Massage Parlor Reports

Guys watch out. I was going to take my monthly trip to a spa and was going back to Maia since I got a great body slide massage from Linda the last time. It took 2 visits with her to do this. Great session even though she isn't the best looking.

I was making my loop in the parking lot when I noticed a non marked Police car. The PD was just sitting in his car watching the traffic this place gets. I am warning you fellow spa mongers to be careful. I would stay away for a while. Once it dies down you must try the body slide. Make sure to ask for it.

Thanks

Visited Maia in Roswell last Sunday, early afternoon, 1st trip. I have not seen it reviewed on this site. Rear of strip center entrance, very private if that is important to you. Entered foyer, no answer after hitting buzzer, waited about 1-2 minutes, since no cars were visible, did not know what to think. Young koren answered door & walked me straight to a typical room, the sign out front states $80/hr $60 for half, she asked what I wanted, I told her $140 for FS. She seemed shocked, told me $40 for 1/2 hour, went to gey mamasun who popped her head in, asked if I had been before, said yes, about a year ago. She shook head, OK.

Massage started with usual tech, I was horned up & did not know if FS was coming, so I started roaming perfect bod. Black wife beater & daisy dukes, could almost touch hands around tiny waist, breasts looked perfect under shirt, dukes were a little loose because she was so small!

I asked if she would undress during massage, just got a giggle, spoke almost no english, looked no older than 22. Keep telling me it was her 1st day, average masssage, finally on the turn she comments on my flaccid member, asked if I was shy! I said, hell no, lets go!. After 2-3 minutes motioned for HJ, I countered with BJ. Quick drop of clothes, although, I sort of wanted her to keep something on. Started CBJ, but first few min thought it was a BBBJ, where did the condom come from? She is Houdini, then the usual cj, k9, mish.

Finished & paid remaining $100 for total of $140. I will be back, not know her name, I could not understand anything she said. Very nice & younger/smaller than any other AMP provider I have had.

[QUOTE=Shazbot1960]Finished & paid remaining $100 for total of $140. I will be back, not know her name, I could not understand anything she said. Very nice & younger/smaller than any other AMP provider I have had.[/QUOTE]thanks for that report. I will no be goin there to waist my money.

[QUOTE=Pgh 2221]Guys watch out. I was going to take my monthly trip to a spa and was going back to Maia since I got a great body slide massage from Linda the last time. It took 2 visits with her to do this. Great session even though she isn't the best looking.

I was making my loop in the parking lot when I noticed a non marked Police car. The PD was just sitting in his car watching the traffic this place gets. I am warning you fellow spa mongers to be careful. I would stay away for a while. Once it dies down you must try the body slide. Make sure to ask for it.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

You might want to warn your fav body slide gal about the unmarked PD car in the parking lot. Hate to see a one of the "good" ones go down.

There is a new Spa on Jonesboro Rd In Mcdonough anyone Info?

I haven't added to the Atlanta section in awhile now but I'm in town for the weekend and was looking for a Spa visit. I found Midori (I think) spa in Doraville through creative loafing. Called and was told 60 for an hour with table shower. Plus I had a 10 dollar off coupon from the paper. That was what I wanted and already had another girl lined up for after the massage for FS. So a pretty good table shower, where she did clean everywhere after asking if I were trouble. LOL

We headed into the room where I got a fairly decent back rub for about 15 minutes. She then leans over and whispers in my ear "what else would I like? " After asking she says the going rate is 2 for FS, 1 for BJ, and would SETTLE for. 5 for the HJ. I knew prices were going to be high and that is the reason I already had a girl lined up for FS for. 4. So I just asked her to finish the hour with the massage since that is what I had paid for. She gets upset with me and after a brief conversation offers me 20 back because we had already used 30 minutes and she is done with the massage. So I left fairly happy from there for. 3 and headed to my other girl for the rest of my play time.

The total for the day of fun. 7 I wish I still lived here because it sure is better than whats available in WV.

[QUOTE=Sparki]There is a new Spa on Jonesboro Rd In Mcdonough anyone Info?[/QUOTE]

If that is the one past the starbucks, I am fairly confident it is a legit "day" spa. That area is not the place that I would expect you would find one.

Shadow

Anyone tried the cutie at Chalet Spa lately? Just wondering if things have cooled off and extras are available again.

[QUOTE=Gumby975]I haven't added to the Atlanta section in awhile now but I'm in town for the weekend and was looking for a Spa visit. I found Midori (I think) spa in Doraville through creative loafing. Called and was told 60 for an hour with table shower. Plus I had a 10 dollar off coupon from the paper. That was what I wanted and already had another girl lined up for after the massage for FS. So a pretty good table shower, where she did clean everywhere after asking if I were trouble. LOL

We headed into the room where I got a fairly decent back rub for about 15 minutes. She then leans over and whispers in my ear "what else would I like? " After asking she says the going rate is 2 for FS, 1 for BJ, and would SETTLE for. 5 for the HJ. I knew prices were going to be high and that is the reason I already had a girl lined up for FS for. 4. So I just asked her to finish the hour with the massage since that is what I had paid for. She gets upset with me and after a brief conversation offers me 20 back because we had already used 30 minutes and she is done with the massage. So I left fairly happy from there for. 3 and headed to my other girl for the rest of my play time.

The total for the day of fun. 7 I wish I still lived here because it sure is better than whats available in WV.[/QUOTE]Rate for Madori appears to be around 1.1 tip

"10-02-09, 12:48
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Madori Spa Report-Sunee

Went to go to Royal today and saw they had a sign saying they were closed for business. So I ended up going to Madori mamasan lead me to the room and asked me if I had been there before said yes as she left me. Walks in Sunee I'd say she's early 30's wearing normal clothes which I found oddshe she has a nice little body with Natural Cs which were hard to see in normal baggy shirt was wearing. Give her $40 for house plus $110 for tip."

Unless I'm reading that wrong

rate for Maia appears to be 1

"Visited Maia in Roswell last Sunday, early afternoon, 1st trip. I have not seen it reviewed on this site. Rear of strip center entrance, very private if that is important to you. Entered foyer, no answer after hitting buzzer, waited about 1-2 minutes, since no cars were visible, did not know what to think. Young koren answered door & walked me straight to a typical room, the sign out front states $80/hr $60 for half, she asked what I wanted, I told her $140 for FS. She seemed shocked, told me $40 for 1/2 hour, went to gey mamasun who popped her head in, asked if I had been before, said yes, about a year ago. She shook head, OK."

again unless I'm reading that wrong.

Is prevailing tip (not including house) in Atlanta 1-1.5 or over 2?

[QUOTE=Shadowav]If that is the one past the starbucks, I am fairly confident it is a legit "day" spa. That area is not the place that I would expect you would find one.

Shadow[/QUOTE]If it is Well Spa it is an Amp that offers extras, always 2 to 3 providers, they are all Thai, they were busted back a few months ago, providers are pretty and very accomodating.

[QUOTE=Gumby975]I haven't added to the Atlanta section in awhile now but I'm in town for the weekend and was looking for a Spa visit. I found Midori (I think) spa in Doraville through creative loafing. Called and was told 60 for an hour with table shower. Plus I had a 10 dollar off coupon from the paper. That was what I wanted and already had another girl lined up for after the massage for FS. So a pretty good table shower, where she did clean everywhere after asking if I were trouble. LOL

We headed into the room where I got a fairly decent back rub for about 15 minutes. She then leans over and whispers in my ear "what else would I like? " After asking she says the going rate is 2 for FS, 1 for BJ, and would SETTLE for. 5 for the HJ. I knew prices were going to be high and that is the reason I already had a girl lined up for FS for. 4. So I just asked her to finish the hour with the massage since that is what I had paid for. She gets upset with me and after a brief conversation offers me 20 back because we had already used 30 minutes and she is done with the massage. So I left fairly happy from there for. 3 and headed to my other girl for the rest of my play time.

The total for the day of fun. 7 I wish I still lived here because it sure is better than whats available in WV.[/QUOTE]

Care to share with us where one can get FS for .4? I mean, with other than a SW.

[QUOTE=Sparki]There is a new Spa on Jonesboro Rd In Mcdonough anyone Info?[/QUOTE]I tried it out. Place seems legit but to be honestly I did not push too hard because the two girls working there were a 2 or a 3 in the looks department.

Massage was decent but I would avoid.

Was in Atlanta and enjoyed a good time at the Chalet. Very cute girl who gave me massage and then some. She was in mid-30's I guess, very slim. Paid the. 6 for 1 hour. Had a great ts, washed the right areas. Started the massage and then the fun began after about 15 minutes massage. Set me back $$. 40 for the night, but well worth it.

Be careful out there and enjoy.

Merry Christmas

Don't know if this went through yesterday, but here it goes again.

Stopped at this place and paid my. 60 fee for the hour. Had somebody called Juni?, nice body, slim and a nice face to look at. Had the ts and it was great, washed the right areas. Started massage and then in the middle of it turned over and the the Fun Stuff started. All in all a great experience, did set me back $$. 40, but well worth it.

Be careful out there and enjoy.

Your fellow monger

Hit up Tong Tong China Massage today at 3294 Peachtree Industrial Blvd, in Duluth. It's a foot massage joint but you can get a body massage too. Ended up with the manager, Anna Gao. She's a tad pudgy but seems to have nice tits. Unfortunately, she wouldn't let me play with them and no extras. Some of the other girls will do a HJ though.

Ventured over to Great Health in Norcross. Still closed. Then went down the road to Harmony Spa. A old mamasan was there, busily tidying it up and said they'll re-open tomorrow but she has no girls. She'll be the only one giving massages for now.

Then I went over to Midori. Jade is back but was in street clothes and not working. They have a new girl, Bibi. She's thicker than the average AMP girl, maybe 5'3", natural B/C cups and curly hair just past her shoulders. Paid for 30 min, got a thorough TS, then a short massage followed by a HJ. She wasn't getting the job done so I asked for Young to help out. I had both girls jacking me off and ended up staying over an hour. Jade was a little pissed as I walked out, saying I should have paid for more time. I mimicked Bibi's poor HJ skill and she got a good laugh out of that.

Went to Chalet. Got Yumi or Jumi. Don't think it is the "stinky" Yumi as this one is freah and early 20's. Paid the 60 and said I wanted to have fun since it is my birthday. Offered 100 and she smiled and said, We have Fun. TS was good and she cleaned the right places. 15 minute massage while facing down and then she started the light strokes all over including between my legs. Asked me to flip. CBJ that was good. Climbed on for CG, then Doggie and then finished in mish. A good time and she is very petite and cute. A real spinner.

[QUOTE=Microcosm]Went to Chalet. Got Yumi or Jumi. Don't think it is the "stinky" Yumi as this one is freah and early 20's. Paid the 60 and said I wanted to have fun since it is my birthday. Offered 100 and she smiled and said, We have Fun. TS was good and she cleaned the right places. 15 minute massage while facing down and then she started the light strokes all over including between my legs. Asked me to flip. CBJ that was good. Climbed on for CG, then Doggie and then finished in mish. A good time and she is very petite and cute. A real spinner.[/QUOTE]

I sent you a PM for details. It definitely was not the stinky Yumi as she's a lot older. Found out from the new mamasan at Harmony Spa that stinky Yumi has been busted twice, has no green card and has been keeping a low profile. So the girl at Chalet is certainly someone else.

[QUOTE=Microcosm]Went to Chalet. Got Yumi or Jumi. Don't think it is the "stinky" Yumi as this one is freah and early 20's. Paid the 60 and said I wanted to have fun since it is my birthday. Offered 100 and she smiled and said, We have Fun. TS was good and she cleaned the right places. 15 minute massage while facing down and then she started the light strokes all over including between my legs. Asked me to flip. CBJ that was good. Climbed on for CG, then Doggie and then finished in mish. A good time and she is very petite and cute. A real spinner.[/QUOTE]Can we get alittle more details about her looks?

Was going to go chech out the new Royal cause I miss the old one and I RTFF but I just wanna make sure I got it right. Its close to Briarcliff & Clairmont? Use to be Golden Touch? Googled GTHS and got a address close to that. Any help?

Thanks!

Can anyone give me any input regarding other massage review wesites, if any are worth a monthly fee, I have found erotic mp webste a help with reviews, although with out a membership, I only see portions of reviews. I would prefer free of course.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Been Here]Can we get alittle more details about her looks?[/QUOTE]

Yumi at Chalet, is early 20's, 5-5, slender, long dark hair almost to waist, smalk breasts, 8-9 face, nice spinner type body.

[QUOTE=Been Here]Was going to go chech out the new Royal cause I miss the old one and I RTFF but I just wanna make sure I got it right. Its close to Briarcliff & Clairmont? Use to be Golden Touch? Googled GTHS and got a address close to that. Any help?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

3040 Briarcliff Rd. NE
Atlanta, GA 30329

[QUOTE=Niteluvr]Atlanta, GA 30329[/QUOTE]Thanks. Thats the address I got from google. Just didn't want to post it. Guess it don't really matter if you can pull it up on google anyways. I'm going to go sometime in the next few days. I'll report my findings!

[QUOTE=Microcosm]Yumi at Chalet, is early 20's, 5-5, slender, long dark hair almost to waist, smalk breasts, 8-9 face, nice spinner type body.[/QUOTE]sounds like I might have to pay her a visit. Thanks for the info!

Some feed back would be helpful. Went to Midori last week. Joy came in took $40 house fee. Offered Youg as second girl since they were slow. Wanted another $40 house fee. Ok? Gave it. Had TS with Joy (the girl not the pleasure). Joy started rub down Young came in played with my feet some. Then they wanted 2 tips for further fun. Am I wrong or should one house fee and 2 tips cover it? I got up and left.

[QUOTE=Oneeyedpete]Some feed back would be helpful. Went to Midori last week. Joy came in took $40 house fee. Offered Youg as second girl since they were slow. Wanted another $40 house fee. Ok? Gave it. Had TS with Joy (the girl not the pleasure). Joy started rub down Young came in played with my feet some. Then they wanted 2 tips for further fun. Am I wrong or should one house fee and 2 tips cover it? I got up and left.[/QUOTE]

Did you bother to RTFF for at least a few pages? Young came in and only played with your feet? Then what happened? I'm about to bust out laughing.....

Stopped by Golden Touch this afternoon to see the new lineup. Unfortunately I forgot the name of the girl mamasan sent to the room but she looked pretty good, about 30-35 y.o., with curly hair, nice, natural tits and a typical Korean ass. There was another girl, Hanna, but she was with a customer so I didn't get a peek at her.

Mamasan mentioned a new girl would be coming later in the afternoon and just as I went out, I saw a Korean dude and a rather attractive woman show up, so I assume she's the new girl.

I asked mamasan about the supposed recent busts, but she said LE has only stopped in several times to check their business license.

Stopped by the former Ocean a few days ago. This place never does me wrong and this time was no exception. I got a very plainly dressed but really cute, petite spinner by the same of Kim (at the end of the session she told me her real name was Sarah). About 5'2" or so, no heavier than 100 lbs, Tiny tits with perfectly round little nips. Said she was 24 but looks younger actually. Probably the youngest AMP girl that I've slayed. Some kind of weird tat on her hip. Very casual also, had on a sweatshirt and some kind of simple dress underneath. I liked this.

She came into the room and was very polite but very reserved. We did the TS, which felt OK but she almost went out of her way not to touch my dick or my ass in a way that could possibly be perceived as sensual. I decided at that point that I'd just enjoy the massage and leave...until the end of the TS when the lightbulb went off: She was likely nervous about me being LE. Makes sense given the area and it's hostility to the hobby as of late. So when we got back to the massage portion, I decided to make it known that I was there for pussy. I freely let my hands wander up her thighs and over her ass, and eventually got her undressed. I actually found myself kissing this bytch on her neck and nibbling her ears like I was dating her. It was almost shameful. The boys would give me a hard time about kissing on some wh0re if they found out. lol. I love kissing wh0res. Anyway, the massage turned to almost endless foreplay. She seemed to get into it also, kissing my neck, licking my nipples, grabbing my dick, kissing my belly and thighs. I mean she really took her time. She then asked me if I wanted "everything." I said yes, and she signaled 200 by holding up two fingers. Told her I only had 130 (in addition to the $40 house fee) and she enthusiastically accepted. I knew she would, but I wasn't expecting her to do it with such glee. She excused herself and came back. More foreplay and then on to the covered BJ. I give her an "A" for effort, but it was nothing to write home about. I instructed her to climb aboard and she obliged, inserting me inside of her with some grimacing. It was a really tight fit, and took a couple ups and downs before we got to an acceptable pace. The wetness kicked in, and I was able to experience this really good Korean pussy unhindered. She rode cowgirl nice and slowly like a true champ, almost causing me to bust prematurely like an excited 17 year old. We moved on to mish, where I continued to slide in and out of her in a lovemakingly slow pace. I mean I'm almost ashamed to admit that I slow-dicked some AMP girl, but fuck you guys. The pussy was good and I was feeling the experience. I picked up the pace and delivered a solid pounding, but only about 15 seconds worth. I blew my very built up load inside of her inside the condom. One of those extended climaxes that I only get when I'm completely enjoying myself. Good time. I was there well over an hour, though I'm not sure exactly how much longer.

Cleaned me up with that hot towel and sent me on my way with some hugs and kisses. I rank this AMP experience somewhere at the top of my list. If the BJ was great, it would probably be the number 1. I fully intend to ask for her again on my next visit, but you know how that shit goes with these girls. Anyway, if you're asking for her, I think Sarah is the name you want to use. Probably just said her name was Kim in the beginning because she thought I was LE.

[QUOTE=Gaghoes]Stopped by the former Spring a few days ago. This place never does me wrong and this time was no exception. I got a very plainly dressed but really cute, petite spinner by the same of Kim (at the end of the session she told me her real name was Sarah). About 5'2" or so, no heavier than 100 lbs, Tiny tits with perfectly round little nips. Said she was 24 but looks younger actually. Probably the youngest AMP girl that I've slayed. Some kind of weird tat on her hip. Very casual also, had on a sweatshirt and some kind of simple dress underneath. I liked this.

She came into the room and was very polite but very reserved. We did the TS, which felt OK but she almost went out of her way not to touch my dick or my ass in a way that could possibly be perceived as sensual. I decided at that point that I'd just enjoy the massage and leave. Until the end of the TS when the lightbulb went off: She was likely nervous about me being LE. Makes sense given the area and it's hostility to the hobby as of late. So when we got back to the massage portion, I decided to make it known that I was there for pussy. I freely let my hands wander up her thighs and over her ass, and eventually got her undressed. I actually found myself kissing this bytch on her neck and nibbling her ears like I was dating her. It was almost shameful. The boys would give me a hard time about kissing on some wh0re if they found out. LOL. I love kissing wh0res. Anyway, the massage turned to almost endless foreplay. She seemed to get into it also, kissing my neck, licking my nipples, grabbing my dick, kissing my belly and thighs. I mean she really took her time. She then asked me if I wanted "everything. " I said yes, and she signaled 200 by holding up two fingers. Told her I only had 130 (in addition to the $40 house fee) and she enthusiastically accepted. I knew she would, but I wasn't expecting her to do it with such glee. She excused herself and came back. More foreplay and then on to the covered BJ. I give her an "A" for effort, but it was nothing to write home about. I instructed her to climb aboard and she obliged, inserting me inside of her with some grimacing. It was a really tight fit, and took a couple ups and downs before we got to an acceptable pace. The wetness kicked in, and I was able to experience this really good Korean pussy unhindered. She rode cowgirl nice and slowly like a true champ, almost causing me to bust prematurely like an excited 17 year old. We moved on to mish, where I continued to slide in and out of her in a lovemakingly slow pace. I mean I'm almost ashamed to admit that I slow-dicked some AMP girl, but fuck you guys. The pussy was good and I was feeling the experience. I picked up the pace and delivered a solid pounding, but only about 15 seconds worth. I blew my very built up load inside of her inside the condom. One of those extended climaxes that I only get when I'm completely enjoying myself. Good time. I was there well over an hour, though I'm not sure exactly how much longer.

Cleaned me up with that hot towel and sent me on my way with some hugs and kisses. I rank this AMP experience somewhere at the top of my list. If the BJ was great, it would probably be the number 1. I fully intend to ask for her again on my next visit, but you know how that shit goes with these girls. Anyway, if you're asking for her, I think Sarah is the name you want to use. Probably just said her name was Kim in the beginning because she thought I was LE.[/QUOTE]Former Spring? The one off of Cheshire Bridge?

I thought Green was on Roswell Road.

Had a session with Sarah a week ago as well. She is really nicely tight. Had a great session as well for $1. 6 including house. Its either Ruby or Sarah at Ocean for me. Both, oh so tight, but I think Ruby is on vacation for a bit.

FYI.

They have Sarah from Royal in her 20's

Ruby and? In their 30's

And Connie from Royal in her 40's

Wingdogg out.

[QUOTE=Smartazz]Former Spring? The one off of Cheshire Bridge?

I thought Green was on Roswell Road.[/QUOTE]

Gag's original post did say that Green (Sauna) is the former Ocean. Yes, it's on Roswell Rd.

I've always rated Green a notch below Royal (now Golden Touch) but if Green is luring former Royal girls to work there, maybe they give the girls a better cut of session fees or something. I personally think Ruby is kinda skanky and would love to see Kara return.

I'll be staying near the Atlanta AP, but have a car, while there for the bowl game. Are there any good FS AMPs within about 5 miles of the AP?

Any help will be greatly appreciated because good AMP experiences in the DC area are getting tougher to find all the time thanks to LE pressure.

Thanks,
Hammerin

[QUOTE=Niteluvr]Gag's original post did say that Green (Sauna) is the former Ocean. Yes, it's on Roswell Road.

I've always rated Green a notch below Royal (now Golden Touch) but if Green is luring former Royal girls to work there, maybe they give the girls a better cut of session fees or something. I personally think Ruby is kinda skanky and would love to see Kara return.[/QUOTE]He edited his post from Spring to Ocean. That is where the confussion came from. Either way. No big deal.

There used to be this one provider who worked at Royal. Gloria, I think, short with add on C's, she had the prettiest pussy I ever munched on. I love it when girls do the landing strip cut. That is such a turn on. Wondering where she is at now.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr]Gag's original post did say that Green (Sauna) is the former Ocean. Yes, it's on Roswell Rd.

I've always rated Green a notch below Royal (now Golden Touch) but if Green is luring former Royal girls to work there, maybe they give the girls a better cut of session fees or something. I personally think Ruby is kinda skanky and would love to see Kara return.[/QUOTE]
Correct. I fucked it up and went back and edited it.

[url]http://www.wsbtv.com/news/22040334/detail.html[/url] Anyone think that the almost victim was looking for more than a massage with this outcall gone wrong?

I've seen this woman twice she is a Jamaican transplant from Ct and both my sessions were good.

First time i saw her i got a massage and dome for $.80. Once fully oiled up she'll do a body to body massage which is nice and very relaxing.

Second time i saw her managed to get into the snatch for the low low of $ and would have enjoyed it if i was suffering from the cold or had zero sense of smell. That puss could have at least been dipped in the shower before i saw her so with that said am not going back.

I enjoyed the patios telling me to get that "pum pum good bwoy" but i didn't enjpy rushing home to shower as i had other shit lined up.

[QUOTE=Bizzy Muhn]I've seen this woman twice she is a Jamaican transplant from Ct and both my sessions were good.

First time i saw her i got a massage and dome for $.80. Once fully oiled up she'll do a body to body massage which is nice and very relaxing.

Second time i saw her managed to get into the snatch for the low low of $ and would have enjoyed it if i was suffering from the cold or had zero sense of smell. That puss could have at least been dipped in the shower before i saw her so with that said am not going back.

I enjoyed the patios telling me to get that "pum pum good bwoy" but i didn't enjpy rushing home to shower as i had other shit lined up.[/QUOTE]

Was she in the Hyatt on Peachtree Pkwy?

[QUOTE=Niteluvr]Was she in the Hyatt on Peachtree Pkwy?[/QUOTE]

Actually an apartment complex on Holcomb Bridge Rd GA 400.

[QUOTE=Bizzy Muhn]Actually an apartment complex on Holcomb Bridge Rd GA 400.[/QUOTE]

OK, I guess she changes locations at it suits her situation. Her kid in the room in the Hyatt, unattractive looks and several other factors turned me off when she opened the door; hence, I bolted. To me, her pics look much better than she does in person but, hey, if you enjoyed your stay, then good luck to you.

[QUOTE=Bizzy Muhn]

I enjoyed the patios telling me to get that "pum pum good bwoy" but i didn't enjpy rushing home to shower as i had other shit lined up.[/QUOTE]

That for some reason sounds hilarious! I wonder if I can call her and ask her to say that on the phone for me?