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Hey guys! Thanks to you fellas I found the sweet Amber from Pawtucket. She is super nice, cute and extremely easy to talk with. I had horrible panic / anxiety attacks all that day and explained to her why and she was awesome about it! I drove by the 1st time cause my heart was pounding out of my throat but went back around and followed through. She put me at ease and told me to take my time. I donated. 6 for HE, opting out of the BBBJCIM like the wuss that I am. (so afraid of catching something) Even though this girl is clean and super normal. I tipped. 15 Feel free to ask me for any other info.
I was going to try 725Branch cause I usually do Studio253 but I felt like being at a more private location. I'm glad I did and I will repeat for sure.
I posted a report over in the BP Advertisers forum on Alicia who's been posting ads lately (a few people had expressed curiosity there). So go check it out if interested.
[url]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60-special-gorgeous-hot-sexy-latina-100-independent-100-me-available-247-25/3114291[/url]
I am probably going to open up a can of worms with this post, and I really want the opinion of the more experienced guys in this room to respond to it, good or bad. I was going to toftt and meet destiny the last for digits are 5576 from BP. She asked for 200 for the hour and 150 for the half. In my mind I was cool with that, but for some reason I had mentioned is it unlimited cups of coffee, or is it the one cup rule. She told me I can have two cups for the hour, and one cup for the half. But if you drink the coffee before the time is up the meeting is over. I told her I will get back to you, and never called back. What brought all this on was, after giving this thought, we spend 200 an hour, why can't we we enjoy the company for the whole hour? Yes ok some providers have unlimited coffee in the hour, but shouldn't that be the standard rule? If I we book an hour, should we get the whole hour with the provider? What happens of I guy is thirsty and finishes in 10 minutes, when he booked an hour?
The other thing that I can't figure out is if you cannot asked any question when calling the provider then how do you know this? You mention the code words, and they don't know what they mean, you ask them if they provide a service they hang up. Just my two cents guys, please respond, I can take criticism, so let it on me.
I don't know about anyone else but I think it has everything to do with the quality of the provider. The Agencies for the most part will always deliver your full time. For instance, you get the full hr at Room Service up in Metro Boston and it is because they / she runs a quality operation and the same holds true with Down City. For me, I always start with the 1/2 time frame with someone new and treat her well. If she is good I always tell her I will be back and what I am looking for. It normally work. You can never tell when the providers are having a bad day. Someone should make an app for that. We would all be happy.
Dick.
[QUOTE=Italian2424; 1587942]I am probably going to open up a can of worms with this post, and I really want the opinion of the more experienced guys in this room to respond to it, good or bad. I was going to toftt and meet destiny the last for digits are 5576 from BP. She asked for 200 for the hour and 150 for the half. In my mind I was cool with that, but for some reason I had mentioned is it unlimited cups of coffee, or is it the one cup rule. She told me I can have two cups for the hour, and one cup for the half. But if you drink the coffee before the time is up the meeting is over. I told her I will get back to you, and never called back. What brought all this on was, after giving this thought, we spend 200 an hour, why can't we we enjoy the company for the whole hour? Yes ok some providers have unlimited coffee in the hour, but shouldn't that be the standard rule? If I we book an hour, should we get the whole hour with the provider? What happens of I guy is thirsty and finishes in 10 minutes, when he booked an hour?
The other thing that I can't figure out is if you cannot asked any question when calling the provider then how do you know this? You mention the code words, and they don't know what they mean, you ask them if they provide a service they hang up. Just my two cents guys, please respond, I can take criticism, so let it on me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Italian2424; 1587942]I am probably going to open up a can of worms with this post, and I really want the opinion of the more experienced guys in this room to respond to it, good or bad. I was going to toftt and meet destiny the last for digits are 5576 from BP. She asked for 200 for the hour and 150 for the half. In my mind I was cool with that, but for some reason I had mentioned is it unlimited cups of coffee, or is it the one cup rule. She told me I can have two cups for the hour, and one cup for the half. But if you drink the coffee before the time is up the meeting is over. I told her I will get back to you, and never called back. What brought all this on was, after giving this thought, we spend 200 an hour, why can't we we enjoy the company for the whole hour? Yes ok some providers have unlimited coffee in the hour, but shouldn't that be the standard rule? If I we book an hour, should we get the whole hour with the provider? What happens of I guy is thirsty and finishes in 10 minutes, when he booked an hour?
The other thing that I can't figure out is if you cannot asked any question when calling the provider then how do you know this? You mention the code words, and they don't know what they mean, you ask them if they provide a service they hang up. Just my two cents guys, please respond, I can take criticism, so let it on me.[/QUOTE]You raised one of the oldest questions about the oldest profession. Personally, I think it has more to do with how men and women view getting off, and how providers view their work. If I'm a provider I'm seeing my job as getting the guy off, not necessarily being his F-pal for an hour. He gets off, I get him out of there. If I agree to 2 cups in the hour and they're both served in 35 minutes, I've done my job and since the guy's gotten his 2nd cup I'm entitled to a little extra time before my next appointment. He's not here to snuggle and chat with me, is he? . That's the way most providers (especially independents) look at it, and for a lot of guys, that's just what they want, so you can't really blame those gals. But there are other guys who might prefer to continue to enjoy the company of the lady even after the 2nd cup has been enjoyed (personally, I think they're in the minority, but they're certainly not a great majority). Those guys feel disappointed and a bit ripped off when a lady shows them the door 2 minutes after cup #2 or after cup #1 in a half-hour appointment. I'm not sure a "standard rule" is possible. As we all know, some gals care about building a repeat clientele and others don't seem to care about that at all. There are a few independents out there who will give guys who ask for it a full 60-minute hour, and even offer to try for a 3rd cup, and those ladies are gems. Yeah, there are a lot of ladies whose 40-minute appointments are genuinely more satisfying than 60 minutes with one of their competitors, but IMHO it's more often the case that the lady who stands strictly on her 2-cup "rule" is likely to a clock-watcher who sees her job as getting the coffer served as quickly as possible. Like Starbucks with a sign on the table saying,"Customers must not linger at the tables longer than it takes to let their coffee cool and quickly drink it down." My 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Italian2424;1587942]The other thing that I can't figure out is if you cannot asked any question when calling the provider then how do you know this? You mention the code words, and they don't know what they mean, you ask them if they provide a service they hang up. Just my two cents guys, please respond, I can take criticism, so let it on me.[/QUOTE]NO EXPLICIT QUESTIONS. I see that quite a bit lately. So if I don't ask how do I know what worthy cause I'm donating too? 200 bucks to watch her dance in bra and panties while I rub one out isn't a deal in my book. It is a valid question.
If you get to know a provider well most will say guys are in and out, no pun intended, in under a half. As for 'cups' or 'shots on goal' that is something best negociated face to face. Be warned, your excellant negociation skills may result in a sub standard experience.
[QUOTE=Italian2424; 1587942]I am probably going to open up a can of worms with this post, and I really want the opinion of the more experienced guys in this room to respond to it, good or bad. I was going to toftt and meet destiny the last for digits are 5576 from BP. She asked for 200 for the hour and 150 for the half. In my mind I was cool with that, but for some reason I had mentioned is it unlimited cups of coffee, or is it the one cup rule. She told me I can have two cups for the hour, and one cup for the half. But if you drink the coffee before the time is up the meeting is over. I told her I will get back to you, and never called back. What brought all this on was, after giving this thought, we spend 200 an hour, why can't we we enjoy the company for the whole hour? Yes ok some providers have unlimited coffee in the hour, but shouldn't that be the standard rule? If I we book an hour, should we get the whole hour with the provider? What happens of I guy is thirsty and finishes in 10 minutes, when he booked an hour?
The other thing that I can't figure out is if you cannot asked any question when calling the provider then how do you know this? You mention the code words, and they don't know what they mean, you ask them if they provide a service they hang up. Just my two cents guys, please respond, I can take criticism, so let it on me.[/QUOTE]If your going to be an "experienced guy" then you also need to set some rules and guidelines that you follow, just like these girls do! If your going to decide to TOFTT then also be prepared to have a bad time, possibly not get what you came for or get booted earlier then you had planned. That just comes with the territory when your seeing a girl who is not well reviewed. Some of the excitement of seeing a girl like this is the chance you strike gold and have a great time and didn't expect it.
Now on the other hand, if you the type who wants to insure he has a great time and gets his full allotted time and cups then you need to do your research, read all the reviews on the girl, google the girl, look for info on her here and only choose girls who meet your requirements per there reviews and what you find online. I rarely ever see a girl that I can't verify she is my type. I do tons of research sometimes over the course of weeks to months to insure that what I want is what I get. By doing this I rarely ever get disappointed, shorted on time of not getting what you paid for. After the research I do on a girl I don't need to verify anything with her because I already know what I'm getting. I'm the type who will find a great girl and see her often once we hit it off.
Bottom line is if your the type who is a spur of the moment type always need to see a different girl each time then be prepared to TOFTT
Muffy
[QUOTE=Italian2424; 1587942]I am probably going to open up a can of worms with this post, and I really want the opinion of the more experienced guys in this room to respond to it, good or bad. I was going to toftt and meet destiny the last for digits are 5576 from BP. She asked for 200 for the hour and 150 for the half. In my mind I was cool with that, but for some reason I had mentioned is it unlimited cups of coffee, or is it the one cup rule. She told me I can have two cups for the hour, and one cup for the half. But if you drink the coffee before the time is up the meeting is over. I told her I will get back to you, and never called back. What brought all this on was, after giving this thought, we spend 200 an hour, why can't we we enjoy the company for the whole hour? Yes ok some providers have unlimited coffee in the hour, but shouldn't that be the standard rule? If I we book an hour, should we get the whole hour with the provider? What happens of I guy is thirsty and finishes in 10 minutes, when he booked an hour?
The other thing that I can't figure out is if you cannot asked any question when calling the provider then how do you know this? You mention the code words, and they don't know what they mean, you ask them if they provide a service they hang up. Just my two cents guys, please respond, I can take criticism, so let it on me.[/QUOTE]I am with you on this because of this I never do hour sessions anymore I did one and timed my self and I was in and out in 20 mins felt really pissed off. I now usually do 15 mins sessions then talk my way into getting the provider to extend the session for 10 more minutes so now I kind of get half hour session at the 15 min rate. I am a nice guy but unlike others here I don't take getting ripped off lightly. If your like me and don't take getting ripped off lightly then you got to do a lot of research always start off with the 15 min session if the girl is good at what she does then you can pay to extend the time or come back for a longer period. Since I like to do 15 sessions I always have to make sure what is offered and whats not because some girls only do BJ on 15 min sessions, so I get hanged up on sometimes but you have to be as respectful as you can. I am one of the type that feels we are the ones in control since we are the ones paying so if your charging 200 a hour I should be able to ask whats included and she needs to make me feel like she is worth 200 a hour. I normally have a back up provider and a exit strategy incase I get to the door and the person does not look anything like their picture or the place don't seem safe or right. I always walk away please do the same it encourages these girls to stop using fake pics and most the time the service might not be good if she has to use fake pictures and it stops girls who live in the slums and provide below average service to be charging high end prices. I see some of these girls and they not living that much better then the SW but want to be charging 150 for a half hour. We need some low end providers who can get you off quickly and cheaply I am still looking for a provider that will take like 30 for quick BJ when I don't feel like or can't afford to drop a 100 for half. I at the end of the day feel what your saying and if more guys took a stand it would force these girls to change, mostly talking about the low end providers trying to come off as high end providers. Higher end providers like joi love can ask what she wants because she put in the extra work taking care of her body, putting out videos, having photoshoots and dressing up her incall location etc
[QUOTE=Gansett; 1588559]NO EXPLICIT QUESTIONS. I see that quite a bit lately. So if I don't ask how do I know what worthy cause I'm donating too? 200 bucks to watch her dance in bra and panties while I rub one out isn't a deal in my book. It is a valid question.
If you get to know a provider well most will say guys are in and out, no pun intended, in under a half. As for 'cups' or 'shots on goal' that is something best negociated face to face. Be warned, your excellant negociation skills may result in a sub standard experience.[/QUOTE]I think the reason for no explicit questions is to avoid LE. If they don't say anything over the phone, they're safe. Just like the women who ask "Are you LE?" I keep wanting to tell them that question won't save them.
Hey M's,
When I was contemplating who to see on beerfest I thougt about seeing this lovely lady [url]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/s-e-x-y-23/3166489[/url]
I called and we talked and sent me a text on her general local, but I am not that familiar with providence and my GPS was running low. I didn't get a chance to visit because the GPs had died on me, so I am asking if anyone has seen her and what are their thoughts. No explicet details, only if she's worth the 140 hh and 200 hr. I will not give out her general area so no pm asking for it.
Tap
To me an hour is an hour. This is supposed to be a customer service based business and if providers looked at it that way, they would get lots of repeat clientele like I have. Unfortunately the one's I've met off of BP and tried to help have a negative opinion of men, most of the older ladies I've met have been in the business starting in their late teens, early 20's, come from dysfunctional families, have drug issues, are not good with money. Live out of hotels. Unstable lives. I think they see the business as a way to earn quick cash and then spend every bit of it quickly. I doubt they think about retirement, savings, being responsible, I find many being self-centered. I haven't met many of the younger ladies, but I'm not too impressed with our educational system when reading the ads as they are not creative, can't spell, call themselves Italian Stallions. And what's up with the younger generation with all those tatoos? They will regret it later on, but I probably sound like an old fart,.which I am in comparison. BTW, I like to cuddle and talk. I think escorting and meeting the guys is fun, but then I only provide part-time, because I have a full-time career and have only been doing it on and off since 2008, so maybe I'm not burnt out yet. Actually as time goes on I like it more and more. Sex work isn't exactly new to me, because I used to be a stripper, so you think I'd be burnt out by now LOL.
[QUOTE=Italian2424; 1587942]I am probably going to open up a can of worms with this post, and I really want the opinion of the more experienced guys in this room to respond to it, good or bad. I was going to toftt and meet destiny the last for digits are 5576 from BP. She asked for 200 for the hour and 150 for the half. In my mind I was cool with that, but for some reason I had mentioned is it unlimited cups of coffee, or is it the one cup rule. She told me I can have two cups for the hour, and one cup for the half. But if you drink the coffee before the time is up the meeting is over. I told her I will get back to you, and never called back. What brought all this on was, after giving this thought, we spend 200 an hour, why can't we we enjoy the company for the whole hour? Yes ok some providers have unlimited coffee in the hour, but shouldn't that be the standard rule? If I we book an hour, should we get the whole hour with the provider? What happens of I guy is thirsty and finishes in 10 minutes, when he booked an hour?
The other thing that I can't figure out is if you cannot asked any question when calling the provider then how do you know this? You mention the code words, and they don't know what they mean, you ask them if they provide a service they hang up. Just my two cents guys, please respond, I can take criticism, so let it on me.[/QUOTE]This is actually a good topic. I have a few that I use as repeats. From my experience, the time thing will always vary. What does it vary on?
1. Girl: I have a few that I generally use, sometimes she will let me sit there for minutes and talk before she even starts. Other time she tries to get me in and out be / see she has some other mong coming. (I use a girl that partners up w / another girl, and if the other girl has someone else coming, then I'm in and out no less then 15min)
2. How busy they are: goes back to 1.
3. Mood: sometimes it depends how their feeling.
4. Location: If I coming into a residential area its always IN and OUT, hotels I've been able to stay longer.
Cups of tea / coffee. Never asked to pop more than 1x. Think I will be using more of the incalls going forward VS street, so I will definitely be asking for tips and posting.
If anyone has any good ebony or latin w / a big bodonkadonk PM me.
[QUOTE=Italian2424; 1587942]I am probably going to open up a can of worms with this post, and I really want the opinion of the more experienced guys in this room to respond to it, good or bad. We spend 200 an hour, why can't we we enjoy the company for the whole hour? Yes ok some providers have unlimited coffee in the hour, but shouldn't that be the standard rule? If I we book an hour, should we get the whole hour with the provider?
The other thing that I can't figure out is if you cannot asked any question when calling the provider then how do you know this? You mention the code words, and they don't know what they mean, you ask them if they provide a service they hang up.[/QUOTE]While all the advise & opinions here are very good, it's really up to you to go out & apply the information to real life situations.
There is no teacher better than the school of hard knocks.
Don't be afraid to make mistakes, they can be a great learning tool, in time hopefully you will learn to minimize mistakes.
However it's one thing to be beat out of some money or sevice, it's quite another to have a run-in with LE so be ever vigilant.
IMO all you can do is learn from your experiences & make the best you can out of each encounter.
There are no standard hard fast rules, & the only ones that apply are the ones you make at that moment, & please [red]NOTE[/red] they are suject to change without notice!
Communication about specific services, time, availability, etc. can be a challenge, this is also part of the learning curve & is best done between you & the provider, not always but mostly face to face.
You may find that this applies to most situations when you are wanting something specific:
Now some they do and some they don't.
And some you just can't tell.
And some they will and some they won't.
For some it's just as well.
Just asking the questions you did shows the ability & capacity to learn from opinions & advise.
Now all you need do is go & apply that to the real world.
Remember to trust your guts, instincts, & judgement, they should serve you well over time.
Have fun stay safe
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1588901]To me an hour is an hour. This is supposed to be a customer service based business and if providers looked at it that way, they would get lots of repeat clientele like I have.[/QUOTE]You're right Deb, but unfortunately the business model has become get'them in, get'them off, get'them out NEXT as there will always be another to take the place of a client who leaves feeling they were short changed.
I'm not a fan of tats but a small butterfly or flower doesn't bother me too much. But when a beautiful breast has a former (?) boyfriends name,"sleeves" and legs, back and belly covered in them it's a turn off for me.
Wait until they get the tramp stamp they have in Chinese translated and find it's 'beef w / brocoli' or my favorite 'thank you, cum again' [grin]
I had an appointment set up with a gentleman I haven't met yet. He texted me that he insisted I send him a "kitty shot" so it would protect him from being stung by LE. He claimed this is a full proof method he uses to prevent himself from being arrested. Hmm, funny because he mentioned what he planned to do with my "kitty" which he claimes he doesn't remember doing. Now this guy claims he is a hobbiest and has seen two well reviewed providers who sent him kitty shots before their first meeting, among others. He said it's standard procedure LOL. WTF!
I was thinking he was a pic collector when he gave the reason that a kitty pic would protect him from a sting. That's a pretty lame reason IMHO.
Have you connected with the two others that supposedly provided him with kitty pics?
Here we are living our lives, going out in public thinking all the whack jobs are locked up.
Agree with Gansett. Sounds like an odd fellow, maybe a pic collector. Not worth pursuing. LE can engage in a wide variety of investigative techniques, so, not sure how photos, or other stuff guys think is a defense would work in court.
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1589768]I had an appointment set up with a gentleman I haven't met yet. He texted me that he insisted I send him a "kitty shot" so it would protect him from being stung by LE. He claimed this is a full proof method he uses to prevent himself from being arrested. Hmm, funny because he mentioned what he planned to do with my "kitty" which he claimes he doesn't remember doing. Now this guy claims he is a hobbiest and has seen two well reviewed providers who sent him kitty shots before their first meeting, among others. He said it's standard procedure LOL. WTF![/QUOTE]Oh my love. You really find the good ones don't you. A 'kitty' pic is not going to 'protect' him from anything and can only be bad news for you. It isn't the fact that you and / or he would be neeked in the room that is going to protect either of you as the last time I checked being naked wasn't against the law (yet). It is the paying of said sum of $$ for you to do the act. And if he is trying to protect himself from a sting. How would that do it? Le could send anything to him saying it was you. After all they ARE pretending to be an escort when they place the sting ad so what is an extra step of faking a pic. As far as the other providers sending him pics. Ask him who they were and contact the providers. Betcha he changes his mind quickly.
And as G suggested it could be just a collector of pics or someone with a grudge. I would assume that the pic would have to show more than the kitty for him to 'know' it was you. Then he could use that pic for whatever he wanted.
On the other hand. Having had the opportunity to be a friend of yours these past few years and having enjoyed your love and affection on more than a few occasions I certainly know why he would want the pics LOL. As I've said before to you. Be overly safe in where you go and who you see. It is a very scary place out there with everything going on. You don't need the aggravation or the hassle of getting yourself into a bad situation. Besides I thought the handcuffs were reserved for me! Lots of love. SO
[QUOTE=Gansett; 1589516]You're right Deb, but unfortunately the business model has become get'them in, get'them off, get'them out NEXT as there will always be another to take the place of a client who leaves feeling they were short changed.
I'm not a fan of tats but a small butterfly or flower doesn't bother me too much. But when a beautiful breast has a former (?) boyfriends name,"sleeves" and legs, back and belly covered in them it's a turn off for me.
Wait until they get the tramp stamp they have in Chinese translated and find it's 'beef w / brocoli' or my favorite 'thank you, cum again' [grin][/QUOTE]Hey G. Congrats on hitting the 1000 mark. Glad to be a fiend of yours and thanks for all the tips, info and help all these years. SO
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1588901]To me an hour is an hour. This is supposed to be a customer service based business and if providers looked at it that way, they would get lots of repeat clientele like I have. BTW, I like to cuddle and talk. I think escorting and meeting the guys is fun, but then I only provide part-time, because I have a full-time career and have only been doing it on and off since 2008, so maybe I'm not burnt out yet. Actually as time goes on I like it more and more. Sex work isn't exactly new to me, because I used to be a stripper, so you think I'd be burnt out by now LOL.[/QUOTE]And that attitude is exactly why I have been enjoying your company for the past few years. Most guys are into it for the sex act and not the companionship. Just look at the reviews a lot of guys post. I got covered instead of BB. She only liked one position. She didn't swallow. I couldn't touch this or that. She didn't do this or didn't like that. Yadiyadiya. And that isn't to say that there is anything wrong with that. Some girls just don't have the predisposition, skill or apptitude to be anything other than cockpits. As you posted they need to feed a habit or something else money driven. The issue with these ladies is when they promise something and they don't do it but accept the money. If your not going to do it then just don't promise it.
Maybe it is just age. Maybe it is being jaded as you said but as you very well know when we get together it is all about the conversation, pillow talk and cuddle time. As 'dumb and farfetched' as this will sound to many out there. We have spent many a time just talking and cuddling and when we kiss goodbye that is about as close as we get to the 'act'. But it is time well spent. SO
[QUOTE=Stressed Out; 1590366]And that attitude is exactly why I have been enjoying your company for the past few years. Most guys are into it for the sex act and not the companionship. Just look at the reviews a lot of guys post. I got covered instead of BB. She only liked one position. She didn't swallow. I couldn't touch this or that. She didn't do this or didn't like that. Yadiyadiya. And that isn't to say that there is anything wrong with that. Some girls just don't have the predisposition, skill or apptitude to be anything other than cockpits. As you posted they need to feed a habit or something else money driven. The issue with these ladies is when they promise something and they don't do it but accept the money. If your not going to do it then just don't promise it.
Maybe it is just age. Maybe it is being jaded as you said but as you very well know when we get together it is all about the conversation, pillow talk and cuddle time. As 'dumb and farfetched' as this will sound to many out there. We have spent many a time just talking and cuddling and when we kiss goodbye that is about as close as we get to the 'act'. But it is time well spent. SO[/QUOTE]1000 posts, wow. I'll be in my 80's before I reach that mark. Congratualtions Gansett.
S. O. I'm with you on this one. I'm also one who likes to cuddle and talk. Always have and always will. I was an AMP guy and I have to say I was with some great girls who also liked to cuddle, kiss, talk. I always stayed with the same one until they were gone. Most of the one's I met were usually referrals. I haven't been with a lot of different providers over the last 5 years because of reading about guys getting ripped off, or girls not being what they advertised as. I can't get away from SO as much as I like or have that extra cash to get burned. I'm with a provider now that is in MY estimation the best GFE experience I've had. I just like being with her. I see her every couple weeks and look forward to it.
I do miss the Korean girls though there was just something about them.
[QUOTE=Knight62;1590440]I do miss the Korean girls though there was just something about them.[/QUOTE]Could it be their tight thin bodies, or their willingness to please, or their tight thin bodies, or their beautiful faces, or their tight thin bodies, or their flirty language, or maybe just their tight thin bodies. At any rate, I agree, there is something about them.
[QUOTE=Stressed Out; 1590366]And that attitude is exactly why I have been enjoying your company for the past few years. Most guys are into it for the sex act and not the companionship. Just look at the reviews a lot of guys post. I got covered instead of BB. She only liked one position. She didn't swallow. I couldn't touch this or that. She didn't do this or didn't like that. Yadiyadiya. And that isn't to say that there is anything wrong with that. Some girls just don't have the predisposition, skill or apptitude to be anything other than cockpits. As you posted they need to feed a habit or something else money driven. The issue with these ladies is when they promise something and they don't do it but accept the money. If your not going to do it then just don't promise it.
Maybe it is just age. Maybe it is being jaded as you said but as you very well know when we get together it is all about the conversation, pillow talk and cuddle time. As 'dumb and farfetched' as this will sound to many out there. We have spent many a time just talking and cuddling and when we kiss goodbye that is about as close as we get to the 'act'. But it is time well spent. SO[/QUOTE]Many of these girls are high volume providers, and this is why they have low rates and do not even bother to get references or screen. Many will agree to anything on the phone and then they disappoint and rush the client out the door. If a girl is going to scam you, don't you think she will lie to you first, just to lure you in. When a provider does not ask for references nor does she require screening, this means she tells every guy that calls her, exactly where she is located and says "come right over". So don't be surprised when the cops are waiting and detain you as you are leaving one of these locations. If a women does not care about her own personal safety, do you really think she cares about yours, or the service she provides.
I have been told by clients that they love mature women, they are treated with respect, they enjoy pillow talk and cuddling and the non rush service, but its real hard to get this type of service with a 1/2 hr appointment, or a girl that has low rates.
Escorts spend 200 to 300 a day, between hotels, gas, and advertising, so when a girl only charges 100 bucks, she has to see at least 2 or 3 clients just to break even, most of these girls will see 10 clients a day, and then you guys wonder why they won't give you their full attention and why they rush you out the door.
Quality companionship usually comes from a provider who only see's a few clients a week, and while all of us have our own personal boundaries and may we willing to do somethings with some people and not with others, and while some clients like to complaint hat she wouldn't do this or that, sometimes its because the man has bad hygiene. We are not blow up dolls, you paid for our TIME not for a specific sex act.
Just wanted to give a little refresher on how we all need to be much more careful and aware of the risks of this hobby. Lately there seems to be a big influx of "New" girls in the area, just a quick search on BP will bring up dozens of girls who are unfamiliar to our area, they may have out of town phone numbers or even local numbers. After researching on google (which you should always do) you find little to no information, no reviews or anything else on this girl. Its almost as if she suddenly appeared from the heavens! Usually the pics are of a very attractive woman and the pics are professionally done. I always wonder how such an attractive woman who has Pro pictures displayed can exist in this profession without at least having some verifiable info online or have reviews on the review sites. To me this is a HUGE red flag, if I can't find anything online other then the girls BP ads and she seems TGTBT then I stay away, no matter how much little muffy wants to run to see her! I'm seeing most of these mystery girls working out of the Warwick hotels, so just be ultra aware of whom you decide to see!
I'm only brining this information up due to the fact that our little fucked up state has decided to go after our beloved hobby with a passion, not only are they closing the AMPs but they will be also working hard to slow the BP and escort trade. There will be stings coming, could even be a real working girl working for LE, just be careful out there, times have changed here in RI, its not the wild west it use to be! (you've been warned!)
Muffy
[QUOTE=MuffyTheDiver; 1591180]Just wanted to give a little refresher on how we all need to be much more careful and aware of the risks of this hobby. Lately there seems to be a big influx of "New" girls in the area, just a quick search on BP will bring up dozens of girls who are unfamiliar to our area, they may have out of town phone numbers or even local numbers. After researching on google (which you should always do) you find little to no information, no reviews or anything else on this girl. Its almost as if she suddenly appeared from the heavens! Usually the pics are of a very attractive woman and the pics are professionally done. I always wonder how such an attractive woman who has Pro pictures displayed can exist in this profession without at least having some verifiable info online or have reviews on the review sites. To me this is a HUGE red flag, if I can't find anything online other then the girls BP ads and she seems TGTBT then I stay away, no matter how much little muffy wants to run to see her! I'm seeing most of these mystery girls working out of the Warwick hotels, so just be ultra aware of whom you decide to see!
I'm only brining this information up due to the fact that our little fucked up state has decided to go after our beloved hobby with a passion, not only are they closing the AMPs but they will be also working hard to slow the BP and escort trade. There will be stings coming, could even be a real working girl working for LE, just be careful out there, times have changed here in RI, its not the wild west it use to be! (you've been warned!)
Muffy[/QUOTE]Muffy can you recommend any security checks one can do not to fall into such a trap.
I had one provider show me her breast in the hallway before we went into her room, I did that because I had noticed a black&white sitting next door.
One thing you can do is stick with a known provider who has reviews. Another is seeing a provider recommended by another monger here or in a pm / email.
There is always a risk and always will be, there are no guarantees. That provider you're going back to see for the umpteenth time or the one with a solid gold rep might have been nabbed the night before. In many cases she doesn't have much to lose, you do. I've always believed that in order to save her ass it'll be mine in the sling.
[QUOTE=TapThePie; 1591214]Muffy can you recommend any security checks one can do not to fall into such a trap.
I had one provider show me her breast in the hallway before we went into her room, I did that because I had noticed a black&white sitting next door.[/QUOTE]Thats a good way to insure she is not part of a sting but most of the time an LE girl is not going to come out of the room to fetch you, just too risky for them to be walking around away from their security. Always be aware of interconnecting rooms in Hotels, check the lock and insure its locked between the rooms, If its not get your ass out of the room but you can almost be sure if you start to go towards that door to lock it your going to get stormed by the waiting crowd in the other room if its a sting!
My feelings about the typical LE check is that it is worthless and you will end up in cuffs either way regardless of where or what you grab or feel!
If your already in the Hotel room and they are set up for a sting and you go to grab the girls tits or feel her up you can guarantee the cops are running in and throwing your ass to the floor and cuffing you! Doesn't matter how much you insist you were only there for a chat with the girl, your going down, its their word against yours and their going to win that battle 99% of the time.
The working girls do it as it makes sense for them because no "Good" cop is going to let her grab his balls, I know some girls who will go right into a BJ as soon as you walk in the door, then if you let them continue the passing of money happens. But for us guys to be grabbing a girl and feeling her up as a "Cop Check" is not going to do anything but land your ass in jail if it is in fact a sting!
I'm talking about doing your "Due Diligence" and researching the girl before you ever step foot in the door to see her. Look for reviews from reliable guys who have reviewd many, do a google search with her phone number, you would be surprised at how much info is out there. I personally will never see a "New" girl who has no reviews or any searchable info online, just wayyyyyy to risky for me and also I don't want to waste my time or money on a scam girl or a girl who does not offer the level of service I want. If you follow these rules you should never have to worry about doing a "Cop Check" at all. Leave the "Cop Checks" to the girl you are seeing.
[QUOTE=GinaInTheMorni; 1591165]Many of these girls are high volume providers, and this is why they have low rates and do not even bother to get references or screen. Many will agree to anything on the phone and then they disappoint and rush the client out the door. If a girl is going to scam you, don't you think she will lie to you first, just to lure you in. When a provider does not ask for references nor does she require screening, this means she tells every guy that calls her, exactly where she is located and says "come right over". So don't be surprised when the cops are waiting and detain you as you are leaving one of these locations. If a women does not care about her own personal safety, do you really think she cares about yours, or the service she provides.
I have been told by clients that they love mature women, they are treated with respect, they enjoy pillow talk and cuddling and the non rush service, but its real hard to get this type of service with a 1/2 hr appointment, or a girl that has low rates.
Escorts spend 200 to 300 a day, between hotels, gas, and advertising, so when a girl only charges 100 bucks, she has to see at least 2 or 3 clients just to break even, most of these girls will see 10 clients a day, and then you guys wonder why they won't give you their full attention and why they rush you out the door.
Quality companionship usually comes from a provider who only see's a few clients a week, and while all of us have our own personal boundaries and may we willing to do somethings with some people and not with others, and while some clients like to complaint hat she wouldn't do this or that, sometimes its because the man has bad hygiene. We are not blow up dolls, you paid for our TIME not for a specific sex act.[/QUOTE]So a high volume provider charges less in order to see more clients to make the same amount. Really? They're not sitting on a WalMart where the profit margin is made on volume sales. I enjoy mature, in-shape women. Chasing a nipple into a armpit kinda turns me off.
As for references, I'm not giving my personal info to you or any other provider. Are you going to give me yours so I can screen you? Doubtful.
That really is the beauty of this site and another site. Anyone that goes by pictures on BP can get in some big trouble. One time I thought I was in a jam in Warwick and I actually was asked by the front desk who I was visting. I made up a name, faked a call and split. I actually cased the place for a while at a distance. The girl had good reviews on another site. She called me and asked what was up. I told her and she still wanted to meet. Little head was thinking and I had her walk to my car and went for a BJ.
[QUOTE=MuffyTheDiver; 1591241]Thats a good way to insure she is not part of a sting but most of the time an LE girl is not going to come out of the room to fetch you, just too risky for them to be walking around away from their security. Always be aware of interconnecting rooms in Hotels, check the lock and insure its locked between the rooms, If its not get your ass out of the room but you can almost be sure if you start to go towards that door to lock it your going to get stormed by the waiting crowd in the other room if its a sting!
My feelings about the typical LE check is that it is worthless and you will end up in cuffs either way regardless of where or what you grab or feel!
If your already in the Hotel room and they are set up for a sting and you go to grab the girls tits or feel her up you can guarantee the cops are running in and throwing your ass to the floor and cuffing you! Doesn't matter how much you insist you were only there for a chat with the girl, your going down, its their word against yours and their going to win that battle 99% of the time.
The working girls do it as it makes sense for them because no "Good" cop is going to let her grab his balls, I know some girls who will go right into a BJ as soon as you walk in the door, then if you let them continue the passing of money happens. But for us guys to be grabbing a girl and feeling her up as a "Cop Check" is not going to do anything but land your ass in jail if it is in fact a sting!
I'm talking about doing your "Due Diligence" and researching the girl before you ever step foot in the door to see her. Look for reviews from reliable guys who have reviewd many, do a google search with her phone number, you would be surprised at how much info is out there. I personally will never see a "New" girl who has no reviews or any searchable info online, just wayyyyyy to risky for me and also I don't want to waste my time or money on a scam girl or a girl who does not offer the level of service I want. If you follow these rules you should never have to worry about doing a "Cop Check" at all. Leave the "Cop Checks" to the girl you are seeing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MuffyTheDiver;1591241]Thats a good way to insure she is not part of a sting but most of the time an LE girl is not going to come out of the room to fetch you, just too risky for them to be walking around away from their security.[/QUOTE]Muff is right, a provider rarely leaves her room. Although I have had them come to the back door of a hotel to let me in but there was no discussion until in the room. The same goes for SW'er, a decoy won't get in your vehicle. Too risky.
Incall is riskier then outcall IMHO. I know my neighbors and wonder what they would think seeing a different girl show up, sometimes two or three girls a day, then leave after a hour or so day after day at my home.
I struck out at Tansmart, and left horny, so I called Mitch's friend and she was able to accompany me on a short notice. She did not disappoint, she is everything mitch says, if you want info you will have to contact him.
Glad to see the high activity post in this thread.
If your not willing to give out your info, then use a reference from another escort. I give referrals to clients even when I haven't seen them in months. If a lady doesn't require screening or references then she has spend all day, telling every guy who calls her location. As far as your Walmart comment it doesn't even make sense, if a girl charges just 100 bucks she has to see 2 or 3 clients just to pay for her hotel and travel expenses, so they have to see tons of guys to make a profit. Low volume providers like myself only see a few clients a week. Many clients don't want to see a girl that has already seen 5 to 10 guys the same day.
Some of us have a bit more standards then the others, and provide A QUALITY EXPERIENCE. We also value our personal safety, and are well aware there is a serial killer that has buried and buried 10 escorts in Gilgo Beach in NY. I think its disturbing that you don't care about the escorts safety or your own. I bet every guy that ends up with his name in the newspaper, picked some girl that asked no questions or for a reference.
To each their own, I guess some of us Gal's are not as desperate as others.
[QUOTE=Gansett; 1591251]So a high volume provider charges less in order to see more clients to make the same amount. Really? They're not sitting on a WalMart where the profit margin is made on volume sales. I enjoy mature, in-shape women. Chasing a nipple into a armpit kinda turns me off.
As for references, I'm not giving my personal info to you or any other provider. Are you going to give me yours so I can screen you? Doubtful.[/QUOTE]
The number one reason cops arrest escorts and clients, is they see a client leave the appointment and then they threaten to call his wives or employer and the guy sings like a canary, and before he opened his mouth the cops have no proof of any illegal activities. Its legal to see a escort for her time and companionship. I know of a few good escorts that got busted and took the whole rap, and protected their clients. But then again when a guy see's providers that see clients every half hour all day long, its very easy for the hotels to figure it out and put in a call to LE. We all know if a client snitches on the escort some times they let him go, but they always arrest the escort, so why would she tell them anything? Your lack of concern for the escort and clients safety is disrupting.
[QUOTE=Gansett; 1591238]One thing you can do is stick with a known provider who has reviews. Another is seeing a provider recommended by another monger here or in a pm / email.
There is always a risk and always will be, there are no guarantees. That provider you're going back to see for the umpteenth time or the one with a solid gold rep might have been nabbed the night before. In many cases she doesn't have much to lose, you do. I've always believed that in order to save her ass it'll be mine in the sling.[/QUOTE]
Just left my ATF, who's been reviewed on here many times. There is nothing like going to see someone that you actually look forward to see. You know that when you open that door you see a gorgeous face, with a nice body and a little something on. You know from that first kiss that it's going to be another great time. You know that you won't get robbed, or scammed or worry about somebody else being there. You know that the place will be clean. You also know that she will give you her undivided attention. She loves to give but she also likes to receive. You'll get the full hour, no rush. You'll leave happy and satisfied knowing you'll be back.
Damn, I'm hot, like to got back for an afternoon session.
[QUOTE=Knight62; 1592439]Just left my ATF, who's been reviewed on here many times. There is nothing like going to see someone that you actually look forward to see. You know that when you open that door you see a gorgeous face, with a nice body and a little something on. You know from that first kiss that it's going to be another great time. You know that you won't get robbed, or scammed or worry about somebody else being there. You know that the place will be clean. You also know that she will give you her undivided attention. She loves to give but she also likes to receive. You'll get the full hour, no rush. You'll leave happy and satisfied knowing you'll be back.
Damn, I'm hot, like to got back for an afternoon session.[/QUOTE]I just have to ask, is it Jackie? Bacause she's my ATF and the way you describe her it sure sounds like it. Well regardless, hope all is well.
I stumbled on this on P411. Apparentley she is back!
[url]https://www.preferred411.com/P42562[/url]
[QUOTE=IceCreamMan33; 1595877]I stumbled on this on P411. Apparentley she is back!
[url]https://www.preferred411.com/P42562[/url][/QUOTE]Maybe, it just says she logged in. According to her personal site, she last visited there in May.
Called Jessica for an appt and what a waste of time. I don't know if she was having a bad day or just didn't like the sound of my voice, either way she sounded very aggravated and was short with me over the phone, I decided ok I'll still take an appt, this was my first mistake. So I get the address and plug it into my phone (apple maps) this turned out to be my second error. Took me way off course so I call to let her know I'm there (or at least I thought I was) , she gain sounded aggravated and was short, I finally end up finding the address 5 min later so I call. No answer. Then I get a txt msg telling me congrats on finding the address, I apologize and explain what happened then ask if she's still available. Response from her was insulting to say the least. Now I understand this was partly my fault since I did get lost, but there was no need for her to be rude and to waste my time. It's unfortunate I had read good things about her and was hoping on finding a good mild type provider. Oh well you win some and you lose some.