I'm A Poorly Uneducated White Boy
[QUOTE=Muncher2323;5477557]Imagine being so poorly educated about the political spectrum that you think pelosi, Biden, and Schumer are leftists and not just center right liberals. Which is what classical liberalism is and what American liberals actually are, Center-right.[/QUOTE]I admit to not having a formal education in Political Science. My interests have traditionally been focused on engineering, science, psychology and medicine. But, to exist in today's world, one must have some appreciation of politics and its history.
I will point out that in your referring to me as: "Imagine being so poorly educated about the political spectrum", you exemplified Mr. Sowell's proposition in quotation number two. And I'm sure you also meant to describe contemporary American Liberalism as Center-Left, not Center-Right.
The term Liberalism has had a fluid meaning since its emergence in the 17th century.
Even the ideas embodied in America's Conservative movement fall under the original meaning of American Liberalism. American Liberalism took a turn to the left under Roosevelt, incorporating elements of Social Liberalism, with the passing of the New Deal and other social programs in the 1930's. It lurched further left with the passing of Johnson's Great Society programs in the 1960's. Today, it appears to be lurching further left with more social programs and intervention in Americans' everyday lives than ever. As a prime example, I offer the contentious Critical Race Theory push that is endorsed by virtually every Democrat in government. Then there is the virtually unanimous Democratic support of BLM, a clearly Marxist organization. I doubt most people read their manifesto when it was originally posted on the web. It clearly espoused at least some Marxist ideology and a few of the founders admitted they were trained Marxists.
I agree that, in years past, Biden, Pelosi and Schumer, hell most Democrats, could have been described as Center-Left and not leftist or left-leaning. Either in response to the increasingly leftward winds in the Democratic Party or, perhaps they're now free to show their true beliefs, they are pushing for evermore socially liberal programs and government intervention in everyday Americans' lives. Again, CRT is a prime example. Promoters of CRT are trying to "re-educate" American children by telling them that, if you're white, you are intrinsically guilty of being a racist, not because of anything you actually believe or have done, but because some, not all mind you, but some white people treated Blacks as property in centuries past.
Biden, Pelosi and Schumer are not the most left-leaning Democrats. Sanders, The Squad, Warren, Harris and a few others are more dangerous IMHO. But, those three are in leadership positions and they are supporting left-leaning or leftist policies, either out of fear of being un-elected or because they are believers finally willing to show their true colors.
At least that is my take on affairs.
You Are What Is Wrong With The Left. And America In General
[QUOTE=BengalMan;5478990]Rogerover is so right it's almost not fair. Intellectualism is no longer part of what used to be the Republican Party, you know, the one with all the country club bankers. Now it's just a bunch of ignorant racists who barely finished high school. Sad, sad, sad.[/QUOTE]So instead of actually reading & debating on facts or events, you stoop down to insulting the intelligence of the 60 million or so people who vote different than you. The name calling is middle school shit. This is exactly what is wrong with us in general. Instead of learning from each other's points of view or possibly agreeing to disagree, you resort to childish name calling.
On a side note. It's probably for the best you get to hide behind your keyboard. If you had said this to my face, chewing solid food would no longer be in your future plans.
