[QUOTE=Ck813;5689740]I have seen this post before. Never thought of calling her. She looks decent and if she gives a good BBBJ for 200 I'm all in.[/QUOTE]Isn't BBBJ rate 150-160? 200 for FS.
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[QUOTE=Ck813;5689740]I have seen this post before. Never thought of calling her. She looks decent and if she gives a good BBBJ for 200 I'm all in.[/QUOTE]Isn't BBBJ rate 150-160? 200 for FS.
S Hunter—- you pay what you want to pay and I will pay what I want to pay!
[QUOTE=SHunter;5689955]Isn't BBBJ rate 150-160? 200 for FS.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ck813;5689740]I have seen this post before. Never thought of calling her. She looks decent and if she gives a good BBBJ for 200 I'm all in.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SHunter;5689955]Isn't BBBJ rate 150-160? 200 for FS.[/QUOTE]For the sake of clarity, are the prices stated in addition to the 60,70, 80 house fee OR includes the house fee?
Usually for Thai places the rates are higher. Much younger providers but not always prettier. Maybe average of 7-8. The thing with Thai providers most are greedy and they don't have the solid bodies like Yuna. I'm not sure how Nara is as I never got to see her. Thai providers usually don't take all their clothes off either for fear of getting caught.
HE—-120-140 60 house 60 provider. 70 house 70 provider which for me I have spent only once and I will say was well worth it. Free roaming OTC with the provider having no bra. Could pinch those nipples and she had the perfect size tits. Rubbing the pussy OTC and ass roaming all I want.
BBBJ—-200-300 some can face fuck while most do decent BBBJ but short. Blow and go type for most.
FS—-only one offered at 300, others have offered at 500 and 700. Only had one and it was not very pleasurable. I wouldn't bite at 500 and 700. There is one I would pay 400 and I know that makes me go against what I say but man I'm so infatuated with this provider. Maybe 2 more I would pay 400. Got to finger one and that pussy felt so awesome.
All these include house fee of 60.
[QUOTE=Museki;5690255]For the sake of clarity, are the prices stated in addition to the 60,70, 80 house fee OR includes the house fee?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;5687345]After seeing a naked beauty on the Polo Field nude beach I needed a release.
Called Pin Tai and was told to ring the bell when I got there. Left slippers by door, went to shower to get sand and ocean off my body and to be clean in all the right places.
Taken to the "other" side of the spa. Got naked and comfortable face down on the table. In comes Julie, cute, mid 20's friendly. A little meat on her bones but soft and sweet. She leaves me naked as we introduce and chat a little, her English is good.
Nice massage, good pressure, I get the leg touches in, and eventually have my hand in a good position to touch her pussy over her yoga pants now and then as she moves around. She gets the idea and teases very nicely. Nice hot towel, and the flip. Her face is beautiful IMHO, and she has a nice smile with great eye contact if you enjoy looking at a pretty girl.
She starts teasing and moves to my now Phd, and as I touch her all over she shares her real B cup soft and sweet breasts with me. Her touches are sensual and enjoyable, as I have her pull her pants down because I want to touch her pussy. Hair patch in front, smooth as silk below. Very exciting..[/QUOTE]Have contact number for Julie? Sounds like fun. Topless and see / touch pussy sounds pretty good. Was it hard to get her pants down?
[QUOTE=Ck813;5690251]S Hunter- you pay what you want to pay and I will pay what I want to pay![/QUOTE]Cool your jets brah. People on here talk about "standard rates. " No such thing if everyone just pays what they want. Although you can tip whatever you want. I want to know what the actual rates are for most of the rest of us not super rich guys. My understanding is BBBJ "standard rate" is 160 and FS is still 200 including the house fee. If you give extra, that is on you. I want to know if I see somebody, what they expect from me. I suspect some folks overpaying leads to these big price inflations the providers now expect as normal from everybody. I also want to know what I can expect from them in terms of service, attitude, time, etc. That's the reason I am on here.
My opinion is no one wins long term with overpaying. Customer pays more than needed. Provider gets fewer customers because price is high. And other customers miss out on a potentially really good provider because price is high. Other providers, even crappy ones, think they can charge higher prices. And it snowballs from there.
Take it there—- you forget how many times you messaged me? When I asked you you gave nothing. You must be a number of providers built into one screen name!
I'm out from here with you! I should have kept all your messages you sent me!
[QUOTE=SHunter;5690927]Cool your jets brah. People on here talk about "standard rates. " No such thing if everyone just pays what they want. Although you can tip whatever you want. I want to know what the actual rates are for most of the rest of us not super rich guys. My understanding is BBBJ "standard rate" is 160 and FS is still 200 including the house fee. If you give extra, that is on you. I want to know if I see somebody, what they expect from me. I suspect some folks overpaying leads to these big price inflations the providers now expect as normal from everybody. I also want to know what I can expect from them in terms of service, attitude, time, etc. That's the reason I am on here.
My opinion is no one wins long term with overpaying. Customer pays more than needed. Provider gets fewer customers because price is high. And other customers miss out on a potentially really good provider because price is high. Other providers, even crappy ones, think they can charge higher prices. And it snowballs from there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ck813;5691226]Take it there- you forget how many times you messaged me? When I asked you you gave nothing. You must be a number of providers built into one screen name!
I'm out from here with you! I should have kept all your messages you sent me![/QUOTE]Like I said, take it easy brah. I share my experiences too. Just haven't tried the last one or two you mentioned because I thought the price was too high.
[QUOTE=SHunter;5690927]Cool your jets brah. People on here talk about "standard rates. " No such thing if everyone just pays what they want. Although you can tip whatever you want. I want to know what the actual rates are for most of the rest of us not super rich guys. My understanding is BBBJ "standard rate" is 160 and FS is still 200 including the house fee. If you give extra, that is on you. I want to know if I see somebody, what they expect from me. I suspect some folks overpaying leads to these big price inflations the providers now expect as normal from everybody. I also want to know what I can expect from them in terms of service, attitude, time, etc. That's the reason I am on here.
My opinion is no one wins long term with overpaying. Customer pays more than needed. Provider gets fewer customers because price is high. And other customers miss out on a potentially really good provider because price is high. Other providers, even crappy ones, think they can charge higher prices. And it snowballs from there.[/QUOTE]The challenge for providers and mongers alike is "inflation".
Personally, I believe providers earning the same $150 today as they were years ago with a HF if $50 the same too, is kind of a joke, yes? How many working mongers getting the same wages today as they were (at same job) as they were years ago??
NOT trying to pick a fight at all. But so many guys on this board ranting about Not paying a penny more for anything, but probably complaint about the increase in gas, groceries, utilities, etc.
Just saying the providers here aren't exactly getting rich, unless they jumping on 12-18 dicks a day. Who wants that? Not me.
Throughout our lives everywhere, you pay for what you get. There have been many times I paid very little at some shitty AMP and got even less back. They should a paid me for stopping by! Ha Ha ha.
[QUOTE=SHunter;5690927]My opinion is no one wins long term with overpaying. Customer pays more than needed. Provider gets fewer customers because price is high. And other customers miss out on a potentially really good provider because price is high. Other providers, even crappy ones, think they can charge higher prices. And it snowballs from there.[/QUOTE]I don't know what you think "overpaying" is, but the impression I'm getting is that you believe $201 would be overpaying.
Trust me, you'd get run out of an AMP for a $200 tip and expecting FS, never mind BBFS, BBFSCIP or anal, from one of the girls anywhere else in the US.
They don't care that things are more expensive here and that everyone here makes less. They're working. They're not social workers. While you want to pay as little as possible they want to extract as much from you as possible. Theyre not your friends. Theyre not your girlfriends. Theyre in business.
And yes, you can choose not to patronize the girls who expect more. But there's other markets (literally the rest of the US) where they can make more for doing the same amount of work or less, and they'll go there. That's literally how capitalism works.
Meanwhile, you're stuck with the same women. If you want to see new girls you have to hop on a plane and guess what? Now you're paying more because everywhere else in the US the rates are more expensive than the AMPs here. And the AMPs here slowly decay until the girls they have age out and the mamas can't attract new talent because of that $200 line that hasn't budged.
So maybe it's not a question of underpaying, but a problem of the guys underpaying.
[QUOTE=Darkman808;5691346]Just saying the providers here aren't exactly getting rich, unless they jumping on 12-18 dicks a day. Who wants that? Not me.[/QUOTE]The whole point of girls getting into this line of work is the money. I think guys here need to remember that. What Asian FOB girls at AMPs are very good at is making you feel like a boyfriend. So I think a lot of people get things confused and they forget the girl's "why".
What's their "why"? Not to find a BF. But to make the most amount of money as quickly as possible.
And someone is inevitably going to bring up, "Well if a girl hops on 5 dicks a day, that's $1000/ day! I don't make $1000/ day!
Which is true (for most of us). But being a woman is expensive. Ask you sister or aunts or friends who are women how much they spend on cosmetics, skin care, hair and all that other stuff. It's a lot of money. Take into account that a lot of women get plastic surgery and that's even more money.
She's also having sex with guys that really, she's not attracted to you. Sorry to burst your bubble if you didn't know this, but those girls wouldn't fuck most of you if it wasn't for the money. (Also, Santa isn't real.) So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door, even the ones you would never have had sex to begin with and have no connection to, how much would you want to be paid? (Yes, I know. For some if you youre dating or married to that person. Merry Christmas and Im glad Im not you.)
PLUS, youre fucking multiple guys a day who are screwing like they just got out of prison. These reviews read like all of you are Erik Everhard, which I dont believe, but even if thats a few of you, thats a lot of wear on tear on a pussy. Times that by five a day, for five or six days a week, see how that could turn out?
Sex work is work.
DangerBoy is again absolutely right. Another motivation for why these girls work these jobs is because some of them come from unfortunate circumstances and have had hard lives. Many of them have financial obligations back home or are the sole breadwinner for their families. So they work these jobs, because as the poster pointed out, they need to make big money in as little time as possible. With increasing inflation and the many risks with working this job, they are going to ask for higher prices.
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5691523]The whole point of girls getting into this line of work is the money. I think guys here need to remember that. What Asian FOB girls at AMPs are very good at is making you feel like a boyfriend. So I think a lot of people get things confused and they forget the girl's "why".
What's their "why"? Not to find a BF. But to make the most amount of money as quickly as possible.
And someone is inevitably going to bring up, "Well if a girl hops on 5 dicks a day, that's $1000/ day! I don't make $1000/ day!
Which is true (for most of us). But being a woman is expensive. Ask you sister or aunts or friends who are women how much they spend on cosmetics, skin care, hair and all that other stuff. It's a lot of money. Take into account that a lot of women get plastic surgery and that's even more money.
She's also having sex with guys that really, she's not attracted to you. Sorry to burst your bubble if you didn't know this, but those girls wouldn't fuck most of you if it wasn't for the money. (Also, Santa isn't real.) So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door, even the ones you would never have had sex to begin with and have no connection to, how much would you want to be paid? (Yes, I know. For some if you youre dating or married to that person..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5691494]I don't know what you think "overpaying" is, but the impression I'm getting is that you believe $201 would be overpaying.
Trust me, you'd get run out of an AMP for a $200 tip and expecting FS, never mind BBFS, BBFSCIP or anal, from one of the girls anywhere else in the US.
They don't care that things are more expensive here and that everyone here makes less. They're working. They're not social workers. While you want to pay as little as possible they want to extract as much from you as possible. Theyre not your friends. Theyre not your girlfriends. Theyre in business.
And yes, you can choose not to patronize the girls who expect more. But there's other markets (literally the rest of the US) where they can make more for doing the same amount of work or less, and they'll go there. That's literally how capitalism works.
Meanwhile, you're stuck with the same women. If you want to see new girls you have to hop on a plane and guess what? Now you're paying more because everywhere else in the US the rates are more expensive than the AMPs here. And the AMPs here slowly decay until the girls they have age out and the mamas can't attract new talent because of that $200 line that hasn't budged.
So maybe it's not a question of underpaying, but a problem of the guys underpaying.[/QUOTE]Agree with your many excellent points.
I also understand the difference between guys who can barely afford the $250-$300 to get laid at a local AMP and the visiting girls who 'demand' $800-$1000 a pop. Like many other things, girls charge (and earn) what the market will bear. Hawaii is a "low ball" location from their point of view. They even say so in their ads!
Many visiting chicks only come here for the fun and 'work' a few days here to offset the cost of the trip, if they can get a few high rollers to pay, it's a bonus for them.
But as DangerBoy says, It's still "work!
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5691523]The whole point of girls getting into this line of work is the money. I think guys here need to remember that. What Asian FOB girls at AMPs are very good at is making you feel like a boyfriend. So I think a lot of people get things confused and they forget the girl's "why".
What's their "why"? Not to find a BF. But to make the most amount of money as quickly as possible.
And someone is inevitably going to bring up, "Well if a girl hops on 5 dicks a day, that's $1000/ day! I don't make $1000/ day!
Which is true (for most of us). But being a woman is expensive. Ask you sister or aunts or friends who are women how much they spend on cosmetics, skin care, hair and all that other stuff. It's a lot of money. Take into account that a lot of women get plastic surgery and that's even more money.
She's also having sex with guys that really, she's not attracted to you. Sorry to burst your bubble if you didn't know this, but those girls wouldn't fuck most of you if it wasn't for the money. (Also, Santa isn't real.) So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door, even the ones you would never have had sex to begin with and have no connection to, how much would you want to be paid? (Yes, I know. For some if you youre dating or married to that person. Merry Christmas and Im glad Im not you.)
PLUS, youre fucking multiple guys a day who are screwing like they just got out of prison. These reviews read like all of you are Erik Everhard, which I dont believe, but even if thats a few of you, thats a lot of wear on tear on a pussy. Times that by five a day, for five or six days a week, see how that could turn out?
Sex work is work.[/QUOTE]I don't get why the fixation on $200 for the last umpteen years. It's no wonder that Honolulu doesn't get any young providers. Or if one shows up, she won't stay very long. We got just MILFs and GILFs here. It's going to be year 2022 soon. Inflation affects everything. And the working women actually don't clear $200 each customer. $50 is for house and the women also have to pay a cut to mama and also for food. So the AMP providers may only be clearing around $130-140 for theirselves out of a $200 customer. If you want the finest wine, you got to pay the price. For example, if the going rate was like $350-400, I'm sure AMP owners would have a much easier time to recruit younger and hotter talent to come out to Honolulu.
[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;5691796]I don't get why the fixation on $200 for the last umpteen years. It's no wonder that Honolulu doesn't get any young providers. Or if one shows up, she won't stay very long. We got just MILFs and GILFs here. It's going to be year 2022 soon. Inflation affects everything. And the working women actually don't clear $200 each customer. $50 is for house and the women also have to pay a cut to mama and also for food. So the AMP providers may only be clearing around $130-140 for theirselves out of a $200 customer. If you want the finest wine, you got to pay the price. For example, if the going rate was like $350-400, I'm sure AMP owners would have a much easier time to recruit younger and hotter talent to come out to Honolulu.[/QUOTE]You're right about the MILFs and GILFs. I got conned by several reviews into thinking a provider was young and hot.
[QUOTE=Lknfrpssy;5692473]You're right about the MILFs and GILFs. I got conned by several reviews into thinking a provider was young and hot.[/QUOTE]"How old is she?
"Oh she's pretty young. In her 40's. ".
"WTF?
[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;5691796]I don't get why the fixation on $200 for the last umpteen years.[/QUOTE]I think that was the tip that was the agreed-on standard in the late '90's or 2000's and it never changed for whatever reason. I don't understand why inflation or market forces didn't drive up prices either. It's like minimum wage, I suppose.
But as it's been pointed out, the crackdown on AMPs is a fairly new thing. A girl in a parlor could work 8 hours five days a week and have a good living in Hawaii, and not have to worry about looking over her shoulder for LE with all the costs associated with it (bail, lawyers). I suppose that might be a reason why the rate never went up. Twenty, 25 years later that girl who was 25 is 50 and still here because she's comfortable and settled in. But that $200 tip won't attract anyone younger to work here.
[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;5691796]For example, if the going rate was like $350-400, I'm sure AMP owners would have a much easier time to recruit younger and hotter talent to come out to Honolulu.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking more like $500 for 45 minutes. And that's not including extras like BBBJ, BBFS and anal.
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5692738]I think that was the tip that was the agreed-on standard in the late '90's or 2000's and it never changed for whatever reason. I don't understand why inflation or market forces didn't drive up prices either. It's like minimum wage, I suppose.
But as it's been pointed out, the crackdown on AMPs is a fairly new thing. A girl in a parlor could work 8 hours five days a week and have a good living in Hawaii, and not have to worry about looking over her shoulder for LE with all the costs associated with it (bail, lawyers). I suppose that might be a reason why the rate never went up. Twenty, 25 years later that girl who was 25 is 50 and still here because she's comfortable and settled in. But that $200 tip won't attract anyone younger to work here.
I'm thinking more like $500 for 45 minutes. And that's not including extras like BBBJ, BBFS and anal.[/QUOTE]Some of my fav atf said she did not know how to find "messenger" for new place to work in mainland but recently got info about it. And no reason to deal with Hawaii demanding too much (too much bb pressure, too many big mouths) and planning to leave Hawaii scene soon.
When Hawaii stuck girls try, they can find way to go to mainland. Girls left and left overs (relatively young and toned ones) are planning to leave.
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5692705]"How old is she?
"Oh she's pretty young. In her 40's. ".
"WTF?[/QUOTE]If you're and old in his 70's, a 50 why / o woman is "young".
If you're a big fat 400 lbs slob, a 250 lbs provider is "curvy" to you.
Some reviews compared to other reviews are great reading! Always worth a humorous perspective.
Or whatever it's called. Avoid. Safe your money. Just got back. Huge regret and waste of $$.
House is in Kalihi, residential neighbourhood.
Pics not fucking accurate.
Lady was over 40 yrs. Well over weight but I didn't have the heart to leave. She hid behind the door when answering plus I was hoping she was the mama. No she was the talent.
Massage. Avg to poor. Bbj. I had to close my eyes. Told her to stop and finished with HJ.
Worse part is at the beginning she wanted $$ Gave her $$ but was $$ too much.
Don't bother, this is also a part of the Chinese Connection.
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5691523]The whole point of girls getting into this line of work is the money. I think guys here need to remember that. What Asian FOB girls at AMPs are very good at is making you feel like a boyfriend. So I think a lot of people get things confused and they forget the girl's "why".
What's their "why"? Not to find a BF. But to make the most amount of money as quickly as possible.
And someone is inevitably going to bring up, "Well if a girl hops on 5 dicks a day, that's $1000/ day! I don't make $1000/ day!
Which is true (for most of us). But being a woman is expensive. Ask you sister or aunts or friends who are women how much they spend on cosmetics, skin care, hair and all that other stuff. It's a lot of money. Take into account that a lot of women get plastic surgery and that's even more money.[/QUOTE]I am going to disagree with the " So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door". You are screened on the phone, at the door and in the room by the mama and the girls. I have asked them and they said they don't have to take the drunk or gross men. They can also decline FS and BJ and have you settle for a HJ. They also have their own usasexguide were they weed out customers with bad reputations or don't tip.
[QUOTE=Lknfrpssy;5692473]You're right about the MILFs and GILFs. I got conned by several reviews into thinking a provider was young and hot.[/QUOTE]I don't think most of these over the top reviews were meant to deceive. I learned that if a provider performs a certain service (s) or fulfills a certain personal looks or taste standard, some mongers will automatically upgrade the review. Also, like other have said, if you are in your 70's, 40's is the new 20's.
[QUOTE=ExitOnly;5693205]I don't think most of these over the top reviews were meant to deceive. I learned that if a provider performs a certain service (s) or fulfills a certain personal looks or taste standard, some mongers will automatically upgrade the review. Also, like other have said, if you are in your 70's, 40's is the new 20's.[/QUOTE]Barenack Gilfs seem to get higher score when it comes to age and looks than real.
Curvy in good way of bb girl a often means "she is overweight".
Most mongers here never care about waist-hip ratio at all. It is though my own standard when I rate women's body. I prefer thin waist+wide hip with small breasts than boyish narrow pelvic with fake big boobs.
[QUOTE=HawaiianNono;5693131]I am going to disagree with the " So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door". You are screened on the phone, at the door and in the room by the mama and the girls. I have asked them and they said they don't have to take the drunk or gross men. They can also decline FS and BJ and have you settle for a HJ. They also have their own usasexguide were they weed out customers with bad reputations or don't tip.[/QUOTE]And now with limited providers for AMPs (that guys can get easier access to) share "motherfucker lists".
Many keep their own lists of blacklisted males. If he is in one shop's or one pro's asshole lists, he will be rejected even when he calls. "Automatic voice mail".
[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;5691796]I don't get why the fixation on $200 for the last umpteen years. It's no wonder that Honolulu doesn't get any young providers. Or if one shows up, she won't stay very long. We got just MILFs and GILFs here. It's going to be year 2022 soon. Inflation affects everything. And the working women actually don't clear $200 each customer. $50 is for house and the women also have to pay a cut to mama and also for food. So the AMP providers may only be clearing around $130-140 for theirselves out of a $200 customer. If you want the finest wine, you got to pay the price. For example, if the going rate was like $350-400, I'm sure AMP owners would have a much easier time to recruit younger and hotter talent to come out to Honolulu.[/QUOTE]I don't think they (relaxation workers) pay taxes. For the average Joe in HI, 200 or 210 or whatever he is paying is a lot of money for services rendered. A lot of married men would like to go out and fuck someone else for a change, but they stay home because they can't afford it. However, there are also the well to do guys that can afford it and pay whatever. In my humble opinion the providers pay little taxes if any or nothing at all. As for me during my career as a monger, I have spent enough money and it was well worth it. Wish I could afford to get one every night. Good old days. Thailand for a year.
Let's keep this forum to actual MP reviews.
[QUOTE=Dan1388;5692984]Or whatever it's called. Avoid. Safe your money. Just got back. Huge regret and waste of $$.
House is in Kalihi, residential neighbourhood.
Pics not fucking accurate.
Lady was over 40 yrs. Well over weight but I didn't have the heart to leave. She hid behind the door when answering plus I was hoping she was the mama. No she was the talent.
Massage. Avg to poor. Bbj. I had to close my eyes. Told her to stop and finished with HJ.
Worse part is at the beginning she wanted $$ Gave her $$ but was $$ too much.
Don't bother, this is also a part of the Chinese Connection.[/QUOTE]Did you get the name of the lady? I see they have a new girl on their ad.
[QUOTE=Dan1388;5692984]Or whatever it's called. Avoid. Safe your money. Just got back. Huge regret and waste of $$.
House is in Kalihi, residential neighbourhood.
Pics not fucking accurate.
Lady was over 40 yrs. Well over weight but I didn't have the heart to leave. She hid behind the door when answering plus I was hoping she was the mama. No she was the talent.
Massage. Avg to poor. Bbj. I had to close my eyes. Told her to stop and finished with HJ.
Worse part is at the beginning she wanted $$ Gave her $$ but was $$ too much.
Don't bother, this is also a part of the Chinese Connection.[/QUOTE]Is this the one you went to?
[URL]https://honolulu-therapeuticmassage.bedpage.com/liliha-kapalama/18139541.html[/URL]
This place used to be by pali hwy. A rare winner but a lot of no so good experiences as well like yours. And expect to be rushed along quickly.
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5691494]I don't know what you think "overpaying" is, but the impression I'm getting is that you believe $201 would be overpaying.
Trust me, you'd get run out of an AMP for a $200 tip and expecting FS, never mind BBFS, BBFSCIP or anal, from one of the girls anywhere else in the US.
They don't care that things are more expensive here and that everyone here makes less.[/QUOTE]I have paid over 200, even more than 201. I use the forum for research and to share. If I know they are expecting 300 or whatever, then I can choose to go or not go. If I know what they are asking and I go, I will pay what they ask. What I hate is them not saying and then up selling as you go. Even to the point of stopping to ask you to dig out the money for each item. Lots of times, the service does not match the price tag. Many charge higher fees and short on time and service. That has been a consistent theme for many providers. I feel like I am overpaying when that happens.
I figure that's why we are on here. Find out first. And then we can choose for ourselves. That's why I am on here anyway.
[QUOTE=SHunter;5697677]I have paid over 200, even more than 201. I use the forum for research and to share. If I know they are expecting 300 or whatever, then I can choose to go or not go. If I know what they are asking and I go, I will pay what they ask. What I hate is them not saying and then up selling as you go. Even to the point of stopping to ask you to dig out the money for each item. Lots of times, the service does not match the price tag. Many charge higher fees and short on time and service. That has been a consistent theme for many providers. I feel like I am overpaying when that happens.
I figure that's why we are on here. Find out first. And then we can choose for ourselves. That's why I am on here anyway.[/QUOTE]Where are these places that stop in the middle of a service to ask for more money to continue? Sounds like those pay to play video games where you got to pay more money to unlock to get to the next mission / level. Name them so I can avoid.
I mongered in HNL in the early to mid 2010's. I was fairly amazed at the quality poon that could be had for 200 or less. Moved to the mainland and experienced a k-girl drought until I drove my lazy ass to Dallas and discovered an AMP paradise just about as good as Honolulu's prices were higher but quality and variety were about the same. Fast forward to now in California Bay area. Prices are crazy (approaching 300 for the mid tier ladies) but given he cost of living and comparable prices on the east coast I get it. 280 will get you BBFS with a mid 20 (early 20's in some cases) to early 30's hottie who looks years younger. These prices can creep up to 400 for the more popular ones who can command such rates. Bottom line Honolulu is living in the past with 200 rates. If it holds and you get hot quality ladies, then power to you. Rising rates is an issue here as well. Girls are more willing to work So Cal because they can make more money in general and supposedly the SoCal guys tip in addition to the HF. Now imagine the info exchange between Kgirls about going to Hawaii to make less while being expected to do the same or more than what they provide on the mainland. When I heard brothers mention a rumor that Nicole (of Happiness fame) coming back to Hawaii, I had to ask myself "why? She makes considerably more per cock on the mainland. When she toured the bay I asked her if it was true and she said yes she would go back to Hawaii. Three months later after a SoCal tour she's back in the bay. Price increase is a natural thing depending upon the conditions that give rise to it. One thing is certain, SoCal is usually the envy of the west coast mongering world because of the volume of youthful, hot, top tier providers. As far as Nicole, she is lower tier for looks but middle tier for service. Honolulu set the bar for me, but having played in multiple areas, I realize more than ever to resist reasonable change is to accept a decline in the hobby. Bottom line: You get what you pay for.
RJ.
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5692738]I think that was the tip that was the agreed-on standard in the late '90's or 2000's and it never changed for whatever reason. I don't understand why inflation or market forces didn't drive up prices either. It's like minimum wage, I suppose.
But as it's been pointed out, the crackdown on AMPs is a fairly new thing. A girl in a parlor could work 8 hours five days a week and have a good living in Hawaii, and not have to worry about looking over her shoulder for LE with all the costs associated with it (bail, lawyers). I suppose that might be a reason why the rate never went up. Twenty, 25 years later that girl who was 25 is 50 and still here because she's comfortable and settled in. But that $200 tip won't attract anyone younger to work here.
I'm thinking more like $500 for 45 minutes. And that's not including extras like BBBJ, BBFS and anal.[/QUOTE]
Their website says that her name is Monika and is 26. Any takers?
[QUOTE=Roadrally2;5697660]Is this the one you went to?
[URL]https://honolulu-therapeuticmassage.bedpage.com/liliha-kapalama/18139541.html[/URL]
This place used to be by pali hwy. A rare winner but a lot of no so good experiences as well like yours. And expect to be rushed along quickly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheQuiz;5698053]Where are these places that stop in the middle of a service to ask for more money to continue? Sounds like those pay to play video games where you got to pay more money to unlock to get to the next mission / level. Name them so I can avoid.[/QUOTE]When I post and they do that, I include in my review. I do not remember them because I will not go back to those. Some massage places that only do HJ will do that too. You are all worked up from teasing and they ask if you want HJ. Then they say pay them for it first. Total buzz kill. I would have to look up old posts to remember which ones exactly.
[QUOTE=TheQuiz;5698053]Where are these places that stop in the middle of a service to ask for more money to continue? Sounds like those pay to play video games where you got to pay more money to unlock to get to the next mission / level. Name them so I can avoid.[/QUOTE]Had to think about it. Have not mongered too much since Covid. The last two I can remember doing that are off the top of my head were Miaa and Ava.
[QUOTE=SHunter;5699194]Had to think about it. Have not mongered too much since Covid. The last two I can remember doing that are off the top of my head were Miaa and Ava.[/QUOTE]Remembered had that happen at a Pearl City house and Aiea townhouse also.
I should have heeded GoFasBits report but figured I'd try since Monika is new. Totally fake pics. Mid-40 ugly toad. Maybe the former is right that the young pretty ones won't be coming. I need to see a pretty visiting escort soon.
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;5687345]After seeing a naked beauty on the Polo Field nude beach I needed a release.
Called Pin Tai and was told to ring the bell when I got there. Left slippers by door, went to shower to get sand and ocean off my body and to be clean in all the right places.
Taken to the "other" side of the spa. Got naked and comfortable face down on the table. In comes Julie, cute, mid 20's friendly. A little meat on her bones but soft and sweet. She leaves me naked as we introduce and chat a little, her English is good.
Nice massage, good pressure, I get the leg touches in, and eventually have my hand in a good position to touch her pussy over her yoga pants now and then as she moves around. She gets the idea and teases very nicely. Nice hot towel, and the flip. Her face is beautiful IMHO, and she has a nice smile with great eye contact if you enjoy looking at a pretty girl.
She starts teasing and moves to my now Phd, and as I touch her all over she shares her real B cup soft and sweet breasts with me. Her touches are sensual and enjoyable, as I have her pull her pants down because I want to touch her pussy. Hair patch in front, smooth as silk below. Very exciting.
She works my PhD and as I sit on edge of table she gets on knees in front of me. BBBJ with a smile and pretty eyes. Finish with a HJ that releases my load. I get relaxed, more hot towels for a clean up, and she continues to massage as we chat a little more. I get the full hour and am very happy.
Julie was great, I will see her again. If you want more I'd bet a good monger could get more, but I got exactly what I was looking for, and as always, YMMV.
Aloha.[/QUOTE]If you're referring to Pin Thai Aiea Town Square Julie, she is no where near mid-20's. If I were to speculate, the picture she uses may have resembled her when she was in her mid-20's but she's probably double that age now, in her 40's or 50's. She's Chinese, about 5' tall, and maybe 160 lbs. Worthless massage which mostly consisted of her elbow on my spine and ribs. Zero skill to her technique. Not attractive one bit to me. Maybe if you're 60 years old+ with almost zero chance of getting fresh pussy, she might be considered attractive.
[QUOTE=HarryNuts9999;5700827]If you're referring to Pin Thai Aiea Town Square Julie, she is no where near mid-20's. If I were to speculate, the picture she uses may have resembled her when she was in her mid-20's but she's probably double that age now, in her 40's or 50's. She's Chinese, about 5' tall, and maybe 160 lbs. Worthless massage which mostly consisted of her elbow on my spine and ribs. Zero skill to her technique. Not attractive one bit to me. Maybe if you're 60 years old+ with almost zero chance of getting fresh pussy, she might be considered attractive.[/QUOTE]Harrynuts must be blind Julie is not 20' she is almost 50 Chinese use to own a shop in century center until she got busted.
Massage is not great BBBJ sucks too.
[URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/honolulu/18128715.html[/URL]
Has anyone tried this place before and have info?
[QUOTE=SexBozo;5700875]Harrynuts must be blind Julie is not 20' she is almost 50 Chinese use to own a shop in century center until she got busted.
Massage is not great BBBJ sucks too.[/QUOTE]Yup unfortunately some reviews are straight BS.
[QUOTE=TheJayThatPays;5701008][URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/honolulu/18128715.html[/URL]
Has anyone tried this place before and have info?[/QUOTE]Here's my review from a couple days ago. Doubt I will go back.
[QUOTE=HarryNuts9999;5696190]Saya is not it, fellas. Not a single thing about her or her service excels in any way. Not going to go over specifics, but she will try to get more than $200 for a FS session though she settled on $200 total. The entire session, she scolded me at least five times, it just wasnt a good experience. Her massage table sucks. F'ing on it sucks even more. The wood legs on hard floor makes a lot of noise and she will complain about it. If I were to guess, she's definitely not in her 30's and most likely in her mid-40's. I don't know for sure if she's Japanese. Maybe Japanese, maybe Chinese who lived in Japan. She said a few things in Japanese. She's about 5'0" or just under, skinny but has a slight belly. She's not hot or exotic looking in any way, maybe you might consider her cute looking. For her asking price of $260+, that's a hell no from me. If all other providers were busy and I was hard up for a FS session, maybe I might repeat but most likely not. For $200, there are so many better providers.[/QUOTE]