"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Below is a report I posted on the Louisville board. One or two other guys are using this too with some success. So I thought I would share the sotory on this board and offer us some options for wasting the scammers time. Hope you enjoy!

Coolcold scammer.

Text for a bit. Setup a meet. Ohh wait. Can you please send money so I can get someone to watch my mom while we meet. Blahh. Blahh. Sure babe. Is $300 enough. Oh yeah that should take care of it. Ok. Ill get that to you. Ahahhahaahha. Have you sent it yet. Oh yeah. What you have not gotten it. Nooo /. Well here is the tracking (fake number). They say that is not a tracking numer. Hello. You there. Hello. Ahahhahahha. They went to walmart and wasted their time. I love this!

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...4-5588b213d8c2[/URL]

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3390893]I also like submissive women. Some straight out express an interest in being submissive, dominant men, bdsm or ddlg. Other clues are saying they are shy and want to be taught or expressing an interest a confident man who likes to be in control. I've also found a high percentage of women that wear chokers in their pics are also submissive.

I say I am naturally dominant in my profile and I get women ask about that when they message me. LOL.

I'm curious what others have noticed.[/QUOTE]I just came across another term. Alpha male. I pretty much figure someone looking for that is submissive.

One other point though. I had my current SB, a 30 YO smart foreign fitness model, tell me at the M&G she was very, very submissive. We've been together a month w / several FC trips, and while I do a lot of verbal stuff and have been sometimes aggressive (tossed her around the bed a little, pulled on her hair at times), I haven't really thought of her as all that far out of the norm. Anyone else find these girls say they are submissive but it's only in their minds?

[QUOTE=LikeMike1963;3391683]Below is a report I posted on the Louisville board. One or two other guys are using this too with some success. So I thought I would share the sotory on this board and offer us some options for wasting the scammers time. Hope you enjoy!

Coolcold scammer.

Text for a bit. Setup a meet. Ohh wait. Can you please send money so I can get someone to watch my mom while we meet. Blahh. Blahh. Sure babe. Is $300 enough. Oh yeah that should take care of it. Ok. Ill get that to you. Ahahhahaahha. Have you sent it yet. Oh yeah. What you have not gotten it. Nooo /. Well here is the tracking (fake number). They say that is not a tracking numer. Hello. You there. Hello. Ahahhahahha. They went to walmart and wasted their time. I love this!

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...4-5588b213d8c2[/URL][/QUOTE]So, why is this only wasting their time? How about yours? It is also against the site terms of service to solicit $ for sex or offer commercial services, so you can just report her.

So, why is this only wasting their time? How about yours? It is also against the site terms of service to solicit $ for sex or offer commercial services, so you can just report her. So, why is this only wasting their time? How about yours? It is also against the site terms of service to solicit $ for sex or offer commercial services, so you can just report her.

I do report them. I have yet to see SA take one down for being reported. At least that I can tell. And in the beginning it is wasting my time. But when I turn the tables I am not wasting my time. I am having a level of entertainment by wasting theirs!

Quote Originally Posted by LikeMike1963.

Below is a report I posted on the Louisville board. One or two other guys are using this too with some success. So I thought I would share the sotory on this board and offer us some options for wasting the scammers time. Hope you enjoy!

Coolcold scammer.

Text for a bit. Setup a meet. Ohh wait. Can you please send money so I can get someone to watch my mom while we meet. Blahh. Blahh. Sure babe. Is $300 enough. Oh yeah that should take care of it. Ok. Ill get that to you. Ahahhahaahha. Have you sent it yet. Oh yeah. What you have not gotten it. Nooo /. Well here is the tracking (fake number). They say that is not a tracking numer. Hello. You there. Hello. Ahahhahahha. They went to walmart and wasted their time. I love this!

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3391734]I just came across another term. Alpha male. I pretty much figure someone looking for that is submissive.
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It could mean that, and I'm sure it does in many cases, however I have met some women that were the highly independent types that say they want an alpha male, just because they want to be sure they don't meet a man that's less independent than they are. I used to encounter women saying that in their profile a lot in on line civvy dating, and in those cases it wasn't necessarily a sexual request as much as an attempt to weed out the wallflowers, insecure / indecisive guys, or the ones looking for a "mama".

Most of us here in the bowl probably have a hard time imagining what goes through the mind of a guy afflicted with the "mommy kink". I've never heard an SB tell me she met one, but countless strippers tell me about guys that request that kind of role playing behavior in the couch rooms. I try not to judge but it seems weird to me, and I have to think it's rooted in mama issues, same as most SBs have daddy issues. The strippers seem to think its creepy too, but they enjoy telling me the stories and laughing about it. I bet escorts encounter that a lot too.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3391737]So, why is this only wasting their time? How about yours? It is also against the site terms of service to solicit $ for sex or offer commercial services, so you can just report her.[/QUOTE]I see you guys are still beating a dead horse. There are plenty of escorts on the site and plenty of mongers that look for that. Again the only way to get them off the site is ignore them. If they get no business then they delete their profile. But guess what, that doesn't happen cause that's what most guys are looking for. Check any of the sb threads that actually review. Most are providing the sa and BP or whatever forum they advertising in link. So the solicitation is here to stay. Oh and its just natural that a brand new girl is going to ask "what's in it for me". Not one guy here would go do a job for a day without asking what they were getting. The come work for me and ill give you what I think your worth wouldn't fly with me either LOL. Time wasters are on both sides so jyst a fact of life. To the people who aren't happy with Sa don't pay the membership fee and go back to your previous methods. The term sb means something different to everyone and sadly alot consider sex workers a sb so don't blame the girls LOL.

This has to some extent been reported on, I believe by BikeRider or F Scott. There is a website / app called hotelsbyday that enables one to book a room, typically between 10 am and 4 pm, at a good rate. When first reported on this board, the main problem was the limited # of hotels that participated. I had a M&G scheduled this morning, and for some reason I just felt that there was potential to take it right to the FC, so I looked at the website, and indeed there was one hotel in my town on the site, and they had their basic room at $90 + tax. I put the app on my phone and off I went. The M&G was everything I hoped, a mid-20's hot blond professional athlete. After the usual flirting and small talk and get down to business talk, we retired to my car for more negotiation / testing. Responding to a request for a kiss, I knew she was a real SB. Discussion moved to 'when' and she said 'we could just get a room'. I agreed and went on the app.

It was clunky in that nothing could be prefilled. You can't set up an account in advance w / all your info and method of payment, at least as I have been able to discern. It took me about 10 minutes on my just OK smartphone to enter everything, and I needed to be careful to protect it from her. I enter a close misspelling of my real name so that I can use my real DL and reloadable prepaid debit card. Unfortunately, it also has my real name, but I have no alternative, since I also have to show my DL at check in. I chose the $10 cheaper room that charged my card immediately, but I had no question the baby was going to be there. The app sent me an email with a confirmation # and instructions just to show the email at checkin. Unfortunately, they swiped the card again as a deposit against 'incidentals', and of course that's going to take several days to be refunded to the card. I need to use it again for FC tomorrow night, so I'll have to put more $ on it. When I checked out, there was no paper receipt, and I haven't seen an email receipt other than the original one.

The good. A reasonable price for a top-notch hotel room. The bad. There is still a risk b / c it involves our IRL identity.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3392076]I see you guys are still beating a dead horse. There are plenty of escorts on the site and plenty of mongers that look for that. Again the only way to get them off the site is ignore them. If they get no business then they delete their profile. But guess what, that doesn't happen cause that's what most guys are looking for. Check any of the sb threads that actually review. Most are providing the sa and BP or whatever forum they advertising in link. So the solicitation is here to stay. Oh and its just natural that a brand new girl is going to ask "what's in it for me". Not one guy here would go do a job for a day without asking what they were getting. The come work for me and ill give you what I think your worth wouldn't fly with me either LOL. Time wasters are on both sides so jyst a fact of life. To the people who aren't happy with Sa don't pay the membership fee and go back to your previous methods. The term sb means something different to everyone and sadly alot consider sex workers a sb so don't blame the girls LOL.[/QUOTE]As are you; if you believe that all human behavior is pre-ordained, indeed there is no point in educating anyone about anything. Some people don't see the connection between reviewing SBs like they review streetwalkers and a threats to the sugar world. It is worth posting here if the number of people who operate that way goes down, even a little.

Just wondering if anyone has the same issues I'm having or maybe it's just me. I've sent messages to a few however they are not premier level so they can't read or respond to my message. This seis me to limit us that pay the monthly payment to who we can contact. Reallly am looking for a young petite Asian and thought I'd found the right match but can't seem to contact her. Just a rant here. Very frustrating.

[QUOTE=Titleist2323;3393221]Just wondering if anyone has the same issues I'm having or maybe it's just me. I've sent messages to a few however they are not premier level so they can't read or respond to my message. This seis me to limit us that pay the monthly payment to who we can contact. Reallly am looking for a young petite Asian and thought I'd found the right match but can't seem to contact her. Just a rant here. Very frustrating.[/QUOTE]There may be technical glitches. I've experienced some recently, though not that one. Sometimes the favorite button doesn't show up, it has been slow, etc. If I were you I would be sure to clear my cache, restart the browser, reboot the computer, etc.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3391734]I just came across another term. Alpha male. I pretty much figure someone looking for that is submissive.

One other point though. I had my current SB, a 30 YO smart foreign fitness model, tell me at the M&G she was very, very submissive. We've been together a month w / several FC trips, and while I do a lot of verbal stuff and have been sometimes aggressive (tossed her around the bed a little, pulled on her hair at times), I haven't really thought of her as all that far out of the norm. Anyone else find these girls say they are submissive but it's only in their minds?[/QUOTE]Have you shown up with rope, handcuffs, blindfolds etc? The personal trainer I was seeing talked about submissive sex, but the first few dates were just regular sex. Then, to see if she meant it I blindfolded her when she met me once and shrink wrapped her to a desk top and went after her with a feather and a vibrator for about half an hour. She went nuts. She just sent me a text about coming back to town and asking if I still had my blindfold. After I did that to her she mentioned that she found that guys would just do what she asked them to do when it came to domination so she didn't like to talk about it. She was waiting to see if I would just do it.

I know this has been posted before but I can't remember what page, could someone explain how you guys use pre paid cards anonymously to pay for memberships? Appreciate any info.

[QUOTE=ThatMDguy;3393753]I know this has been posted before but I can't remember what page, could someone explain how you guys use pre paid cards anonymously to pay for memberships? Appreciate any info.[/QUOTE]I'd like to extend this request to all the regular brothers, even if you have posted your prepaid credit anonymity plan details before. If possible, I would like to add a new index post to the FAQ and Highlights thread that contains several posts on this subject. Since there is no way to edit / update individual posts within the index for any length of time after they've been posted, the only reasonable way to do this is for me to make note of individual post number references, and add them after I have a reasonably complete collection of links to posts.

I'm going to create a second post with the official "information gathering" request in a more simplified "survey" format. I'm also going to try to add another frequently recurring topic regarding daytime hotel / FC solutions to the same post. Unfortunately, I don't use anonymous cards or need daytime FC, so I can't contribute directly to the answers here, this is for the benefit of the recurring brothers that ask these questions.

This is to add a new entry to the Highlights / FAQ Index Thread. If these questions apply to you, please take a moment to respond, and feel free to add more information to either question you believe would benefit the FAQ. Even better if you can label your answers according to the numbering below, as it adds value to the indexing post by keeping the posts that they link to in a reasonably consistent format.

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(#1) Prepaid credit cards and handling anonymous website memberships (if applicable to you):

A. Where do you buy yours? (Specific store, card label etc)?

B. How much balance do you typically load onto it?

C. What is the process you use to retain privacy / anonymity?

D. Does it require you to tie the card to a phone, and if so do you use a burner phone?

E. Any other helpful tips or things to be aware of you can add?

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(#2) Daytime Hotel Room solutions or alternative (if applicable to you):

A. If you have an SB you need to take to the FC in the morning or early afternoon, how do you go about it, particularly given the limitation that hotel check-ins are typically late afternoon?

B. Any other helpful tips or creative solutions, aside from a hotel or car date?

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3394311]This is to add a new entry to the Highlights / FAQ Index Thread. If these questions apply to you, please take a moment to respond, and feel free to add more information to either question you believe would benefit the FAQ. Even better if you can label your answers according to the numbering below, as it adds value to the indexing post by keeping the posts that they link to in a reasonably consistent format.

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(#1) Prepaid credit cards and handling anonymous website memberships (if applicable to you):

A. Where do you buy yours? (Specific store, card label etc)?

B. How much balance do you typically load onto it?

C. What is the process you use to retain privacy / anonymity?

D. Does it require you to tie the card to a phone, and if so do you use a burner phone?

E. Any other helpful tips or things to be aware of you can add?

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(#2) Daytime Hotel Room solutions or alternative (if applicable to you):

A. If you have an SB you need to take to the FC in the morning or early afternoon, how do you go about it, particularly given the limitation that hotel check-ins are typically late afternoon?

B. Any other helpful tips or creative solutions, aside from a hotel or car date?[/QUOTE]Does my post just below on this page - #13903 - do the job for #2?