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[QUOTE=SenecaCuck;7186152]I agree with Gator the level of service at VM and Sunlight are above PT and the top should reflect that.[/QUOTE]I was a PT regular until I visited VM a few months ago, it's way more fun at VM, never been back to PT since I tipped the same at both places, going to try sunlight.
I echo everything everyone has said about Kelly. She is leaving Sunday not to return until August. I wish they were all like her.
Table shower, lfk, tuma, B2 B, P2 P, BBBJ, flirt, mouthwash.
More BBBJ, DATY, DATO, more tuma, standing mish on the corner, more mouthwash.
I took in two covers, only used one. I just don't have the stamina I did 10 years ago. As I was leaving she handed me back the spare and said "Next time USE this! She's a riot. I left at 45 minutes but that was me bugging out. When she comes back in the fall she made me promise to see her again.
She works out at the gym, has a rock hard body except for those massive, oh so soft, perfect natural titties.
[QUOTE=Gator1961;7186004]Went to Sunlight to visit Kelly after all the positive reviews that I read on the Forum. First let me clarify the requested tip. . . The requested tip for an hour at sunlight is $$ and the house gets. 8 for a total of $$. 8. Sorry guys but I just paid it and I will tell you why. The services at Sunlight (and VM) are different and in addition to what you get at other AMPs in the area. More specifically you don't get a BBBJ at the other mainstays in the area. Not only that but my visit with Kelly was PSE and you don't get that at the other AMPs in the area either. I was fairly well informed when I went to Sunlight, so I pretty much knew what I was getting and I did not go there to negotiate and possibly piss off the provider and have my visit suffer as a result. I went there to have a fun time and I was willing to pay for it. Enough said, I will get off the soap box.
Concerning my visit with Kelly, I have to say it was an amazing experience. All of the other reviews were spot on and all I can say is that she was worth evrey penny of the extra. 4 requested. I highy recommend that if you have not seen her that you pay her a visit before she leaves on the 9th.
I will still go to PT, which is my establishment of choice, but I will continue to read the forum to find the providers like Kelly. Thanks to all who contribute to the forum.
Gator.[/QUOTE]Interestingly, Kelly didn't have me pay until the end of the session, maybe because it was a repeat visit? I left $$ . 5 as those were the only bills I had.
Too many people over tipping. I suspect some of these over-tippers are just fake posters working for the Massage Parlors. (*Over-tipping eventually just raises prices for everyone).
The ONLY Valid reason to over tip is 1) You are Fat 2) You are Ugly 3) You are really old. In these cases the girls deserve a bit more.
I have been in the hobby for 3 years and am just over 60 yo and I have NEVER Paid over $160 for FS for an hour, And NO Complaints from the girls. They will 50% of the time try to get a bit more. But this is for the sucker and I have NEVER gotten "Lesser Service" because of my tip. Even when they offer a second girl for $100 - I can usually get them to take $80 and sometimes as low as $60.
Over-paying creates entitlement and GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) - NOT better service!
These are my thoughts and experiences.
Monger on! .
[QUOTE=SenecaCuck;7186152]I agree with Gator the level of service at VM and Sunlight are above PT and the top should reflect that.[/QUOTE]
I have been in this game on and off over 3 decades and watch them all come and go. Heck I even used to bang Cindy at her Final Touch when she was a hottie! These girls are all about their money and yes they will act and want more but that's the game. I have gone up to a buck fifty but only if the reviews are stellar. But then I play the I got $60-$100 game and then get them to bite on that forever after.
Guess what they will give you the same cat for the low down and do the same thing. So I learned that they would rather make something than nothing for sitting around all day. They still have bills and the girls know if they don't do it the next girl will. Then they lose a regular guy and the other girl is going home with change for the day and she's got nothing. Then when your a real time regular it actually gets cheap and even invites to her place and you can enjoy it like a boyfriend would and that is the goal for me. I spend less and get it without issues and I have even had dinner a movie and some real life fun and banged her brains out in the shower and her bedroom for $60 each time. But they want $150-$200 in the shops.
So the idea is don't let these girls beat you at their game when the client always holds the cards. Don't let the pretty face and sexy body and bullshit hustling mindset take your hard earned change out of your wallet. You run the show and what will dictate what she is going to get. I always say your skill set will determine how far this goes and they know exactly what I mean.
For the ones that don't think it works try it and then have a few beers and wings with the money you save! All you have to do is follow a few of the girls on Facebook and you can see they are all whining they are broke and we suck and we don't spend enough and etc. So why be that guy to think your dishing out more than everyone else and get the same pot to spew in! Save your money!
FunGuy2022 Too many people over tipping. I suspect some of these over-tippers are just fake posters working for the Massage Parlors. (*Over-tipping eventually just raises prices for everyone).
The ONLY Valid reason to over tip is 1) You are Fat 2) You are Ugly 3) You are really old. In these cases the girls deserve a bit more.
I have been in the hobby for 3 years and am just over 60 yo and I have NEVER Paid over $160 for FS for an hour, And NO Complaints from the girls. They will 50% of the time try to get a bit more. But this is for the sucker and I have NEVER gotten "Lesser Service" because of my tip. Even when they offer a second girl for $100 - I can usually get them to take $80 and sometimes as low as $60.
Over-paying creates entitlement and GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) - NOT better service!
These are my thoughts and experiences.
Monger on!
[QUOTE=SmackThatAss;7187771]I have been in this game on and off over 3 decades and watch them all come and go. Heck I even used to bang Cindy at her Final Touch when she was a hottie! These girls are all about their money and yes they will act and want more but that's the game. I have gone up to a buck fifty but only if the reviews are stellar. But then I play the I got $60-$100 game and then get them to bite on that forever after.
Guess what they will give you the same cat for the low down and do the same thing. So I learned that they would rather make something than nothing for sitting around all day. They still have bills and the girls know if they don't do it the next girl will. Then they lose a regular guy and the other girl is going home with change for the day and she's got nothing. Then when your a real time regular it actually gets cheap and even invites to her place and you can enjoy it like a boyfriend would and that is the goal for me. I spend less and get it without issues and I have even had dinner a movie and some real life fun and banged her brains out in the shower and her bedroom for $60 each time. But they want $150-$200 in the shops.
So the idea is don't let these girls beat you at their game when the client always holds the cards. Don't let the pretty face and sexy body and bullshit hustling mindset take your hard earned change out of your wallet. You run the show and what will dictate what she is going to get. I always say your skill set will determine how far this goes and they know exactly what I mean.[/QUOTE]The Chinese MP girls use Wechat. Have gotten a few of theirs, but nothing outside the shop. Mainly, just to know which spots they're at. Got one girl that wants me to visit her in CA LOL, pussy wasn't that good.
Would also agree on the tips. $$ hh and $$ . 4 hr has always been fine, no lack of proper service. Always BBBJ and sensual. Sometimes I'll tip. 2 at the end for stellar service. At the end of the day, everybody's going to pay what they want. Just know, you do Not have to pay anything above $$ or $$ . 4, you'll get the same service either way. The attempts at upcharging are just attempts to squeeze every last drop of $ you have. But if you think they deserve it, that's your choice.
They look at us and put us in 2 groups. The lonely or the horny. LOL.
Hit up Sunlight along 4th st to go check out Kelly, but shieet. Seems she been having her hands full. Good thing though that the mamasan was looking out for me. Offered up this other asian lass. Short, bubbly, and plump in the perfect areas. Coco yanked my clothes off after she got close and intimate with me. She knew how to move it and she didn't have some boring flat asian body. Nice big D boobs and got them child bearing hips to grab hold of. Sexxy, thicc, and real fun. Had some awkward moments trying to communicate with her, but she was quick on tailoring everything on my body and reactions. Definitely worked hard on worshiping my body. Pretty sure she broke a sweat. Did get to do some hot sloppy 69 and got to give credit to the way she was riding me on top (covered). Coco kept on giving a light and sensual head massage at the end.
But yeah, place seemed hella busy. Heard the door bell at some moments towards the end. No doubt I'd see Coco again. They did tell me that on like the 9th, some other new chick will take Kelly's place or some shit.
[QUOTE=HappyXxx;7180938][QUOTE=Gator1961;7180726]So what exactly is the tip at Sunlight for the hour and half hour? When I went tip was $$ for the hour and. 8 for the house, from what I've read on the board, it looks like tip is $. 4 for the half hour and house gets. 6 . . . Is that correct?
Looks like some mongers are claiming that they are only giving 1. 6 for a tip. Given how adamant the Mamasan was with me, I find that highly unlikely.
Can someone confirm for me please.
Thanks in advance.
Gator.[/QUOTE]It's usually 200 all in for half hour and 240 all in for the hour.[/QUOTE]I also am wondering about the "accepted" Half Hour rate at Sunlight. The exchange above would appear to solidly answer that point, however, since that exchange there's been a rousing debate about hourly tipping of $160 vs $200 (after paying the $80 Hourly House Fee).
Had the consensus been that the GPS girls at Sunlight readily accept $160 tip for an hour, then the assumption of a half hour total rate of $200 would seem valid ($60 House + $140 tip = $200 total). [b]HOWEVER[/b] it would appear a lot of guys are being heavily pressured to tip $200, and are paying it. If [u]THAT[/u] is the case, what are those guys paying for a half hour? I assume the House Fee is the standard $60, but in some cases girls expect the same tip rate regardless of the time duration - which might mean a half hour ends up being $60 + $200 ($260 total) or maybe they "discount" to a tip of $180 or $160?? I hate going into any AMP without knowing exactly what amount is expected (and/or accepted), so I'm hoping some of you guys have done the half hour and can report reliably on an actual experience.
BTW... the reason I'm most curious about the half hour rate goes back to the consensus a while back on Vinca. A lot of guys were reporting paying for an hour and being rushed, so much so that paying for half hour session made more sense, and was widely recommended. I followed that recommendation at Vinca and it proved to be sage advice, although I suffered through a lame experience with what appears to be the absolute worst provider in their rotation. C'est la vie, or maybe C'est la Coït! Anyway, is there a similar consensus on Sunlight? Are they SO busy that guys get rushed out and a half hour session would make more sense??
[QUOTE=JeMonger;7188980]Nancy is actually Linda at VM. No big deal but figured worth mentioning. OK mongers, do your thing![/QUOTE]Nancy is apparently working at Eastern in Sarasota now.
VM all in is 220. There's no way sunlight is less. The 200 "all in rate" was a marketing idea from the "Korean Hottie Mafia".
[QUOTE=DrWilly;7190527]BTW... the reason I'm most curious about the half hour rate goes back to the consensus a while back on Vinca. A lot of guys were reporting paying for an hour and being rushed, so much so that paying for half hour session made more sense, and was widely recommended.[/QUOTE]VM and sunlight are the only O-town type game in the 3 surrounding counties. They are both saturated but VM traffic has slowed down with mongers flooding sunlight. Sunlight is getting some top level o-town girls as well (Mina, Kelly) so their popularity will continue. With VM slowing down and 3 girls in rotation the 30 min point may be moot. I'm not sure you can nail down a de facto rate with such fluctuation shifts in foot traffic, competing spas a few miles apart along with mongers caving or simply trying to gain favor. Its not like O-town, the land of plenty where they are conditioned to accept standard rates. 2 cents.
Yeah, ya snooze ya lose. Kelly no longer at Sunlight. Was a good run though.
Well good thing the mamasan keeps things moving forward. Informed me about the new girl Eva. I was down to give her a go.
Girl next door looks and a small frame. Naturally cute. Nothing caked on. Hour glass curves. Was fun to chat with as well.
Great hand skills and head movement. All gas and no breaks. Just kept going and going. No newbie mistakes like teeth scratching things up. And yeah grade A Asian ass. Wanted to bite that shit so hard. Took her from behind to get the best view and gave it to her doggy. Good stamina from her. She took the wheel and pounded forward and back. Got all sweaty.
I'd say Eva was a worthy replacement to Kelly. Coco still there and was also great the last time I had her.
[QUOTE=OcLovesSpas;7191274]Yeah, ya snooze ya lose. Kelly no longer at Sunlight. Was a good run though.
Well good thing the mamasan keeps things moving forward. Informed me about the new girl Eva. I was down to give her a go.
Girl next door looks and a small frame. Naturally cute. Nothing caked on. Hour glass curves. Was fun to chat with as well.
Great hand skills and head movement. All gas and no breaks. Just kept going and going. No newbie mistakes like teeth scratching things up. And yeah grade A Asian ass. Wanted to bite that shit so hard. Took her from behind to get the best view and gave it to her doggy. Good stamina from her. She took the wheel and pounded forward and back. Got all sweaty.
I'd say Eva was a worthy replacement to Kelly. Coco still there and was also great the last time I had her.[/QUOTE]Would you or anyone else happen to have more detail on looks for the current lineup at sunlight and / or VM? Rough age? Breast size? Estimate of height and weight? Extra bonus: Services offered abbreviations? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=TremontTeddy;7190728]VM all in is 220. There's no way sunlight is less. The 200 "all in rate" was a marketing idea from the "Korean Hottie Mafia".[/QUOTE]I haven't tried VM however at sunlight I pay 200 hh and 240 h just like I do in Orlando and. With hh rate I always get my full time, with the hour I always get at least 45 miin-1 hour depending on how busy they are, still a great deal. Sometimes I pay the 240 hour and it's me that has to bounce after 45 minutes min.