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Saw an ad on BP for a rub down. Booked an appointment with CeCe. Confirmed it was $160 for an hour massage with no tipping required. She was gorgeous, very happy with what I saw. Left very happy.
Because it was no tip required I only brought the cash to bring to the appointment. She never asked for more money but at the end I felt bad for not having brought more to compliment her for leaving me so satisfied. How do you handle these situations? If I wanted to return what would you suggest?
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She posts a lot on BP and my imagination is running away with me. Does anyone know if she is legit? I've tried looking other places without much luck.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2658308]Sometimes knowing Mandarin helps sometimes not.[/QUOTE]My point is, stereotype works both ways. It's a sad truth.
If you are White and know Mandarin, you are off a good start, if you are ethnic minorities, chances are not as good, but if you let them know you are a good citizen of Uncle Sam (your turn to sell the illusion of helping them get green cards), you odds may increase for getting these great deals like Bob's story.
A genuine personal connection is yet another unicorn in this hobby. Like meeting people in real life, it all depends on your look, $, charm and a million things. Sometimes it is a two way street, often time it's just a one way.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2658308]Sometimes knowing Mandarin helps sometimes not.[/QUOTE]Learning even something as basic as how to say "Hello" and "Thank you" helps. I've had far better sessions with Asians at MP's when I could address mamasan and the provider in their language. Most smart phones will give you access to a basic translation with an audio playback you can listen to and memorize. Just be sure to check translations: I once tried to learn something more complex, and after I'd memorized the phrase, I entered the text for a reverse translation. Found out I was asking for something *very* different (and slightly embarrassing).
[QUOTE=HottieHunter42;2658067]There has to be more to it. I'm nice to everyone. I'm friendly to everyone. It has never gotten me laid.
[/QUOTE]Don't feel you're alone in this regard. It hasn't worked for me either.
[QUOTE=Castlerae;2658567]Learning even something as basic as how to say "Hello" and "Thank you" helps. I've had far better sessions with Asians at MP's when I could address mamasan and the provider in their language. Most smart phones will give you access to a basic translation with an audio playback you can listen to and memorize. Just be sure to check translations: I once tried to learn something more complex, and after I'd memorized the phrase, I entered the text for a reverse translation. Found out I was asking for something *very* different (and slightly embarrassing).[/QUOTE]I'm white. Decent-looking (the girls all like to say "Oh! You so hansum!" but not sure if I can treally trust their sincerity, due to the circumstances LOL). Smart, funny good personality. NOt a lot of $$ though, but otherwise, I'm a pretty good catch LOL!
I do know how to say hello and thank you in Chinese. They do seem to perk up and respond when they hear you at least try to converse with themin their native language. I guess it shows that you're serious and show at least a bit of interest in them as a person.
And I guess that's where it starts!
I think RD summed it up pretty well. For what its worth, I'm 63 and have diabetes ED, use viagra, am married, and by no means am I a stud. I do pay a lot of attention to these women. I probably have a "type" that I go for. 40-50 year old (non-pro) divorced Chinese women, and a few 30 year olds. I don't deliberately pick them, but these are the ones that I seem to click with. For me 50 year old is "young", haha. Several of them speak little English, although over time, all are learning. In fact, I am teaching English to two right now. (Naked English lessons.) I also let two others practice driving using my car. I meet most of the women in foot spas, so they do not normally give hand-jobs to guys. These are all lonely women with no transportation, few friends, separated from their families. Also, it turns out, they have not had sex in quite a while. Until they meet me.
The real common theme is: Relationships. Not transactions. I actually care about them. Hopefully, it shows. For example, we posted about Island Spa. The current woman is probably 60. Scared to death of the police because she saw another woman arrested. It turns out this poor woman is putting her son through college in England. It breaks my heart to see the sacrifices these women make for their family. She's married, so I know sex is off the table.
I always get the name. And their Chinese name. Get to know where they are from in China. I memorize this shit. So when I see them again, I can ask about their mother, or son, or whatever. I save all this information in WeChat and my Google Contacts, along with the geocoordinates of where they live and work. I spend quite a bit of time. Hours - WeChatting with these people. So we truly have relationships and they all know I care about them. I buy presents. I learned about 100 Chinese words. And they love teaching me Chinese while I teach them English.
In a massage session, (sometimes even in a Foot Spa) I massage the woman, usually about 10 minutes into the hour. (Never ever get half hour).
So last Wednesday, for example, the woman I posted about was a legit masseuse, I've known for a couple years. WeChat contacts and many sessions at a foot spa. She's now at a conventional spa. (which shall go nameless to protect her). I went into the room with her, and asked her to stay. I took of my clothes in front of her. Then faced her and embraced her and kissed her. I happened to kiss her neck and she shudders and moaned and her knees sort of buckled. (Made a mental note to remember that "move").
I will digress to say, that since these women are non-pros, the whole idea is to give them pleasure first. They always reciprocate. And like I said, it's never about the money. Its about kindness, affection, and a good orgasm. A common theme in life. If you know how to give a girl a great orgasm, she will remember you.
So I went to the table laid down and asked her to lie next to me. Took all her clothes off, and made out. Whenever I did something that caused a moan or reaction, I filed that away and continued. By the way, oral sex is pretty uncommon in China, especially DATY. So each woman was initially afraid, but at the same time, tremendously aroused, since she probably never got it before. When we finished, she actually said, "I needed that". I felt good that I could give her that pleasure. I am certain, future sessions will be just as good. When I see her on her day off, I know there will be no charge. After all, she is not a prostitute. She's a woman who enjoys spending time with me and having sex.
The point here is not to talk about my session or my women. But rather to say it's just a mindset. Pick a few women you connect with. And make sure you take care of your partner, emotionally, and physically.
[QUOTE=HottieHunter42;2658842]I'm white. Decent-looking (the girls all like to say "Oh! You so hansum!" but not sure if I can treally trust their sincerity, due to the circumstances LOL). Smart, funny good personality. NOt a lot of $$ though, but otherwise, I'm a pretty good catch LOL!
I do know how to say hello and thank you in Chinese. They do seem to perk up and respond when they hear you at least try to converse with themin their native language. I guess it shows that you're serious and show at least a bit of interest in them as a person.
And I guess that's where it starts![/QUOTE]
Any MPs with a Latin flair? Had my fill of AMPs for the moment; PM me with details.
Any one been to the massage apartment in Lakeview?
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I know her pics are fake; I tried TTOFT but my spidey senses where in overdrive that night and I ended up standing her up probably over nothing. I think she works with a few other girls.
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She posts a lot on BP and my imagination is running away with me. Does anyone know if she is legit? I've tried looking other places without much luck.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7597-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2551429#post2551429[/URL].
[QUOTE=Bob521;2657340]For example, today I saw a good friend. Gave her $80 tip. For legit massage. Tomorrow we are going to a hotel and fuck for three hours. No tip. Just sex. It all balances out. Also when I left the legit place today, I saw another friend. Make out session. Oral sex. Fully Naked. Got her off twice. $60. Tip. But she wants to see me on her day off now. The idea, is that both people should enjoy. Then it is less about money, and more about having a good time. And having a good friend. Bob.[/QUOTE]3-4 years ago I use to have 3 setups like that from massage place, but they have moved on to far away places.
Good thing bcs I was getting involved with one of them seriously. And at my age that's dangerous.
and I have heard of this back then from the ladies but mostly to mature/older guys ,hardly any young guys ...and yes befriend them first and be clear if they might be shopping for green card
New to all of this. First time poster long time lurker. I am considering moving from AMP to incall. Anyone have intel on her? She has been advertising regularly on BP in body rub section. I did RTFF and don't see any posts on her. Posted in BP advertiser reviews forum as well.
Appreciate any info. Thanks.
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I meet most of the women in foot spas, so they do not normally give hand-jobs to guys. These are all lonely women with no transportation, few friends, separated from their families. Also, it turns out, they have not had sex in quite a while.
Perhaps that's a big part of it. Meeting these women in a (mostly) non-sexual context, I. E. A foot spa. Somewhere where sex is neither provided or expected. Where it is not a part of the overall equation from the start.
Maybe that's key. Maybe the reason that relationships rarely grow out of a routine massage parlor scenario is because the women working there know that it's a job that there is little opportunity or reason for attachment (though I'm sure it does still happen from time to time). They know what men are there for, and they know what THEY are there for (money) and that limits the potential.
A couple of years ago, I met a girl at a strip club. We have remained close friends, but she has made it fairly clear that there will never be more than that between us, since she knows where we met and believes that this would prevent us from ever being in a relationship, since I'll always remember her in that context, and she fears that it could be brought us and used against her during a future argument. Also, she knows why I was there, so let's be honest about that, too LOL! The whole working girl / monger dichotomy, preventing any future serious entanglements between anyone meeting under those circumstances.
But, if you meet in a non-directly sexual situation, you can perhaps grow it into some more. Maybe much more.
And yes. Being nice I'm sure helps, too.
HH.
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But, if you meet in a non-directly sexual situation, you can perhaps grow it into some more. Maybe much more.
And yes. Being nice I'm sure helps, too.
HH.[/QUOTE]Been there done that. This has never worked for me. In fact it's more trouble than it's worth. For me meeting ladies the old fashoned traditional way is a waste. I want to have fun now, not in ten years. LOL. At least with a pro you know what to expect.
Actually, I do both. I see my relationship friends. But I also go to Anna's, Yun, Lux, etc. Actually, because I get the contact information, I've maintained contact with quite a few women that move on to other places. It is really just networking. Like in conventional "sales". Introductions, etc. Its really a numbers game. Bob.
[QUOTE=RonM;2660493]Been there done that. This has never worked for me. In fact it's more trouble than it's worth. For me meeting ladies the old fashoned traditional way is a waste. I want to have fun now, not in ten years. LOL. At least with a pro you know what to expect.[/QUOTE]