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I know I'm new here but as Chelli states I am entitled to my opinion. There is a fine line between probviders and girlfriends. As Chelli says typically the providers that entertain you probably aren't the one's you are going to take home to mom. That being said I believe there is a level of respect and civillity that needs to extended to these ladies. If you treat our lovely entertainers like trash, our ladies will not be that entertaining. If you (Chelli) don't have the funds to pay an entertainer, then maybe you should go and find some streetwalker to give you a. 2 HJ or BJ. Either way I really could give a shit. My last donation was $$.5 for a truely lovely lady while down at Lawrenceburg playing some games of chance. That is hardly a weeks pay, more like a day. If it is a days pay to you then maybe you should re-evaluate your priorities and consider a cheaper hobby. Like Gent magazine and a bottle of lotion. But to speak to a provider like she was a cheap street walker leads me to believe you might have some emotional issues as well as finacial. If you just want to have someone suck your dick, then go on down to east or west tenth st. And I'm sure you can find a date. As for me I like a higher quality or standard in life. I enjoy the company of someone who I wouldn't mind being seen with in a public setting. More importantly in a private room while she undresses, and I like the fact that I don't usually worry about my wallet disappearing. To the ladies I respect what you do and truely love your company.

Thank you

If I wasn't a married man I'd be happy to take my three ATFs anywhere, and the only reason I wouldn't explain our relationship to my family is that my family is made up of self-righteous, petty-minded individuals for whom all sex is filthy, and the holy office of matrimony the only thing that makes it acceptable. In other words, *they're* the ones who see sex as a grubby little transaction that never transcends "getting some pussy".

I, on the other hand, have had the good fortune to meet several women whose eroticism transcends the physical act by a long ways. I'm proud to call them my friends, and I get much the better end of the bargain. Like the man said, Money is how people with no talent keep score.

[QUOTE=MissMisty;1111185]Not a threat. Just the truth. You like streetwalkers which are much lower class than escorts and that's just sad and disgusting. You can't even get a room that's how cheap you are.[/QUOTE]According to the "norms" of society. Providers and those who see them are a very small percentage of the population as a whole and the rest see us as somethning less than normal. Doesn't matter if you make minimum wage or are rich or if you walk the street or work in Vegas this "business" is not accepetable except to those that are in it.

[QUOTE=Niceguy52;1111202]Dude you are way off base on this post. Misty is a wonderful LADY I love her company however I haven'are sent her in awhile she is first class, keep your working girl comments to the one's you see. She is defintely no that. If it takes you a week to see a provider hit washington street, seems more your style and your pennies you have. Lay off of her she's the best and and a complete lady I would take her any where with me.[/QUOTE]My comments are my opinions on escorts in general and this laughable idea of "respect". A true "Lady" does not sell her body. Have you introduced your "lady" to your family? Do they know you pay your "lady" for sex? I'm sure you haven't and no they don't. That is shame, not respect. As far as your pennies comment, not everyone is fortunate enough to be rolling in dough. You insulting me about it just shows arrogance.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1111244]My comments are my opinions on escorts in general and this laughable idea of "respect". A true "Lady" does not sell her body. Have you introduced your "lady" to your family? Do they know you pay your "lady" for sex? I'm sure you haven't and no they don't. That is shame, not respect. As far as your pennies comment, not everyone is fortunate enough to be rolling in dough. You insulting me about it just shows arrogance.[/QUOTE]Nothing on here worth getting going about. Problem is you all are bored. Nothing to do in Indiana this time of the year. Colts Suck, Pacers are a joke, Indiana BB blows, Purdue BB is 2nd fiddle.

Everyone is just feeling down. Understandable. But we should learn to control our emotions. Keep them in check. Sometimes breathing slowly helps. Or jerkinit. Or getting some on here. Its all good. Just Chill.

Just to be clear, I only pay for time and companionship with service providers. I never pay for sex, that's illegal, and immoral according to some.

BTW Misty, Ilapp and I just like using you as bait at strip clubs to get the hot girls. But perhaps I should post this in the Strip Clubs Reports section.

I have seen you before and can say I had a great time. Don"t lower yourself to his level by geting in a Pi$$ing contest with a street walker fan.

I have been getting some messages wondering why I hadn't come to the defense of my dear friend, companion, and occasional sex partner Misty, or when I would. As I told her, I think she was wrong to jump in here, not her fight, she missed the point that was being made, and as some of you know, well let's just say it was attaching your horse to the wrong cart. I may not agree with everything Chell said, but he has every right to say it here, once again, remember the stated purpose of the forum. I do respect many of the women that I know who are escorts that I know in many other ways than"professional", I did even figure out a way to invite one to Thanksgiving dinner with my family last year under the pretense, well, that is TMI, and she eventually declined, although I still enjoyed the "stuffing" that day immensely. God, I miss that woman. Trust me, just because they may sell their services, not their feelings or emotions, doesn't demean them as people; and to be very clear, the fact that the price schedule is much lower, doesn't by any stretch mean that women sometimes referred to as SWs are any less worthwhile as human beings than those that charge 10x as much, or even those that are "civilians" and don't charge per se at all. I have known some that are intelligent and good people, perhaps just situationally challenged. That being said, I have met Sws, escorts, dancers and civilians who weren't worth the air they waste. It is the same as in any walk of life, there is good and there is bad in people, what you do doesn't define all of what you are.

As has been discussed in private quite a bit, anytime the discussion is open to both sides of the fence, there is going to be times of intense friction, and the administration of this site can't completely control that in a forum such as this should he even attempt to do it. That can only be accomplished in a setting where the ability to post is controlled in a different way, in a manner that limits accessibility. So Chell has the right to say what he wants as long as it is within the parameters set, and any of us have the right to disagree or agree within those same parameters, in a reasonably civil manner. I in no way think that this is the end of this little flame up, but it might be a good eye opener, it certainly has confirmed a lot of things that I had suspected, true fellows?

HOW, yes we are users, sad to admit, but our little friend is great bait is she not, the only problem is we now may have to wrestle her for the catch, although sometimes the ride home is more fun that the night out. Time to catch up and share some holiday cheer friend, maybe do a little fishing.

It's hard enough in this hobby to find a comfortable date, I don't think I have time to slam the bad ones. I fully agree with Ilap they come from all walks of life. Either accept them or move on. There is no difference than the "Civi girls" we took out on a first date, spent $300 on her just so we can have a fun night, it hits your pocket either way.

[QUOTE=Willydog;1111236]To the ladies I respect what you do and truely love your company.[/QUOTE]But would you take them home to mom and confess what you do? I don't expect an answer. No one else I've asked this has answered either. Which of course gives the answer.

If I ever need a mediator for something I'm calling you.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1111647]But would you take them home to mom and confess what you do? I don't expect an answer. No one else I've asked this has answered either. Which of course gives the answer.[/QUOTE]I started this mess by saying we should show maturity and patience and to her we should show fairness and respect. It never dawned on me that would be controversial.

Chelli, no I would not take her home to mother and tell her what has been going on. My mother would not approve. She would be disappointed big time. Notice [I]my mother's reaction[/I] drives my decision.

By asking the question and based on Chelli's other comments it is clear he would not take her home to his mother either [I]because of his own non-approval[/I] of the very women he sees between the sheets or seats. That distinction is a big difference.

Nonetheless, I stick up for Chelli. He has a right to feel any way he wants.

I don't see a courtesan for "pussy". I don't see one to get something I can't get at home (other than variety). I see one to recharge my erotic batteries. I see one so that my fantasy life remains healthy and under my control. It doesn't require someone who simply gives a good blowjob; the most incredible blowjob I ever got in my life came at the end of a very lackluster session, and I've never seen the woman again. I require empathy, sensuality, good humor, and the ability to lose herself in the moment with me, first-class sexual skills, and my right to walk away when it's over, until the next time I call. She has to hold up her end of a conversation, be able to plan a party, and take responsibility for it being a success. She has to be "on" when it's convenient for me, not her. She has to handle her business like a professional, while performing a service which is the most personal thing on earth. She has to be a discreet as any attorney, as understanding as any psychiatrist, as clean and fresh as a personal assistant, and in good enough shape to go the distance, among other things.

To compare her to a streetwalker would be an insult of the first order, if it did not say more about the speaker than he intends, or maybe knows. There are people who prefer IHOP to fine dining, or whatever tripe comes out of their radios to Bach; that is their right. But when they insist no one else can tell the difference we call them impoverished, and that has nothing to do with money.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1111647]But would you take them home to mom and confess what you do? I don't expect an answer. No one else I've asked this has answered either. Which of course gives the answer.[/QUOTE]Chelli, whether I was dating a porn star, streetwalker, provider or dancer if I really liked her, I would take her home to mom. I would and did take mine home to mom. I was seeing a provider, she met my family, she had a regular job which is what my family knew about. No they didn't know she was a part time provider charging $$$ an hour. They also don't know that I like swing clubs, voyeurism, threesomes, sex in public, COF, COB, snowballing, etc. How many of us tell our mothers all about our sex lifes and sexual preferences. Some things are left alone in family discussions, that's why we have this board. On the back side selling sex for money is still considered wrong in this country, but remember that the buyers are also considered to be against society standards. So based on that, those that pay for sex are no better than those who sell it. Just my opinion. Respect is something I try to give to any walk of life, until they prove to me they don't deserve it.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1111649]If I ever need a mediator for something I'm calling you.[/QUOTE]Yes Chelli I do call him often for mediation. I use him to sugercoat my posts from time to time.

FF.

PS. Yes the provider I took home to mom had freckles and let me watch from time to time.

[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1111979]Chelli, whether I was dating a porn star, streetwalker, provider or dancer if I really liked her, I would take her home to mom. I would and did take mine home to mom. I was seeing a provider, she met my family, she had a regular job which is what my family knew about. No they didn't know she was a part time provider charging $$$ an hour. They also don't know that I like swing clubs, voyeurism, threesomes, sex in public, COF, COB, snowballing, etc. How many of us tell our mothers all about our sex lifes and sexual preferences. Some things are left alone in family discussions, that's why we have this board. On the back side selling sex for money is still considered wrong in this country, but remember that the buyers are also considered to be against society standards. So based on that, those that pay for sex are no better than those who sell it. Just my opinion. Respect is something I try to give to any walk of life, until they prove to me they don't deserve it.

Yes Chelli I do call him often for mediation. I use him to sugercoat my posts from time to time.

FF.

PS. Yes the provider I took home to mom had freckles and let me watch from time to time. [/QUOTE]I have to agree with chilli on this provider client friendship stuff. That friendship stuff is mostly a fantasy. If there was a way to prove it. I would guess that if things changed on either end. Client lost his job. No money. Or provider got married or for what ever reason the pussy dried up. 95% of the time that friendship would dry up quick. Its all about pussy for money. No real friendship involved. The friendship is a fantasy. Its business of course if both parties pretend to be friends. It makes the transaction go smother. Like any business transaction. Thats like somebody saying I'm personal friends with the bar owner. Well if you go in there twice a week and spend $200 you certainly are his friend. He may even tell people you are a friend of his. If he sales the bar or you loose your job. A year later will you guys be setting in your underwear watching a ball game no. Business friendships are not like other types of friendships. They dry up as soon as the business is over on either side. I've been or thought I was friends with many providers over the years. For what ever reason it eventfully ends. And you really don't give a shit about them or them you. If a provider is seeing 10 regular friends. The odds on them still speaking in five years is very slim. In five years she will have 10 new friends. And you will have 3 new atf. I think this board goes back at least 10 years. If you read back 5 years or farther. You will see how many times these friends and atf, s have changed. Some of us have been here 10 years or longer. Like me and chilli. But I don't never remember a provider being here much over a year. This basically is a mans forum. And always has been. These women come in for usually some where between a month. And a year. And every time they start expressing there side. We end up with this kind of hostility here. I've seen it for at least 10 years on here. They come and go. The only real friendship made here is between the men. Me and chilli have been friends because of this forum for years. We really do hang out at each others houses. With no cash exchanging hands.

[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1111979]Chelli, whether I was dating a porn star, streetwalker, provider or dancer if I really liked her, I would take her home to mom. I would and did take mine home to mom. I was seeing a provider, she met my family, she had a regular job which is what my family knew about. No they didn't know she was a part time provider charging $$$ an hour. They also don't know that I like swing clubs, voyeurism, threesomes, sex in public, COF, COB, snowballing, etc. How many of us tell our mothers all about our sex lifes and sexual preferences. Some things are left alone in family discussions, that's why we have this board. On the back side selling sex for money is still considered wrong in this country, but remember that the buyers are also considered to be against society standards. So based on that, those that pay for sex are no better than those who sell it. Just my opinion. Respect is something I try to give to any walk of life, until they prove to me they don't deserve it.

Yes Chelli I do call him often for mediation. I use him to sugercoat my posts from time to time.

FF.

PS. Yes the provider I took home to mom had freckles and let me watch from time to time. [/QUOTE]I sure do tell my father about it all.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1111720]By asking the question and based on Chelli's other comments it is clear he would not take her home to his mother either because of his own non-approval of the very women he sees between the sheets or seats. That distinction is a big difference.[/QUOTE]No, I wouldn't take one home to mom. But I wholeheartedly approve of providers. I have used their services for a long time. I think this "business" should be legalized. My disapproval is of the absurd escalation in escort rates and the arrogance of those who look down on others because see they can no longer afford to play at that level. Also the arrogance of gals and guys that play at that level and think they are better, or classier, than everybody else. Look up the meaning of the word wh**e (I am NOT calling anyone that) and you will see it applies to both gals and guys that partake in this business. It makes no distiction of economic level. This business is not approved of by 99% of society so we are all seen in a bad light. It doesn't matter what one charges, what one pays or what any individual's self perception is of their "classiness" society views us all the same.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1112006]No, I wouldn't take one home to mom. But I wholeheartedly approve of providers. I have used their services for a long time. I think this "business" should be legalized. My disapproval is of the absurd escalation in escort rates and the arrogance of those who look down on others be / see they can no longer afford to play at that level. Also the arrogance of gals and guys that play at that level and think they are better, or classier, than everybody else. Look up the meaning of the word working girl (I am NOT calling anyone that) and you will see it applies to both gals and guys that partake in this business. It makes no distiction of economic level. This business is not approved of by 99% of society so we are all seen in a bad light. It doesn't matter what one charges, what one pays or what any individual's self perception is of their "classiness" society views us all the same.[/QUOTE]Another thing I've noticed over the last decade here. Is every time a provider starts getting in to a loud pissing match with seniors on here. Even if she's right and I agree with her. Still when it starts getting to loud. Even if she does have 2 or 3 members supporting her. They still disappear. So I'm assuming that since Jackson is a man. And started and runs this for men to help other men get laid. As soon as it starts getting to off track. He makes the provider go poof. Then it gets back on track until next year when another loud favored by 3 providers comes along. Then it all repeats again. Seen it going on for 10 years. Pretty much the same every time. You have one loud provider. 3 regulars taking her side. 30 guys that don't see her emailing Jackson telling him to ban her. I'm sure thats whats going on behind the scenes right now. We have 3 guys waving these girls flags. And 30 or 50 readers that are telling Jackson to end this crap. And naturally he isn't going to end by banning 30 or 50 men. He is going to end by banning the provider with 15 post. I've noticed that over the last 10 years. Time and time again. I even suspect that some of the men that openly wav these girls flags. And openly side with them. Are doing it for a little discount on the booty. Then behind the scenes the same guys are messaging Jackson saying get rid of this loud mouth.

No matter what a provider says about companionship and friendship, this is a business to make as much money as they can. I also think that the screening process of any lady in this biz could be circumvented if a hobbyist can provide proof that he can layout a large enough sum of money. I think all of the safety concerns go out the window if a hobbyist is will to pay 4 times the hourly rate for anonymity. Would I be willing to test this theory? Maybe? If I did I would make a report here and give all details. Fair Enough?

[QUOTE=Nells M All;1112013]Another thing I've noticed over the last decade here. Is every time a provider starts getting in to a loud pissing match with seniors on here. Even if she's right and I agree with her. Still when it starts getting to loud. Even if she does have 2 or 3 members supporting her. They still disappear. So I'm assuming that since Jackson is a man. And started and runs this for men to help other men get laid. As soon as it starts getting to off track. He makes the provider go poof. Then it gets back on track until next year when another loud favored by 3 providers comes along. Then it all repeats again. Seen it going on for 10 years. Pretty much the same every time. You have one loud provider. 3 regulars taking her side. 30 guys that don't see her emailing Jackson telling him to ban her. I'm sure thats whats going on behind the scenes right now. We have 3 guys waving these girls flags. And 30 or 50 readers that are telling Jackson to end this crap. And naturally he isn't going to end by banning 30 or 50 men. He is going to end by banning the provider with 15 post. I've noticed that over the last 10 years. Time and time again. I even suspect that some of the men that openly wav these girls flags. And openly side with them. Are doing it for a little discount on the booty. Then behind the scenes the same guys are messaging Jackson saying get rid of this loud mouth.[/QUOTE]I'm still here and I still think Chelli is a jerk.

No amount of money is worth risking safety in my opinion.

[QUOTE=MissMisty;1112205]I'm still here and I still think Chelli is a jerk.[/QUOTE]My posts are my opinions and not directed at individuals. I could easily come up with some choice names for you gals that stoop to insulting me cause I speak the truth. My comments have been my thoughts on the absurdity of escort rates and their arrogance in thinking that they are worth it. You mentioned in an earlier post that you often see your "friends" with no sex expected or implied. I don't doubt that. But I also know you are getting paid for that. Anyone that defines and accepts that as friendship is a bit out of touch with what friendship means and is. In reality if you spend time with a friend no payment is requested, expected or made.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1112380]My posts are my opinions and not directed at individuals. I could easily come up with some choice names for you gals that stoop to insulting me cause I speak the truth. My comments have been my thoughts on the absurdity of escort rates and their arrogance in thinking that they are worth it. You mentioned in an earlier post that you often see your "friends" with no sex expected or implied. I don't doubt that. But I also know you are getting paid for that. Anyone that defines and accepts that as friendship is a bit out of touch with what friendship means and is. In reality if you spend time with a friend no payment is requested, expected or made.[/QUOTE]Chelli, aren't you done yet? I'm tired of your rambling about what you think the "truth" is and acting like you're the helpless victim just defending yourself. Get over yourself. No one cares about your philosophy on life.

This forum is for spreading helpful information to other like-minded individuals. Flare ups happen on any board, but when they drag on and on, it gets old fast. Please, lets move on to new business.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1112006]It doesn't matter what one charges, what one pays or what any individual's self perception is of their "classiness" society views us all the same.[/QUOTE]Society does like the stories about the high end escorts much more than the low end. Could it be that the high end are tied to the bigger fish and the low end are closer to the common working man. I think so. Follow the big money and you will find the men that the press loves to talk about. Do you remember the names of the escorts who were tied to Eliot Spitzer, Charlie Sheen, James Dobson, Tiger Woods, etc, the answer is no. Society however will never forget the men and their transgressions.

FF.

PS. I like the fact that freckles come in all economic levels.

I must admit that this has to be one of the longest, least entertaining, dull, most grammatically correct, respectful (based on previous heated discussions on this site,) debates I've ever read.

I use my phone to read and post to this site and if I'm going to strain my eyes reading these small words, I'd rather be reading about pussy than who is the bigger one.

So with that said, let's help the issue more productively. Can each gent post their current ATF that is available for under $$?

I personally would love to know as well.

This board is starting to be painful to read. Let's get back to the mission at hand.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1112407]Chelli, aren't you done yet? [/QUOTE]You don't like someones posts, don't read them.

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1111784]I don't see a courtesan for "pussy". I don't see one to get something I can't get at home (other than variety). I see one to recharge my erotic batteries. I see one so that my fantasy life remains healthy and under my control. It doesn't require someone who simply gives a good blowjob; the most incredible blowjob I ever got in my life came at the end of a very lackluster session, and I've never seen the woman again. I require empathy, sensuality, good humor, and the ability to lose herself in the moment with me, first-class sexual skills, and my right to walk away when it's over, until the next time I call. She has to hold up her end of a conversation, be able to plan a party, and take responsibility for it being a success. She has to be "on" when it's convenient for me, not her. She has to handle her business like a professional, while performing a service which is the most personal thing on earth. She has to be a discreet as any attorney, as understanding as any psychiatrist, as clean and fresh as a personal assistant, and in good enough shape to go the distance, among other things.

To compare her to a streetwalker would be an insult of the first order, if it did not say more about the speaker than he intends, or maybe knows. There are people who prefer IHOP to fine dining, or whatever tripe comes out of their radios to Bach; that is their right. But when they insist no one else can tell the difference we call them impoverished, and that has nothing to do with money. [/QUOTE]Now you are bashing IHOP? You have gone too far! Happy Holidays everyone and hopefully a great 2011, at least better than 2010! Ladies; THANK YOU!

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1111649]If I ever need a mediator for something I'm calling you.[/QUOTE]I am a poor negotiator, I am merely, as FF said a mediocre sugar-coater, and even that gets it rammed in your ass it seems, so you would be better off not calling me for that. You also shouldn't call me for a reference to see Misty, because after my last post it has been made clear that neither one of us will be doing anything there. I think that maybe FF should never listen to me, leave the governor off and just go full bore, because it is obvious my method isn't very effective and gets you just as much shit as just throwing it down.

What started as a pissing match between a couple of members and a bitching provider, AutumnF if I remember right, not to be confused with AutumnSkyy here, who is a real sweetheart by the way, has turned out some good thoughts. B Beals post is as good as one can be, hit it out of the park, GC was his usual good self, FF had some very good points, Ape was his usual funny self,Nells threw in some worth, and Chell provided some posts that really provokes some good thought and reflection. Hell, even my old friend, ROR, who like Misty won't talk to me anymore, was moved to join the fray. Another casualty he was of this exact kind of conflict.

I has typed a long post about society and how it views many of us, of the value of friends I have met in the hobby, provider and client alike, how many of the people I have met are far superior as humans than many civies could dream to be, people of better character in spite of their sexual activities than many who portray to be "good" people, people from all walks of life and social status and how it is a shame that they be denigrated because of how they conduct their sexual activities; but then my login timed out, and my heart just wasn't in it after I got back in, Nells post had came up and made me think some more, and with what was alluded to here I began to think maybe he was more on point than I, maybe it is all a charade, just a dance we do, I didn't think I would ever believe it, but now I am not so sure. I am done, I am tired of listening to me, I think I need to give myself a timeout.

[QUOTE=Ilapp; 1112627]Nells post had came up and made me think some more, and with what was alluded to here I began to think maybe he was more on point than I, maybe it is all a charade, just a dance we do, I didn't think I would ever believe it, but now I am not so sure. I am done, I am tired of listening to me, I think I need to give myself a timeout.

Not to be confused with AutumnSkyy here, who is a real sweetheart by the way,

[/QUOTE]I agree my friend it's now ripe for a time out. Let's put this behind us and take Ape Man's advice and get back to the business of this forum. Escort Reports. That being said.

So AutumnSkyy is a sweatheart huh? From her posts she is a redhead. I bet she has freckles and once again you did not tell me anything about them. You need to make a new years resolution to NOT forget me when it comes to freckles. I released you, but when you mention a redhead on this board and don't tell me about it, then my sugarcoating is washed away. So when do we get a review from you on this sweetheart?

FF.

PS. Let me know if and where her freckles are.

[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1112654]I agree my friend it's now ripe for a time out. Let's put this behind us and take Ape Man's advice and get back to the business of this forum. Escort Reports. That being said.

So AutumnSkyy is a sweatheart huh? From her posts she is a redhead. I bet she has freckles and once again you did not tell me anything about them. You need to make a new years resolution to NOT forget me when it comes to freckles. I released you, but when you mention a redhead on this board and don't tell me about it, then my sugarcoating is washed away. So when do we get a review from you on this sweetheart?

FF.

PS. Let me know if and where her freckles are. [/QUOTE]The wise man once said. All women are at ecept for mom and dad will argue that with me.

I'm not a bitchy provider. Get your facts straight. You know nothing about me. It clearly said "for escort provider ads" not anything else. I'm not wrong for correcting him. BTW Nells never inboxed me so Chelli was more than wrong on that part. Nells could have never PMed him & told him that bold faced l*

[QUOTE=Ilapp; 1112627]I am a poor negotiator, I am merely, as FF said a mediocre sugar-coater, and even that gets it rammed in your ass it seems, so you would be better off not calling me for that. You also shouldn't call me for a reference to see Misty, because after my last post it has been made clear that neither one of us will be doing anything there. I think that maybe FF should never listen to me, leave the governor off and just go full bore, because it is obvious my method isn't very effective and gets you just as much shit as just throwing it down.

What started as a pissing match between a couple of members and a bitching provider, AutumnF if I remember right, not to be confused with AutumnSkyy here, who is a real sweetheart by the way, has turned out some good thoughts. B Beals post is as good as one can be, hit it out of the park, GC was his usual good self, FF had some very good points, Ape was his usual funny self, Nells threw in some worth, and Chell provided some posts that really provokes some good thought and reflection. Hell, even my old friend, ROR, who like Misty won't talk to me anymore, was moved to join the fray. Another casualty he was of this exact kind of conflict.

I has typed a long post about society and how it views many of us, of the value of friends I have met in the hobby, provider and client alike, how many of the people I have met are far superior as humans than many civies could dream to be, people of better character in spite of their sexual activities than many who portray to be "good" people, people from all walks of life and social status and how it is a shame that they be denigrated because of how they conduct their sexual activities; but then my login timed out, and my heart just wasn't in it after I got back in, Nells post had came up and made me think some more, and with what was alluded to here I began to think maybe he was more on point than I, maybe it is all a charade, just a dance we do, I didn't think I would ever believe it, but now I am not so sure. I am done, I am tired of listening to me, I think I need to give myself a timeout. [/QUOTE]

Has anyone seen her before? She is on e. Com but doesn't seem to have any info / ads elsewhere. Seems to travel from Indy to Carmel to Lafayette a lot so I'm interested in any experiences. We have had some good convo through email but I want to see if I can get an idea first.

Ty in advance if anyone knows anything.

ILapp,

I was one of those reviewing the two sided personality of AF, while supporting the valuable misty. In my opinion, this board is about sharing personal experiences with the ladies, good or bad. I try not to contribute unless I have something to ad relating to the intent of the board. What I don't like reading is philosophical opinions as to whether there is a difference between a street walker and an escort. Each is clearly entitled to their opinion, and have spent three pages of posts expressing them.

So I am guilty as charged for not looking at the context of the discussion when jumping in and providing my personal experiences. Half the time I type on this board I've let a few cold ones kick in. So. Long story short "team" I apologize for my contribution to this brain cell damaging conversation.

As I stated in an earlier post, maybe we can help chilli (sp) find an affordable, good experience in the escort world since it's obviously too cold for the SW's to be out and about.

Regards

[QUOTE=Ilapp; 1112627]I am a poor negotiator, I am merely, as FF said a mediocre sugar-coater, and even that gets it rammed in your ass it seems, so you would be better off not calling me for that. You also shouldn't call me for a reference to see Misty, because after my last post it has been made clear that neither one of us will be doing anything there. I think that maybe FF should never listen to me, leave the governor off and just go full bore, because it is obvious my method isn't very effective and gets you just as much shit as just throwing it down.

What started as a pissing match between a couple of members and a bitching provider, AutumnF if I remember right, not to be confused with AutumnSkyy here, who is a real sweetheart by the way, has turned out some good thoughts. B Beals post is as good as one can be, hit it out of the park, GC was his usual good self, FF had some very good points, Ape was his usual funny self, Nells threw in some worth, and Chell provided some posts that really provokes some good thought and reflection. Hell, even my old friend, ROR, who like Misty won't talk to me anymore, was moved to join the fray. Another casualty he was of this exact kind of conflict.

I has typed a long post about society and how it views many of us, of the value of friends I have met in the hobby, provider and client alike, how many of the people I have met are far superior as humans than many civies could dream to be, people of better character in spite of their sexual activities than many who portray to be "good" people, people from all walks of life and social status and how it is a shame that they be denigrated because of how they conduct their sexual activities; but then my login timed out, and my heart just wasn't in it after I got back in, Nells post had came up and made me think some more, and with what was alluded to here I began to think maybe he was more on point than I, maybe it is all a charade, just a dance we do, I didn't think I would ever believe it, but now I am not so sure. I am done, I am tired of listening to me, I think I need to give myself a timeout. [/QUOTE]

Long tome member first post! Too much drama and not enough compassion! We ars all looking to fill a void and have fun doing it! I have been married to one of the best providers ever! I don't advise ever doing it but I don't regret what we had! There are many lovely ladies I have been with but few that really hit the mark!

Just my 2 cents

[QUOTE=Ilapp; 1112627]You also shouldn't call me for a reference to see Misty, because after my last post it has been made clear that neither one of us will be doing anything there. Chell provided some posts that really provokes some good thought and reflection. Hell, even my old friend, ROR, who like Misty won't talk to me anymore, was moved to join the fray.

Nells post had came up and made me think some more, and with what was alluded to here I began to think maybe he was more on point than I, maybe it is all a charade, just a dance we do, I didn't think I would ever believe it, but now I am not so sure. I am done, I am tired of listening to me, I think I need to give myself a timeout. [/QUOTE]I already knew misty would never see me but no loss there. If she ended your "friendship" because you agreed that I have a right to post my opinions then she has no comprehension of being a friend. Friends disagree all the time. Real friends understand this and don't go off pouting beacuse of a difference of opinion. She's acting like a 6 year old. Let her take her pussy and go play by herself. She also proves the thought that 99% of provider / monger relationships are pretty much a charade. Yes they can be a lot of fun. Yes they can be friendly. But are they honest friendships? No. I don't need misty and neither do you. Since you have the ability to see escorts you will have no problem replaciing her if you choose to do so. She on the other hand might have some difficulty with her "power of the pussy" attitude. She'll undoubtedly find plenty of takers while she's young but youth doesn't last forever. And how many will get tired of her along the way. Plenty, believe me.

[QUOTE=Autumn F;1112751]BTW Nells never inboxed me so Chelli was more than wrong on that part. Nells could have never PMed him & told him that bold faced l*[/QUOTE]Check YOUR facts. No one ever said Nells PM'ed you. I tried to PM you and your mailbox was full and when I posted to tell you that you've been full of hate and insults ever since. And why couldn't Nells PM me? I manage my mailbox the right way.

OMG Ilapp, I am as tired of this, as you are. I was going to say let's vote on whether Nells and Chelli have the right to express their opinion; or whether Autumn F is a bitchy provider; or whether Misty only sees guys for money and is not a friend to anyone; or that you are a mediator and I am a freak (ok we all know I am a freak) ; but it would only continue this battle. It's time to take this fight to the PM realm of this board. If you want to fight, PM each other. Let's move on.

Now for a new discussion: Here is my list of the top five ATF "very freckled" providers.

1. Trish of Lansing fame. No longer providing service, but was a redheaded freckled Lacy. I thought I was a freak until I met her. Hey Fudge what do you think, top five for you too?

2. Stephanie of Oregon and St. Louis. No longer providing. Hot and sensual. My first true trip to freckleville.

3. Chrissy of St. Pete and now Baltimore. Short stint as a porn star, loved COF, believe it or not she was Religious and thought her profession was a divine calling. She is on e. Com.

4. Megan of Dayton. No longer providing, hot and wild, but loved her dope more than herself. Loved snowballing and COF.

5. Mary. Very freckled local sensual massage provider. Once worked at a 86th and Michigan road massage establishment. UTR but has come out recently under handles on this board. The best freckles, breasts and nipples in town. Biggest issue was that her love of snow and attitude affected her reliability and customer relations. From what I hear now, she Paypals for services not provided.

Ones I wish I can try in the future:

1. Ella. One of the elves. This is the hottest freckled woman provider today. Now in KC. You can find her on eccie. With or without freckles, this woman is hot! I asked you mongers to e-mail her, to get her to travel here. No luck.

2. Allison Wyte. Porn star in LA. The most freckled woman I have ever seen someone have sex with. Unfortunately it was not me having the sex. She was on backpage for a while and had her own website. A lucky monger on this board did see her in LA, you SOB.

3. Lauriejean2010 of Wichita KS. On e. Com. I really like her freckles. I really would like to connect the dots.

4. Angela at Rio. This woman is covered head to toe in freckles. She even has them on the palms of her hands. I have reported on her before, right HOW! She likes to hang out, not take out. Not sure what that means but will keep trying.

There was a dancer I knew who became a model on "Americas Next Top Model". Name was Crystal. Hot, long red hair, a Cheetah's girl, best VIP room ever. I posted her picture here awhile ago.

This is only a list of my "very freckled" providers. There is one that has a few freckles on her back and shoulders, but I don't consider her a very freckled woman. She is by far one of the best providers I have ever met and she used to be in town. Sensory, god you are good and a wonderful lady as well. If you ever want to tie me up and make me watch you have sex, it's ok with me. Just don't make me wear earplugs, cause I love the sounds you make.

OK, so I hope this helps change the subject. Anyone else have some choices?

FF.

PS. Can't forget Holly's Hobby who is out of business and did tie me up and let me watch. Nice freckles and really knew how to take care of me after she was done. Three hours later!

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1111784]I don't see a courtesan for "pussy". I don't see one to get something I can't get at home (other than variety). I see one to recharge my erotic batteries. I see one so that my fantasy life remains healthy and under my control. It doesn't require someone who simply gives a good blowjob; the most incredible blowjob I ever got in my life came at the end of a very lackluster session, and I've never seen the woman again. I require empathy, sensuality, good humor, and the ability to lose herself in the moment with me, first-class sexual skills, and my right to walk away when it's over, until the next time I call. She has to hold up her end of a conversation, be able to plan a party, and take responsibility for it being a success. She has to be "on" when it's convenient for me, not her. She has to handle her business like a professional, while performing a service which is the most personal thing on earth. She has to be a discreet as any attorney, as understanding as any psychiatrist, as clean and fresh as a personal assistant, and in good enough shape to go the distance, among other things.

To compare her to a streetwalker would be an insult of the first order, if it did not say more about the speaker than he intends, or maybe knows. There are people who prefer IHOP to fine dining, or whatever tripe comes out of their radios to Bach; that is their right. But when they insist no one else can tell the difference we call them impoverished, and that has nothing to do with money.[/QUOTE]Well said- you sir have class.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1112971]Check YOUR facts. No one ever said Nells PM'ed you. I tried to PM you and your mailbox was full and when I posted to tell you that you've been full of hate and insults ever since. And why couldn't Nells PM me? I manage my mailbox the right way.[/QUOTE]Chilli asked me if I had a picture of Autumn F. I thought I did I think it was a classy one. Like standing in a bathroom mirror holding a call phone. And not showing her face. But I can't find it. Her food stamps must have ran out. She's back. I thought I seen her working west 10th the other day but I'm not sure. Because that bathroom cell phone pic don't show her face.