Couple things to unpack here
[QUOTE=PRMan12;6928363]She is real and has a kid wants $$ upfront, which I do not do.
Question for the board, has anyone done $ upfront for anything and it was not a scam?? Whether it be gas $ or something upfront? Just curious if I have missed on a few, because of my no $ upfront policy, in fact do not use any electronic forms of $.[/QUOTE]1) Never, ever pay upfront. This includes prior to meeting them, as well as for a simple platonic M&G. Don't know why guys think that's a great idea in any way. For anyone claiming it worked for them, feel free to refute & share who you've charmed in such a way. But the chances are incredibly minuscule that this approach pans out. Most women on Seeking are out to do the bare minimum whilst maximizing the benjamins they can draw out of johns. So if [B]anyone[/B] engages in the aforementioned nonsense then acts surprised when their girl cash-and-dashes or makes up an excuse as to why the arrangement won't work, then with all disrespect, said person [B]deserves[/B] to be parted with their money.
[QUOTE=PRMan12;6926185]I am a newbie, I am dreaming but have been putting in the time and effort. Have a lot to report, and have also read the last 250 posts and learned the search engine tool, which I use all the time.
In last 2 months, have had a dream with 25 or so and am talking to another 15. However that is out of 200+ conversations. Currently have 10-12 that I have or would dream again regularly. I prefer variety. Willing to share and will, but want this board to show some life. It's very time consuming, but have a good method now. Tons of scammers, but now good at early detection.
Lets all make an effort to report, ask and share. If I'm out of line here, then seniors please let me know. Anyone who wants to share, can dm as well.[/QUOTE]2) You can't seriously be asking for guidance when you've supposedly got the game down already. The way it works here is a user shares, then others share in kind (be it in the forum at large, or in private messages). If a SB that I engage with isn't worth the headache (be it her ghosting, running a scam, or asking some ridiculous PPM / allowance), I share with everyone. And if I've met them personally and it's not worth the time or money, or if I'm simply through with them (like in the case with ObscureFifi in the Baltimore forums), I again share with everyone. That's how these forums have always operated.
Bottom line: share your experiences of the ones you're finished with & don't plan on seeing again. If you plan to see any of them in the future, by all means keep those close to the chest. No one here would fault you for that. I myself used to have a few college-aged regulars who were a fantastic time that I never shared (two in particular who's only ask was a bite to eat, a hotel room, and junior to play with). But if you're just going to offer a not-so-humble brag about your conquests without anything of substance for us to work with, then how can you expect others to share with you? Sorry, but that's not how this works. As you pointed out earlier, you're a self-professed "newbie. " [B]You have to earn credibility, give before receiving.[/B] Just saying, man.
No money upfront, no first dates at a restaurant
[QUOTE=PRMan12;6928363]She is real and has a kid wants $$ upfront, which I do not do.
Question for the board, has anyone done $ upfront for anything and it was not a scam?? Whether it be gas $ or something upfront? Just curious if I have missed on a few, because of my no $ upfront policy, in fact do not use any electronic forms of $.[/QUOTE]Everyone has already said this, but no never give any money upfront. Never pay for a meet and greet before after during or ever.
I have also learned to never agree to a first date at a restaurant. It is extra money that does not need to be spent and takes too long if you need to leave for some reason (cat fished, BSC baby, etc.). Coffee shops are fine for a first meet, do not cost much, and typically you pay for the coffee when you order so no waiting around to pay the waiter if you need to leave. There are stories on here of SB's getting expensive meals out of SD's with no intention of going to the FC and SD's being catfished and stuck in a restaurant for an hour or longer with a fugly chick.
A middleaged single female coworker and I were discussing online dating recently and she told me that some of her single friends just go on the vanilla sites to get expensive meals out of guys with no intention of actually dating. This happens everywhere so always meet somewhere inexpensive and easy to leave.
As I can't depend to my text until it posts
[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;6572642]Thanks so much, Rudy. It's tough man. Some of these seeking girls are so damn hot. I've met some 8's and 9's for sure but can't seem to get out of my own head and pull the trigger. I'm 42 years old, been married 15 years and haven't had sex with my wife more than 50 times in all those years. There is only so much you can do on your own or visit only so many massage parlors for a handy. I'm scared as hell to bring some disease home. Maybe I don't know enough about communicable or blood borne diseases which is making me more nervous than I should be. Even with the use of condoms. Some of the girls I've met actually say they prefer exclusive arrangements and are asking for anywhere between $400 - $800 PPM or $2,500 - a whopping $7,000 for an exclusive monthly arrangement!! Who knows if they are saying the same to multiple SDs. I don't have time to date in the traditional sense or go on Tinder, Bumble or the other umpteen dating sites. I really appreciate your being so candid and wish you all the best.[/QUOTE]Clarification. Always negotiate PPM via text. Have literally never left a restaurant and not headed to a hotel same date, save 1. And second date and after we're all in a hotel.
