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Heaven Leee.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/heavenleee-delight-secret-mass/362052136396[/URL]
I have not seen her, but she is on my list. Let us know if you go see her.
[QUOTE=SweetHemiStud;4702325]There's a chick in Sparta?? Do you have contact info or a link?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AssMann45;4702101]Hello.
Back several months ago I did a post of being robbed by Nikki Juggs. I used to be a regular with her for sometime, but think she got hooked up with the wrong crowd. So was suprised that she robbed me back then.
I've been getting random calls from her lately. Any of her other past clients getting the same from her?? She was my go to for a bit cause she loved to fuck, and was good at it! I loved her body back then, but when she robbed me, I noticed that she lost some weight probably duento candy issues?? I know Chip Charger used to frequent with her too? Just curious if she has changed at all? Possibly worth seeing again? She had a wide open menu and allowed msog once she got comfortable with you. Again, curious if its worth reaching out? Not interested in getting robbed again, but can say that I'll beat that little fuck that she was with that day when I was robbed.
Be safe out there![/QUOTE]You're willing to go back to a girl who robbed you?
Give her more money?
[QUOTE=AssMann45;4702101]Hello.
Back several months ago I did a post of being robbed by Nikki Juggs. I used to be a regular with her for sometime, but think she got hooked up with the wrong crowd. So was suprised that she robbed me back then.
I've been getting random calls from her lately. Any of her other past clients getting the same from her?? She was my go to for a bit cause she loved to fuck, and was good at it! I loved her body back then, but when she robbed me, I noticed that she lost some weight probably duento candy issues?? I know Chip Charger used to frequent with her too? Just curious if she has changed at all? Possibly worth seeing again? She had a wide open menu and allowed msog once she got comfortable with you. Again, curious if its worth reaching out? Not interested in getting robbed again, but can say that I'll beat that little fuck that she was with that day when I was robbed.
Be safe out there![/QUOTE]I still haven't got pass the fact she called after she robbed you.
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4701794]So the lack of providers in my area has me depressed LOL. I live north of GR but south of newaygo. And I work in the walker area. I really don't like driving into GR or back tracking unless absolutely necessary. Does anyone know any providers that are Walker, Comstock park area and north or anyone that will meet for a vehicle date? Besides the chick in sparta.[/QUOTE]I think the lack of hotel / motels up here isn't helping. Colonial inn, but rooms vary greatly, either they have bedbugs, smell like mold / mildew, or have other issues.
But I am in kind of the same situation, I don't go into GR much, north of Rockford, I don't even drive to Walker for work. Benz has a UTR in Sand Lake, but that might be a little further north. I'm still trying for a frenz status But about to start working 110 hours a week + drive in Kalamazoo, so any new adventures may have to wait until that is over. Just need something that is quick and easy to set up, half hour and then back to work.
Cedar.
Wow dude I agree with Moonglow. She robbed you and you are considering seeing her? Think a bit about the message that sends. Other options exist.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4702579]I still haven't got pass the fact she called after she robbed you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CedarRock;4702618]I think the lack of hotel / motels up here isn't helping. Colonial inn, but rooms vary greatly, either they have bedbugs, smell like mold / mildew, or have other issues.
But I am in kind of the same situation, I don't go into GR much, north of Rockford, I don't even drive to Walker for work. Benz has a UTR in Sand Lake, but that might be a little further north. I'm still trying for a frenz status But about to start working 110 hours a week + drive in Kalamazoo, so any new adventures may have to wait until that is over. Just need something that is quick and easy to set up, half hour and then back to work.
Cedar.[/QUOTE]Not excluding anyone from the Flower Child in Sand Lake. She has a full time job and loves sex too. This might be her new hobby. She's very limited on when she's available, having a day off work doesn't mean she wants to do us. Currently the line to see her is greater than her need to hobby. She contacts me when she's ready to meet someone new.
[QUOTE=Monger01;4703006]Wow dude I agree with Moonglow. She robbed you and you are considering seeing her? Think a bit about the message that sends. Other options exist.[/QUOTE]Sorry, didn't mean to say I would give her money for a date.
I would never be ok with that. Was more curious any past clients of hers get calls like I have.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4703209]Not excluding anyone from the Flower Child in Sand Lake. She has a full time job and loves sex too. This might be her new hobby. She's very limited on when she's available, having a day off work doesn't mean she wants to do us. Currently the line to see her is greater than her need to hobby. She contacts me when she's ready to meet someone new.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean to imply that you were excluding. And it is probably best to let her see this as a fun hobby, instead of a chore and a job. Better experience that way for all.
I was trying to imply that someday I might get to meet her, and was letting another guy know there are some options up this way if he wanted to check with you as she doesn't advertise, and you have her trust and therefore number.
Once again, sorry if I misspoke.
[QUOTE=SlapShot69;4702339]Heaven Leee.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/heavenleee-delight-secret-mass/362052136396[/URL]
I have not seen her, but she is on my list. Let us know if you go see her.[/QUOTE][URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-amazing-heavenlee-to-make/923676495972[/URL]
I've seen her several times over the years and she's a good provider in my opinion. But she looks nothing like her posts. She's cute but short and stocky. Some have described her as looking like a linebacker. I don't know about that necessarily, but she's definitely isn't 134 lbs. What she does have is a very firm body for her height and weight. Good luck.
[QUOTE=AssMann45;4703346]Sorry, didn't mean to say I would give her money for a date.
I would never be ok with that. Was more curious any past clients of hers get calls like I have.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]If that is what you meant ok, but you said "Possibly worth seeing again? She had a wide open menu and allowed msog once she got comfortable with you. Again, curious if its worth reaching out? Not interested in getting robbed again. " So it is confusing reading that. But again your choice.
Not trying to raise fears but thought this was interesting. Just kind of the reality of the situation whether you agree with the precautions or not.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/seattle-sex-workers-covid19-coronavirus-094500177.html[/URL]
I was in Vegas this week and the two trusted regulars that I see when I am there told me that their calls are down over 70% and even the regulars are not making appointments.
On top of that over 50 conventions have been canceled in Las Vegas through May and I am sure more to come.
Resorts and casinos are almost empty.
One of my go to ladies here in West Michigan said that if her kids are out of school (which just happened) then she could not do as many massages as she usually does
This is going be a huge cluster fuck all the way around.
Have fun and be safe.
[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4703450]Not trying to raise fears but thought this was interesting. Just kind of the reality of the situation whether you agree with the precautions or not.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/seattle-sex-workers-covid19-coronavirus-094500177.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spartan191;4703865]I was in Vegas this week and the two trusted regulars that I see when I am there told me that their calls are down over 70% and even the regulars are not making appointments.
On top of that over 50 conventions have been canceled in Las Vegas through May and I am sure more to come.
Resorts and casinos are almost empty.
One of my go to ladies here in West Michigan said that if her kids are out of school (which just happened) then she could not do as many massages as she usually does
This is going be a huge cluster fuck all the way around.
Have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]Things are about to get a whole lot more insane in the coming days. Might be taking a short break from this hobby myself. Stay safe out there, all of you.
[QUOTE=Monger01;4703006]Wow dude I agree with Moonglow. She robbed you and you are considering seeing her? Think a bit about the message that sends. Other options exist.[/QUOTE]His post reads like he's blaming the guy for being robbed not the hooker.
"I'll beat that little fuck that she was with that day when I was robbed"
Rob me once shame on you.
Rob me twice shame on me?
Never give a robbing hoe another chance. Whether she pleads or begs that she's different or whatever she's going to go back to her old ways eventually. So unless you're strapped and ready to fight then I would pass on any hoe who sets you up like that.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4704011]His post reads like he's blaming the guy for being robbed not the hooker.
"I'll beat that little fuck that she was with that day when I was robbed"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4703450]Not trying to raise fears but thought this was interesting. Just kind of the reality of the situation whether you agree with the precautions or not.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/seattle-sex-workers-covid19-coronavirus-094500177.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I have compassion for the ladies that depend on the income, but I am going to take a break for a while to see where this all goes. I don't want to unblinkingly give someone this virus, nor have them unknowingly pass it on to me.
If you get it, what will you tell the heath authorities that interrogate you about who you have had recent contact with?
[QUOTE=WaginTail;4704199]I have compassion for the ladies that depend on the income, but I am going to take a break for a while to see where this all goes. I don't want to unblinkingly give someone this virus, nor have them unknowingly pass it on to me.
If you get it, what will you tell the heath authorities that interrogate you about who you have had recent contact with?[/QUOTE]Going to be a lot of desperate ladies out there. I'll be there to support them thru this. Hell I could get it from the worker at McDonald's putting the lid on my coffee with their bare hand.
Let's not react out of fear. Of course use precautions (no kissing, etc). It's the fear and our reactions that will make this situation way worse than it needs to be. Example. My sons outdoor track season is cancelled. Track. Outdoors. Small crowds. Fresh Air. Way greater risk of air pollution or skin cancer than catching covid-19.
This is all reactionary band wagon shit that people are doing.
[QUOTE=Jp1225;4704223]Going to be a lot of desperate ladies out there. I'll be there to support them thru this. Hell I could get it from the worker at McDonald's putting the lid on my coffee with their bare hand.
Let's not react out of fear. Of course use precautions (no kissing, etc). It's the fear and our reactions that will make this situation way worse than it needs to be. Example. My sons outdoor track season is cancelled. Track. Outdoors. Small crowds. Fresh Air. Way greater risk of air pollution or skin cancer than catching covid-19.
This is all reactionary band wagon shit that people are doing.[/QUOTE]I saw one of my utrs today and left her with a big jug of sanitary wipes, told her to stay sanitized and safe.
We should help them not shut them out.
I can go to Serenity or MissHunters house and be confident they are keeping everything sanitized (OCD Girls).
Stay safe.
Yes. She has reviews in the GR Escort forum. Go to that forum and search for "Alexis" using the Search Thread located in upper right hand part of the page.
[QUOTE=SlapShot69;4702339]Heaven Leee.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/heavenleee-delight-secret-mass/362052136396[/URL]
I have not seen her, but she is on my list. Let us know if you go see her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SweetHemiStud;4702325]There's a chick in Sparta?? Do you have contact info or a link?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WaginTail;4704199]I have compassion for the ladies that depend on the income, but I am going to take a break for a while to see where this all goes. I don't want to unblinkingly give someone this virus, nor have them unknowingly pass it on to me.
If you get it, what will you tell the heath authorities that interrogate you about who you have had recent contact with?[/QUOTE]Someone with whom you couldn't pass up a $40 short session with, due to the big sales going on? In all honestly, you could basically just say you went to a strip club and had a lap dance. Pretty close to the truth as far as what genre you're diving into as far as catching a respiratory virus that can be carried on your hands and face, too.
Essentially I think it limits a lot of guys to girls who are higher end and don't see a ton of guys and are OCD at the same time. That said, it's been pretty low-end, as we're in prevention mode right now. In another month, it'll be higher. Then if we play our cards right, it will start to level off at that point, then by mid-May us having a sigh of relief as more people recovering than getting it. But in reality, who knows how it'll unfold.
[QUOTE=Charlie441;4705041]Someone with whom you couldn't pass up a $40 short session with, due to the big sales going on? In all honestly, you could basically just say you went to a strip club and had a lap dance. Pretty close to the truth as far as what genre you're diving into as far as catching a respiratory virus that can be carried on your hands and face, too.
Essentially I think it limits a lot of guys to girls who are higher end and don't see a ton of guys and are OCD at the same time. That said, it's been pretty low-end, as we're in prevention mode right now. In another month, it'll be higher. Then if we play our cards right, it will start to level off at that point, then by mid-May us having a sigh of relief as more people recovering than getting it. But in reality, who knows how it'll unfold.[/QUOTE]I think that I'm the short term those who will be seeing clients at all prices may go up (I know of a couple AMP closing for a few weeks for example). While one would think that cheaper prices and specials would attract more clients I think the fear and risk of getting sick will cause them to say increase risk = increase reward. The hobby will continue during this time and after, no doubt, but I think this changes everything. Both mongers and providers may go long enough without this to come to a realization that it's not worth it anymore. I believe our perspectives and priorities will be altered forever from this experience.
Like everything else in our world, sex will become online or self serve. So go buy stock in companies that make sex toys and blowup Suzy dolls!
[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4703450]Not trying to raise fears but thought this was interesting. Just kind of the reality of the situation whether you agree with the precautions or not.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/seattle-sex-workers-covid19-coronavirus-094500177.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I quickly skimmed through the article. I don't really feel bad for these girls at all. The one girl was making 4 grand a week. The other one was charging 500 hundred an hour. These girls have been laughing all the way to the bank with all of the money they have been making. If for some reason our income was affected by the Coronavirus hype do you think they would care? Highly doubt it.
[QUOTE=Rome123;4705995]I quickly skimmed through the article. I don't really feel bad for these girls at all. The one girl was making 4 grand a week. The other one was charging 500 hundred an hour. These girls have been laughing all the way to the bank with all of the money they have been making. If for some reason our income was affected by the Coronavirus hype do you think they would care? Highly doubt it.[/QUOTE]I've been kicking back in my Wait N See mode. Getting plenty of offers that are hard to refuse. I'm not trying to negotiate or gouge the girls on price. They're offering.
Wait N See works for me.
Stay safe.
I saw a girl over the weekend. It's the first girl I've seen in a month and a half. I saw her a couple times last year. Outcall to a hotel that I paid for in my name. She honestly asked if she could use my room for an incall to see other guys when we were done. I politely told her that wasn't a good idea. I told her if something would happen they would come after me. I can't believe she even had the nerve to ask if she could do that. Third and last time I will ever see her. This is a prime example of how these girls just don't care. They will take as much as possible if they can.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4707618]I've been kicking back in my Wait N See mode. Getting plenty of offers that are hard to refuse. I'm not trying to negotiate or gouge the girls on price. They're offering.
Wait N See works for me.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]This is no doubt a buyers market like Benz says, whatever your stance one thing for sure is business is bottoming out for these ladies and good deals are out there. Stay safe!
[QUOTE=HughJeffenCock;4708312]This is no doubt a buyers market like Benz says, whatever your stance one thing for sure is business is bottoming out for these ladies and good deals are out there. Stay safe![/QUOTE]Where are these deals at??
I've been getting high quotes.
[QUOTE=Stb421;4708854]Where are these deals at??
I've been getting high quotes.[/QUOTE]If you're getting high quotes That's because you're calling them. Wait and See means I wait until they call me.
One of the advantages of Facebook, they can see when you're online, send you a message and get a response in real time. When they need it. Not when we need them. That's when they offer the discounts
[QUOTE=Benz1;4708892]If you're getting high quotes That's because you're calling them. Wait and See means I wait until they call me.
One of the advantages of Facebook, they can see when you're online, send you a message and get a response in real time. When they need it. Not when we need them.[/QUOTE]How can you do it with facebook do they advertise there.
[QUOTE=WanToBe;4708917]How can you do it with facebook do they advertise there.[/QUOTE]They don't advertise on fb. Infact if you approach them most providers will block you.
It's a long process of getting to know them through friends, referrals and just being a nice guy. Sometimes all they want is a ride somewhere and they will ask to borrow money. I tell them they don't don't have to pay it back if we trade. Usually think about for 1 min. And cum through for you.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4709402]They don't advertise on fb. Infact if you approach them most providers will block you.
It's a long process of getting to know them through friends, referrals and just being a nice guy. Sometimes all they want is a ride somewhere and they will ask to borrow money. I tell them they don't don't have to pay it back if we trade. Usually think about for 1 min. And cum through for you.[/QUOTE]How did you find them.
[QUOTE=WanToBe;4710139]How did you find them.[/QUOTE]I started my research before BP went down. After the owner of Backpage was arrested, I knew the hobby was going to change and I needed a new approach.
A lot of mongers think fb can be used like STG, that's why It doesn't work for them. It's a slow process they need to trust you. One way for them to trust you is to have many mutual friends.
Start now with a hobby fb page. Hope this helps.
Happy Hunting.
Saw this on STG. Watch what you say the girls in GR might start a union. Somehow the screen shots didn't give Benz credit for his responses.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lowballing-mongers/337133760719[/URL]
[QUOTE=Benz1;4710543]I started my research before BP went down. After the owner of Backpage was arrested, I knew the hobby was going to change and I needed a new approach.
A lot of mongers think fb can be used like STG, that's why It doesn't work for them. It's a slow process they need to trust you. One way for them to trust you is to have many mutual friends.
Start now with a hobby fb page. Hope this helps.
Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]I agree. I have a fake FB page. I started to keep in touch with strippers from both Parkway and Sensations. They have many mutual friends that are escorts and UTR gals. By the way, with no strip clubs open, many dancers are starting to freak out and the offers have been increasingly coming in as the days go by.
Wow that's funny!
In all things, the people with the cash hold the power. I'm now on strike! My wallet is closed. MY rent / mtg. Will be paid. How about yours?
Joking aside, if I were them I'd react the same but the part left out is the fact prices are way higher since BP went offline.
[QUOTE=Rome123;4710817]Saw this on STG. Watch what you say the girls in GR might start a union. Somehow the screen shots didn't give Benz credit for his responses.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lowballing-mongers/337133760719[/URL][/QUOTE]
Saw that too and laughed. I understand value is up to their own discretion but when no one is coming because you're charging 60 dollars more for shitty service then that's on you. It's not low balling to haggle down 10 or 20 dollars especially if you know that business is slow. I am with you though with providers thinking this will hurt mongers when we have the money and the means and there's plenty of girls out there willing to see us without the attitude and overpriced pussy.
[QUOTE=Monger01;4710910]Wow that's funny!
In all things, the people with the cash hold the power. I'm now on strike! My wallet is closed. MY rent / mtg. Will be paid. How about yours?
Joking aside, if I were them I'd react the same but the part left out is the fact prices are way higher since BP went offline.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Monger01;4710910]Wow that's funny!
In all things, the people with the cash hold the power. I'm now on strike! My wallet is closed. MY rent / mtg. Will be paid. How about yours?
Joking aside, if I were them I'd react the same but the part left out is the fact prices are way higher since BP went offline.[/QUOTE]Right, LOL.
Girls strung out asking for 150 hhr LOL. Their dealers will only trade drugs for sex so long and eventually demand money.
Providers not supporting a drug dealer have always been worth more than the druggies.
This is just one provider that posted this. Wonder if she can handle a full time job with drug testing.
All Bullshit aside, I never mentioned contacting a provider with a low ball offer. I said Wait N See works for me. This provider could be panicking about wait n see not low ball offers. I dont think they are really unionized, most of them think of they others as competitors.
They need to eat, they have our numbers stored in their phones. Wait n see what happens
She forgot that we can fuck our wives for 2 or 3 weeks maybe even a month or two.
If you know a provider without a drug habit help her out. Let the strung out providers fuck their pimps for their food, shelter and drugs. Wait n see how long that lasts.
I doubt she'll copy and paste this.
Stay safe.
Exactly.
Not even 2 years ago HH was 70-100,125-150 / hr. For decent girls. Less for the low end druggies. 75 for a HH was normal. Inflation runs about 2-3%. So no excuses. My pay sure as hell didn't rise at the pace pussy prices did. And MPs, don't even get me started. 100 + door fee for a topless HJ. Seriously?
[QUOTE=Benz1;4711059]Right, LOL.
Girls strung out asking for 150 hhr. Their dealers will only trade drugs for sex so long and eventually demand money.
For providers not supporting a drug dealer have always been worth more than the druggies.
This is just one provider that posted this. Wonder if she can handle a full time job with drug testing.
All B. S aside they need to eat, they have our numbers stored in their phones.
They forgot that we can fuck our wives for 2 or 3 weeks.
If you know a provider without a drug habit help her out. Let the strung out ones fuck their pimps for their food shelter and drugs.
I doubt she'll copy and paste this.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rome123;4710817]Saw this on STG. Watch what you say the girls in GR might start a union. Somehow the screen shots didn't give Benz credit for his responses.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lowballing-mongers/337133760719[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm a little confused wondering who posted the ad. The number associated with it is linked to ads from Miranda Redd, which I think was the provider that someone said passed away:
[QUOTE=StripperTipper;4693699]Apparently this beautiful young lady has passed away.
I never got the chance to see her.
[URL]http://jackson-mi.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/miranda-died-from-an-overdose/466066859478[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Monger01;4711070]Exactly.
Not even 2 years ago HH was 70-100,125-150 / hr. For decent girls. Less for the low end druggies. 75 for a HH was normal. Inflation runs about 2-3%. So no excuses. My pay sure as hell didn't rise at the pace pussy prices did. And MPs, don't even get me started. 100 + door fee for a topless HJ. Seriously?[/QUOTE]Not only did the prices seem to rise but as well as the attitude. It used to be you can chat it up and try to get a decent price for both. Now theres a minimum of 100 for ss? Or the new thing of 100 for qv (BJ) 140 qv FS 160 hh and 200 hr? It was only a few years ago where 80 was hh and 150 hr. Now inflation has that doubled? Psh I will stick with my regulars who value the relationship of good service at a decent price. If these GPS providers decide they would rather little or no customers because they can't be taken down from their high prices then let them starve and you will see quickly how many specials they run to make up for loss time.
I have stopped going to a majority of the parlors because of the minimum tipping or lack of quality. You got girls who don't understand that 40 dollars for a hh isn't that bad and that it would quickly add up if they had a decent stream line of regulars who donate between 40-60 per hh session but because the game is make as much money by giving little to no effort as possible that I quit going to these parlors that overpay. I would rather get a regular massage at 60 an hour that comes with spa treatment than a girl who flips me over 5 minutes in because she wants to discuss donations. I still remember Robin from Royal Touch when I got in the game and she demanded 100 for topless 5 minutes into the massage and got pissed because I didn't want to talk about it so soon. Hard work with quality is rare now a days so that's why my wallet stays shut unless for a couple of great regulars.
[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4711146]I'm a little confused wondering who posted the ad. The number associated with it is linked to ads from Miranda Redd, which I think was the provider that someone said passed away:[/QUOTE]Now both of those posts on STG have been deleted. Who do you suppose has that phone right now?