Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=BobbyYoung;5195947]I recently visited much talked about Jesse ans she mentioned candle light apa on s. Tryon.

She told they offer FS and usually has a mix of white, spaNish etc.

Anyone been ro this place? If yes an you give more reviews on it?[/QUOTE]This is the WORST spa in Charlotte. The girls there are all "infected" with GPS (golden p*ssy syndrome). Some of the girls want as much as $600 or $700 for FS, but may come down to $400 or $500 after the first or second time. I also know for a fact that the owner has bugged the rooms for sound and listens to the negotiations for upgrades. If you talk to any of the girls about meeting outside of the spa, the owner will hear that an ban you. I do not know she has any cameras, but being wired for sound is bad enough. They have a few attractive girls, but they will $200 tip for topless HE and $300 tip for nude HE.

The last time I was there I was pulled over by a LEO while driving north on Tryon after my session. He took my license and it appeared to be a normal traffic stop (even though I was not speeding). After spending a few minutes in his vehicle. He re-approached my car and started asking me all kinds of questions like: what did you do in the spa? Why did you go there? Does your wife (xxnamexx) know you go there? Did you engage in any sexual acts? Where do the girls keep the condoms? Etc. He said they know what goes on in there and demanded that I tell him what I did there or he would haul my ass down to jail. But I simply told the officer that I like to talk to the girls and give them $50 tips for listening to my problems and then pretty much kept my mouth shut. Sounds to me like they are gathering information and evidence for some reason (like a future bust? I would AVOID.

[QUOTE=JohnMarigold;5196072]This is the WORST spa in Charlotte. The girls there are all "infected" with GPS (golden p*ssy syndrome).[/QUOTE]I haven't been, but from the looks of their ads and website it would seem it's mostly mid 30's and up girls with mediocre looks? I know sometimes mongers characterize a girl as "GPS" if she's charging 3-400 but if it's hot 20 year olds sometimes that's justified. From what I've seen on their ads it looks like normal STG hags so I never went.

[QUOTE=JohnMarigold;5196072]Sounds to me like they are gathering information and evidence for some reason (like a future bust? I would AVOID.[/QUOTE]One of the more curious things about massage parlors is that everyone knows what happens there. It's not like a secret, and it's not like LEO just doesn't notice one sitting in a strip mall or at the back of an office complex for years. The cops, politicians, and city officials are all well aware of these places. It's just allowed to happen because they know it's going to happen regardless and they'd rather it be centralized in like a parlor in a shitty strip mall than happen on the street or whatever. It's genuinely less risk. It's a basic aspect of the social contract that most cities have.

That said, Candlelight is living on borrowed time. Part of this unspoken contract between spas and LEO is that the spas stay in places where you'd expect a spa to be. Off independence, tucked off in some industrial / office park, etc. Basically they're in the lower class parts of town on purpose. And Candlelight is in the middle of fucking southend. 5 years ago Remount was still "up and coming" but it's not anymore, that whole part of town is being built out significantly so it would stand to reason that LEO is going to drive this place out sooner rather than later. If the owner knows what's good for them they just start looking for a new location now. Given that cops are stopping you and asking those sorts of questions it's going to be only a matter of time before they do a raid. Knowing where the condoms are is a key piece of evidence, lots of stuff can be slighted off as circumstantial but rubbers show intent for legal purposes.

BTW, if a cop ever does that just play like you're an idiot. "I just came in for a massage, the girl asked if I wanted anything extra but I'm not sure what she was referring to, this place is cheaper than massage envy". Remember, the cops aren't really here to bust johns, or even really to bust these massage girls. If they wanted to it would be trivially easy to do so. They're just here to make sure this activity stays outside of the public eye and that it doesn't lead to other crimes. That's really it.

I stopped by Apple again around the same time as the review of Maya. Sadly my experience was with Anna. Not terrible but not worth the price either. I like the relative security and cleanliness of AMPs but the hit or miss quality can be a bummer.

[QUOTE=Corvette704;5187826]Apple is a nice hidden gem.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousGeor;5196344]I haven't been, but from the looks of their ads and website it would seem it's mostly mid 30's and up girls with mediocre looks? I know sometimes mongers characterize a girl as "GPS" if she's charging 3-400 but if it's hot 20 year olds sometimes that's justified. From what I've seen on their ads it looks like normal STG hags so I never went.

One of the more curious things about massage parlors is that everyone knows what happens there. It's not like a secret, and it's not like LEO just doesn't notice one sitting in a strip mall or at the back of an office complex for years. The cops, politicians, and city officials are all well aware of these places. It's just allowed to happen because they know it's going to happen regardless and they'd rather it be centralized in like a parlor in a shitty strip mall than happen on the street or whatever. It's genuinely less risk. It's a basic aspect of the social contract that most cities have.

That said, Candlelight is living on borrowed time. Part of this unspoken contract between spas and LEO is that the spas stay in places where you'd expect a spa to be. Off independence, tucked off in some industrial / office park, etc. Basically they're in the lower class parts of town on purpose. And Candlelight is in the middle of fucking southend. 5 years ago Remount was still "up and coming" but it's not anymore, that whole part of town is being built out significantly so it would stand to reason that LEO is going to drive this place out sooner rather than later. If the owner knows what's good for them they just start looking for a new location now. Given that cops are stopping you and asking those sorts of questions it's going to be only a matter of time before they do a raid. Knowing where the condoms are is a key piece of evidence, lots of stuff can be slighted off as circumstantial but rubbers show intent for legal purposes.

BTW, if a cop ever does that just play like you're an idiot. "I just came in for a massage, the girl asked if I wanted anything extra but I'm not sure what she was referring to, this place is cheaper than massage envy". Remember, the cops aren't really here to bust johns, or even really to bust these massage girls. If they wanted to it would be trivially easy to do so. They're just here to make sure this activity stays outside of the public eye and that it doesn't lead to other crimes. That's really it.[/QUOTE]Very much agreed. When LEO must do something it's not hard to do. First they check dumpsters, if they find dna type evidence. Then use it procure a search warrant. What LEO finds may not amount to a crime, but it's enough to spook off the business. Also agree that politicians don't want to take away too many freedoms- even those like spas. But since no crime is eminating from spas into the neighborhoods or streets, it's not an issue. You get the occasional evangelical sheriff whose afraid someone else is having fun, but it's hard to elected in the Charlotte area with those negatives.

Stopped in for a visit. No TS offered. No massage, just a little teasing. She wanted to get straight to business.

Given name: Sunny. Looked to be early 30's with nice spinner body.

Took off the mask for CBJ, then back on for cowgirl. She had a pretty good technique where she sits on top and hooks her feet on top of your thighs. Finished in mish.

2 more mongers came in shortly after me and she said they were very busy and only 2 girls working.

Girl was very attractive, but service was the most rushed I have ever experienced.

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=JohnMarigold;5196072]This is the WORST spa in Charlotte. The girls there are all "infected" with GPS (golden p*ssy syndrome). Some of the girls want as much as $600 or $700 for FS, but may come down to $400 or $500 after the first or second time. I also know for a fact that the owner has bugged the rooms for sound and listens to the negotiations for upgrades. If you talk to any of the girls about meeting outside of the spa, the owner will hear that an ban you. I do not know she has any cameras, but being wired for sound is bad enough. They have a few attractive girls, but they will $200 tip for topless HE and $300 tip for nude HE.

The last time I was there I was pulled over by a LEO while driving north on Tryon after my session. He took my license and it appeared to be a normal traffic stop (even though I was not speeding). After spending a few minutes in his vehicle. He re-approached my car and started asking me all kinds of questions like: what did you do in the spa? Why did you go there? Does your wife (xxnamexx) know you go there? Did you engage in any sexual acts? Where do the girls keep the condoms? Etc. He said they know what goes on in there and demanded that I tell him what I did there or he would haul my ass down to jail. But I simply told the officer that I like to talk to the girls and give them $50 tips for listening to my problems and then pretty much kept my mouth shut. Sounds to me like they are gathering information and evidence for some reason (like a future bust? I would AVOID.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like that place will get a visit soon.

LM.

[QUOTE=HamBiscuit;5197159]Stopped in for a visit. No TS offered. No massage, just a little teasing. She wanted to get straight to business.

Given name: Sunny. Looked to be early 30's with nice spinner body.

Took off the mask for CBJ, then back on for cowgirl. She had a pretty good technique where she sits on top and hooks her feet on top of your thighs. Finished in mish.

2 more mongers came in shortly after me and she said they were very busy and only 2 girls working.

Girl was very attractive, but service was the most rushed I have ever experienced.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]I visited a couple months ago and had the same experience. I never felt so rushed. I was told to come back again when they're not busy, but if I have one poor experience I'll never go back. It's like the saying, " fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me," LOL. Seems like others really like it there though, so maybe just major YMMV depending on time and day.

[QUOTE=HamBiscuit;5197159]Stopped in for a visit. No TS offered. No massage, just a little teasing. She wanted to get straight to business.

Given name: Sunny. Looked to be early 30's with nice spinner body.

Took off the mask for CBJ, then back on for cowgirl. She had a pretty good technique where she sits on top and hooks her feet on top of your thighs. Finished in mish.

2 more mongers came in shortly after me and she said they were very busy and only 2 girls working.

Girl was very attractive, but service was the most rushed I have ever experienced.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]One will rush you through your hour at times. Don't go on the weekend.

[QUOTE=Pete4444;5198418]One will rush you through your hour at times. Don't go on the weekend.[/QUOTE]You don't pay for an hour, you pay for 45 minutes. Gives the girl more time to clean up. 45 minutes is the usual in the top places in Orlando.

"BTW, if a cop ever does that just play like you're an idiot. "I just came in for a massage, the girl asked if I wanted anything extra but I'm not sure what she was referring to, this place is cheaper than massage envy".

Not trying to start an argument, but this is the very last thing to say to a cop. If you said this, he could go and get a search warrant based on your statement and naming you in the warrant. Not sure about NC, but most warrants eventually become public records and subject to FOIA requests. Only response to their questions should be is "lawyer".

[QUOTE=HunterB;5198905]"BTW, if a cop ever does that just play like you're an idiot. "I just came in for a massage, the girl asked if I wanted anything extra but I'm not sure what she was referring to, this place is cheaper than massage envy".

Not trying to start an argument, but this is the very last thing to say to a cop. If you said this, he could go and get a search warrant based on your statement and naming you in the warrant. Not sure about NC, but most warrants eventually become public records and subject to FOIA requests. Only response to their questions should be is "lawyer".[/QUOTE]I was pulled over in Columbia a few years back at a well known spa. 2 cars approached at gas station where I had already stopped. First words were "you're not in any trouble". I asked what it's about. The lead LEO said you were at x spa. Yes, that's true. Did you have any sexual services? I said "no I didn't know they offered that". He laughed and got serious. I answered that it was a licensed business to offer massages and that's all I received. Showed him my script for migraine meds, and was told thanks and on my way. As I pulled away blazin that phat Blount, I almost had a laugh at the whole incident. Have fun my friends life is too complicated these days.

[QUOTE=HunterB;5198905]"BTW, if a cop ever does that just play like you're an idiot. "I just came in for a massage, the girl asked if I wanted anything extra but I'm not sure what she was referring to, this place is cheaper than massage envy".

Not trying to start an argument, but this is the very last thing to say to a cop. If you said this, he could go and get a search warrant based on your statement and naming you in the warrant. Not sure about NC, but most warrants eventually become public records and subject to FOIA requests. Only response to their questions should be is "lawyer".[/QUOTE]Then don't start an argument with armchair law advice LOL. Playing stupid protects you, saying you just got a massage is a blatant lie. "she asked if I wanted anything else but I don't know what that means" is in no way grounds for a warrant, even from the most aggressive of judges. Anything else could be a bottle of water. A warrant requires clear suspicion of a crime.

The reason why some of why'all get busted is because why'all don't understand the law and role of LEO, and as such you start throwing out blatant lies when you don't need to. Playing naive is always better than lying with cops.

Anyway, if a cop wanted a warrant for a massage parlor it would be trivially easy to build up enough evidence to get one. Literally just go in there in plain clothes, document what you see, get warrant. I don't mean to be rude but some of the absolute worst legal advice and conversation happens on this board. Lots of people are giving out advice that would actively make your life worse.

Cop approaches the drivers window, "I'm officer, Willie Wilt, I stopped you because of. (tail lite out, changing lanes without a signal, but must state the reason for the stop. If he does not say what the stop was about you can set the tone with, "Name and badge number and why did you stop me?" Or, "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" If the cop asks where did you come from, repeat, "Am I free to go. " or "I don't answer questions, without my attorney. " Make sure your statement is said it a quiet calm voice, don't offend the cop, but let the officer know that you know your rights. It is not a crime to be observed leaving a AMP so don't continue the conversation.

In that same vein, be extra couscous driving away. Complete stops an all stop signs, count one, two three. Use the turn signal at least fifty yards before mergining. You got the idea, time to use the head above the heart not below.

COI.

It's unnecessary to even say anything like she offered me extras, but I didn't know what she meant. Just leave out the whole she offered me extras. I would in no type of way incriminate myself or throw someone else under the bus. They can't do anything unless you give them something to go off of. By all means don't act scared. Keep your story simple and straight to the point the entire time. Don't switch it up and don't add anything.

[QUOTE=CuriousGeor;5199326]Then don't start an argument with armchair law advice LOL. Playing stupid protects you, saying you just got a massage is a blatant lie. "she asked if I wanted anything else but I don't know what that means" is in no way grounds for a warrant, even from the most aggressive of judges. Anything else could be a bottle of water. A warrant requires clear suspicion of a crime.

The reason why some of why'all get busted is because why'all don't understand the law and role of LEO, and as such you start throwing out blatant lies when you don't need to. Playing naive is always better than lying with cops.

Anyway, if a cop wanted a warrant for a massage parlor it would be trivially easy to build up enough evidence to get one. Literally just go in there in plain clothes, document what you see, get warrant. I don't mean to be rude but some of the absolute worst legal advice and conversation happens on this board. Lots of people are giving out advice that would actively make your life worse.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=KingEpqng;5199436]It's unnecessary to even say anything like she offered me extras, but I didn't know what she meant. Just leave out the whole she offered me extras. I would in no type of way incriminate myself or throw someone else under the bus. They can't do anything unless you give them something to go off of. By all means don't act scared. Keep your story simple and straight to the point the entire time. Don't switch it up and don't add anything.[/QUOTE]Honestly, any cop pulling you over after you leave a parlor is just fucking with you for fun. If they want info on a massage parlor, they will send in an undercover or CI. It's that simple. If they question you, just say I got a massage. Nothing more, nothing less.