"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Castlerae;1412595]last message from her, she mentioned the possibility of bringing a girlfriend if we meet. And the strong possibility that we could end up 'playing' too.[/QUOTE]Dang Castle, I hope these babies didn't kidnap and hold you hostage on the first date. Lets hear it Brother, what went down; (or up)?

On another topic, the thread has been enhanced with the addition of SBabyBlog. Hoping that all things turn out her way today with her lunch and drinks, later this afternoon. Defintely enjoy your input here as well as reading your blog. Ciao

[QUOTE=Varoom;1413017]On another topic, the thread has been enhanced with the addition of SBabyBlog. Hoping that all things turn out her way today with her lunch and drinks, later this afternoon. Defintely enjoy your input here as well as reading your blog. Ciao[/QUOTE]Varoom. Thank you very much! I'm most certainly enjoying being able to learn your side of this world and talk a little about my side.

It has most certainly been an interesting 24-hours. Dance lessons with memories was fun. But, at dinner he got a text from a lifestyle couple he knows. He started talking to me about the couple and it turns out the husband of the couple is who I was scheduled to have drinks with tonight. That date has now been canceled.

And then, my lunch date was only so so. He's emailing me now asking if I have time to see him this afternoon, not sure what to do about that one.

On a better front, I may have a Potential Weekend SD. I emailed him last week, he responded that he was traveling but would get back to me when he was back in the area. Surprisingly he did this morning! E-mails are starting to be exchanged and I'm hoping we can schedule a meet soon.

Anyways, the crazy details are all already up on a blog post if you want to go read. [url]www.sugarbabystory.com[/url]

Enjoy!

Mandy

[QUOTE=Varoom;1413017]Dang Castle, I hope these babies didn't kidnap and hold you hostage on the first date. Lets hear it Brother, what went down; (or up)?[/QUOTE]So far, it's still in the negotiating phase, no firm plans to meet, no talk of what she might want in the way of sugar for this extraordinary offer either. She did say that any meet would have to be local to her, and seemed okay with the idea of me reserving a hotel room, which makes me wonder if she's not a semi-pro. Guess I'll see, as I messaged her tonight asking if she could be more specific about what she might want in the way of sugar and when she might want to meet. More details as they come in.

[QUOTE=Castlerae;1413467]She did say that any meet would have to be local to her, and seemed okay with the idea of me reserving a hotel room, which makes me wonder if she's not a semi-pro.[/QUOTE]I'd be inclined to go with your semi-pro diagnosis since she was mentioning a possible "3-way" in email even before a m&g. Doubtful that a true sb is going there. In fact, maybe the use of the term semi is too generous; but all conjecture is from too far a distance from the situation, so just offering rambling thoughts for now. Good luck.

[QUOTE=SbabyBlog;1413223]at dinner he got a text from a lifestyle couple he knows. He started talking to me about the couple and it turns out the husband of the couple is who I was scheduled to have drinks with tonight. That date has now been canceled.[/QUOTE]Mandy,

That is ironic, or is it? You didn't seem to entertain the idea that this untimely text at dinner could have been somehow orchestrated. No thought that memories would like to introduce the idea of "the lifestyle" with his sb and this couple, once you have approved him over drinks, of course? Seems suspect, but then call me skeptical. Love to hear your thoughts on this possibility, or was it pure irony? Is the world truly this small? Also interesting about the texts between mem's and his other lady friend; is this normal and acceptable in the relationship to be making other arrangements mid date, or something new? You have a very, very interesting life from the outward perimeter and curious to know as much as you are willing to divulge. V

To keep the story short I omitted a few things, that you hit on with your questions, so I'm happy to answer.

To begin with, Memories knows that my husband and I have had a number of experiences in the lifestyle, so he wouldn't really be introducing me to it. In fact, when he read the wife's text saying "they were downtown" I almost volunteered if he wanted to go meet them for drinks. In my mind, they were a lifestyle couple, it wouldn't be crazy for him to show up with me. And let me just say I'm so happy that I didn't suggest that.

However, given his immediate follow-up statement about the couple, I don't think he would have wanted to. He went on to tell me that they are "an awkward couple" and that some possessiveness tends to kick in with them. As a result memories said that he and his wife,"have never gone there".

As for the small lifestyle community, from what I can gather, memories plays in an extremely exclusive "club" with a group of other high net worth couples who think nothing of getting in their planes and flying to Vegas for a play weekend. So, yes, that circle is very small. In fact, had I originally known that pot was active in the lifestyle I would have ended the conversations there as he fits into that club quite well.

Now, there is a small chance they were all together over the weekend, I was mentioned, they realized the coincidence, and the whole text thing was staged. If that's the case then memories will quickly learn that I opted to not rock that boat and canceled my drinks date. Of course, this means that the pot knows he lost to memories and given memories comments about the couple that could cause some friction in the circle but I'm pretty certain memories can handle that one.

Now about the thing with the other girl. Memories has made it very clear that he dates other girls. This past week he did admit that while he might take them shopping occasionally, I'm the only one he helps financially. His comment was that from the second he met me he knew he wanted to help and kind of protect me. (insert aww sounds here).

Given that I'm very familiar with the world of open relationships and hey, I've even met my husbands girlfriend (no playing just a meet) it's not too foreign to me that he'd talk about someone else. Maybe in part it's to remind both of us to not get too close, maybe it's just part of the whole "game". I'm really not sure. I will say its one reason that I continue to search for an SD because I just honestly don't know how long he'll stay interested in me and want me around. I've written a few posts about this topic because I most certainly get mixed signals. Like at dinner, he brought up an extended weekend together somewhere in May. He wants to take my flying. Feel free to give an input, I'm at a loss for figuring it out and am just enjoying the moment.

And yes, my life certainly isn't boring. I'm happy to answer anything you're curious about. And, if I ever feel uncomfortable answering, I'll send you a pm explaining why.

Mandy

[QUOTE=Castlerae;1412595]she mentioned the possibility of bringing a girlfriend if we meet. And the strong possibility that we could end up 'playing' too. *definitely* going to have to see if I can land this nibbler.[/QUOTE]FYI, I'd be careful starting off with a threesome, for me this never works and it could be a setup of some kind. Now once you know the girl and are comfortable that's different

[QUOTE=Varoom;1413679]I'd be inclined to go with your semi-pro diagnosis since she was mentioning a possible "3-way" in email even before a m&g. Doubtful that a true sb is going there. In fact, maybe the use of the term semi is too generous; but all conjecture is from too far a distance from the situation, so just offering rambling thoughts for now. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'd tend to agree with you, but then again she said she was thinking of not telling her 'girlfriend' that she was hoping to collect some sugar from me for the meeting, so who knows. One thing for sure: she's gone "silent running" since then, so either she was scamming me or she found someone who wasn't asking as many questions as I was. Not a problem, as SB #2 sent me a long email saying she'd like to see me again, that of the men she'd met so far, I was the only one she'd enjoyed meeting. I told her the truth by way of reply, that I had more motives than just enjoying another meal with her, but I also told her I knew it was up to me to persuade her to go there. Guess I'll find out if 'I've got game' enough to get her there. Should be interesting.

Well, it's official, my weekend search for an SD is over. After a few days of some very explicit texting The Doctor has decided he'll find a way to push his emotions aside. And we can resume our extremely fun play weekends! I VERY much enjoyed them for a number of reasons so at the moment I'm so happy that I feel like a little girl on Christmas morning!

Mandy

I have done the 3 some route twice with Sb's. After talking with the initial SB's, I was comfortable that I was not walking into any type of set-up, and I was also not of the impression that they were pro's or semi-pro's. In both cases the conversation went something like this,"My friend is coming with me, are you interested in her joining in?" The first time I did it, the experience was just so so, and both girls were a bit too reserved for me to have a hot time. The second experience was much better in that the girls were into each other as well as taking care of daddy.

So I found this potential on SA. And she also had an add on whatsyourprice.

Ok I responded to the one on wyp. Even though there the real meeting ration has been horrible. Many 'accepted dates' not to be heard from after the 'date' was accepted. So she reacted after a month. Emails me her number. And low and behold what did her number bring up. A long ad on BP. So do your due diligence.

The best results I have had with SA

[QUOTE=SbabyBlog; 1414213]Well, it's official, my weekend search for an SD is over. After a few days of some very explicit texting The Doctor has decided he'll find a way to push his emotions aside. And we can resume our extremely fun play weekends! I VERY much enjoyed them for a number of reasons so at the moment I'm so happy that I feel like a little girl on Christmas morning!

Mandy[/QUOTE]Hopefully the two of you will have much fun together this weekend. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Dirty Dingus;1414404]I have done the 3 some route twice with Sb's. After talking with the initial SB's, I was comfortable that I was not walking into any type of set-up, and I was also not of the impression that they were pro's or semi-pro's. In both cases the conversation went something like this,"My friend is coming with me, are you interested in her joining in?" The first time I did it, the experience was just so so, and both girls were a bit too reserved for me to have a hot time. The second experience was much better in that the girls were into each other as well as taking care of daddy.[/QUOTE]I've never enjoyed a threesome myself, and I'm not sure I ever will at this pace. After a couple of days of silence, I finally heard back from "3some girl". She's claiming that there some sort of problem with her account, and her emails are getting deleted, etc, etc, etc. Still indicating she wants to meet, and still giving off the vibe of at least a semipro, as she's asking how much sugar we'd agreed to in return for a visit. Gave her one of my 'dead-drop' accounts and told her if she wants to continue negotiations, she can contact me there. So the next move is hers, and I somehow doubt she's going to send me anything.

SB #2 is in touch though, and indicating she's interested in moving beyond the m&g stage. I don't think this is going to be a case of the next time I see her, we'll adjourn to the FC, but she's giving all the signs of being willing to end up there eventually.

[QUOTE=EuroInCincy; 1414984]. So do your due diligence.[/QUOTE]So I am emailing and texting this thirty-something MILF, doing the usual dance, and after gathering enough information, do my standard Google search. And lo and behold what turns up: her mugshots! And not just one, but two different pictures for two separate incidences in another state! At first I was shocked. But as I thought back over the bits of info she gave me, it kinda made sense that this could at least be a possibility. Sorry, not into ex-cons.

Lesson: Push the little guy aside long enough to ALWAYS do a background check. It may save you tons of grief in the future.

Stay safe.

Strict

Gentleman,

Just like I've helped several of you though e-mail, I have a new SB that I've been talking with. Recently she read the post on my blog where a guy asked for honest feedback about why I didn't respond to him so she thought she would do the same.

The guy obliged and was VERY honest. But I don't agree with some of the things he said she should change in her profile so I wanted to get your opinions and thoughts. I do have to tell you that she is a larger black girl (I believed mixed with island). She does know her weight is an issue and is working on it. Additionally, she's a student that's just about to finish undergrad and wants to go to law school.

So, here's his response:

Ok, you seem like a decent person. You're asking a question so I'll give you a partial response: I think your response rate will be a LOT higher if you could make lifestyle changes to get really skinny.

Please, don't be upset with me for saying that. All of us on here can make some improvements to our lives. You specifically asked me for my opinion. Otherwise, I would never have given it to you.

Also, I would suggest you put in your profile:

1) say what your complete ethnic background is. Some men will strongly care. Others won't. But, by doing this, you'll weed out a lot of guys who would just waste your time. You'll keep the interest of guys who don't care or prefer your ethnic background.

2) say whether or not you have kids. Having kids is always serious baggage. If you don't have kids, feel free to brag about it.

3) just get rid of a lot of other stuff in your profile and make it a lot shorter and easier to read. Initially, we don't care if you go to law school or what your educational / occupational plans are or will be. All we first care about is how attractive your face is and whether you are height / weight proportionate (preferably, as thin as possible). All of us on the site are superficial. Men care (on average) more about looks. Women care (on average) more about money. This isn't eharmony.

4) you may have heard from movies or tv shows that people should care about personality or intelligence in women. Men only care about that stuff if we want a longer term relationship.

What are your thoughts on all of this?

Thanks!

Mandy