"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=FScott;3437978]Far,

I hear what you say, and am taking this whole thing with a small grain of salt, but so far things look very promising. On my last trip to Nola I was able to set up a threesome with two babies who did not know each other previously, but both indicated in their profiles that they were looking for women as well as men, and it was a pretty mind-blowing experience. Currently, one of my two regular ATFs is out of state for a couple of months, so I have a little free time to play around with the concept and see what happens.

Just to be clear, the two babies who are on SA are on separately, not as a "couple". I agree, those "two for one" profiles are always more bluster than booty, and are often very cleverly worded to hint at, but not confirm, that there will be panties on the floor.

As a humorous aside, I got a message from a small, blonde but honestly not all that hot baby I had contacted who had indicated that she was into women as well as men that read, "I don't think you have the financial ability to interest me. I would want 1. 5 k for each of us, and a recent full panel std test from both of you. " My reply - "Good luck with that!" Honestly, where do they get these ideas? I've been seeing a handful of profiles saying the baby is into FinDom, which is when they squeeze a guy for all the money he has, and apparently that is the pleasure for him. Is that really a thing? Who the fuck would enjoy that?

Sometimes I do wonder!

Cheers,

Scott.[/QUOTE]I do hear what you're saying there. In a similar way to the 'service' we provide SBs who are on SA to be adventurous and explore things they'd be too shy to do in a 'regular' relationship, you're giving them a window into something they are curious about and providing the logistical support and anonymity. I like it! I've never done the FMF. Perhaps it's in the future for the SOs next trip.

I've truly got my hands overfull from a month + on SA. Several in my rotation, many POTs who need cultivation, and a true bucketlist angel I am pursuing as posted earlier. As a brief aside, our M&G did not happen but I have verified the lady is everything she says.

[QUOTE=MulchMan;3437790]Your inbox is full.[/QUOTE]Empty now.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3438028]I do hear what you're saying there. In a similar way to the 'service' we provide SBs who are on SA to be adventurous and explore things they'd be too shy to do in a 'regular' relationship, you're giving them a window into something they are curious about and providing the logistical support and anonymity. I like it! I've never done the FMF. Perhaps it's in the future for the SOs next trip.

I've truly got my hands overfull from a month + on SA. Several in my rotation, many POTs who need cultivation, and a true bucketlist angel I am pursuing as posted earlier. As a brief aside, our M&G did not happen but I have verified the lady is everything she says.[/QUOTE]I highly recommend them. I've had 5 so far, two with one of my long-term ATFs, two with babies I no longer see, sadly, and the aforementioned 1 in Nola. They are addicting, I have to warn you! If the girls are really into each other, you can just sit back and watch the show while you "recharge" and bank those visuals for the Old Folk's Home! There is some etiquette involved which I discovered through experience that I'd be happy to share once you get to the point of needing it, and some tips to get the ball rolling, so to speak. And keep in mind, no girl doesn't like champagne!

Tally ho!

Scott.

[QUOTE=FScott;3438138]I highly recommend them. I've had 5 so far, two with one of my long-term ATFs, two with babies I no longer see, sadly, and the aforementioned 1 in Nola. They are addicting, I have to warn you! If the girls are really into each other, you can just sit back and watch the show while you "recharge" and bank those visuals for the Old Folk's Home! There is some etiquette involved which I discovered through experience that I'd be happy to share once you get to the point of needing it, and some tips to get the ball rolling, so to speak. And keep in mind, no girl doesn't like champagne!

Tally ho!

Scott.[/QUOTE]There's no doubt there's a sort of universal appeal of girl-girl action for us, IDK why, perhaps it's that we project ourselves into the roles of both girls simultaneously. Mostly fulfilled vicariously in porn, an opportunity now afforded to those of us who play on SA. And, I've had more than one SB ask for champagne for the FC, and I think *all* of us are banking visuals (in my case, even more archival material) for the days we can't play in the bowl (or whatever it becomes in a couple of decades) anymore. I realized returning from my gym this morning that my goal in life is to fuck as many high quality women as I can.

Great minds and all that.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3438284] I realized returning from my gym this morning that my goal in life is to fuck as many high quality women as I can.[/QUOTE]Great minds indeed!

I was in talks with a beautiful blonde model recently. She came out of the gate with a price tag twice of what I typically pay, but was down for the FC right after the M&G. I considered overpaying for a moment because she would have been a "trophy fuck" for me, similar to mounting a fourteen-point buck on your wall. My big head did not let the little head take control, so I told her I cannot commit on an allowance until after meeting despite her mercenary insistence. Nowadays, so many of these SB's are misrepresenting themselves online, you just don't know what is going to show up at Starbucks. My noncommittal response pissed her off, and she blocked me. Disappointed and feeling like I might have blown an opportunity to fuck a SB that checked all of the boxes for me, I typed in a couple unique hobbies and interests she had into Google. Up pops her profile on some crowdfunding sites. I follow the trail from there to her social media websites and Amazon wishlists. She describes herself as a radical feminist, manipulator, and cam girl. Damn, this chick was working many different angles to get money. I see pictures of her that are far less appealing than what she put on her sugar profile (aka unedited, unfiltered full body pics). She was saying she was slim, but in reality was what I'd call average and very plain. The allowance amount she was demanding was now laughable in my mind. I came to the conclusion I would likely been scammed or ripped off somehow should I have gone through and met her at the coffee shop. Even if she somehow followed through on her promise of going to the FC, I'm sure it would have been uninspired starfish sex.

Be careful out there.

SDX.

There are so many ways to converse w / babies, you may not have gotten to this one yet, but I've been using it a fair amount lately, and see it's advantages. It is a phone app only, so you need a smart burner. It's free, you sign up with an email address and phone #, both of which can be burners. Because the messages go away after they have been read, girls who are skittish may feel more comfortable using it. For people to converse each has to add the other to their friends list. I have given my snapchat username to girls on SA and had their only contact w / me be on Snap. They can easily send pix and videos, which again they may be more willing to do b / c they know they are going away. I have taken a pic of my profile photo from SA and sent it to POTs. I believe it is possible to press and hold a message to keep it, but I am by no means an expert in using the app. I haven't been able to get messages, pix, or video out of the app into something more permanent. Someone else who reads this thread may want to give us all the tricks and traps of using it.

I believe it is strong on the anonymity aspect, with one caveat that cuts both ways. It has a feature that enables one to find friends on Snap in your own phone contact list. This works to my advantage w / babies if they give me their phone #, provided they used that # to set up their Snap account. From that feature I get a list of suggested friends, and often the username on Snap (which the baby hasn't provided me) is revealing. It can even be some variation on their real name and then you get valuable intel / verification on her, or it is also a username from other social media. The user avatar can also include a composite of pix of her, so you can verify her looks. Of course, you have to be careful not to add as friend someone who doesn't even know you are on Snap. Then you look like a stalker.

I have used Snapchat with a few babies. It is the preferred communication method these days with the millennials along with Instagram. Although if parents and guys our age are catching on to it, that means they're already moving to something we don't even know about yet. As far as I know, the only way to permanently capture anything is to do a screenshot. I also believe if you do a screenshot that the person who sent the message is notified of that. Anonymity is the key on this app. There was some news last week that they've added location to the app, but you have to opt into it. Make sure that's turned off though and hopefully your baby has it turned on, LOL.

Good hunting,

Travelin'.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3445952]There are so many ways to converse w / babies, you may not have gotten to this one yet, but I've been using it a fair amount lately, and see it's advantages. It is a phone app only, so you need a smart burner. It's free, you sign up with an email address and phone #, both of which can be burners. Because the messages go away after they have been read, girls who are skittish may feel more comfortable using it. For people to converse each has to add the other to their friends list. I have given my snapchat username to girls on SA and had their only contact w / me be on Snap. They can easily send pix and videos, which again they may be more willing to do b / c they know they are going away. I have taken a pic of my profile photo from SA and sent it to POTs. I believe it is possible to press and hold a message to keep it, but I am by no means an expert in using the app. I haven't been able to get messages, pix, or video out of the app into something more permanent. Someone else who reads this thread may want to give us all the tricks and traps of using it.

I believe it is strong on the anonymity aspect, with one caveat that cuts both ways. It has a feature that enables one to find friends on Snap in your own phone contact list. This works to my advantage w / babies if they give me their phone #, provided they used that # to set up their Snap account. From that feature I get a list of suggested friends, and often the username on Snap (which the baby hasn't provided me) is revealing. It can even be some variation on their real name and then you get valuable intel / verification on her, or it is also a username from other social media. The user avatar can also include a composite of pix of her, so you can verify her looks. Of course, you have to be careful not to add as friend someone who doesn't even know you are on Snap. Then you look like a stalker.[/QUOTE]

What do those of you who have a burner think about interfacing it with other parts of our real lives? Do you use the WiFi network at home? Do you link it to the bluetooth in your car? Why or why not? I've done none of this, and can think of arguments on both sides. My regular cell phone is linked to both of those.

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3446146]I have used Snapchat with a few babies. It is the preferred communication method these days with the millennials along with Instagram. Although if parents and guys our age are catching on to it, that means they're already moving to something we don't even know about yet. As far as I know, the only way to permanently capture anything is to do a screenshot. I also believe if you do a screenshot that the person who sent the message is notified of that. Anonymity is the key on this app. There was some news last week that they've added location to the app, but you have to opt into it. Make sure that's turned off though and hopefully your baby has it turned on, LOL.

Good hunting,

Travelin'.[/QUOTE]I checked into my situation, and on Snap there is something saying it accesses a laundry list of features from the phone, including exact location (GPS and network based). There was no opt out that I could see. I then went into Settings and Denied location info to the app. I got the standard scary message that if I did this the app might not work correctly. This is an Android phone.

If someone can tell me where to look for the baby's location, I'd appreciate that.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3446435]What do those of you who have a burner think about interfacing it with other parts of our real lives? Do you use the WiFi network at home? Do you link it to the bluetooth in your car? Why or why not? I've done none of this, and can think of arguments on both sides. My regular cell phone is linked to both of those.[/QUOTE]With your SO in the passenger seat and the phone goes off on bluetooth because you forgot to turn it off. Next stop the divorce lawyer's office.

Just as we discuss SBs and sugaring in general here and specific SBs in various local fora are there similar fora for SBs to talk about us?!

If there are I would like to be a fly on the wall at these places!

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;3449176]Just as we discuss SBs and sugaring in general here and specific SBs in various local fora are there similar fora for SBs to talk about us?!

If there are I would like to be a fly on the wall at these places![/QUOTE]I have wondered the same thing.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;3449176]Just as we discuss SBs and sugaring in general here and specific SBs in various local fora are there similar fora for SBs to talk about us?!

If there are I would like to be a fly on the wall at these places![/QUOTE]I have posted on these before, I can't recall the specifics. I think one might be called let's talk sugar, with appropriate word combos to make a web address. Of course there are blogs for SBs, and of course there is the possibility that SBs are reading this forum to get intel on guys. This one of the premier reasons that it is stupid to post 'reviews' and pix of girls here like they were Backpage hookers. It will piss them off, first, and second, may even reveal key elements of our personal info that could allow SBs to identify us. We are typically more honest in posts here with who we are and what we are up to than when we are telling our sugar stories to POTs. This may not be so relevant for the Richmond thread, since it is de facto a national audience, but there are several local SB / arrangement threads.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3449309]This one of the premier reasons that it is stupid to post 'reviews' and pix of girls here like they were Backpage hookers. This may not be so relevant for the Richmond thread, since it is de facto a national audience, but there are several local SB / arrangement threads.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with this. Although I am not in the Richmond area, I never post pics even though I have a few nice ones. I'm single and have girls out to my place so the identity thing is moot, but I don't want to blow up a good thing because one of my friends stumbles across a pic of herself doing something she wouldn't want her mother to see!