"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Thank you. She needed financial help too but we seemed to hit it off well socially.

But I had no idea she was so horny. As soon as I went down on her, I knew she was a live one.

She was not shy at all about expressing her pleasure and the naughty places she wanted me to touch.

Extremely vocal throughout and the longer we went, the naughtier the phrases were out of her mouth. She did not.

Tell me she was a squirter beforehand but the first time she did I felt it right away. Soon I figured out that going straight in deep.

Would make her squirt on demand. She loved the release each one brought and it seemed she could not get enough. I was afraid I would dehydrate her. Each time I went in deep and hard she would never fail to squirt. I know it seems like I'm exaggerating but I know it had to be close to 15 times. I enjoyed it as much as she did. I would not have believed it myself if I hadn't experienced it first hand.

[QUOTE=JackOhhhh;3423337]Care to share her with the rest of us? Sounds like could be a lot of fun. Thanks either way. Nice post![/QUOTE]Sorry, I'm in the Midwest, not the Richmond area.

I have seen a bunch of instances of SB's posting pictures in their profile of them with their previous or current SD's. They don't even bother blur the guy's face out. I don't know about you guys, but I do not want my picture or PII on some slore's profile pics. Here were a few I can recollect:

-Girl sitting in a hotel bar with a SD. They both have a glass of wine. The SB lists only being 20 in her profile. Visual evidence of buying a minor alcohol.

-Girl taking a selfie in a supercar with a SD. You can clearly tell what kind of car it is by the interior and logos. Since probably fewer than 50 people in the whole metropolitan area own that brand of car, it is pretty easy to trace back to that guy's employer, family, spouse, etc.

-Girl posing in front of the SD's Corvette. The front license plate is prominent and clearly visible in the center of the picture. One could even tell which condo complex's the SD was living in based on the background scenery.

I have a no picture policy. It is a part of the whole "discretion" and "privacy" thing for me. I am guessing guys who take pictures with their sugar babies have nothing to lose. Pictures live forever once posted on the internet.

SDX.

[QUOTE=Rdudreaming;3423857]Assume for a moment that the girl is not found in the room chopped up with a chain saw, what difference does it make? Pay cash. No invoices sent to the house. Use real I'd. Clear all incidentals before you leave. Is it likely that the hotel clerk is going to mail a copy of your I'd to your SO? If it's PI paranoia, he already took pics of you going in the notel regardless of a fake name.[/QUOTE]This is not a trivial question, which you imply. This topic is covered many places in these threads. You're a newbie here, you really ought to spend some time reading the path your elders have laid down for all. You are trying to not only keep your being in a hotel from your SO, you are trying to keep your real identity from the SB. Hotels have been known to screw up and answer a question from a departing SB ('your wife'). They also often slide an invoice under the door in the morning. If you've been lucky enough to get the girl to spend the night with you, and she wakes up first, well, there's your name served up on a platter. This is a way I confirmed the real name of one of my current SBs. I have the girls get the room and reimburse them when they are single.

So, are you an expert in which hotels are parts of different master chains, and which have frequent stay programs. Quick, is Quality Inn part of Starwood? Do you have an account under your real name with all of the major hotel chains? What if a stay at a local, down-market brand of a big chain showed up on a printed statement of your points? You'd like to keep that from the SO, right? But maybe you forgot. It's true, if you reserve w/ a credit card and give it as a deposit at checkin, but then pay off everything with cash at check out, a paper trail isn't generated. I do keep the zero balance receipt just in case the charge isn't taken off my card.

The big problem is that photo 'ID' is required to check into most hotel rooms today. I handle this by reserving with a misspelling of my real name and a fictitious address. I flash the drivers license, they usually barely look at it, and if they do I just say it doesn't matter and I've moved since I got it.

[QUOTE=JackOhhhh;3422490]Thanks LoVecchio.

IMHO, there is really no need to discuss whether it will be long-term ore a one-time thing. It's just a date after all. If you take her to a nice dinner she will know she is expected to put out if she wants to see you again. I'm not saying to "play a game". If you are from out of town, fair enough. She doesn't need to know when you will return. Most of them have several daddies, I'm sure they won't be sharing that info with you. If you treat them well, I think they will be happy. I certainly wouldn't advertise you are only looking for a one-time hook up.

Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]You may be right that I would have been better off simply saying that I was coming to town and making no reference to whether I would ever be back or whether it could evolve into a regular thing. I generally try to be as straightforward as possible (sometimes to my detriment), but I may have discouraged some girls who might have been willing to see me with no express assurance of a re-run but who would be unwilling to do it when explicitly told it was a one-time deal. (On the other hand, I wouldn't have wanted to meet up with a girl who has a no-sex-on-first-date policy and wants to wait for that never-to-come second date).

[QUOTE=LongLasting;3423994]Thank you. She needed financial help too but we seemed to hit it off well socially.

But I had no idea she was so horny. As soon as I went down on her, I knew she was a live one.

She was not shy at all about expressing her pleasure and the naughty places she wanted me to touch.

Extremely vocal throughout and the longer we went, the naughtier the phrases were out of her mouth. She did not.

Tell me she was a squirter beforehand but the first time she did I felt it right away. Soon I figured out that going straight in deep.

Would make her squirt on demand. She loved the release each one brought and it seemed she could not get enough. I was afraid I would dehydrate her. Each time I went in deep and hard she would never fail to squirt. I know it seems like I'm exaggerating but I know it had to be close to 15 times. I enjoyed it as much as she did. I would not have believed it myself if I hadn't experienced it first hand.[/QUOTE]What you found was her "P" spot, chicks that love anal are getting off on that. Can also be accessed vaginally, but has to be VERY deep to reach. Bravo to you!

[QUOTE=LoVecchio;3424832]You may be right that I would have been better off simply saying that I was coming to town and making no reference to whether I would ever be back or whether it could evolve into a regular thing. I generally try to be as straightforward as possible (sometimes to my detriment), but I may have discouraged some girls who might have been willing to see me with no express assurance of a re-run but who would be unwilling to do it when explicitly told it was a one-time deal. (On the other hand, I wouldn't have wanted to meet up with a girl who has a no-sex-on-first-date policy and wants to wait for that never-to-come second date).[/QUOTE]Just like playing poker. If you have a full house, would you just lay them down for everyone to see? These girls know the deal. Play safe and smart pal.

I have made a practice of investigating the profiles of POTs I'm advancing with, including trying to find their photos elsewhere online (in case they are spoofing them). I have always just used my browser's function to save the image as a file. However, what downloads now is a little, 6 KB jpg, and I can't get it to open with my viewer. Tineye will also not use the downloaded file as input for a search. Is anyone else experienced with image searching having the same issues?

It seems like this might be a good thing for everyone, since none of our profile photos could be downloaded to either search for us or post on some of those predator sites mentioned here lately.

Another observation. It seems like there was just an influx of POTs. Perhaps this is because of the end of the school year for both public schools and universities where I am, southern California. I just saw a couple of hot teachers, and there are a number of coeds home for the summer. My paid membership just ended, and I can't message of course. Its' kind of a blessing, I need to spend more time on work. But hell, with 20+ messages piling up in my inbox from hot, hot women, it's hard to resist.

I know the reports here of people who have been thwarted from UTR communication w/ POTs on SA without paying - are there any better solutions afoot today?

I also read here that there is a short term membership available only on the SA app. Checked it out today. I believe it's 7 days for $35. Whereas the full month is the only thing offered on the website, and its' $80.

Be sure to push all their buttons.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3425417]Another observation. It seems like there was just an influx of POTs. Perhaps this is because of the end of the school year for both public schools and universities where I am, southern California. I just saw a couple of hot teachers, and there are a number of coeds home for the summer. My paid membership just ended, and I can't message of course. Its' kind of a blessing, I need to spend more time on work. But hell, with 20+ messages piling up in my inbox from hot, hot women, it's hard to resist.

I know the reports here of people who have been thwarted from UTR communication w/ POTs on SA without paying - are there any better solutions afoot today?

I also read here that there is a short term membership available only on the SA app. Checked it out today. I believe it's 7 days for $35. Whereas the full month is the only thing offered on the website, and its' $80.[/QUOTE]I just turn my account off if I'm not currently a member, to avoid the temptation to re-up. Ladies can't leave messages to an account that's turned off. Thanks for the info on short tee membership. I wasn't aware of that.

[QUOTE=JackOhhhh;3425180]What you found was her "P" spot, chicks that love anal are getting off on that. Can also be accessed vaginally, but has to be VERY deep to reach. Bravo to you![/QUOTE]She did say she liked anal although we didn't partake of that. Seemed like every part of.

Her was a firecracker waiting to pop. It was fun being the popper.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3425412]I have made a practice of investigating the profiles of POTs I'm advancing with, including trying to find their photos elsewhere online (in case they are spoofing them). I have always just used my browser's function to save the image as a file. However, what downloads now is a little, 6 KB jpg, and I can't get it to open with my viewer. Tineye will also not use the downloaded file as input for a search. Is anyone else experienced with image searching having the same issues?

It seems like this might be a good thing for everyone, since none of our profile photos could be downloaded to either search for us or post on some of those predator sites mentioned here lately.[/QUOTE]What you are doing sounds complicated and bit too much effort for me. I am sing Chrome on a Mac and surf using a conventional mouse. I simply hover mr cursor over the image then right click. It pops up a menu. One of the options is Search Google for Image. Click the option and off you go. It is very fast. Tineye might be a little more thorough but this works well-enough for me. The key is that you have to use a mouse. I have not figured out how to do it using the touchpad.

Bam.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3425417]Another observation. It seems like there was just an influx of POTs. Perhaps this is because of the end of the school year for both public schools and universities where I am, southern California.[/QUOTE]I've also noted, at least in my area, a much higher proportion than formerly of those who say "platonic only" or "no sex" or the like. It used to be rare, but now it seems like 5 to 10 percent have that disclaimer. I have the impression that some source where the SBs get their information is leading them to take this approach.

There's also been a very large influx of new SBs listing their age at 18. I'm assuming these are girls who are just finishing up high school. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like a girl ought to have some college under her belt before she's ready for the game. Somehow, it seems creepy to go out with a high-school senior, even if she's 18, although once she's a freshman, then it seems perfectly reasonable.

[QUOTE=LoVecchio;3426479]I've also noted, at least in my area, a much higher proportion than formerly of those who say "platonic only" or "no sex" or the like. It used to be rare, but now it seems like 5 to 10 percent have that disclaimer. I have the impression that some source where the SBs get their information is leading them to take this approach.

There's also been a very large influx of new SBs listing their age at 18. I'm assuming these are girls who are just finishing up high school. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like a girl ought to have some college under her belt before she's ready for the game. Somehow, it seems creepy to go out with a high-school senior, even if she's 18, although once she's a freshman, then it seems perfectly reasonable.[/QUOTE]No offense, LoVecchio, but that sounds like some twisted logic to me, even rationalizing. An 18 year old is still an 18 year old, whether she's a senior in high school or a freshman in college!

Safe mongering and sugaring!