Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Stormyoneonly;2141483]I had a wonderful time with you and would love to spend a night with you! I loved rolling around underneath the covers! Very sweet man and you deserve great respect! I can't wait to see you again and again. I am sorry you went through this and hope you don't ever get that experience again! I have never done an overnight but would love to try one time! Have a spectacular holiday weekend!

Stormy.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Stormy! Next chance I get to overnight, I know who I'm calling. Good to know that being a gentleman is appreciated by some. Xoxoxo.

[QUOTE=NKYGentleman;2141660]I know that it was you. So you had assume that she was a new provider posting a review on her self? And you would do it again? Do you know what happens when you ASSUME? It makes an ASS out of you and ME. You are a SR with almost 500 post and I'm sure that you have seen your share of BS on these boards. Let me share some wisdom with you that life has taught me. Things aren't always what they seem to be. This so happens to be the case. You are a so called "trusted SR" and should have waited to see how things panned out. But you jumped the gun on this one and it ends up not being what you thought. We all have to start some where and make our first review. I choose this lady. Even you had to start some where. I have been told by some providers that some so called " trusted SR's" aren't so trust worthy. And just because us regular guys are not SR's yet don't mean that we are not trust worthy.

I read some more things about the saga between Remmy and mdolby. I just want to share that there are 3 sides every story. His side, her side and there's the truth.[/QUOTE]

Yes. I would do it again, without any regret. Again, and again, and again. Because frankly, the feelings of one newbie does not concern me as much as the safe mongering experience of the rest of the board. THAT is my priority.

So you got called out and had to prove you're legit. So f-ing what? We all had to prove our legitimacy one way or another. Do you think the first time I posted everyone went, "Oh my God! There's DNut. We can trust him. His word is gold. "? No. I had to build credibility. That's why I mentioned it's so important when established providers say, "Thank you. " to a newbie's review. I could care less about the newbie's review. But I do care that the established provider "legitimized" the newb by verifying that he is a monger.

I told you when I pointed out that a newbie reviewing another newbie raises a red flag, that that the weight of a review is only as much as the history of the reviewer. I stand by that.

[QUOTE=DNut;2141826]Yes. I would do it again, without any regret. Again, and again, and again. Because frankly, the feelings of one newbie does not concern me as much as the safe mongering experience of the rest of the board. THAT is my priority.

So you got called out and had to prove you're legit. So f-ing what? We all had to prove our legitimacy one way or another. Do you think the first time I posted everyone went, "Oh my God! There's DNut. We can trust him. His word is gold. "? No. I had to build credibility. That's why I mentioned it's so important when established providers say, "Thank you. " to a newbie's review. I could care less about the newbie's review. But I do care that the established provider "legitimized" the newb by verifying that he is a monger.

I told you when I pointed out that a newbie reviewing another newbie raises a red flag, that that the weight of a review is only as much as the history of the reviewer. I stand by that.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Note this is in blue, not black.

I'm not sure what event you to are fighting about but I have something to say about this in general.

It is way, way, [b]WAY[/b] past fucking time for this "calling out" of noobs to end.

Do you pay for the ads to try and get new traffic to this forum? I think not.

Do you pay for the servers to run this forum? I don't think so on that one either.

What you are here is a guest, yes a guest. A guest we value and hope keeps coming to our parties but guests don't start fights with other guests in the living room.

This shit with new people is going to stop. I suggest you stop it now because this came to my attention here in the Octagon I'm not going to review your last 50 posts and then put you on moderation for the inevitable 20 argumentative posts I'm going to find.

I don't care what you went through when you started, what I'm telling you is that shit is fucking over. I will gladly trade 10 senior members for the 200 new guys they run off with that shit. Because eventually I will get rid of all the seniors that do it, and the 150 new guys that stay will become seniors someday and they won't be dicks to the new guys after them.

It's not your forum and if Jax wanted a rule like "new guys get shit on until we are out of shit" he would have written one, he didn't. What he did write was two separate rules, numbers 2, and 3 right there at the very top that say don't do shit like this.

I'm using D Nut's post for this PSA but this goes to anybody here. You don't have to help new guys, you don't have to spoon feed them. You're more than welcomed to ignore them if you wish, but what you can't do until you own this place is keep running them off.

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=D Nut;2141826]Yes. I would do it again, without any regret. Again, and again, and again. Because frankly, the feelings of one newbie does not concern me as much as the safe mongering experience of the rest of the board. THAT is my priority.

So you got called out and had to prove you're legit. So f-ing what? We all had to prove our legitimacy one way or another. Do you think the first time I posted everyone went, "Oh my God! There's DNut. We can trust him. His word is gold. "? No. I had to build credibility. That's why I mentioned it's so important when established providers say, "Thank you. " to a newbie's review. I could care less about the newbie's review. But I do care that the established provider "legitimized" the newb by verifying that he is a monger.

I told you when I pointed out that a newbie reviewing another newbie raises a red flag, that that the weight of a review is only as much as the history of the reviewer. I stand by that.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that this board has a protocol about having to prove your self to anyone on here. This forum is about providing intel on a provider whether she is a new or seasoned and legit. A feedback if you will for TOFTT. This was not a feeling kind of thing. As I have stated before, this was my first post and I choose this provider who happens to be a newbie too. I respect that you was concern about whether she was legit or not. I have reviewed well established providers and never got a Thank you. So that theory goes out the window. Yes, you told me that a newbie reviewing a newbie over and over is a red flag. So you jumped the gun from the get go and assumed. Now that I'm legit (not that I had to prove myself) and have some reviews under my belt, I am pointing out that you was wrong in your judgement. Just remember not everything is what you think it is.

So it is your priority to be god like and to watch over the rest of the mongers on here? I do believe we are all adults and can manage our affairs on this board. But with the spirit of brotherhood among mongers, we share intel for safety as well as not getting ripped off all the while enjoying different providers in this hobby. You the Nut, are taking this way to serious. It's ok to be concern, but your over the top.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2141743]The new site is open, [URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/[/URL] guys you don't have to register to view.[/QUOTE]A2, is there a rule against posting rates on the new site? I see only one of 6 included them in her ad.

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;2142113]A2, is there a rule against posting rates on the new site? I see only one of 6 included them in her ad.[/QUOTE]Rates for time is fine so long as no sexual acts are described.

[QUOTE=Cowboy66;2142066]Why would a high end escort ask you to help her with money to pay for a room for and ask you to use pay pal or green dot sounds like a ripoff job to me and if you can't afford the room then maybe you shouldn't use a high end hotel I don't think it's right of a escort to ask a client to pay half the room when she is going to work all weekend and see more then just that client and is it normal for a escort to text a client on a daily basis several times a day is she trying to keep that client from seeing other escorts that's my rant.[/QUOTE]Is there still a high end provider even advertising on this board? I though A2 got rid of her? Anyway, the one high end provider I have seen did accept half her donation up front via green dot. Had she not come highly recommended by a provider I already knew, in this case Molly Daniels, I would have been suspicious that the green dot pre-payment was a scam. But taking into account the cost of the room she booked and her base fee for appointments, the pre-payment was basically insurance that she wasn't going to lose money if there was a last minute cancellation or if some guy was just jerking her around with no real intention of ever seeing her. I'm sure what I gave her via green dot went towards paying for the room, but I don't think she had several more appointments after seeing me, simply because there just are not that many hobbyists in this market who are going to donate several hundred bucks when they see a last minute ad posted by a high end escort, so the cost of the room probably did not get defrayed over the course of multiple appointments. As for the question about endless texts, I've. Noticed that it is becoming more common. The providers who are doing it tell me it is because they have had so many cancellations that they are nervous that if they don't keep following up with somebody, their date will be a no show.

Good info about a green dot scam at the Cleveland Backpage board:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8701-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2128860&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2128860.


Post #3544

[B]I never though I would have to post this, but based upon several recent experiences many providers have no clue about the interaction of OILs and LATEX.

LADIES[/B] you CANNOT use LATEX condoms when you also use most OILs. This included:

-Baby Oil,

-Grape Seed Oil.

-Wesson Oil.

-Motor Oil.

-Petroleum Jelly I. E. Vaseline products.

-Hand lotions,

These "massage oils" break down the latex in condoms and often cause them to break, usually when a guy is entering or giving a good hard thrust. (unless of course you are looking for a "sneaky" BBFS session without the guilt. Also called a Surprise Creampie. ".

Use WATER BASED massage oils and lubricants or use NON-LATEX Condoms. Both are easy to get at CVS, Walmart etc in the section where you buy other family planning stuff.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2141870][BLUE]Note this is in blue, not black.

I'm not sure what event you to are fighting about but I have something to say about this in general.

It is way, way, [b]WAY[/b] past fucking time for this "calling out" of noobs to end.

Do you pay for the ads to try and get new traffic to this forum? I think not.

Do you pay for the servers to run this forum? I don't think so on that one either.

What you are here is a guest, yes a guest. A guest we value and hope keeps coming to our parties but guests don't start fights with other guests in the living room.

This shit with new people is going to stop. I suggest you stop it now because this came to my attention here in the Octagon I'm not going to review your last 50 posts and then put you on moderation for the inevitable 20 argumentative posts I'm going to find.

I don't care what you went through when you started, what I'm telling you is that shit is fucking over. I will gladly trade 10 senior members for the 200 new guys they run off with that shit. Because eventually I will get rid of all the seniors that do it, and the 150 new guys that stay will become seniors someday and they won't be dicks to the new guys after them.

It's not your forum and if Jax wanted a rule like "new guys get shit on until we are out of shit" he would have written one, he didn't. What he did write was two separate rules, numbers 2, and 3 right there at the very top that say don't do shit like this.

I'm using D Nut's post for this PSA but this goes to anybody here. You don't have to help new guys, you don't have to spoon feed them. You're more than welcomed to ignore them if you wish, but what you can't do until you own this place is keep running them off.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]I don't think its necessary to run new guys through the gauntlet, and of course Jackson's rules rule, but I would like to point out something that no one mentioned in this fracas. That one thing is that when a new guy reviews an established provider, and the provider responds to his review confirming that the new guy was a client, we then have significant confirmation that the new guy isn't a LE plant. I completely understand Admin's being pissed off about new guys getting ragged, but I (especially up here in Cleveland) would feel a lot more comfortable making a referral to a new guy if I knew he had seen a provider we can verify through the board as being real. With all due respect.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;2142330]I don't think its necessary to run new guys through the gauntlet, and of course Jackson's rules rule, but I would like to point out something that no one mentioned in this fracas. That one thing is that when a new guy reviews an established provider, and the provider responds to his review confirming that the new guy was a client, we then have significant confirmation that the new guy isn't a LE plant. I completely understand Admin's being pissed off about new guys getting ragged, but I (especially up here in Cleveland) would feel a lot more comfortable making a referral to a new guy if I knew he had seen a provider we can verify through the board as being real. With all due respect.

Cheech.[/QUOTE][BLUE]There is a million miles between "Hey this guy with two posts said XXXX, I smell bacon." EVERY FUCKING TIME somebody new shows up and not giving a referral to somebody you don't know. I'm not saying you gotta help them, I'm not saying you gotta spoon feed them, I ignore guys all the time down here on my account. All I'm saying is I'm gonna stop guys from making the forum so uncomfortable that new guys don't want to get involved.

A2[/BLUE]

It's a natural thing, this giving the new guys shit. Hell, for me at least, it started in the junior high boy's locker room. And continues to some extent to this day (no longer in the junior high boy's locker room, though. LOL.).

Yeah, it takes time for the senior members to trust and, as it's been said many times, hitting 6 months and X number posts ain't it.

But the deal is not only do we trust the intel but is this guy LEO? What's interesting is this affects providers as much as mongers. And, although some do respond to reviews and, in doing so, acknowledge the monger's legitimacy, many providers don't. Such responses would go a long way to verifying a monger is who he says he is, letting both mongers and providers know he is at least not LEO.

The rest will still take time.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2142394][BLUE]There is a million miles between "Hey this guy with two posts said XXXX, I smell bacon." EVERY FUCKING TIME somebody new shows up and not giving a referral to somebody you don't know. I'm not saying you gotta help them, I'm not saying you gotta spoon feed them, I ignore guys all the time down here on my account. All I'm saying is I'm gonna stop guys from making the forum so uncomfortable that new guys don't want to get involved.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Whenever I see a "somebody" trying to make a new guy uncomfortable I assume the "somebody" is a hobby-by-computer guy and doesn't really see escorts. Otherwise the "somebody" wouldn't be in such a bad mood.

[QUOTE=JLZ61;2142516] And, although some (providers) do respond to reviews and, in doing so, acknowledge the monger's legitimacy, many providers don't. Such responses would go a long way to verifying a monger is who he says he is, letting both mongers and providers know he is at least not LEO.[/QUOTE]True, unless they are both compromised.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2141870][BLUE]
This shit with new people is going to stop. I suggest you stop it now because this came to my attention here in the Octagon I'm not going to review your last 50 posts and then put you on moderation for the inevitable 20 argumentative posts I'm going to find.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]I hear what you're saying, and in my defence, here is the post that made me think he wasn't legit.

[QUOTE=NKYGentleman;1966711]... I walked in the room and met a very classy, genuine, woman who's intelligent, very attractive and accommodating to my requests and needs. I would love to have this woman to my self. Of all the providers and some of ladies that I have personally seen. This one I would take home to meet my mother. [/QUOTE]It was a first time post / review of a provider that was obviously using fake pictures of Elizabeth Shue. First time poster, glowing review of a new provider using fake pictures. How is that not a red flag that other mongers need to be made aware of? Even without the review, the ad alone is a clear cut bait-and-switch situation, unless of course, Elizabeth Shue was providing escort services in Cincinnati.

But you are right. This is not my board and I am a guest. If you say no more calling out of newbies, so be it.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;2142605]True, unless they are both compromised.[/QUOTE]But the chance of both being compromised is less than of just one.

Nonetheless, I do wish more providers would respond to reviews, whether positive or negative. I think that the majority of those that do are the more senior and serious of the providers. Many of the shorter term providers don't even have access to a computer. They're probably looking for immediate cash and not really looking to build a long term business.

JLZ.

[QUOTE=JLZ61;2142610]But the chance of both being compromised is less than of just one.
JLZ.[/QUOTE]I wasn't clear. The situation is he is LE and he busts her. She turns over her account to work things off. He uses his account to write a review of her and he uses her account to post a thanks. We take that as a sign she is good and contact her unaware we are dealing with LE. We set things up and walk into the trap because LE is there. We ID ourselves as the guy behind the email by showing up at the appointed place and time. Sorry for the confusion.

Quote Originally Posted by NKYGentleman {View Original Post}.

I walked in the room and met a very classy, genuine, woman who's intelligent, very attractive and accommodating to my requests and needs. I would love to have this woman to my self. Of all the providers and some of ladies that I have personally seen. This one I would take home to meet my mother.

Like I said before, it was my first post and I was trying to be sincere and genuine with a new provider with those words and I meant them. But as it panned out with other members chiming in and Josh88 finding pics if Lizzy, you would have seen what she really looked like. If you actively follow the board. You would see that she was new to the hobby and was trying not to show her face. Because of family and such. If you read her responds to all of the up roar, you would have read that she did explain about the fake pics. It was an agency that did that. Not her. She just ran with it because she didn't know any better. She's been independent now. Just put your self in her shoe's trying to make ends meet but yet being discreet about it.

It's just a case of two newbie's one being a monger and the other being a provider. A monger sharing info about a new provider. No more and no less. I do agree with the whole LEO thing and playing it safe. Now that we both have been on the hobby for a while now. We have both learned and gain valuable knowledge in this business.

So, if you would like to see a very high caliber person who's college educated, very attractive mature lady. I do recommend her. She's in the process of getting a web site up and having pics of her on it so you will know what she looks like. It may or may not have the shadow covering her face. She hasn't let me know yet.

You can find the info you need of her on BP and on aNotheR site. She's trying to get away from that site (BP), but for now. That's where she's advertising.

No, you were probably clear enough for most. I'll blame my stupidity on 4th of July beers. LOL.

Yah, makes perfect sense. In those cases, providers responding to reviews wouldn't suffice. However, those cases are few and far between (I hope).

The point is that providers help both sides by responding and acknowledging reviews. It would help if more of them did that, especially with newer members.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;2142625]I wasn't clear. The situation is he is LE and he busts her. She turns over her account to work things off. He uses his account to write a review of her and he uses her account to post a thanks. We take that as a sign she is good and contact her unaware we are dealing with LE. We set things up and walk into the trap because LE is there. We ID ourselves as the guy behind the email by showing up at the appointed place and time. Sorry for the confusion.[/QUOTE]

So it's begining to get populated, thanks to all the ladies and their patience with the early hickups.

I have to say something though, if you have two monitors pull up our site [URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/[/URL] then pull up the competition (BP cough, cough) and look at them side by side. Man there is just no fucking comparing them, ours looks 100 times better.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2142707]So it's begining to get populated, thanks to all the ladies and their patience with the early hickups.

I have to say something though, if you have two monitors pull up our site [URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/[/URL] then pull up the competition (BP cough, cough) and look at them side by side. Man there is just no fucking comparing them, ours looks 100 times better.

A2.[/QUOTE]Two small issues with the design of the new site:

1) No visible usernames on any of the posts. It's hard to tell who the actual poster is unless you start comparing individual ads against the ones in the existing thread, which is obviously not a workable solution.

2) The picture thumbnails on the left of each post look really squashed if the picture is portrait instead of landscape.

Other than that, seems okay. Not quite clear on what the need was for a new site, though, or how things are supposed to interact with the review threads here.

[QUOTE=Zcochran00;2142730]Two small issues with the design of the new site:

1) No visible usernames on any of the posts. It's hard to tell who the actual poster is unless you start comparing individual ads against the ones in the existing thread, which is obviously not a workable solution.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Nothing is stopping the girls from putting their user names in the title. But I get the point, it's about sending PM's from there and it's a good one, I will send that to the Russians.[/BLUE]

[QUOTE]2) The picture thumbnails on the left of each post look really squashed if the picture is portrait instead of landscape.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Agreed, the base software that we bought doesn't automatically adjust for that. If they post tall thin pics the AR gets all screwed up. We could crop them but then we don't know if they will like it. I think the solution is to add something on the posting side where they get a little box they can set on the photo to make the thumbnails.[/BLUE]

[QUOTE]Other than that, seems okay. Not quite clear on what the need was for a new site, though, or how things are supposed to interact with the review threads here.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Because life is getting more expensive and we don't want to start making your guys pay so we are going to start having a nominal charge for the advertisers. This site wasn't really set up for what we wanted to do. Personally I think our competitor has gotten way too comfortable with their business and their site isn't that great. I think we can do better. Especially since we have you guys here as well. Maybe more chicks brings more guys and soon people say "Back who? Oh I remember them, they used to have a big website. I wonder what happened to them?"

We want to develop more features for this site so we can offer a subscription level membership for guys that want more functionality and that's very, VERY expensive. We will always have the free area just like now but lots of guys talk about things they would like to see here and most say they would pay for them. The problem is you kind of have to build it first and that's not cheap.

It's about growth, and offering a better product. We are just starting out with the new site and will continue to improve it over the next couple months. We intend to integrate it closely with the forum.

Thanks for the comments,

A2[/BLUE]

Am I just that blind but, where do we go to log in to post a review on the new site?

[blue]DOH! I forgot to start the new thread, you can now post your reviews on the USA Adult Classified Advertiser: Reviews, thread.

Sorry, that's why we opened in one city only.

A2[/blue]

Quite frankly, I don't want to use a site that only posts ads with no reviews and no detailed information. Until its integrated with the forum, it's a pain in the ass to flip back and forth to read about the advertisers. Why the need to be MORE like BP when we love USASG because it's NOT like BP?

[QUOTE=Admin2;2142707]So it's begining to get populated, thanks to all the ladies and their patience with the early hickups.

I have to say something though, if you have two monitors pull up our site [URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/[/URL] then pull up the competition (BP cough, cough) and look at them side by side. Man there is just no fucking comparing them, ours looks 100 times better.

A2.[/QUOTE]While I agree I think the new site looks better than BP, what is the functional difference?

What I absolutely LOVE about USASG is that everything is out in the open: services, rates, reviews, etc. If the only way to inquire about the information missing from the ads is to PM or text, it makes it risky or cumbersome for mongers. If we have to go to another site to read or post a review, it's no better. If all you wanted to do is raise revenue from advertisers, why not charge a monthly membership fee on USASG?

Am I missing something?

[QUOTE=Cincyman513;2141459]You're the second post I've seen about her not showing. I found her communication to be ridiculous. You can text her something a she MAY reply 4-21 hours later and never answer the question you asked. I gave up on her as it wasn't worth the aggrevation. I wonder if her posts every day bring in any business. Don't besurprised if she post that something happened and that she was sorry AND that she will make it up to you. Advice: DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH![/QUOTE]Well, I have that 4-21 hour estimate beat! I received a text 29 hours after our missed appointment saying "Sorry, babe I over slept". I'm so fucking done with this shit from anyone who yanks me like this. There's way too much pussy out there to put up with this crap.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2142707]So it's begining to get populated, thanks to all the ladies and their patience with the early hickups.

I have to say something though, if you have two monitors pull up our site [URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/[/URL] then pull up the competition (BP cough, cough) and look at them side by side. Man there is just no fucking comparing them, ours looks 100 times better.

A2.[/QUOTE]One more suggestion for the new site. Is there a way to put up how many times a provider has posted an ad? It would help pick out the new providers at a glance (and help with figuring that out when we are checking out providers when we travel). Yes, everyone will start at zero since the site just started, but over time it will be easier to quickly see who is a senior and who is a newbie.

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;2142834]While I agree I think the new site looks better than BP, what is the functional difference?

What I absolutely LOVE about USASG is that everything is out in the open: services, rates, reviews, etc. If the only way to inquire about the information missing from the ads is to PM or text, it makes it risky or cumbersome for mongers. If we have to go to another site to read or post a review, it's no better. If all you wanted to do is raise revenue from advertisers, why not charge a monthly membership fee on USASG?

Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]For a couple reasons, the reviews aren't going anywhere, AND we want to add functionality to the advertiser site with a "review me on USASG" button on each ad. So you see a chick, you bang a chick, then you click on her button that says "Review me on USASG" there will also be a button, "Read my reviews on USASG" and since guys have been using her button to make the reviews it makes it easier on the back end to present only her reviews.

Sorry you think it's a pain in the ass but new things always are, it always gets easier with practice. We had to do something about separating money from the act, we really don't want to wake up one morning and see "This Website has been seized" on the front page. We simply HAD to get to ads of this site. Once that's done then everything here is protected speech and unless they have a new constitutional congress and rewrite the 1st amendment we should be ok.

Work with us while we figure it out, we will get it right for you guys.

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;2142852]Well, I have that 4-21 hour estimate beat! I received a text 29 hours after our missed appointment saying "Sorry, babe I over slept". I'm so fucking done with this shit from anyone who yanks me like this. There's way too much pussy out there to put up with this crap.[/QUOTE]Amen.

Molly, for one, NEVER disappoints.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2142953]For a couple reasons, the reviews aren't going anywhere, AND we want to add functionality to the advertiser site with a "review me on USASG" button on each ad. So you see a chick, you bang a chick, then you click on her button that says "Review me on USASG" there will also be a button, "Read my reviews on USASG" and since guys have been using her button to make the reviews it makes it easier on the back end to present only her reviews.

Sorry you think it's a pain in the ass but new things always are, it always gets easier with practice. We had to do something about separating money from the act, we really don't want to wake up one morning and see "This Website has been seized" on the front page. We simply HAD to get to ads of this site. Once that's done then everything here is protected speech and unless they have a new constitutional congress and rewrite the 1st amendment we should be ok.

Work with us while we figure it out, we will get it right for you guys.[/QUOTE]Thank makes a difference. I'm so fucking impatient! Thanks, A2!

Am I missing something or is there a space for agency girls to advertise on the new site? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Daddymonger;2143145]Am I missing something or is there a space for agency girls to advertise on the new site? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think their handler can post each individual ad for them but not as an agency. I am pretty sure that's the way A2 described it.

[blue]Yup, that's right. Though I prefer to think of it as a coordinator not a handler.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=AdamP469;2142179]Is there still a high end provider even advertising on this board? I though A2 got rid of her? Anyway, the one high end provider I have seen did accept half her donation up front via green dot. Had she not come highly recommended by a provider I already knew, in this case Molly Daniels, I would have been suspicious that the green dot pre-payment was a scam. But taking into account the cost of the room she booked and her base fee for appointments, the pre-payment was basically insurance that she wasn't going to lose money if there was a last minute cancellation or if some guy was just jerking her around with no real intention of ever seeing her. I'm sure what I gave her via green dot went towards paying for the room, but I don't think she had several more appointments after seeing me, simply because there just are not that many hobbyists in this market who are going to donate several hundred bucks when they see a last minute ad posted by a high end escort, so the cost of the room probably did not get defrayed over the course of multiple appointments. As for the question about endless texts, I've. Noticed that it is becoming more common. The providers who are doing it tell me it is because they have had so many cancellations that they are nervous that if they don't keep following up with somebody, their date will be a no show.[/QUOTE]I could understand that if that was the only client she was seeing but it sounds like she wanted him to pay for half the room for Saturday and Sunday and that is crossing the line to me especially when she is working all weekend and if she is texting him that much isn't that a little overboard or she trying to keep him to herself if that's the guess why is she seeing other clients if she is texting that man every day several times a day I mean seems that somewhere down the line will cause some kind of conflict don't you think good luck to you man use your best judgement in this situation.

[QUOTE=DNut;2142609]I hear what you're saying, and in my defence, here is the post that made me think he wasn't legit.

It was a first time post / review of a provider that was obviously using fake pictures of Elizabeth Shue. First time poster, glowing review of a new provider using fake pictures. How is that not a red flag that other mongers need to be made aware of? Even without the review, the ad alone is a clear cut bait-and-switch situation, unless of course, Elizabeth Shue was providing escort services in Cincinnati.

But you are right. This is not my board and I am a guest. If you say no more calling out of newbies, so be it.[/QUOTE]Use the report post button then in the "Comments" field type this "It was a first time post / review of a provider that was obviously using fake pictures of Elizabeth Shue. First time poster, glowing review of a new provider using fake pictures. ".

Then I review the post, run google image search on the pics, see they are Elizabeth Shue, delete the post and any other douche posts that quoted it, then send a PM to the guy that posted it asking "Hey why the fuck are you writing glowing reviews about Elizabeth Shue? If she's selling pussy I need the number. " I then put a note in his account that writes in BIG FUCKING [RED]RED[/RED] letters [RED]CHECK ALL PICS[/RED] every time he posts and if he does it again, I just start deleting any links or posts of reviews. Or maybe he writes me back and says "Yeah, I knew the photos weren't her but she kinda looks like Elizabeth Shue and she fucks really good" but he didn't know to say that because it's his first time at bat.

This solves the problem, the issue is corrected. Using your method, nothing gets fixed because I don't know about it. Besides that, you spend 5 times as much time writing him as reporting it which you coulda spent looking for pussy.

You're a guest in the house brother, let me take out the trash and empty the ashtrays, it's what I get paid for.

A2.

I would like to ask who is the best duos to see I thank you for anyone's input on this.

[QUOTE=GoBig;2143003]How having paid advertising by providers associated with USASG will affect the general operations of the site, rules, enforcement of rules, official Admin attitudes toward "newbies," treatment of reviews on providers from other sites, links to other sites, etc.

Just sayin.[/QUOTE]Not a whole lot to any of it. Since they are helping with the bills I'm trying to see Jax on the idea of letting them append remarks to a review (kind of like what Remmy did in here the other day) but I'll never delete a review that doesn't break our rules because a provider doesn't like it, that's never, ever going to happen.

The official admin attitude towards newbies is going to be the same, stop fucking hitting them on the head with hammers. If you think they are shilling, write me, I'll look at it, if I find the proof I need I'll ban the name, or at least restrict them from posting about that provider. If they are assholes put them on your ignore list. If they break the rules I throw flags.

The forum will always and forever be "A place for men to talk about women for sex" that's never going to change as long as I have this job, you can take that to the fucking bank.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2142953]For a couple reasons, the reviews aren't going anywhere, AND we want to add functionality to the advertiser site with a "review me on USASG" button on each ad. So you see a chick, you bang a chick, then you click on her button that says "Review me on USASG" there will also be a button, "Read my reviews on USASG" and since guys have been using her button to make the reviews it makes it easier on the back end to present only her reviews.

Sorry you think it's a pain in the ass but new things always are, it always gets easier with practice. We had to do something about separating money from the act, we really don't want to wake up one morning and see "This Website has been seized" on the front page. We simply HAD to get to ads of this site. Once that's done then everything here is protected speech and unless they have a new constitutional congress and rewrite the 1st amendment we should be ok.

Work with us while we figure it out, we will get it right for you guys.[/QUOTE]A2, I was under the impression that since this site is operated from ARG that good old uncle asshole couldn't get to you, the info on your servers, or those of us who enjoy meandering around in here. Now I might not be as internet savvy as I like to think, but why would you be worried about USA Law from over there? And by the way, I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I really want to know because its important to the way I operate.

Thanks,

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;2143325]A2, I was under the impression that since this site is operated from ARG that good old uncle asshole couldn't get to you, the info on your servers, or those of us who enjoy meandering around in here. Now I might not be as internet savvy as I like to think, but why would you be worried about USA Law from over there? And by the way, I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I really want to know because its important to the way I operate.

Thanks,

Cheech.[/QUOTE]While ICANN is the final arbitrator of domain names if a domain ends in .com, .gov, .info, dot anything without another dot and two more letters it's a US domain name. In order to own a US domain name you have to have a US address, somebody or something needs to own that address.

If your domain ends in .com.ar it's an Argentine domain, .ru Russia ect. ect. Have you ever noticed what ours ends in?

Yes we will probably move it someday.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2143394]While ICANN is the final arbitrator of domain names if a domain ends in .com, .gov, .info, dot anything without another dot and two more letters it's a US domain name. In order to own a US domain name you have to have a US address, somebody or something needs to own that address.

If your domain ends in .com.ar it's an Argentine domain, .ru Russia ect. ect. Have you ever noticed what ours ends in?

Yes we will probably move it someday.[/QUOTE]Thank you JAX! Thank you A2 for all your work here! JG.