"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3355634]Am I the only one that site won't load for?[/QUOTE][URL]http://predatorsalerts.com[/URL]

I typed it wrong, here is a link. When I searched my number about a week ago it this was first on search now down to page 2 .

[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3356024][URL]http://predatorsalerts.com[/URL]

I typed it wrong, here is a link. When I searched my number about a week ago it this was first on search now down to page 2 .[/QUOTE]That works. I'm just surprised it hasn't been reported as a revenge porn site and shut down yet.

Too many of those dudes are setting themselves up for trouble by sending dick pics. I assume most of these are gathered from the Craigslist and Tinder crowd rather than SA. Maybe I'm wrong, but if those are from SA, those guys should read this thread. I could have told them that no matter how strongly your opinion of yourself, nudes or dick pics might work on UTR sluts or for casual hookups, but they will repel most of the quality SBs, because it just portrays the SD as a run-of-the-mill perv. It's better to play the true dating angle where some things are left to their imagination. Most women do not find dick pics sexy, so if they respond positively to that they are probably escorts looking for a quick buck. Plus, it makes it more likely that the pics will end up on a site like the above.

JZL is probably right. Most of the pics were collected from sites like CL than SA. Also, clearly the revenue stream for PredatorAlerts is to sham the 'predators' and have them pay up to remove the 'dick' pics and other personally identifiable information. Another reason to maintain as much discretion possible while playing in the bowl.

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3356238]That works. I'm just surprised it hasn't been reported as a revenge porn site and shut down yet.

Too many of those dudes are setting themselves up for trouble by sending dick pics. I assume most of these are gathered from the Craigslist and Tinder crowd rather than SA. Maybe I'm wrong, but if those are from SA, those guys should read this thread. I could have told them that no matter how strongly your opinion of yourself, nudes or dick pics might work on UTR sluts or for casual hookups, but they will repel most of the quality SBs, because it just portrays the SD as a run-of-the-mill perv. It's better to play the true dating angle where some things are left to their imagination. Most women do not find dick pics sexy, so if they respond positively to that they are probably escorts looking for a quick buck. Plus, it makes it more likely that the pics will end up on a site like the above.[/QUOTE]

My info was from SA. Only place I used the pic that was posted. Whoever posted my info didn't get too far with me, as some 'real' SBs got real pics of me at some point.

I don't see where they are charging to remove the info. The exposing Johns website did that a few years ago and I think that's what got them in trouble and taken down. This new site is hiding behind the posts being from 'anonymous' posters.

My number isn't showing up on google searches now. They were down for a few weeks and I wonder if they had gotten in some type of trouble.

[QUOTE=Lebruno;3356487]JZL is probably right. Most of the pics were collected from sites like CL than SA. Also, clearly the revenue stream for PredatorAlerts is to sham the 'predators' and have them pay up to remove the 'dick' pics and other personally identifiable information. Another reason to maintain as much discretion possible while playing in the bowl.[/QUOTE]

I had some success w / a RB a while back, and now a couple of times we've exchanged texts. I'd love to do her again. I don't have a good excuse to get back to her city, even though its just a 1 hour flight. Has anyone had luck getting a RB to come to your territory, and if so what were the logistics?

One of the 18 yo babies that I've been texting with told me this morning that SA is requiring the babies to upload a pic of their photo ID to be accepted to the site. Looks like Brandon Wade is reacting to the BP shut down and the heightened human trafficking awareness.

Travelin.

So quick qn, how do you handle the usual few hours meet and agreed upon allowance vs. Overnight allowance negotiation. Usual meets were agreed for a set amount for few hours. Now, discussion is turned to potential overnight. SB want to almost double the allowance which was agreed for per meet. Do you all have different amounts, depending on the length of meet or hours?

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3363017]One of the 18 yo babies that I've been texting with told me this morning that SA is requiring the babies to upload a pic of their photo ID to be accepted to the site. Looks like Brandon Wade is reacting to the BP shut down and the heightened human trafficking awareness.

Travelin.[/QUOTE]I think we'll see far far less 18 year olds on the site now. No way the smart ones will upload an I'd.

Maybe they'll list as 19 year olds!

[QUOTE=GeorgeRichmond;3363087]So quick qn, how do you handle the usual few hours meet and agreed upon allowance vs. Overnight allowance negotiation. Usual meets were agreed for a set amount for few hours. Now, discussion is turned to potential overnight. SB want to almost double the allowance which was agreed for per meet. Do you all have different amounts, depending on the length of meet or hours?[/QUOTE]Not the voice of experience here, w / a SO I can't really do overnights , but generally, I think you are playing the babies' game the more detail you get into regarding what you will pay for what she will do. Of course it's good to have some idea, but if all that is going on is $ and sex, you've got yourself an escort there, mister, not a SB. Just read the voluminous postings of JZlizard to learn all you'd ever need to know about this.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;3363121]I think we'll see far far less 18 year olds on the site now. No way the smart ones will upload an I'd.

Maybe they'll list as 19 year olds![/QUOTE]True, BR. My practice is to ask everyone listing as a teen if they can prove their age w / an "ID", and ideally they would be able to send a selfie w / their DL (thumb over the name if they want, but showing the photo and the birth date). This is essential to save your own ass. In some jurisdictions, having any discussion with someone not of legal age, online, concerning any sexual activity could be a crime.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3363148]Not the voice of experience here, w / a SO I can't really do overnights , but generally, I think you are playing the babies' game the more detail you get into regarding what you will pay for what she will do. Of course it's good to have some idea, but if all that is going on is $ and sex, you've got yourself an escort there, mister, not a SB. Just read the voluminous postings of JZlizard to learn all you'd ever need to know about this.[/QUOTE]I know I am dealing with an experienced SB. But only one that I have been seeing so far. I have enough details like FB, personal name, and others where I know who she is. Only thing. Is because of ITR nature. There is now time based bargain which was not happening. May be I should avoid this overnight. Which I never did it before. Wanted to experience it.

[QUOTE=GeorgeRichmond;3363087]So quick qn, how do you handle the usual few hours meet and agreed upon allowance vs. Overnight allowance negotiation. Usual meets were agreed for a set amount for few hours. Now, discussion is turned to potential overnight. SB want to almost double the allowance which was agreed for per meet. Do you all have different amounts, depending on the length of meet or hours?[/QUOTE]You have to have the discussion up front, otherwise the SB will upsell. Depending on what your number is for a meet, I would expect to pay a little more. If you are giving her the usual USAG rental rate of $- 5 then she deserves 50% to a double for her time. As always, game applies. I have had no problem getting ONs for $250 all day long, but the SB has to like being with you. Also it helps to offer a nice night out-dinner and drinks, then back to the hotel. Also many are not into being a sex doll for you to poke whenever your dick gets hard. It is the rare young girl who has the hots for banging us old men all night long.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3363001]I had some success w / a RB a while back, and now a couple of times we've exchanged texts. I'd love to do her again. I don't have a good excuse to get back to her city, even though its just a 1 hour flight. Has anyone had luck getting a RB to come to your territory, and if so what were the logistics?[/QUOTE]Pay their expenses depending on how far away to and from plus a room for however long they are staying. Or just ask her for flat rate which expect them to include those cost.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3363148]Not the voice of experience here, w / a SO I can't really do overnights , but generally, I think you are playing the babies' game the more detail you get into regarding what you will pay for what she will do. Of course it's good to have some idea, but if all that is going on is $ and sex, you've got yourself an escort there, mister, not a SB. Just read the voluminous postings of JZlizard to learn all you'd ever need to know about this.[/QUOTE]It takes a dedicated SD to get through my voluminous posts. LOL.

I'm probably not the right guy to comment on typical overnight arrangements. In my case, depending on circumstances, many (most even) of my SB dates do result in what could be considered an overnighter. There's a "date" portion of the evening that normally consists of dinner and drinks, maybe a club, then late night back at the FC. There is usually some sleeping for both of us before she goes home (usually daylight at the earliest). However, that it ends up like this is a result of the dating process itself and the fact that I only do this when I travel. It's similar to my civy dating experiences, after drinks they don't really want to risk driving home, and after some good fuck sessions it's natural to want to kick back and nap. This is my preferred type of date because I have a habit of waking up from a nap horny, and there's nothing like having a new hottie laying next to you when that happens.

Some guys meet girls for coffee then get a hotel in the afternoon -- I've thought about expanding to that territory but just haven't. I guess I'm used to the convenience of already being in a room, versus the hassle of finding / booking one. That, plus the fact I don't play close to home.

So, I've never negotiated an overnight SB or tried to pre-arrange it. I have been known to gift higher than my standard gift amt for a great SB that stays all night and does so simply because she's having fun --particularly if they went out of their way to meet me, drove long distances, took a day off school or work, etc. But it's not an amount that's agreed upon ahead of time.

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3363017]One of the 18 yo babies that I've been texting with told me this morning that SA is requiring the babies to upload a pic of their photo ID to be accepted to the site. Looks like Brandon Wade is reacting to the BP shut down and the heightened human trafficking awareness.
[/QUOTE]It's a good thing if it saves the site and the lifestyle, but it's a bad thing in the sense it will scare some girls away and result in less to choose from. Would've been better if we could just separate the bowl from escorting. Oh well. At least it will reduce fake accounts of people just trolling for pics of dudes for the predators site and all that.