"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=GAkinky;6619203]I'm not sure what type life crisis I'm going through, but I have fallen in love with damn SB from Seeking. I knew I should have stuck to young and dumb. Been in the sugar world about 12 years so I'm not a newbie. Both of us are married and I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual. Need someone to talk some sense into me.[/QUOTE]Trust me. I have been there. But in the end luckily for me, my SBs never said they loved me to be honest or I realized they did not "love me". They certainly had good connection with me. But I struggled with leaving my SO and my kid. If I had not married it would have been different. But anyways. Please share more details on your fact pattern. Like how old are you? How old is your SB? How old are your kids with your SO? Can you afford living comfortably if you divorce and have a meaningful life with your kids? I find most guys on this site are pretty good. I feel like most men have a natural tendency to look for sex more than women, again it's hard to say no to some young hot and in shape hotties for few dollars of fun. Unlike escorts the SB case is different to say no to. As it walks the gray line of pseudo lover!

[QUOTE=GAkinky;6619203]I'm not sure what type life crisis I'm going through, but I have fallen in love with damn SB from Seeking. I knew I should have stuck to young and dumb. Been in the sugar world about 12 years so I'm not a newbie. Both of us are married and I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual. Need someone to talk some sense into me.[/QUOTE]Always keep this in your mind. Your SB had sex with you for money. She will have sex with others for money. Either now or in the future. Your wife did not. Wives can be pretty brutal though so this really depends on your home situation.

[QUOTE=DocHolliday35;6620470]Always keep this in your mind. Your SB had sex with you for money. She will have sex with others for money. Either now or in the future. Your wife did not. Wives can be pretty brutal though so this really depends on your home situation.[/QUOTE]Really? He puts a roof over his wife's head, puts her in some wheels, and does all the things she wants that cost him $. How many females out there do you think would sleep w / you if you were damn flat broke?

If I figured a 'PPM' for my SO, it would be way way more than I have ever given any SB.

There is clearly an exchange of wealth for sex in a vast majority of male. Female relationships. Unless you are a rock star or look like Brad Pitt, there is no such thing as free pussy.

If if gets better than home Run. She is likely not in love with you. She is likely in love with your money. She is cheating on her husband with you what the hell do you think she's going to do to you? She is saying how good she can have it with you versus the guy with. He may be part of the scam.

[QUOTE=GAkinky;6619203]I'm not sure what type life crisis I'm going through, but I have fallen in love with damn SB from Seeking. I knew I should have stuck to young and dumb. Been in the sugar world about 12 years so I'm not a newbie. Both of us are married and I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual. Need someone to talk some sense into me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GAkinky]I'm not sure what type life crisis I'm going through, but I have fallen in love with damn SB from Seeking. I knew I should have stuck to young and dumb. Been in the sugar world about 12 years so I'm not a newbie. Both of us are married and I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual. Need someone to talk some sense into me.[/QUOTE]Been there, done that. It's not that uncommon really.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6620265]But I never even considered giving away half my assets in a divorce and alienating my kid over it.[/QUOTE]This was the key consideration for me as well.

For context, my marriage isn't terrible, in fact by most standards it's perfectly OK. We get along very well and never fight. But my wife doesn't give me the attention or affection I want and need, and over time she got tired of me encouraging her to do so and I got tired of asking. So eventually I decided I would look elsewhere and Seeking is where I wound up. I have had my fair share of "normal" SB experiences over the years, but my main goal has always been to find a younger woman that wanted a dating relationship with an older man, was comfortable doing so discreetly, and wasn't looking for any direct financial compensation.

My first dip in the pool started when I was 38, she was 21. Everything was going really well, but about a year in she started making noise about leaving my wife and settling down with her. I had young kids at home so that was NEVER going to happen. That relationship ended poorly when I told her I wouldn't leave, although she came back around a couple of years later after she got married and we stay in touch pretty regularly now.

I did absolutely learn a lot in that experience and used those lessons to change my approach to the next relationship. Girlfriend #2 was 21, I was 41. I let her know up front on our very first date that I was never, ever going to leave my wife for her. She was 100% good with that, she told me she wouldn't want to date a married man who would ever be open to leaving. So having established those ground rules up front, we were always open and honest with each other about where we stood, and I made it a point to check in occasionally to make sure she was keeping our relationship in a healthy place (that is, not getting too attached). I made her promise she would tell me when she felt like it was time for her to move on to the next phase in her life. We saw each other exclusively for 4+ years and had an amazing time together. We got extremely close, and in all honesty it was the best relationship of my life. She was a keeper. In another life we would have been great together. But that wasn't in the cards for either of us. That one ended 5 years ago, she's very happily married now and doing great. We still have dinner every year on the anniversary of our first date. She's very special to me, I'm sure we'll always be close.

Fast forward a few years and now I'm now involved with my third girlfriend. This time I was 48 and she was 25 when it started. Again, same approach as the last one. I was very transparent about what I wanted and what the rules were. I don't know how I found this girl but damn she's a unicorn of the highest order. I'm just going to leave it at that. We've been seeing each other for two years. She's an incredibly smart, beautiful trophy girlfriend that any guy here would objectively rate a solid 9. She's smart and capable, very career focused and on her way to being successful in her own right. We have a great relationship and always enjoy our time together. The best part is her sexual appetite. It's incredible. She can't get enough and isn't shy about letting me know. She makes the drive to see me as often as I'll let her. All I have to do is tell her when I want my pussy (her words) and she delivers with unbridled enthusiasm. It's a pretty sweet situation. We both provide the fulfillment that the other is looking for, and we're both extremely happy with our relationship. But we both keep everything in perspective as we both know there is never going to be a happily ever after in our future. And we're both good with that.

So that's all to say that it is absolutely possible to have deep, meaningful relationships with the younger women you meet on Seeking. Those relationships can be very rewarding and fill that void in your life that is not being satisfied by your SO. But it's important to keep in mind that a part-time clandestine relationship is not a REAL relationship. You're only seeing your girl occasionally, when you do there's a heavier emphasis on sex. That's not real life. You're getting the all the best parts of the relationship without having to deal with any of the bad. Never say never, but my best advice is to enjoy the girlfriend for what she is. A part time diversion. If you're considering leaving your wife, take some time away from the girlfriend to focus on the marriage and decide if a divorce is REALLY what you want. Absent any influence from that young hot piece of ass that's got you all sorts of sideways.

Your circumstances are a little unusual in that you're both married, but the broad strokes are the same. I'm happy to talk to you about your situation if you think you would benefit. Just drop me a PM.

JD.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6620521]Really? He puts a roof over his wife's head, puts her in some wheels, and does all the things she wants that cost him $. How many females out there do you think would sleep w / you if you were damn flat broke?

If I figured a 'PPM' for my SO, it would be way way more than I have ever given any SB.

There is clearly an exchange of wealth for sex in a vast majority of male. Female relationships. Unless you are a rock star or look like Brad Pitt, there is no such thing as free pussy.[/QUOTE]Haha. Ever heard of Tinder? There's no money exchanged for hooking up. You need to Go to a bar and pick up a girl and bring her home. Keep trying until you are successful. There are plenty of girls out there who will fuck for free.

Hey guys, looking for any recs on this MILF from seeking. I've chatted with her a bit but never seen her and curious if anyone has and would recommend or not, thanks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/80245240-79d7-4e15-acab-d9a273791bcb[/URL]

[QUOTE=DocHolliday35;6620790]Haha. Ever heard of Tinder? There's no money exchanged for hooking up. You need to Go to a bar and pick up a girl and bring her home. Keep trying until you are successful. There are plenty of girls out there who will fuck for free.[/QUOTE]I'd guess in school reading comprehension wasn't an A for you. I have a SO. I can't go to a bar trolling and bring home a girl. I am also well past being able to claim social security. I do like to bang 20-somethings, though, and there aren't too many girls who want to do the reverse out there.

[QUOTE=CoolEric1999;6617464]Where did you find her?[/QUOTE]On Seeking.

[QUOTE=DocHolliday35;6620790]Haha. Ever heard of Tinder? There's no money exchanged for hooking up. You need to Go to a bar and pick up a girl and bring her home. Keep trying until you are successful. There are plenty of girls out there who will fuck for free.[/QUOTE]Yes, we've all definitely heard of tinder, where only the top 5% of men get matches and are successful. Textbook economics dicatates that if women can earn $400 PPM for fucking, why on earth would they fuck for free?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6620902]I'd guess in school reading comprehension wasn't an A for you. I have a SO. I can't go to a bar trolling and bring home a girl. I am also well past being able to claim social security. I do like to bang 20-somethings, though, and there aren't too many girls who want to do the reverse out there.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a personal problem. There are thousands of girls out here screwing for no money.

[QUOTE=NoRug17;6619792]They have made the platform seeking, so expensive only real sugar daddies can afford it anymore.[/QUOTE]Seeking & SDM sites recently became more of scam sites, I am not talking about members. When you are a free member you won't have any issues but once you are a paid member to communicate with members the problem starts. These sites literally steal your money and they suspend you after they get your money.

For no reason, they suspend your accounts anytime due to automatic triggers that happen on the site on a regular basis and all your money will be gone. They clearly state there are no refunds.

I personally don't recommend using gift cards while getting a membership.

If you want to upgrade your membership only use Amex credit card. Some members want be anonymous and with amex you can use an alias name and can change the address. You can do dispute and block merchant with full refund in case seeking or SDM sites act up.

[QUOTE=DocHolliday35;6621435]Sounds like a personal problem. There are thousands of girls out here screwing for no money.[/QUOTE]Thousands. Is that out of the 8 billion people on the planet? I'll stand by my past statement. The 'vast majority' of male / female relations (including marriages, and specifically my own and many IK) have an element of $ to them.

You're a veteran here, you've likely read the posts of JZLizard, and Hollywood Guy, both Deans of the bowl. HG flat out says there is no such thing as free pussy. JZLizard, he says that paying a girl, even a modest amount, is the way to assure that she isn't expecting other 'benefits' from you; they would be much less overt than a stack of cash. She might really want a relationship, or something like it. If you pay her, you'll keep the lines very very clear. If you don't pay a girl you are seeing from SA, she can develop other 'expectations'.

The dude who started off this convo, because his girl is married as is he, her desires from him for the benefits she is providing, they could be very very costly.

And, 'personal problem'? Are you implying I am some homely dork who can't get women? You have no possible way to know something like that, it's just flaming, which isn't really supposed to be part of this blog. If you want to know about my SBs, ask another poster, JoyDrop, a friend who has seen all my SBs. He, BTW, wasn't kidding in his long post, and I cannot tell you the admiration in which I hold him.

Recall my initial post. I said the only people who get really free pussy are rock stars and guys who look like Brad Pitt. I assume most reading this aren't either of those, because they are reading this. They wouldn't need to if all they had to do was snap their fingers and girls wanted to bang them.

LonelyBaby.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/449ab474-88d4-4e43-adfa-b5a163508686[/URL]

PiscesPrincess.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c2561814-a2a6-45d0-b313-1fd4ea368fde[/URL]

Aria Rose.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/090cfaf7-904f-4750-af83-44aa74904ff1[/URL]

Amethyst_dream.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0f0952ff-49c7-403c-8ff2-8483a4dcc19d[/URL]

Hottie02.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/49e045ed-0d92-472a-a8a2-8d3a8a5bb767[/URL]

[QUOTE=DocHolliday35;6620790]Haha. Ever heard of Tinder? There's no money exchanged for hooking up. You need to Go to a bar and pick up a girl and bring her home. Keep trying until you are successful. There are plenty of girls out there who will fuck for free.[/QUOTE]Can you list few bars to go.