in this complex area (mostly near the Biglots and Safeway area). Plus, the Loudon donut eaters have alledgely (per the local news, e. G. WTOP) installed surveillance cameras in the Safeway/Biglots shopping complex. I am sure LE checks out the complex that King is located. I have seen multiple times, LE sitting on their motorcycles and cruisers in that complex.

[QUOTE=Serpico99]The owners of these places need to take some classes on commercial real estate and do some scouting on locations.[/QUOTE]You are correct. The place in western Chantilly and Eva in PWC come to mind as other examples of poor site selection. Close proximity to nosy neighbors, comfortable surveilence spots and only one way in and out are big negatives. Incidently, they both were the best appointed facilities I have had the pleasure to visit. On another topic, there are under 40 year old providers scattered throughout Nova for those who care about such things, but for me it's the experience with the individual, not the age. Finally, the comments on the Green bust on WTOP's website are an encouraging read.

BC

[QUOTE=Yakblat]"After a six month investigation, deputies obtained a search warrant and raided the business about 6 p.m. on Tuesday."

It took a six month investigation to figure it out? Either they are dimwitted or someone has way too much time on his hands. Yak[/QUOTE]

Of course they are dimwitted. As one DC officer told me years ago, "If they had any brains they wouldn't be cops in the first place."
And of course they have too much time on their hands. There aren't enough college kids and tv reporters to beat up to keep them all busy.
As someone else said some time ago, "93% of cops give the rest a bad name."

The reason we do not get the same quality that other states do might be because fools like you will over pay for lesser quality. Why send the quality yo NOVA if you will pay for anything. When the ones who cannot make it in the big city come here they will meet with hard up fools like you and makes the money the elite make a quality spot.

So keep over paying abd the goodswll never improve or make a stand and ask for better and ew to come your way.

I would rather be a cheapskate who pays for quality then a fool who over pays for the lack of .....


[QUOTE=Cranberries]They're not going to come here with cheapskates like you lol.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Justforme]The reason we do not get the same quality that other states do might be because fools like you will over pay for lesser quality. Why send the quality yo NOVA if you will pay for anything. When the ones who cannot make it in the big city come here they will meet with hard up fools like you and makes the money the elite make a quality spot.

So keep over paying abd the goodswll never improve or make a stand and ask for better and ew to come your way.

I would rather be a cheapskate who pays for quality then a fool who over pays for the lack of .....[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but you make no sense at all. You're trying to dictate to me that the reason we don't get good quality is because we overpay the girls? So girls don't like guys who overpay and that's why they stay away from this area. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, honestly.

[QUOTE=Hofi35]Only Green got hit as we can see and hear. I've checked news7, pretty strong. 6 months investigation, is it possible that LE sended someone in? All I know from talking to mamasan while ago, there was some complaints from offices around, but nothing serious happened that time. Be safe out there and stop dreaming. None of the ladies anywhere in DC/MD/VA is under 40. Its just illusion done by ton of make up, dimmed light and thinknig with wrong head. Good times never last for too long.[/QUOTE]Hofi35,

Sometime dream will come true!

Yesterday finally find one AMP ladies sure under her 30 in DC for my birthday present Candy. Her face, sink and body told me she is young and in her mid 20 also her service is very good too.

This is my first AMP ladies under 30 in my pass two year AMP experience.
She is in SHELL gas station.

Kamen

I've never gotten a complaint from over-tipping. Some people just don't get it.[QUOTE=Cranberries]I'm sorry but you make no sense at all. You're trying to dictate to me that the reason we don't get good quality is because we overpay the girls? So girls don't like guys who overpay and that's why they stay away from this area. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, honestly.[/QUOTE]

Maybe they don't have a choice as to the location. They may pick the first available place to re-open or it may be someone totally different making the decisions as to where to locate. Whoever is making the decisions propably could care less because if force to, they will open up shop somewhere else. That's just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Serpico99]The owners of these places need to take some classes on commercial real estate and do some scouting on locations. I can see why Green would get busted, it's in an high volume office park with no real discreet entrance, like some other places situated in office park locations (e. G. Mike Onos and the Chesapeak Bay LOL). Plus it's in the Cascades section of Sterling (the more upscale section of Sterling). It would had gained less attention if you stuck in an industrial park, like what some of the AMPs do in noVA.

And King. Well the place is situated in an office park that has had fed eyes on it due to the MS13 and other gang "problem" in that shopping complex. The FBI gave a talk a couple years ago at one of the schools near this place and said they and have been observing the gang trash hanging out in this complex area (mostly near the Biglots and Safeway area). Plus, the Loudon donut eaters have alledgely (per the local news, e. G. WTOP) installed surveillance cameras in the Safeway/Biglots shopping complex. I am sure LE checks out the complex that King is located. I have seen multiple times, LE sitting on their motorcycles and cruisers in that complex.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

While in San Fran I hit up a well known place called Nikki's. The place was quiet as a mouse the entire time I was there, and despite that, I enjoyed myself. Was let in by Monica, a big boned maybe 40 year old Vietnamese girl. She offered for me to take a shower in the back that has some shower stalls. When I came back to my massage room, I noticed that the walls don't extend right to the ceiling, which is a little weird. Also, the doors have little windows in them? Weird, right? Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because this place is known for their "tea service". PM me if you don't already know what that is. This is something totally new to me and I rather enjoyed it. I ended up ordering everything on the menu and it set me back slightly more than NOVA prices, but I guess SF is a little more expensive. Monica was so friendly and she ended up laying and talking to me afterwards for about 20 minutes. This has never happened to me ever! I would definitely go back and see her again, she has an excellent bedside manner.

Just thought I'd share that with you as a comparison.

Some here ont only "just don't get it" they never will! Same goes with the Closeings.

[QUOTE=Omega0003]I've never gotten a complaint from over-tipping. Some people just don't get it.[/QUOTE]

Since this appears personal I responded to you PM. But I will say it is stupid to over pay for lack of service. I tip 20% for good service in a restaurant but if the service is not of quality I will leave about 1%, this makes sense for a restaurant as well as any other service.

So go on over pay for the lack of quality and quality will never come to the area.

PS: you can make you personal attacks to me through PM. This form is for other reasons.




[QUOTE=Cranberries]I'm sorry but you make no sense at all. You're trying to dictate to me that the reason we don't get good quality is because we overpay the girls? So girls don't like guys who overpay and that's why they stay away from this area. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, honestly.[/QUOTE]

I would be glad to over tip.

Kwan, por Kwan, if I was able to get that oldie I am sure I would have over tipped!!!

You pay for what you get and since so be happy with the lack of. If they were like the quality of Sky, I would over tip daily.

$$ for for less of a service then you would pay .5 in other local. Venture out an you will see!

Yes, some people just do not get it. Have a great weekend!


[QUOTE=A John]Some here ont only "just don't get it" they never will! Same goes with the Closeings.[/QUOTE]

FOR ALL OF US!

Let's drop all the crap about tips and pricing and such! All it does is piss people off and does NOT offer any useful leads to the BBBJTCNQNS we all want!

Give it a rest!

:)

JJ



[QUOTE=Justforme]I would be glad to over tip.

Kwan, por Kwan, if I was able to get that oldie I am sure I would have over tipped!!!

You pay for what you get and since so be happy with the lack of. If they were like the quality of Sky, I would over tip daily.

$$ for for less of a service then you would pay .5 in other local. Venture out an you will see!

Yes, some people just do not get it. Have a great weekend![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Justforme]Since this appears personal I responded to you PM. But I will say it is stupid to over pay for lack of service. I tip 20% for good service in a restaurant but if the service is not of quality I will leave about 1%, this makes sense for a restaurant as well as any other service.

So go on over pay for the lack of quality and quality will never come to the area.

PS: you can make you personal attacks to me through PM. This form is for other reasons.[/QUOTE]

It's not personal, I was just referring to how stupid your logic is that overpaying keeps girls away. However, you seem to have taken it personally judging from your profanity-laced PM.

As for the topic on hand, that is still the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I can't believe you're still insisting that if guys pay too much, the girls stay away. Absolutely stupid. And no, that's not a personal attack, I'm calling your post stupid.

Do you really think some 20 year old spinner is sitting there saying to herself, "Hey my friend's 50 year old mother is giving handjobs and guys are paying her $500! I better stay away from that area!"

[QUOTE=Justforme]I would be glad to over tip.

Kwan, por Kwan, if I was able to get that oldie I am sure I would have over tipped!!!

You pay for what you get and since so be happy with the lack of. If they were like the quality of Sky, I would over tip daily.

$$ for for less of a service then you would pay .5 in other local. Venture out an you will see!

Yes, some people just do not get it. Have a great weekend![/QUOTE]


Yes you don't seem to get it. IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.

Young hot talent are not going to come here 1st. This area already has a market value that you all have set by consistantly tipping the minimum. So when they evaluate areas that they can go they know in Philly they will get X, in NJ they will get Y, in NY they can get Z, in DC they will get xx, etc.

You have to 1st become know as an area of generous hobbiests before the talent will come. Since it seems that most of you are unwilling to put forth the investment you simply will never have the quality tallent you seek.

Now nothing in anyone's post seemed to be a personal attack on you. I am not sure why you are so defensive. Your position on this matter however is indefensible.

Grand opening. Leesburg. 2 minutes from outlets, where I delivered my family members for shopping, and ... came to change an oil in a car.

Easy to find place, probably, fresh and new. Big shower area. Rather large rooms. Standard fee. Smell of tabaco smoke is everywhere. Met Judy - 4X(told me that 28), even-cute face, 5'7", large frame, nice C's and square ass. Good TS, mediocre massage, not nice upselling(I gave up on standard price), nice standard finish, and ... when I was ready to leave, she mostly tuck me into the corner of room, leaned to me, hugged me and whisped om ny ear: "Bonus?" ... gave her jackson with laugh.

MMS told me that it is brand new place - about4 days old. I do not beleive that it will stay long, because it is sharing entrance with Family Dentist Center, and Leesburg Dentist Something is next to that door, and Medical Facilities are all around.

Very funny table at shower room. It made from table and PVH tubes from homedepot.

Do not think that will return.

I changed oil after, and wait in starbacks another hour reading book, waiting while my family is shopping. What's a strange day.

Stay safe,
Aman

Dropped by the ole hole in the wall today and drew Luci which is about a 7. 5 out of 10. Slim build, b-cup, long blondish hair, very sweet attitude. Ts was about a 9. 5 very thorough was squeaky on way back to room. Massage was about a 8. 5 not as hard as I like but better than a lot of others. Standard flip, never a bad visit there.. 8/. 6 and good to go.

Shadow

[QUOTE=Aman Tuleev]I do not beleive that it will stay long, because it is sharing entrance with Family Dentist Center, and Leesburg Dentist Something is next to that door, and Medical Facilities are all around.

Aman[/QUOTE]I second your opinion. Moreover, Loudoun's Sheriff office is only a few blocks away.

I wasn't happy at their upsell too, but was most surprised at their expanded menu, especially in view of that Green was just hit. These days KMPs in N Va are operating as if they are in DC. Guess it is because the bad economy so they try to increase revenue by offering risky service.

[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Been around longer then that, sorry. And customer service has nothing to do with my post.

You can not dictate terms to a provider on the 1st visit when you have earned no trust. PERIOD. Fact of the hobby.

Also you can just edit your posts, there is no need to make a seperate post to add more. It looks like you are just trying to drive up your post count.[/QUOTE]Just spoiled dude, just spoiled. Just have never encountered these types of things , hey if they got stiffed by someone,it wasnt me. But, its all good, I have some several old faithfulls who do alot more for those prices,thats all I am saying, just spoiled and also in the old days it wasnt done that way.

[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Yes you don't seem to get it. IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.

Young hot talent are not going to come here 1st. This area already has a market value that you all have set by consistantly tipping the minimum. So when they evaluate areas that they can go they know in Philly they will get X, in NJ they will get Y, in NY they can get Z, in DC they will get xx, etc.

You have to 1st become know as an area of generous hobbiests before the talent will come. Since it seems that most of you are unwilling to put forth the investment you simply will never have the quality tallent you seek.

Now nothing in anyone's post seemed to be a personal attack on you. I am not sure why you are so defensive. Your position on this matter however is indefensible.[/QUOTE]I just got back from some Job crap in Frisco(the talent there has allways been well above the DC/Balto talent and that goes way back to 1985), after visiting with relatives, thought I'd try a spot, went in and it was 80 at the door and I tipped the girl 1 bone and she was very sexy,mid 20s,etc and I asked her is this a decent tip(since I know Cali has better talent) and she said "yep", so I beg to differ.

[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv]I just got back from some Job crap in Frisco(the talent there has allways been well above the DC/Balto talent and that goes way back to 1985), after visiting with relatives, thought I'd try a spot, went in and it was 80 at the door and I tipped the girl 1 bone and she was very sexy,mid 20s,etc and I asked her is this a decent tip(since I know Cali has better talent) and she said "yep", so I beg to differ.[/QUOTE]

Which spot was this? Most of the places there are $200 upfront.

[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv]I just got back from some Job crap in Frisco(the talent there has allways been well above the DC/Balto talent and that goes way back to 1985), after visiting with relatives, thought I'd try a spot, went in and it was 80 at the door and I tipped the girl 1 bone and she was very sexy,mid 20s,etc and I asked her is this a decent tip(since I know Cali has better talent) and she said "yep", so I beg to differ.[/QUOTE]


Location? Intel on this board and other suggests different pricing.

Where??????
Name??????

I don`t think so.........

[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv]I just got back from some Job crap in Frisco(the talent there has allways been well above the DC/Balto talent and that goes way back to 1985), after visiting with relatives, thought I'd try a spot, went in and it was 80 at the door and I tipped the girl 1 bone and she was very sexy,mid 20s,etc and I asked her is this a decent tip(since I know Cali has better talent) and she said "yep", so I beg to differ.[/QUOTE]

Went by to see Angie at Orient today. The place was hoping. Angie and Tina were both working as well as Rubie and a new girl. I wanted and was taken care of very nicely as usual. Angie treats everyone like an old friend once she gets to know you. It is a nice relaxing place.

Kay from Cosmo is now Blue at Pine Tree.

Nuff said. If you know, then you know.

This is why every session is like playing Let's Make a Deal. I am sure some are paying the extorsion.

Find me the quality and I will pay for it. Since you are willing to overpay for what you get, this area will always get the lesser of quality.

It is simple supplyy and demand and since the supply is the only one doing the demanding you are getting what they send not the best of the bunch.

Ypu are still under the principle that the newer girls have a choice where they go....

[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Yes you don't seem to get it. IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.

Young hot talent are not going to come here 1st. This area already has a market value that you all have set by consistantly tipping the minimum. So when they evaluate areas that they can go they know in Philly they will get X, in NJ they will get Y, in NY they can get Z, in DC they will get xx, etc.

You have to 1st become know as an area of generous hobbiests before the talent will come. Since it seems that most of you are unwilling to put forth the investment you simply will never have the quality tallent you seek.

Now nothing in anyone's post seemed to be a personal attack on you. I am not sure why you are so defensive. Your position on this matter however is indefensible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Justforme]This is why every session is like playing Let's Make a Deal. I am sure some are paying the extorsion.

Find me the quality and I will pay for it. Since you are willing to overpay for what you get, this area will always get the lesser of quality.

It is simple supplyy and demand and since the supply is the only one doing the demanding you are getting what they send not the best of the bunch.

Ypu are still under the principle that the newer girls have a choice where they go....[/QUOTE]

Yeah, because these girls are really sex slaves right?

You're so clueless it's not even funny anymore. The girls come when there's money. They go when there is no money. It's as simple as that.

What logical reason is there for a place NOT to use younger girls? Do they think their business is going to drop?

You seem to have the misguided misconception that these old girls in NOVA are raking in the dough when it's the exact OPPOSITE. They AREN'T making money, which is why young talent isn't coming in, and when they DO come in, here it is straight from your own posts:

"Saw Bobby,

Nice shape tight and tone with enhanced headlights. She did everything just nice and offered all the right deal. Asked $.4 for the deal only had $.2, she took the offer. As I was ready to hit the road she said next time $$.

Good but no repete because of the last comment on her part."

"She was nice

And a lot better than what I see on the escort pages. I can tell you I will not return. The $$ is about .4 more than I would have had if I went to one of the local apts.

I will not pay her extortion"

Your stupid stingy ass isn't willing to repeat with a girl you consider better than the more expensive escorts because... YOU'RE A CHEAPSKATE OVER TWENTY DOLLARS.

Anyway it doesn't really matter what you say or think, because I saw a young spinner in AC who I had formerly seen in DC. From her own mouth, she said that she was at 1333 for just five days and was planning to leave because she wasn't making enough money and the customers never tipped DESPITE being the youngest and prettiest girl there and providing better service than everyone except Nana.

She then said the place got busted the day before her flight and she had to spend a day doing community service, picking up trash in downtown DC.

I asked her if she was ever coming back to DC, and she said NO.

I asked, was it because of the police?

And she said NO, she said the customers were weird and stingy. And she's pretty much talking about people like YOU.

[QUOTE=Justforme]Since you are willing to overpay for what you get, this area will always get the lesser of quality.
Ypu are still under the principle that the newer girls have a choice where they go....[/QUOTE]


If this market was overpaying it would be flooded with talent.
They do have a choice, and they aren't comming where there is no money.

Why do keep insisting people are overpaying here?

Why would this area get lesser quality if it actually did overpay? That makes no sense.

It is if you think spa owners are sitting back saying "Lets not bring any young girls to the DC/MD/VA market, the suckers there overpay for the 40+ girls".
Do you not see how silly this sounds?

I see we agree on this one :)

[QUOTE=Brahmabull]If this market was overpaying it would be flooded with talent.
They do have a choice, and they aren't comming where there is no money.

Why do keep insisting people are overpaying here?

Why would this area get lesser quality if it actually did overpay? That makes no sense.

It is if you think spa owners are sitting back saying "Lets not bring any young girls to the DC/MD/VA market, the suckers there overpay for the 40+ girls".
Do you not see how silly this sounds?[/QUOTE]

You mean they don`t like being fucked 7-10 times a day by fat, stinky, ballheaded older men?

I is realy not worth the time talking with "clueless" people


[QUOTE=Cranberries]Yeah, because these girls are really sex slaves right?

You're so clueless it's not even funny anymore. The girls come when there's money. They go when there is no money. It's as simple as that.

Your stupid stingy ass isn't willing to repeat with a girl you consider better than the more expensive escorts because... YOU'RE A CHEAPSKATE OVER TWENTY DOLLARS.

I asked her if she was ever coming back to DC, and she said NO.

I asked, was it because of the police?

And she said NO, she said the customers were weird and stingy. And she's pretty much talking about people like YOU.[/QUOTE]

Change the channel!!

This movie is getting old!!

New subject PLEASE!

JJ

I knew you would be in soon, are we hittin that nerve again.......

[QUOTE=Sleazebum]Change the channel!!
This movie is getting old!!
New subject PLEASE!JJ[/QUOTE]


Your one of the ones she is referring too



[QUOTE=Cranberries]
I asked her if she was ever coming back to DC, and she said NO.

I asked, was it because of the police?

And she said NO, she said the customers were weird and stingy. And she's pretty much talking about people like YOU.[/QUOTE]

My what is one of the ones? Time for another English lesson it seems:

Main Entry: your
Pronunciation: \yər, ˈyu̇r, ˈyȯr\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English ēower; akin to Old English ēow you — more at you
Date: before 12th century
1 : of or relating to you or yourself or yourselves especially as possessor or possessors <your bodies>, agent or agents <your contributions>, or object or objects of an action <your discharge>
2 : of or relating to one or oneself <when you face the north, east is at your right>
3 —used with little or no meaning almost as an equivalent to the definite article the <your typical teenager>

What are you going on about?

JJ


[QUOTE=A John]I knew you would be in soon, are we hittin that nerve again.......




Your one of the ones she is referring too[/QUOTE]

Boring, all of you.

Yeah can we move more towards reviews and less towards english/ american lessons as I don't give a shit about typos in grammar.


Visited June, an indie. Best massage I have received since being in Hong Kong. Very deep and sometimes painful but next day I felt GREAT. She was unable to get rid of two muscle groups but loosened them.

She nice to talk to, friendly had has good flipz. No rush and very relaxed going. She is a bit older than her low rez photo though.

Good idea, moving one

Yes, moving on

I just got back from a rather good finish. My spot is close to Green. I am so happy that place got busted. Green was was a good place in the early days but then it then like the other establishments it got careless greedy and simply sloppy The quality sufferred and I simply stopped going. My new spot no table shower but everything else seems to make up for that. Best of all they gave me a good old fashion panty job to end the session.