Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Uncivil;2580340]I totally believe this. When I worked in the business, dancers could do whatever they wanted to whoever they wanted. I remember one time a dancer stole a customer's wallet. The customer complained, the manager looked in to it, and found the wallet in the dancer's locker. You know what happened to the dancer? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. What's worse is that this dancer wasn't even very attractive. So, the free pass isn't just for the elite, it is for all the girls. This is why I don't even go to strip clubs any more.[/QUOTE]There you go sticking up for Venom management again. I'm starting to wonder if you are one of the managers there. Hmmmm.

[QUOTE=Feaster69;2580411]There you go sticking up for Venom management again. I'm starting to wonder if you are one of the managers there. Hmmmm.[/QUOTE]I think maybe you misread the post or read it in the wrong voice. It seems to me he is validating TM's point. Or I could be misreading yours.

[QUOTE=GodsGiftedOne;2580779]I think maybe you misread the post or read it in the wrong voice. It seems to me he is validating TM's point. Or I could be misreading yours.[/QUOTE]I'm in agreement with you. Here it is Friday night after a long day at work, can't even go see my ATFs at the place cause of what happened last night.

May have to find another watering hole with fun ladies. I hate it when you have to start all over when on a short stay in a town.

Cheers.

TM.

[QUOTE=GodsGiftedOne;2580779]I think maybe you misread the post or read it in the wrong voice. It seems to me he is validating TM's point. Or I could be misreading yours.[/QUOTE]I understand what you are saying and yes validation may have been the point but when TM is pissed with Venom staff and it's pointed out that all the Clubs are like that kinda takes the light off the Venom screw-ups I guess venom is on the bottom of my list of clubs right now LOL.

I assumed Feaster69 was being sarcastic. Based on what I said, me siding with Venom management is a pretty far stretch, one that reaches into retardation. So, yeah, I hope that was just sarcasm.

But, to another poster's point. Yes, they're all like that. I worked a door at almost every club in this town at one time or another, and the management at each and every club is just chok-full of scumbags. To me, there isn't one that is any better or any worse than the other. They're all ran the same way.

What you have to keep in mind is that just like me, just like other doormen, and just like dancers, managers hop from club to club to club. It helps if you think of the strip club scene as one huge company with one huge talent pool, and each club just being different locations of the same entity. The culture, the mindset, the business philosophies are all identical.

[QUOTE=JuicyAmie69;2579886]I've said it before and I will say it again, I miss The Candy Store. Awe. Those were the days that nothing mattered but having fun.[/QUOTE]So very, very fondly.

[QUOTE=TucsonTaoist;2583461]So very, very fondly.[/QUOTE]I was so disappointed when I started dancing again two years ago and everything seemed different to me. The ladies the men the clubs. I am sad to say the entire environment has gone so downhill that it is almost not worth going out anymore. It sucks because if we want to go to a bar we want to see naked ladies, not falling down drunken idiots, along with the rest of the bs that has been happening so sad. If I owned a club I would make sure my ladies were clean, dressed up and ready to greet with a smile on their face. I guess not everyone cares about their business the way I do.

[QUOTE=SmokeShopJoe;2579828]To be fair that sounds like just about every club in Tucson. This towns clubs are all about fucking over everybody weather its dancers or customers. If you have a dollar they want to take it from you and tell you go get the hell out.[/QUOTE]Yea I have notice how some of these dancers you tip on stage will never come to you, Or some has club bf. The way look at it you need my money to pay your bills, so I personally stop going as much. I started going to phx strip club call the high lighter, some of the women that use to be in Tucson are up there. Plus the drink are all water down, so I started drink oj and sprite give the appearance of an alcohol drink and its cheaper. Also Raiders day time girls has turn into the candy stores at night when the VIP room with the door on it.

Depite being a business, the fact of the matter is, many of these girls won't dance for people that make them uncomfortable: peopel who stink, dress like slobs, too aggressive, etc (not that I am saying you fall into one of these categories).

Just as some patrons have prefered types of dancers, girls also have prefered types of customers.

[QUOTE=NavyNow;2585046]Yea I have notice how some of these dancers you tip on stage will never come to you, Or some has club bf. The way look at it you need my money to pay your bills, so I personally stop going as much. I started going to phx strip club call the high lighter, some of the women that use to be in Tucson are up there. Plus the drink are all water down, so I started drink oj and sprite give the appearance of an alcohol drink and its cheaper. Also Raiders day time girls has turn into the candy stores at night when the VIP room with the door on it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DesertRat520;2589253]Depite being a business, the fact of the matter is, many of these girls won't dance for people that make them uncomfortable: peopel who stink, dress like slobs, too aggressive, etc (not that I am saying you fall into one of these categories).




Just as some patrons have prefered types of dancers, girls also have prefered types of customers.[/QUOTE]I'd have to say I am one of these dancers, if after a few minutes of talking and we do not click or the guy is rude I will not dance for them. I am a little different though I don't agree with people treating us like ignorant women just because we're dancers. It's all in the way you talk to us. I like to have fun too and if I'm not feeling it then I will find someone else just like any customer does. I don't feel like I have to put up with someone because of the money, if you are the one paying you don't either go find a better lady there are a few good ones left.

[QUOTE=JuicyAmie69;2589305]I'd have to say I am one of these dancers, if after a few minutes of talking and we do not click or the guy is rude I will not dance for them. I am a little different though I don't agree with people treating us like ignorant women just because we're dancers. It's all in the way you talk to us. I like to have fun too and if I'm not feeling it then I will find someone else just like any customer does. I don't feel like I have to put up with someone because of the money, if you are the one paying you don't either go find a better lady there are a few good ones left.[/QUOTE]I hear you but, my self has always been a gentleman dress nice and be clean, some people just don't come up to you cause they are intimidate.

Or think you cheap, some of the dancer I ask why they don't come up to us. Can't say here but it's ridiculous.

I visited the venom a few days ago, saw a really nice looking Hispanic girl call Alize. She mention she worked at Td's west also. I was wondering if anyone has any info on this beauty. She has long straight red hair.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=NavyNow;2589444]I hear you but, my self has always been a gentleman dress nice and be clean, some people just don't come up to you cause they are intimidate.

Or think you cheap, some of the dancer I ask why they don't come up to us. Can't say here but it's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Most of the things I hear come out of a women's mouth is ridiculous, so that does not surprise me. Watch the women see who sits and talks as opposed to a walk by ask for dance, the ones that actually sit and talk for a few minutes are probably worth your time, but remember this is their job. If they do not think you are interested they may walk away after 3-4 songs of talking.

[QUOTE=JuicyAmie69;2589305]I'd have to say I am one of these dancers, if after a few minutes of talking and we do not click or the guy is rude I will not dance for them. I am a little different though I don't agree with people treating us like ignorant women just because we're dancers. It's all in the way you talk to us. I like to have fun too and if I'm not feeling it then I will find someone else just like any customer does. I don't feel like I have to put up with someone because of the money, if you are the one paying you don't either go find a better lady there are a few good ones left.[/QUOTE]And it's not just a customer's attitude.

So many guys come in those places after getting off work who are covered in paint, or dirt, and smell like shit. Or you get the people who are apparently just "allergic" to showering or doing laundry.

And look and smell like some bum who just walked off the street.

I can't even stand sitting next to guys like that, so I couldn't imagine a girl wanting to dance for them. Those kinds of guys shouldn't even be allowed in clubs.

[QUOTE=DesertRat520;2589918]And it's not just a customer's attitude.

So many guys come in those places after getting off work who are covered in paint, or dirt, and smell like shit. Or you get the people who are apparently just "allergic" to showering or doing laundry.

And look and smell like some bum who just walked off the street.

I can't even stand sitting next to guys like that, so I couldn't imagine a girl wanting to dance for them. Those kinds of guys shouldn't even be allowed in clubs.[/QUOTE]I have declined offers by nice looking dancers that just came back from s smoke break. They wrench of nicotine. It is enough to gag a maggot. No tits or ass is worth it.

Hey, I'm new to the hobby and will be visiting Tucson soon, I'm looking for the best SC to visit for a few drinks, some dances, preferably some VIP experience too. I have not been to Tucson before, but this forum has been very helpful. From the previous threads, it sounds like Curves or Venom are good options. I have read some other things about TD's and Eden, is it really true? What kind of experiences can you share with me. Anyhow, I'll be staying in a hotel within walking distance of Christie's Cabaret. Can anyone share more about Christie's? How would you rate the women there? How is the service? Do they offer a VIP experience? I'm looking for a good time but also want to be treated well and safe of course. Thanks for sharing guys and gals. Be in Tucson soon!

[QUOTE=SaskDoobiest;2595049]Hey, I'm new to the hobby and will be visiting Tucson soon, I'm looking for the best SC to visit for a few drinks, some dances, preferably some VIP experience too. I have not been to Tucson before, but this forum has been very helpful. From the previous threads, it sounds like Curves or Venom are good options. I have read some other things about TD's and Eden, is it really true? What kind of experiences can you share with me. Anyhow, I'll be staying in a hotel within walking distance of Christie's Cabaret. Can anyone share more about Christie's? How would you rate the women there? How is the service? Do they offer a VIP experience? I'm looking for a good time but also want to be treated well and safe of course. Thanks for sharing guys and gals. Be in Tucson soon![/QUOTE]I've never been to Christie's Cabaret but have been to Venom, Curves, Eden, and TD's West. Venom is pretty good, but there was a shooting in the parking lot a month or two ago. The google ad says they're only open to 8 pm but they're still open to 2 am. I went there last Saturday and had fun, got six lap dances from a dancer named Sugar who I recommend. Curves is consistently good, more experienced members have more and better advice than I do about Curves. Eden can be fun but I don't recommend the VIP or Cabana. The two pluses Eden has are you of A coeds (female students from a nearby university) go there, and the dancers get friendly with female customers. Dancers frequently take the top off of female customers and play with their boobs. And Eden is open until 4 am, so some really good dancers who mostly work at other SCs sometimes work an hour or two at Eden after the other SC closes. If you go to Eden I recommend a Thursday, Friday, or Saturday evening after midnight to enjoy the show from female customers and then possibly a VIP dance after dancers arrives after 2 am. Sometimes a really good dancer will have a slow night somewhere else and be looking to make money at Eden. My experience is fully nude VIP dances are $30. My favorite Eden dancer (who only works at Eden) is Nikki, I respect her boundaries and always have a good experience. TD's West is pretty good but can be hit or miss. There are dancers who live in Phoenix and sometimes work a weekend at TD's or Raider's Reef who are really good. A few curvy black dancers occasionally come down and dance at TD's or Raider's Reef. When I went to Venom the bouncer commented on TD's East stealing all their business, I'll check it out when I get the chance.

I hope you have fun in Tucson, and post any great results.

[QUOTE=TucsonGuy2015;2595865]I've never been to Christie's Cabaret but have been to Venom, Curves, Eden, and TD's West. Venom is pretty good, but there was a shooting in the parking lot a month or two ago. The google ad says they're only open to 8 pm but they're still open to 2 am. I went there last Saturday and had fun, got six lap dances from a dancer named Sugar who I recommend. Curves is consistently good, more experienced members have more and better advice than I do about Curves. Eden can be fun but I don't recommend the VIP or Cabana. The two pluses Eden has are you of A coeds (female students from a nearby university) go there, and the dancers get friendly with female customers. Dancers frequently take the top off of female customers and play with their boobs. And Eden is open until 4 am, so some really good dancers who mostly work at other SCs sometimes work an hour or two at Eden after the other SC closes. If you go to Eden I recommend a Thursday, Friday, or Saturday evening after midnight to enjoy the show from female customers and then possibly a VIP dance after dancers arrives after 2 am. Sometimes a really good dancer will have a slow night somewhere else and be looking to make money at Eden. My experience is fully nude VIP dances are $30. My favorite Eden dancer (who only works at Eden) is Nikki, I respect her boundaries and always have a good experience. TD's West is pretty good but can be hit or miss. There are dancers who live in Phoenix and sometimes work a weekend at TD's or Raider's Reef who are really good. A few curvy black dancers occasionally come down and dance at TD's or Raider's Reef. When I went to Venom the bouncer commented on TD's East stealing all their business, I'll check it out when I get the chance.

I hope you have fun in Tucson, and post any great results.[/QUOTE]My experience at tds east is if you touch a dancers butt at your table you may get thrown out. Cabanas at venom are very good experiences. Negotiate a top price for what you want before going into the cabana.

Anyone have any experience with Charlie at Tens? (Pretty sure it isn't the same Charlie from Venom). She works open to 6. Really cute, young, petite with great naturals.

She gives great floor dances- was wondering if anyone knows if VIP with her is worthwhile?

[QUOTE=ChallengerSrt;2496942]Does Sunny still work at Venom haven't been there in awhile parking lot always empty.[/QUOTE]I'm new here but saw this question while I was RTFF. Sunny does indeed still work at Venom's. I saw her last night. The "Sunny" I met looks a LOT like Anna Nichole Smith (when Anna was still sexy). Got some cabana time with her and had a GREAT time. She did mention she works a lot, and usually in the evenings. Good luck and happy hunting!

I wanted to let all my friends know a raid is in the works in the near future so please be careful and play safe.

Xoxo.

Amie.

[QUOTE=JuicyAmie69;2604283]I wanted to let all my friends know a raid is in the works in the near future so please be careful and play safe.

Xoxo.

Amie.[/QUOTE]Sweetie do you know where and when? You can PM on that. I will also want to thank you for your Intel and services to this community.

Bert out.

It's ethnic day at venom today. They came from Phoenix, Chicago, and California.

[QUOTE=Bertlong;2604662]Sweetie do you know where and when? You can PM on that. I will also want to thank you for your Intel and services to this community.

Bert out.[/QUOTE]Not sure when only soon and check your pm.

[QUOTE=StripperLuv;2605184]It's ethnic day at venom today. They came from Phoenix, Chicago, and California.[/QUOTE]Ha! Yea and some of them can't count for shit. Good thing floor dances are only 10 dollars.

Met a dancer named 'Abbey' at Curves last night. She's gorgeous, sweet, and queen of the hustlers.

She plays up the 'new, innocent' girl act. Claims to only have been dancing for a few months, claims she only dances for people she's comfortable with. Says she only dances in VIP if you want more than 2 dances (should have been flag 1). Despite claiming she'd only been dancing for a few months, she seemed to know all the door guys and multiple customers on a first name basis (flag2). Claimed the dances got more "x rated" with each dance. But it didn't happen. And when I decided to call it quits, she pulled the 'ol, " I should have told you first, but even though the VIP is 20/ dance, I charge 25 to make up for fee the house takes. ".

And the cherry on top was when I asked the floor guy to verify # of dances and VIP dance price. Lo and behold, Abbey even tried to screw the club over by trying to not check in so she could try to worm out of her own fees.

Visited TD's West on Friday about 2 pm. Got dances from Samara, Haley, Nicole, and Carmen. Among those Haley was best looking but Carmen was most fun. Only got dances on the couches. My expectations were low going in but were exceeded. Will most likely return.

[QUOTE=WallyFun;2606507]Visited TD's West on Friday about 2 pm. Got dances from Samara, Haley, Nicole, and Carmen. Among those Haley was best looking but Carmen was most fun. Only got dances on the couches. My expectations were low going in but were exceeded. Will most likely return.[/QUOTE]If it's the Carmen I'm thinking of she is one of my favorites.

Wondering if there still a dancer named Morgan work there white blonde girl MILF with tattoos?? Had a few cabanas visits with her haven't been there in months? Another dancer named raven young tiny little sexy bombshell also with tattoos.

Wondering if there two dancers still at venom haven't been there in months.

1 Morgan white MILF with tattoos hot as hell had a few visits with her in the cabana.

2 I think her name is raven small Latina girl with tattoo also had a visit with her to in the cabana.

[QUOTE=RookieLujan;2608548]Wondering if there two dancers still at venom haven't been there in months.

1 Morgan white MILF with tattoos hot as hell had a few visits with her in the cabana.

2 I think her name is raven small Latina girl with tattoo also had a visit with her to in the cabana.[/QUOTE]Morgan is now dancing at Raiders under the name Rain.

Is the Morgan you are looking for, an older girl, with a LOT of tattoos?

[QUOTE=RookieLujan;2608548]Wondering if there two dancers still at venom haven't been there in months.

1 Morgan white MILF with tattoos hot as hell had a few visits with her in the cabana.

2 I think her name is raven small Latina girl with tattoo also had a visit with her to in the cabana.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tanked;2609547]Is the Morgan you are looking for, an older girl, with a LOT of tattoos?[/QUOTE]Yes I remember her saying she been there for years.

Taking a week vacation and have an abundance of time on my hands. So I decided to make a tour of the clubs in town. Most notably stopped into Venom, twice actually Afternoon visit went spectacular with a doubleheader in the cabanas. Stopped back in the evening afetr dinner with a group of friends to be told that I needed to show my I'd to get in. That has never happened in my 30 years of visiting clubs in this city. Anyone run into this recently. Additionally I was sitting at the top of the stairs, one of my favored spots, as one can see all the dancers that are checking in and coming out of the dressing rooms before they hit the floor. Due to sitting in that area I noticed that every time a dancer came out of a cabana, a doorman checked the cabana for what he termed "evidence of sex happening". Seems they are getting heat in the place for this to start happening.

Started chatting online with Belle online and she invited me to visit her at Tens for some fun in VIP. She's a asian-eyed latina with a bit of baby fat. After some back and forth on scheduling, we both agreed to today at 4 pm. I let her know I'd be early, and she was happy to hear that. I got there, let my eyes adjust to the dark, and found a seat and txtd her to let her know I was there. After about 3 dancers had rotated through the stages, Belle got on stage and danced, dressed as a school girl. We made some good eye contact, but after her dances were done, she went off behind the stage area to sit with another guy, and then went to VIP with him. Really? Screw that. I'd passed up a few lap dances while I was waiting for her already. The next gal that came over to me was Kaya. About average height, nice mass of curly hair, sweet, soft, perky large titties, and an attitude that just can't be beat. Either she is a good faker, or she was really into me. Took me up to VIP where we both had a fantastic time. Charged me for only 6 dances, but I know we were there longer than that. Got her digits, but her boyfriend checks her phone. I'd totally love some takeout from her!

[QUOTE=AzMaleSlut;2613231]Started chatting online with Belle online and she invited me to visit her at Tens for some fun in VIP. She's a asian-eyed latina with a bit of baby fat. After some back and forth on scheduling, we both agreed to today at 4 pm. I let her know I'd be early, and she was happy to hear that. I got there, let my eyes adjust to the dark, and found a seat and txtd her to let her know I was there. After about 3 dancers had rotated through the stages, Belle got on stage and danced, dressed as a school girl. We made some good eye contact, but after her dances were done, she went off behind the stage area to sit with another guy, and then went to VIP with him. Really? Screw that. I'd passed up a few lap dances while I was waiting for her already. The next gal that came over to me was Kaya. About average height, nice mass of curly hair, sweet, soft, perky large titties, and an attitude that just can't be beat. Either she is a good faker, or she was really into me. Took me up to VIP where we both had a fantastic time. Charged me for only 6 dances, but I know we were there longer than that. Got her digits, but her boyfriend checks her phone. I'd totally love some takeout from her![/QUOTE]Pm me with the dance details. And when she works.

Stopped at Curves Wednesday night to look for someone I had seen and had fun with during my last visit. She was supposed to call me about a non related hobby issue but I had not heard from her and wanted to catch her at the club again. Can't remember dancer name (starts with a D) only her real name and I can't post that. Anyway. I show up and see her across the room. Two black dancers just sit down at my table without asking. I told them I was waiting for someone to come around and instead of leaving they just sat there. I repeated myself and they said they would leave when she came around and I said she probably won't come by if other girls are with me. They asked who I was waiting for and I described her. They finally left after I ignored them long enough. I'm guessing they told the manager because he came over and said "I hear your looking for a blonde" When I started to describe her hoping he could remind me of her dancer name another girl named Pleasure interrupts our conversation to talk to me. Manager walks away. She tells me she is going to change and come back to give me dances. That manager goes home. Girl I wanted to see must have left because Tony is now manager and she won't work when he is there because according to her they got into a fight because he was trying to get a BJ from her one night and she was not willing to do it. An hour later Pleasure comes back still in street clothes and tells me she needs $20.00 for house fees so she can leave. Won't do dances for it. Just wants my money. She offers to give me her keys to hold until she comes back. I told her no and she tells me to never speak to her again and storms off. I was so pissed I was about to leave when another girl sat. I told her what happened & other manager "Tony" (who was standing behind me and heard it) said "these girls are independent contractors they do not have to be professional". The last time I saw Pleasure outside of the club she backed out of our plans saying she could not go home smelling like a guy and she kept asking me if she could take my medication home after I told her it was all I had left and my script was up. I didn't really want to see her anyway but the rudeness in that club was unreal. Left there went to Venom. Nothing worth looking at there except one hot black girl. Then I went to TD's east and found Sugar. Have not seen her in over a year but had already spent to much at other clubs to take her to VIP. She looked better than ever. Looking forward to going back.

I know a lot of you guys don't want to hear this or accept this, but it is the truth: most girls who work in strip clubs do so to feed some sort of drug addiction. These drugs they take like candy take away their abilities to think, reason, and mentally track. No, I'm not just talking about when they're high, I'm talking about their brain being permanently damaged and not working right even when they're sober.

As to the managers, yeah, they don't care. They really don't care what goes on between you and a dancer, they only care about how much you're drinking because that's where the club makes their money. Their take from the house fees is paltry, I assure you. At all the clubs I worked, the only time I ever saw any dancer punished for anything is after law enforcement became involved in a situation. That's it. The manager will always side with the dancer against you.

I know a lot of you guys (I'm not speaking to anyone in particular, so don't get all sensitive on me) worship providers as some sort of goddesses, and will just let them do whatever they want to you and keep trying to give them money. The only way to modify their behavior is threaten to take away the money, you know, that thing they need to buy the drugs with.

This cannot be emphasized often enough, especially for the younger or less initiated. No matter what they say or do, it is all only part of their business strategy. Lots of girls play the, " we should hang out some time" shit, or something to that extent. It is nothing more than a hook to keep you coming back.

[QUOTE=Uncivil;2614318]I know a lot of you guys don't want to hear this or accept this, but it is the truth: most girls who work in strip clubs do so to feed some sort of drug addiction. These drugs they take like candy take away their abilities to think, reason, and mentally track. No, I'm not just talking about when they're high, I'm talking about their brain being permanently damaged and not working right even when they're sober.

As to the managers, yeah, they don't care. They really don't care what goes on between you and a dancer, they only care about how much you're drinking because that's where the club makes their money. Their take from the house fees is paltry, I assure you. At all the clubs I worked, the only time I ever saw any dancer punished for anything is after law enforcement became involved in a situation. That's it. The manager will always side with the dancer against you.

I know a lot of you guys (I'm not speaking to anyone in particular, so don't get all sensitive on me) worship providers as some sort of goddesses, and will just let them do whatever they want to you and keep trying to give them money. The only way to modify their behavior is threaten to take away the money, you know, that thing they need to buy the drugs with.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DesertRat520;2614919]This cannot be emphasized often enough, especially for the younger or less initiated. No matter what they say or do, it is all only part of their business strategy. Lots of girls play the, " we should hang out some time" shit, or something to that extent. It is nothing more than a hook to keep you coming back.[/QUOTE]Yea everyone needs to start thinking with their actual brains. Any time you go into a club you should automatically assume that no one in that club really gives a fuck about you. Not even a little bit. They just want your money and you need to know your limits. Go in get your fix and get out. Waste your money on an escort where atleast your going to blow a load. In a club everyones going to go against you to where your just going to keep handing them money even if its lieing their asses off to get more money out of you, its like a snake pit whenever you go in there.