Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5122053]She's wants 400 to 500 probably per hour. When I balked she got all pissy saying she's a former porn star and used to get 1200 an hour or 3500 for an overnight. To which I said it's all supply and demand and right now there's plenty of supply.

So if you want a used up former pro with an attitude she's ready and willing 206-xxx-9113.[/QUOTE]If she was a porn star, she's not remotely recognizable to me. She looks more like she's an addict. Note the glassy eyes. I feel bad saying that, but some of you are probably nodding your heads to that.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5127968]Talk about being discreet. Very original.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/643e81f4-0b1e-4683-bd8f-3c0d30baba2f[/URL][/QUOTE]NO. No thanks. Not even if she paid me.

[QUOTE=CoronaLime;5134717]Does anyone know this MILF and roes she still provide?

[URL]https://www.zoig.com/play/8653311-seattle-cheating-wife-blowjob-bbbj-bareback-deepthroat-milf-bigdick-washingtonstate[/URL][/QUOTE]Sarcasticfungirl.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fa3ad252-99e7-2cfb-40d1-33160ee74867[/URL]

[QUOTE=SeaTownGuy;5134899]Sarcasticfungirl.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fa3ad252-99e7-2cfb-40d1-33160ee74867[/URL][/QUOTE]Not the youngest or the hottest, but a really nice lady who loves the cock. CIM, CIP.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5135378]Not the youngest or the hottest, but a really nice lady who loves the cock. CIM, CIP.[/QUOTE]Have a bottle of wine or two ready and hold on!

She likes to fuck!

Dessert First is Kana.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/50cee030-c4c4-42ff-be2c-ac62a13ebae4[/URL]

300 ppm vs 600 hr.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5135378]Not the youngest or the hottest, but a really nice lady who loves the cock. CIM, CIP.[/QUOTE]Not bad looking at all. Donation for 1 hour visit?

Here are some for why'all. YMMV and don't treat them as pros. Overnight or at least a few hours during the day on these ones. I might have more insight for you if you are a solid contributor. Don't bother pm-ing me if you don't share good intel to the threads. I got a few girls I am not ready to give up yet but will share if I upgrade. Happy new years everyone.

Mbaby1993 - 300 or 400 ppm?, CIP, no greek, kinda semi pro - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5b570cf6-0095-4bdd-befa-0c03108a4019[/URL].

Ellebackwoods - 300 ppm, CIP, greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3397a134-a73c-43d1-aeac-1461ec225b4f[/URL].

Krystalyn411 - 400 ppm, CIP, greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/240aee8a-c423-4f7c-9423-a9c86fcfd821[/URL].

Trynabeboujee_ - 400 ppm, CIP, no greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b8c947f2-7f8c-4bfe-b596-8df84dfdc69c[/URL].

Pnwlifer - 300 ppm, CIP, no greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3eb8572b-743e-4f3c-add9-c7a1642eacd5[/URL].

[QUOTE=FantasyManJ;5135896]Here are some for why'all. YMMV and don't treat them as pros. Overnight or at least a few hours during the day on these ones. I might have more insight for you if you are a solid contributor. Don't bother pm-ing me if you don't share good intel to the threads. I got a few girls I am not ready to give up yet but will share if I upgrade. Happy new years everyone.

Mbaby1993 - 300 or 400 ppm?, CIP, no greek, kinda semi pro - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5b570cf6-0095-4bdd-befa-0c03108a4019[/URL].

Ellebackwoods - 300 ppm, CIP, greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3397a134-a73c-43d1-aeac-1461ec225b4f[/URL].

Krystalyn411 - 400 ppm, CIP, greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/240aee8a-c423-4f7c-9423-a9c86fcfd821[/URL].

Trynabeboujee_ - 400 ppm, CIP, no greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b8c947f2-7f8c-4bfe-b596-8df84dfdc69c[/URL].

Pnwlifer - 300 ppm, CIP, no greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3eb8572b-743e-4f3c-add9-c7a1642eacd5[/URL].[/QUOTE]This is really helpful because I was looking at one of them!

When I talked to her, she let me know she was still doing hard drugs, just for me to know if I wanted bare.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5133737]It's maybe three days between messages. Sent my burner #, got a text in the middle of the night that just said hey, etc and so forth. I'd be annoyed except that I expected this so it's all good. If it happens it happens. If not, I'm talking to too many women to keep up with as it is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;5135970]When I talked to her, she let me know she was still doing hard drugs, just for me to know if I wanted bare.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Fuck. Well, I'm not hurting for SBs right now. Best to think with the big head once in a while.

[QUOTE=KashMoney;5135573]Dessert First is Kana.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/50cee030-c4c4-42ff-be2c-ac62a13ebae4[/URL]

300 ppm vs 600 hr.[/QUOTE]Looks, attitude, service most def not worth 300.

Dahlia24 x7 she is 19 and in Everett, started at 300 and then I think she blocked me, worth trying to negotiate down.

SummerDayDream.

I was going back and forth and then she stopped responding, looks good worth a try.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/c3649be0-6697-4a9f-970a-154fd3546487[/URL]

CurvyCapricorn.

She isn't really my type but was nice enough, I didn't get to the point of talking amount however from the discussion we had I think she would negotiate well.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a2b66a09-bedf-418b-ba5d-b2ad428af804[/URL]

There might be another to add but she is cute and I may want to take a run at her at least once, but at this point I am stretched thin, I may cut one loose I have been seeing for a while as the crazy and drama is getting to be too much.

Young. Sends lots of dirty messages. Probably a scam. Linked her number to a FB page that didn't look like her. Did not meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cd4a9fe0-599b-4902-b251-45c3ff0b0994[/URL]

Pro vibe. Wanted 400. Did not meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6f4ddbf0-a0c0-4444-8e65-944bfb3f528f[/URL]

Semi to full pro. Damage $400. Great body. Everything covered unless wanted to pay more. Would not repeat.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/db20d7c6-1e7c-493e-bfb3-d6ca97c7d570[/URL]

She's amazing. Started at $400 got her down to $300. BBBJ, loves giving oral, BBFS CIP open to Greek. Bi sexual and has a GF but just an all around chill fun easy going girl. She's sober, won't drink or smoke, had problems in the past. Will repeat. Only issue is in Lacy which is a little far unless making a trip out of it.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/38494dab-cca4-479d-ab75-1a4008cd8475[/URL]

[QUOTE=JpLouis1313;5136434]She's amazing. Started at $400 got her down to $300. BBBJ, loves giving oral, BBFS CIP open to Greek. Bi sexual and has a GF but just an all around chill fun easy going girl. She's sober, won't drink or smoke, had problems in the past. Will repeat. Only issue is in Lacy which is a little far unless making a trip out of it.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/38494dab-cca4-479d-ab75-1a4008cd8475[/URL][/QUOTE]She is a sweetheart, she does have a little bit of a mommy tummy and tries to cover it with lace underwear. She is a very nice person. Non judgemental and loves to just hang out and talk. I have seen her only once, and would repeat, but have a completely full rotation right now. I also like meeting new people rather than repeating, unless the lady blows my mind.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad0805da-7b1d-493f-b026-16b8dcee1b22[/URL]

"I don't want someone who's too sex driven, I want a man who is looking for a muse to adore. [B]Preferably a older alpha gentlemen who cant get it up[/B] but still craves to see and feel a female body and presence. Someone who wants to invest in me and see me shine, go on dates and show me off".

This sounds like a great sales pitch. Especially given her title.

[QUOTE=KashMoney;5136103]Looks, attitude, service most def not worth 300.[/QUOTE]Thank you, but no thanks!

[QUOTE=MartyByrde;5135647]Not bad looking at all. Donation for 1 hour visit?[/QUOTE]She is not really a clock watcher - 400 and then she will spend 2-3 hours with you. At least she did with me every time I saw her. She loves her wine. She understands that a man works hard and needs to be treated with respect when he comes home cold and tired. She is seductive and wil cross her legs and sip on wine and bat her eyes at you. Until you jump her bones and the she will take good care of you. Never a complaint with her. I really enjoyed every time I saw her. She is a little bigger than I like my women. But I was going through this big MILF stage and she fit the bill (this was approx 2 or more years ago) . BTW she sent me a pic about a year ago. Out of the blue. Probably needed dick and sent it. She has put on some weight.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5138342]She is not really a clock watcher - 400 and then she will spend 2-3 hours with you. At least she did with me every time I saw her. She loves her wine. She understands that a man works hard and needs to be treated with respect when he comes home cold and tired. She is seductive and wil cross her legs and sip on wine and bat her eyes at you. Until you jump her bones and the she will take good care of you. Never a complaint with her. I really enjoyed every time I saw her. She is a little bigger than I like my women. But I was going through this big MILF stage and she fit the bill (this was approx 2 or more years ago) . BTW she sent me a pic about a year ago. Out of the blue. Probably needed dick and sent it. She has put on some weight.[/QUOTE]Great info about a pretty MILF.

[QUOTE=SeattleCasual;5136861][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad0805da-7b1d-493f-b026-16b8dcee1b22[/URL]

"I don't want someone who's too sex driven, I want a man who is looking for a muse to adore. [B]Preferably a older alpha gentlemen who cant get it up[/B] but still craves to see and feel a female body and presence. Someone who wants to invest in me and see me shine, go on dates and show me off".

This sounds like a great sales pitch. Especially given her title.[/QUOTE]And this part:

About Me.

I am a 23 year old fitness instructor, with a perfectly fit body. I am looking for a super rich daddy who wants to take me on dates, and invest in my bikini modeling. I want my hair, nails, eyelashes, shopping and breast implants paid for. I have blue hair right now, if you don't like it, you just have to pay for my next hair salon appointment.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5134150]Peachy Sub.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f879121-3017-483d-b463-2f3e37e7202a[/URL]

She contacted me out of the blue with once a month for $1 k ppm, My eventual reply- "ROFL, not even if you were hot. " I'm not normally a dick to them but she tried to argue with me about how the math works out.

Waiting for a block in 3,2,1.[/QUOTE]So 500 ppm would have been a hell of a deal for me right. I told her 200 and she blocked me.

I'm sometimes a fan of the big posts of SBs, rates, and experiences, since it let's me know who to avoid. One of the reasons I prefer SBs to pros is the low mileage, non-jaded behavior, and fewer dicks per day. But can you not give away all the goods? I was in contact with a few of them and after that post, all communication died. With all of them. Their inboxes exploded and then they could pick and choose the most desperate findom simps reading these posts. Mongers who are even subscribed to this site can just roll through and fuck up the work being put in on these chicks.

I'm all for posting non-pros who get around. Those women are on the cusp of pro anyway. Hell, I'm probably sharing some of the same freaky babes with some of you. But come on, guys. Let's be more discreet than giving away prime women.

[QUOTE=JpLouis1313;5136434]
Semi to full pro. Damage $400. Great body. Everything covered unless wanted to pay more. Would not repeat.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/db20d7c6-1e7c-493e-bfb3-d6ca97c7d570[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Same offer for me, bb +100. Seems a little too pro. Pics are hot, but attitude goes a long way. Filled one up last night for free who just gets off having dudes cum in her pussy and mouth.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5139472]Same offer for me, bb +100. Seems a little too pro. Pics are hot, but attitude goes a long way. Filled one up last night for free who just gets off having dudes cum in her pussy and mouth.[/QUOTE]She is a pro for sure I got the same.

[QUOTE=CoffeeTurd;5139239]I'm sometimes a fan of the big posts of SBs, rates, and experiences, since it let's me know who to avoid. One of the reasons I prefer SBs to pros is the low mileage, non-jaded behavior, and fewer dicks per day. But can you not give away all the goods? I was in contact with a few of them and after that post, all communication died. With all of them. Their inboxes exploded and then they could pick and choose the most desperate findom simps reading these posts. Mongers who are even subscribed to this site can just roll through and fuck up the work being put in on these chicks.

I'm all for posting non-pros who get around. Those women are on the cusp of pro anyway. Hell, I'm probably sharing some of the same freaky babes with some of you. But come on, guys. Let's be more discreet than giving away prime women.[/QUOTE]I could not agree more. / Bump.

[QUOTE=CoffeeTurd;5139239]I'm sometimes a fan of the big posts of SBs, rates, and experiences, since it let's me know who to avoid. One of the reasons I prefer SBs to pros is the low mileage, non-jaded behavior, and fewer dicks per day. But can you not give away all the goods? I was in contact with a few of them and after that post, all communication died. With all of them. Their inboxes exploded and then they could pick and choose the most desperate findom simps reading these posts. Mongers who are even subscribed to this site can just roll through and fuck up the work being put in on these chicks.

I'm all for posting non-pros who get around. Those women are on the cusp of pro anyway. Hell, I'm probably sharing some of the same freaky babes with some of you. But come on, guys. Let's be more discreet than giving away prime women.[/QUOTE]My bad, it was just my gift back to the community. I guess I won't share info on my surplus publicly anymore. Maybe I'll just pm you the next batch. There's a handful that I am almost ready to let go.

I encourage everyone to do their own work and maybe we can trade info. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for us to seize the reset expectations on allowances due to covid.

What does "ppm".

Mean?

This crazy b thinks someone is going to trust her with 900 bucks up front.

Waste of time.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6af33a35-ca39-476e-bfcb-914d8b697d23[/URL]

Amandatanda.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5140226]This crazy b thinks someone is going to trust her with 900 bucks up front.

Waste of time.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6af33a35-ca39-476e-bfcb-914d8b697d23[/URL]

Amandatanda.[/QUOTE]Is SA membership worth the money? I mean SA is less likely to find a good fish.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5140226]This crazy b thinks someone is going to trust her with 900 bucks up front.

Waste of time.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6af33a35-ca39-476e-bfcb-914d8b697d23[/URL]

Amandatanda.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, there's a sucker born every minute 😂.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5140226]This crazy b thinks someone is going to trust her with 900 bucks up front.

Waste of time.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6af33a35-ca39-476e-bfcb-914d8b697d23[/URL]

Amandatanda.[/QUOTE]Yeah she is living in her own bubble. I just block them and move on. Right now there is a huge supply of babies trying to make ends meet. I do not waste any of my time or money on ladies with GPS. Once the economy is back. It may make sense to invest time into training her that although her "P" seems like is it golden. It really only is gold plated. .

[QUOTE=Dxddxd;5140347]Is SA membership worth the money? I mean SA is less likely to find a good fish.[/QUOTE]Depends on your cash flow, your looks, your negotiation skills.

1. You can find girls between $250 to $400 but you got to go through a lot of emails and DO NOT be direct. They may say they want to be direct but don't be fully direct if you say something the wrong way they can report you and you will be blocked from the site and not get a refund.

2. These are not Escorts (well a few are) so if you're horribly out of shape, Drug addict etc your chances of you finding a hot girl won't be as high as others and while Money will improve your chances it will cost you more and you are not guaranteed to succeed.

3. You need to negotiate and some of these girls will come down from $500 to say $300 but you have to keep the ball in your court. YOU have the money and this is the only place where Money Pussy in terms of power. Theres plenty of supply of Pussy so keep this in mind do NOT give these girls thousands of dollars for nothing or "online only".

[QUOTE=CoffeeTurd;5139239].
I'm all for posting non-pros who get around. Those women are on the cusp of pro anyway. Hell, I'm probably sharing some of the same freaky babes with some of you. But come on, guys. Let's be more discreet than giving away prime women.[/QUOTE]That's why I don't post anything but warnings about Pros, scams, GPS, etc. Advisories about paying too much for too little, and other posts that are intended to inform people about what to watch out for, and what value for thier money they could get if they wern't total pussies.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Posting things like "Hey, I just fucked this one for 200, go fill her up boys!" ensures that some knucklehed simp will hit her with a line like "so and so said you will do this for this amount. " Which, as we should all know by now, is not a good line to drop.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;5140887]Depends on your cash flow, your looks, your negotiation skills.

1. You can find girls between $250 to $400 but you got to go through a lot of emails and DO NOT be direct. They may say they want to be direct but don't be fully direct if you say something the wrong way they can report you and you will be blocked from the site and not get a refund.

2. These are not Escorts (well a few are) so if you're horribly out of shape, Drug addict etc your chances of you finding a hot girl won't be as high as others and while Money will improve your chances it will cost you more and you are not guaranteed to succeed.

3. You need to negotiate and some of these girls will come down from $500 to say $300 but you have to keep the ball in your court. YOU have the money and this is the only place where Money Pussy in terms of power. Theres plenty of supply of Pussy so keep this in mind do NOT give these girls thousands of dollars for nothing or "online only".[/QUOTE]1. You can also find girls for a lot less, you just have to look, I have not given one over 200 so far. There are many that will try and get a large amount a month and they are just looking for easy money.

2. There are a lot more than you think, I would say about a 25-35 percent of those I have contacted have said "you can meet me at this hotel" or "I need 200 for an hour", often those are ones that have a profile up for a week or two then it goes black. Then there are the ones that are looking for an actual arrangement and then you have a few that are on SA looking for a connection with someone due to something lacking in their personal lives.

3. yep if someone says "let's do online for now" I will say sure but I am not paying any money, when you are ready to meet in person we can go from there.

[QUOTE=FantasyManJ;5135896]Here are some for why'all. YMMV and don't treat them as pros. Overnight or at least a few hours during the day on these ones. I might have more insight for you if you are a solid contributor. Don't bother pm-ing me if you don't share good intel to the threads. I got a few girls I am not ready to give up yet but will share if I upgrade. Happy new years everyone.

Mbaby1993 - 300 or 400 ppm?, CIP, no greek, kinda semi pro - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5b570cf6-0095-4bdd-befa-0c03108a4019[/URL].

Ellebackwoods - 300 ppm, CIP, greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3397a134-a73c-43d1-aeac-1461ec225b4f[/URL].

Krystalyn411 - 400 ppm, CIP, greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/240aee8a-c423-4f7c-9423-a9c86fcfd821[/URL].

Trynabeboujee_ - 400 ppm, CIP, no greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b8c947f2-7f8c-4bfe-b596-8df84dfdc69c[/URL].

Pnwlifer - 300 ppm, CIP, no greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3eb8572b-743e-4f3c-add9-c7a1642eacd5[/URL].[/QUOTE]I think we're of at least two schools of thought on detailed posts like yours. I, for one, am grateful for the detailed information! Thank you.

For any of us who are considering venturing into the "non-pro" universe--and let's be realistic: if I think I'm the [I]only one[/I] she's engaging with, I'm likely mistaken--the specifics in a post like yours are very useful and helpful.

AND I agree wholeheartedly with the observations and cautions issued by others. My mileage might vary. PPM prices can change. Whatever I do, I know [B]not to divulge information from this board.[/B].

Again, thanks.

Is there a way to tell apart a deactivated account vs a suspended account on SA?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad0805da-7b1d-493f-b026-16b8dcee1b22[/URL]

"Preferably a older alpha gentlemen who can't get it up" <-- LOL! I had to post it. I can't stop laughing. Hahah.

[QUOTE=SeattleCasual;5136861][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad0805da-7b1d-493f-b026-16b8dcee1b22[/URL]

"I don't want someone who's too sex driven, I want a man who is looking for a muse to adore. [B]Preferably a older alpha gentlemen who cant get it up[/B] but still craves to see and feel a female body and presence. Someone who wants to invest in me and see me shine, go on dates and show me off".

This sounds like a great sales pitch. Especially given her title.[/QUOTE]OMG! Someone else found the same one hilarious and posted it earlier! Sorry for a double post! LOL!

[QUOTE=Avn11;5141429]Is there a way to tell apart a deactivated account vs a suspended account on SA?[/QUOTE]Yes, create a second account but don't pay premium and you can still search and see if they were suspended, deactivated, or just blocked you. I am not really sure how you can tell the difference between suspended or deactivated, if they blocked you then they will show up in the search on your unpaid account.

[QUOTE=Avn11;5141429]Is there a way to tell apart a deactivated account vs a suspended account on SA?[/QUOTE]Sometimes the account will still have the persons name and sometimes it just says Sugarbaby. My thinking is if you are blocked it keeps the name and if they deactivated it just says Sugarbaby. I could be wrong it's just a guess.