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Sop
I ran a (legit) shop with my partner in Chicago for several years. Moved here in 2019 and sold the Chicago shop. Will open here (Temecula or nearby) in the spring after things get safer.
So, to your point, this sounds like a situation we used to see from time to time, and I (wearing my monger hat) would sometimes do as well. If the girl wants the owner to believe she gave a non-happy (legit) massage she would want the owner to se her getting a measly $20 tip. They would often collect the $20 tip in front of the front room camera. Just a con job on the boss or to deliberately create some "evidence" of a $20 tip for the camera.
I never went to your shop so I don't really know the reputation. But many girls want to create the illusion they are just collecting small tips.
Bob.
[QUOTE=Maiko;5162239]Visited Relaxing Message in the sports arena area.
It is located near the MCRD and old Midway post office. Paid 50 for an hour of full body message and hot stone message. Since I walked / snuck in when they opened, I got the only girl there. Her name was Yoyo and she looked to be in her late 30's. She was sensual as hell. Gave a great hard message and was great with with the hot stones. A lot of teasing on the ass and balls when she was messaging my back. She did allow roaming all over on her clothes. On the flip she removed her top and let me play with her boobs. She gentle massaged my chest and did more teasing on junior and the sack. This worked up to a HE. The tip was. 5 for the HE. Only weird thing was she only took 30 in the room and told me to give the other 20 outside where her boss could see her.[/QUOTE]
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Dividing the cash?
[QUOTE=Bob521;5162271]I ran a (legit) shop with my partner in Chicago for several years. Moved here in 2019 and sold the Chicago shop. Will open here (Temecula or nearby) in the spring after things get safer.
So, to your point, this sounds like a situation we used to see from time to time, and I (wearing my monger hat) would sometimes do as well. If the girl wants the owner to believe she gave a non-happy (legit) massage she would want the owner to se her getting a measly $20 tip. They would often collect the $20 tip in front of the front room camera. Just a con job on the boss or to deliberately create some "evidence" of a $20 tip for the camera.
I never went to your shop so I don't really know the reputation. But many girls want to create the illusion they are just collecting small tips.
Bob.[/QUOTE]I thought most places split the tip and girl got possibly part of house fee so we're more upfront!
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I think very few places the girl splits the tip.
It's almost always the case that the tip belongs to the girl and she may or may not get a piece of the house fee depending on the shop and the services offered.
The only exception that I've seen firsthand is a Thai place (no longer around) where the girl was giving some of her tips to the boss. But I think there was repaying of some personal debts going on and it was not the standard practice.
I had known the owner for a couple years and would usually chat with her about Thailand for a few minutes after a session. It was during this time when the girl that had just taking care of me came in and handed some money to the boss. In response to my curious look, she just said she " give back".
[QUOTE=Dctex99;5162715]I thought most places split the tip and girl got possibly part of house fee so we're more upfront![/QUOTE]
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Relax Spa in Oceanside
Previously it had been suggested to me that I should pay this place a visit. Located In a shopping plaza on Oceanside Boulevard and I 5, it's location is very visible as it's right next to a T-Mobile store and the drive-through for a Starbucks. But honestly I was tired, it had a really bad day and just decided to walk straight in and see If I couldn't improve my day.
Oceanside has not typically been much more than rub and tug place for me, typically where if you can get service at all it's usually an older providers. I walked in with a fairly low expectations and was immediately greeted by Mimi. Mid 20's petite Wearing a simple short dress. First impressions were very positive, definitely not a GILF But an attractive young Chinese girl. Her English isn't that good but she walked me to the room and asked me did I want to half hour or an hour. I was still tired and stressed out thinking I was just going to get a decent massage so I opted for one hour I and paid the $60 house fee. She briefly left the room so I got undressed and was face down on the table.
When she came back into the room I really got a better sense as to what a nice body she has so I gently ran my hand up her leg and feeling no resistance started to run my fingers over that very beautiful small petite ass. The first few minutes of the massage was nothing more than some rubbing and pressing thru the towel when she finally started to use oil I was no longer focussed on a massage, i really just wanted to unwrap this beautiful present.
I still wasn't sure what was on the menu so I gently reached over and started nibbling and kissing her ass, and after a few moments of gentle play she asked me did I want hot towel and turnover over. After she clean me up we discuss the menu options. She made the hand shake gesture asking me if I wanted an HJ But after my playful explorations I definitely decided I wanted everything, Her English isn't that good But offered 120 which she accepted ,paid in advance. After I reached in my wallet and I handed her the donations She briefly left for a minute, returned with supplies. When she lifted off The dress she been wearing reveal nearly perfect body. Clean shaven, soft nice skin and absolutely lovely breasts perfectly proportioned her her frame.
This is an important point to bring up, she kept the mask on the whole time. During this pandemic I definitely appreciate the girls are already taking a risk by making themselves accessible so I had no problems with her keeping the mask on the whole time. That means there was no CBJ but I was definitely enjoying just kissing and caressing her beautiful soft natural boobs. As the session went on she definitely warmed up and became more comfortable with me in very quickly she slipped on a cover and we proceeded to really work up a sweat. She genuinely seem to be enjoying the feeling and we made eye contact which I thought was even more sexy with the mask on. Because she's a small little girl I started off very slow and gentle slipping inside her but soon picked up the pace with a nice slow steady pounding. Definitely One of the youngest cutest girls to take care of me in a long time.
After a couple of minutes of "activity" we finished and a little cleanup, She left the room. I was so relaxed I actually went to sleep for a minute or so until she came back and finished giving me a head leg and foot massage.
Definitely a lovely girl, next time I'll probably just go for a half hour but this lovely little beauty is definitely worth repeating.
on the way out I gave her an extra $20 tip so total damage was $60 for one hour house fee +140 to the girl.
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I went to 108
Hey guys I went to 108 today.
There is this new girl in her 20's.
She is pretty good.
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[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;5163928]Previously it had been suggested to me that I should pay this place a visit. Located In a shopping plaza on Oceanside Boulevard and I 5, it's location is very visible as it's right next to a T-Mobile store and the drive-through for a Starbucks. But honestly I was tired, it had a really bad day and just decided to walk straight in and see If I couldn't improve my day.
Oceanside has not typically been much more than rub and tug place for me, typically where if you can get service at all it's usually an older providers. I walked in with a fairly low expectations and was immediately greeted by Mimi. Mid 20's petite Wearing a simple short dress. First impressions were very positive, definitely not a GILF But an attractive young Chinese girl. Her English isn't that good but she walked me to the room and asked me did I want to half hour or an hour. I was still tired and stressed out thinking I was just going to get a decent massage so I opted for one hour I and paid the $60 house fee. She briefly left the room so I got undressed and was face down on the table.
When she came back into the room I really got a better sense as to what a nice body she has so I gently ran my hand up her leg and feeling no resistance started to run my fingers over that very beautiful small petite ass. The first few minutes of the massage was nothing more than some rubbing and pressing thru the towel when she finally started to use oil I was no longer focussed on a massage, i really just wanted to unwrap this beautiful present.
I still wasn't sure what was on the menu so I gently reached over and started nibbling and kissing her ass, and after a few moments of gentle play she asked me did I want hot towel and turnover over. After she clean me up we discuss the menu options. She made the hand shake gesture asking me if I wanted an HJ But after my playful explorations I definitely decided I wanted everything, Her English isn't that good But offered 120 which she accepted ,paid in advance. After I reached in my wallet and I handed her the donations She briefly left for a minute, returned with supplies. When she lifted off The dress she been wearing reveal nearly perfect body. Clean shaven, soft nice skin and absolutely lovely breasts perfectly proportioned her her frame.
This is an important point to bring up, she kept the mask on the whole time. During this pandemic I definitely appreciate the girls are already taking a risk by making themselves accessible so I had no problems with her keeping the mask on the whole time. That means there was no CBJ but I was definitely enjoying just kissing and caressing her beautiful soft natural boobs. As the session went on she definitely warmed up and became more comfortable with me in very quickly she slipped on a cover and we proceeded to really work up a sweat. She genuinely seem to be enjoying the feeling and we made eye contact which I thought was even more sexy with the mask on. Because she's a small little girl I started off very slow and gentle slipping inside her but soon picked up the pace with a nice slow steady pounding. Definitely One of the youngest cutest girls to take care of me in a long time.
After a couple of minutes of "activity" we finished and a little cleanup, She left the room. I was so relaxed I actually went to sleep for a minute or so until she came back and finished giving me a head leg and foot massage.
Definitely a lovely girl, next time I'll probably just go for a half hour but this lovely little beauty is definitely worth repeating.
on the way out I gave her an extra $20 tip so total damage was $60 for one hour house fee +140 to the girl.[/QUOTE]Haven't seen, or given, a quality review like this one in a while. Way to set an example my guy, and thank you for the review. I got to pay this place a visit!
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[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;5163928]Previously it had been suggested to me that I should pay this place a visit. Located In a shopping plaza on Oceanside Boulevard and I 5, it's location is very visible as it's right next to a T-Mobile store and the drive-through for a Starbucks. But honestly I was tired, it had a really bad day and just decided to walk straight in and see If I couldn't improve my day.
Oceanside has not typically been much more than rub and tug place for me, typically where if you can get service at all it's usually an older providers.
I walked in with a fairly low expectations and was immediately greeted by Mimi. Mid 20's petite Wearing a simple short dress...
This is an important point to bring up, she kept the mask on the whole time... That means there was no CBJ but I was definitely enjoying just kissing and caressing her beautiful soft natural boobs.
As the session went on she definitely warmed up and became more comfortable with me in very quickly she slipped on a cover and we proceeded to really work up a sweat.
She genuinely seem to be enjoying the feeling and we made eye contact which I thought was even more sexy with the mask on.
Because she's a small little girl I started off very slow and gentle slipping inside her but soon picked up the pace with a nice slow steady pounding.
Definitely One of the youngest cutest girls to take care of me in a long time.
After a couple of minutes of "activity" we finished and a little cleanup, She left the room.
I was so relaxed I actually went to sleep for a minute or so until she came back and finished giving me a head leg and foot massage.
Definitely a lovely girl, next time I'll probably just go for a half hour but this lovely little beauty is definitely worth repeating.
on the way out I gave her an extra $20 tip so total damage was $60 for one hour house fee +140 to the girl.[/QUOTE]Excellent Review Brother!
-But did you happen to forget anything? . according to your RM Review, you selected DATY as a provided service.
Hey, there's no shame in our game. So, tell us -How did she Taste?
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Delicious
Most of my RM reviews are shorter than what I post here but the check the boxes format can give a lot of details.
She seemed a little hesitant and it was brief but she was very tasty 😋
[QUOTE=PegasusZX;5164807]Excellent Review Brother!
-But did you happen to forget anything? . according to your RM Review, you selected DATY as a provided service.
Hey, there's no shame in our game. So, tell us -How did she Taste?[/QUOTE].
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Rainbow
So, recently checked out this place early one evening. Was probably around 7 pm, saw two vehicles with guys sitting in them in the parking lot, but I just parked and went in. Not much activity otherwise. Pretty discrete, not visible from the road, small parking lot, but plenty of open spaces. Texted the number in the ad and had a very responsive person on the other end. Told them what time I wanted to come and then texted when I was about 20, then 5, minutes away. Ended up drawing Sophie or Sophia (not sure). Wore regular yoga style pants, loose top. Wasn't fat, but wasn't tight and lean either. Mask the entire time. Ok english. Pretty good, decent strength massage, average technique. Could tell she had an idea of what a deep tissue massage should be (what I asked for to the person on the phone), but she was obviously not formally trained.
Started face down, towel on, massage through the towel. Then the towel gradually went down as she worked on my back, then glutes, then all the way off as she started on the upper legs. She gradually brushed deep in the crack and I opened up / lifted and she started heavy teasing. I kept giving more access and the teasing persisted. Eventually I felt like I was going to pop face down, so I got up and she continued teasing from behind with one hand and helping up front with the other. And she kept going, and going, it got a bit too intense. Anyways, still had about 25 minutes left. So I flipped and she started on the head, feet, legs. I tried hard to get junior up again, and with about 10 minutes left I start grazing her legs again, she gets the message and peaks under the towel and goes to work. Managed to get a second pop, much to her surprise. She seemed happy and excited to get two. She helped clean me up and I was on my way. 60 house, 50 tip. No complaints or discussion of money throughout.
Heard more was available here, but nothing offered, and I didn't try.
[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/192144[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TJDog;5160581]I'm baffled by this place. Been there three times and had three darned good massages. But not a hint of even a tease. Yet, I look at Rubmaps and there seem to be a ton of reviews (not a member, so can't actually read them). My experience has been that lots of reviews on Rubmaps equals more than just a massage.
Anybody have a different experience there? Feel free to PM me if you want to keep it on the QT.[/QUOTE]There is more than one place with this name, though I think both are owned by the same people.
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Split the tip
Well, I can't say every place is that way, but all the girls I knew in Chicago would split the door with the owner and keep 100% of the tip. So our door fee was $60 with $30 going to the girl, plus she kept the tip. However California might be a little different. The new law in Cali has largely eliminated 1099 income and replaced it with W2 income. Uber got a carve out with the recent proposition. But. As it stands now a full time worker, working under her name as a massage therapist can't be 1099. Has to be W2. So the shop includes a tip component in the W2 "Wages and Tips" line. Since we haven't owned a shop here in Cali yet can't say for sure, but my partner did work a little but last year and her boss arbitrarily assigned a tip amount on which she was taxed. So. That's a long-winded way of saying perhaps the girls don't want their owner to know the full amount of their tips so that those tips wouldn't be counted by the owner as part of their taxable income. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who is familiar with the common practice in California so that when we open we'll be abiding by common local practice.
Wasn't that a dull report! But, its worth a thought. Give your girl half the tip in private and the other half in front of the owner. You might be saving her some taxes.
Take care. Bob.
[QUOTE=Dctex99;5162715]I thought most places split the tip and girl got possibly part of house fee so we're more upfront![/QUOTE]
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Shorted on time
[QUOTE=RyanE36;5165722]So, recently checked out this place early one evening. Was probably around 7 pm, saw two vehicles with guys sitting in them in the parking lot, but I just parked and went in. Not much activity otherwise. Pretty discrete, not visible from the road, small parking lot, but plenty of open spaces. Texted the number in the ad and had a very responsive person on the other end. Told them what time I wanted to come and then texted when I was about 20, then 5, minutes away. Ended up drawing Sophie or Sophia (not sure). Wore regular yoga style pants, loose top. Wasn't fat, but wasn't tight and lean either. Mask the entire time. Ok english. Pretty good, decent strength massage, average technique. Could tell she had an idea of what a deep tissue massage should be (what I asked for to the person on the phone), but she was obviously not formally trained.
Started face down, towel on, massage through the towel. Then the towel gradually went down as she worked on my back, then glutes, then all the way off as she started on the upper legs. She gradually brushed deep in the crack and I opened up / lifted and she started heavy teasing. I kept giving more access and the teasing persisted. Eventually I felt like I was going to pop face down, so I got up and she continued teasing from behind with one hand and helping up front with the other. And she kept going, and going, it got a bit too intense. Anyways, still had about 25 minutes left. So I flipped and she started on the head, feet, legs. I tried hard to get junior up again, and with about 10 minutes left I start grazing her legs again, she gets the message and peaks under the towel and goes to work. Managed to get a second pop, much to her surprise. She seemed happy and excited to get two.[/QUOTE]I went here once a few months back. When I pulled up there was one other car in the lot, an older woman, 40 ish, sitting in her car. She got up and headed inside and I followed her in. I only saw her and a younger woman who was sitting on a loveseat. I paid the 60 for an hour and was escorted to a room. The older one comes in 10 minutes later. She gives an average massage, tells me to flip and just goes right for the HJ with out asking or mentioning anything. After I finish she leaves to grabs a towel, returns to wipe me off, and then leaves again saying okay all done. It's been 35 minutes since I entered the place. I lay on the table thinking did she think I said half hour? She returns 5 minutes later and ask if everything is good. I say didn't I pay for an hour? She says yes it's been an hour. I show her the timer that I had going on my phone, I always time them for reasons like this. She says she's tired and it's hot in there. I say okay and get dressed. She asked me for a tip and I said her tip is to give the full hour next time. She kept harassing me and followed me out of the room saying "tip, tip, why no tip?" I told her I am not tipping her for half the time that I paid for. She then said to return to the room and she would give me more time. At this point I was over it so I responded by saying a half hour is 40, so I gave you a 20 for a tip and then I left.
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Mission Valley
Checked the place out on Camino del Rio.
It's been showing up a lot on rr, so I was curious.
It's in a pretty big building with a lot of foot traffic.
One girl was working. Pretty short (5 ft ish), Chinese girl who kind of looked Filipino.
She had an OK body, but nice legs.
I paid everything upfront bc she asked for it. And she got straight to business. I felt a bit cheated out bc we were done and she didn't even do any massage at all.
40+1. 4 was the total dmg. I don't think I'd repeat based on the no massage part.
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Nicely played
Well done and for shorting your original time, I'd say you were more than generous.
[QUOTE=JaySdMac;5166927]I went here once a few months back. When I pulled up there was one other car in the lot, an older woman, 40 ish, sitting in her car. She got up and headed inside and I followed her in. I only saw her and a younger woman who was sitting on a loveseat. I paid the 60 for an hour and was escorted to a room. The older one comes in 10 minutes later. She gives an average massage, tells me to flip and just goes right for the HJ with out asking or mentioning anything. After I finish she leaves to grabs a towel, returns to wipe me off, and then leaves again saying okay all done. It's been 35 minutes since I entered the place. I lay on the table thinking did she think I said half hour? She returns 5 minutes later and ask if everything is good. I say didn't I pay for an hour? She says yes it's been an hour. I show her the timer that I had going on my phone, I always time them for reasons like this. She says she's tired and it's hot in there. I say okay and get dressed. She asked me for a tip and I said her tip is to give the full hour next time. She kept harassing me and followed me out of the room saying "tip, tip, why no tip?" I told her I am not tipping her for half the time that I paid for. She then said to return to the room and she would give me more time. At this point I was over it so I responded by saying a half hour is 40, so I gave you a 20 for a tip and then I left.[/QUOTE]
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Lusk Ema
I believe she said her was Ema. Chinese, nice Bcups, hairy kitten. Too skinny for my taste. During Mish her pubic bone kept hitting me and stopping me from going deeper. Not much vocals, just hums. Another girl was there, shorter, more meat on her bones, and better looking! Won't repeat with this one but If I could get the other girl, then maybe yes.
I got there around 11 ish. I was only there for fun. It's hard to find a good massage and fun at the same place.
Stopped by 108 to see that new girl and yes she looks young, petite, Chinese girl, shy and playful. If anybody has had her please inform us of the good and bad.
If I could combine Cici from leisure and that Korean girl from moon, I would visit that girl every weekend!!