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Film...great post but, dude, please, proofread the thing before posting! I had to go thru it three times just to make sense of the story...I think you must have gotten so much in a hurry to post your thoughts got ahead of your fingers. :-)
Thanks in advance!
~wk
[QUOTE=Rwk3137]In Orlando for business last couple of days, got some slack Saturday afternoon and drove N on Orange Blossom Trail. Picked up a nice looking hispanic girl who said her name was "Janice" - Long legs, short skirt and 35C's. Found her doing the stroll on North Orange Blossom Trail around the McD's (900 Block).
BBBJCIM - for 20 and it was all good. Some LE around but not much, as it was around 4PM.
Wish I had some more time here - looks like there could be some good hunting here.
Be Safe and Careful[/QUOTE]Did she have on a short black skirt? I saw her walking between the Circle K and the Saturn Dealership. I tried to loop around without being too obvious about it and couldn't find her again. If that's the one I am thinking of she was extremely hot looking. This was about 1am Sunday so it might not be the same one.
[QUOTE=Who Knows]Film...great post but, dude, please, proofread the thing before posting! I had to go thru it three times just to make sense of the story...I think you must have gotten so much in a hurry to post your thoughts got ahead of your fingers. :-)
Thanks in advance!
~wk[/QUOTE]Sorry I am Dyslexic, I try but I don't see my mistakes when I read them! I will try better next time! I will put in word.doc. Hold it for a day. then read out loud back to myself! Sorry!!! Just trying to do my best to report what I see!!!!
I do understand though! I will do better next time!
So what the deal in fron of K-Mart? I was driving by about 4-5 and saw lots of hot bodies. Some seam to good to be true. Was on the job so couldn't stop.
Next Night I went buy and saw lot of 18 wheeler types parked there. is that a sting area?
Some of the women I saw between K-mart and the Express looked to good to be true however they were picked up before I could go around for a second look.
[QUOTE=Blackhawk 101]So what the deal in fron of K-Mart? I was driving by about 4-5 and saw lots of hot bodies. Some seam to good to be true. Was on the job so couldn't stop.
Next Night I went buy and saw lot of 18 wheeler types parked there. is that a sting area?
Some of the women I saw between K-mart and the Express looked to good to be true however they were picked up before I could go around for a second look.[/QUOTE]
When I was in town I though it was a sting too. So I got me something to eat and parked in the lot where I could see things. There were some nice looking sw's being picked up. On my way to the airport I ending picking up a bsw out there. I got her just before another monger could.
This area is a bit questionable and here’s why. First, the girls that work that area and south to the turnpike most of the time expect high dollars ($-$$). These girls also work as escorts and advertise on CL and in the papers. So you may see a real hot SW, but she may be a high price worker that hasn’t received any calls for awhile, so she hits OBT for some quick coin. I don’t ever pick up the “too good to be true girls” in this area.
Personally I think if I am paying $$ for a date, she better be in my room and have a nice hot shower before anything happens and it better be 2 hr GFE.
I also don’t pick them up for the second reason; LE likes to place undercover in this area or have a busted escort play redirect for them. Here is how it goes down: You see her and nod, she nods back. Next, you pull over but she comes to the driver window of the car to talk. This breaks carnal rule #1, never talk to a SW before she gets in your car. Once she is at your car window she tells you to meet her at the ****** (pick you favorite hotel) and she will be in room *** (pick a room number / normally second floor). Once you get into the room you are either busted by Leo or busted by her pimp boyfriend.
Two years ago I fell for this trick and talked to a SW at a gas station. I asked her for directions and she started talking to me about meeting at her room. I told her I didn’t know what she was talking about and pulled off. Before I could get two blocks away, two LE’s had me pulled over and questioned me about my business for 20mins. I stuck to my guns and kept telling them I was just asking for directions. By the time I was home, the PD had called my house and spoke to my girlfriend about the situation. Just an FYI, if you ever get questioned by LEO about anything like this. Call your lawyer and have him file a harassment charge against all parties involved. It may not make you any money, but it sure did piss off the 7 cops that were subpoenaed to show up at the courthouse. Anyway that’s another story for another day.
So for the record, two things can happen at the K south, you can pay out the A for some stuck-up SW who gives non-enthusiastic service. Or you could end up cuffed in the back of a patty wagon. My preference is to stick with the regular girls farther north on OBT.
I know others have their opinions and that’s totally OK, this is mine and that’s all it is, my opinion.
As always, be safe and happy hunting,
T69
First off Tribal, great post (as are all your reports/advice I've seen)!
[QUOTE=Tribal69]By the time I was home, the PD had called my house and spoke to my girlfriend about the situation. [/QUOTE]This is freakin alarming and annoying, but believable knowing LE. Sad that they sunk that low in your case with such little evidence against you. It is word to the wise nonetheless and thanks for reminding us of this outcome. It is always paramount to stick to a non-incriminating story too!
[QUOTE=Tribal69]LE likes to place undercover in this area or have a busted escort play redirect for them. [/QUOTE]This is a technicality that I'd like to discuss further, because I've rarely seen this scenario talked about much in any of the SW subforums I've perused around the country.
[u][b]Background:[/b][/u] It is pretty widely known (by seasoned mongers) that a female LE decoy will usually not get in your car (usually).
However, what is the likely MO for busted escorts/SWs who are assisting LE? Do the same safety concerns on the part of LE apply (for the girl not to get in the car)? Or will they usually allow a busted snitch to get in your car (making mongers vulnerable from our biggest protection layer: the passenger door)?
I'd like to know people's knowledge specifically with respect to the likelihood of a SW LE cohort getting into the car. Forgive me if this subtopic has already been discussed elsewhere. I would love a link to that discussion if anyone has seen it before.
Monday Night I was driving down Edgewater and saw a cute little WSW hanging south of Lee, white T and back shorts. I passed her 2 times and got a good eye full. She was very light skinned and thin. Nice breast and long straight hair. I pulled over a block off Edge and she hopped in, no LE game, no questions. She looked at me and asked if I was a cop and then leaned over, unzipped my shorts and began giving a BBBJ.
Then pop’s up and asks what I want. I tell her everything and I meant “everything”.
She asked does everything include Greek? I say sure and she says .50, but we need somewhere special for that. So I swing to my fav no-tell, we hop out, get a room and once in she strips and begins undressing me. She is in 8 of 10 shape, nice shaved kitty, clean, and has a ton of piercing (her lip, tongue, nipples, belly button and hood). 5’7, light skin/no tan lines, hair is well kept, cloths are nice.
First thing was she sat on the side of the bed and starts lapping at me C, she is very experienced at BJ. I almost blew in her mouth, so after a bit I have her stop, get my hat on and she climbs on and grins for 5mins. We then do Rev CG, so I grab some lube and begin playing with her A. She tells me to be nice and she might let me put something in there. Next, we move to doggie and I keep playing with her A. She tells me if I want that she will run the show and puts me on my back. She then straddles me and pushed my head on her A. OMG, it was great….this lasted for about 10mins.
The whole time she is pulling on her nips and other rings (so was I). She also was doing this great fake moan. Then I ask her if I can do her Greek doggie and she agrees. She hops off and during the switch the Hat breaks. I was pissed. It was our only one. So she looks at me and gives me this o-well comment and I ask her for a BBBJCIMWS. She says she won’t due a WS, but will let me CIM.
So we finish it up with a nice CIM and she doesn’t stop till every drop is gone.
We clean up, pay up and then head out. She is a little hottie and hangs out in that area a lot. I saw her last week, but someone else snagged her. She said her name is Page.
Be safe hunters….LE was everywhere,
Tribal
Had some work in town this morning so I hit Old Cheney on the way home. Saw Heather, a WSW, late 30's, brown hair, 5' 9", not a complete cracked out frame, but thin. Still had some nice 34b's and not so bad teeth. I pulled over and she jumped in, and off we went. She was really paranoid about LE, even after a double LE check she was worried. I think she was tweaking abit from lack of smokes. I told her to relax and we would go somewhere safe. We agreed on .30 for a non-rushed h/h FS, but needed somewhere to do the deed. She had a room at the Crossland Extended Stay, but said I would have to give her .20 extra to go there. I agreed and off we went.
When we got to the room, she asked for the .20 up front so she could give it to her room mate. I didn’t have a problem with that, if this is her room, she is not going to do a dash on me. So I gave her the .20 and her room mate and her walked to the hall talked for a minute, came back and asked me if I wanted to play with both of them. The room mate, Monica, is an early 20’s, WSW, red curly hair, kinda chunky, but cute. I asked how much more, and they said .80 for the two of them, I countered at .60 and they took the offer.
Within 2 minutes of us getting to the room, there was a knock on the door. A hot looking black chick came in and said hi, there was an exchange of some cash and crack, then off the black chick went. They are both crack heads and the .20 room fee was so they could get high before we began. I told them I was not in a rush and they could take their time. We sat down on the coach and they blazed on their pipes for a few minutes, then the cloths were all shredded and the fun began.
They had me sit on the coach while they double BBBJ’d me. Both are good and took turns on my sack and the Monica even spread my A and licked my spider-bite. After a bit we began some tag team (covered) R-CG and some doggie, then moved to some mish. After 25mins of fun, they needed a break to smoke. I sat there and watched them smoke and play with each other, but kept thinking about the hot black chick that stopped by earlier. I asked them about her and they said she is just a courier for her BF and doesn’t walk. After their break, they got back to some BBBJ, till I blew my load down Heather’s throat. Monica seemed almost upset that I didn’t give it to her.
I told them they could keep playing with me and use me as their toy, Monica said ok and began a very personal BBBJ, with lots of ball play. I didn’t tell them, but I was jacked up on Levitra and knew I would be hard within seconds. I told Monica that this was the best BJ I have ever had (really it was a 7 of 10). So Heather got back into the action and they took turns attempting to out do the other. It was like war of the bobble head. After 20mins I told them I was going to blow and this time I gave it to Monica and she did a robo-vac on me till I was dry. Wow – what a finish she could give.
They smoked more and I got dressed, paid them the .60 and when I began to head out the door they wanted me to stay. I told them I had to go, plus my wallet was empty, but gave them my SW only cell phone number (they don’t have any digits someone stole their cell). I told them to call me once they got a number or if they wanted to play again Wed or Thurs.
I will say, unless you are a custom to being around SW when they smoke, don’t do it. It can become a wild trip right into hell. So be careful when hanging out with smokers that are tweaking or getting high.
As always – be safe,
Tribal
[QUOTE=Tyler D]....
...
This is a technicality that I'd like to discuss further, because I've rarely seen this scenario talked about much in any of the SW subforums I've perused around the country.
[u][b]Background:[/b][/u] It is pretty widely known (by seasoned mongers) that a female LE decoy will usually not get in your car (usually).
However, what is the likely MO for busted escorts/SWs who are assisting LE? Do the same safety concerns on the part of LE apply (for the girl not to get in the car)? Or will they usually allow a busted snitch to get in your car (making mongers vulnerable from our biggest protection layer: the passenger door)?
I'd like to know people's knowledge specifically with respect to the likelihood of a SW LE cohort getting into the car. Forgive me if this subtopic has already been discussed elsewhere. I would love a link to that discussion if anyone has seen it before.[/QUOTE]
Here are my thoughts:
Does LE care about busted escorts or a snitch? No
Are they willing to endanger bustees for a bigger fish? Yes
What if the snitch helped in busting Johns along the way of catching big fish (whatever the big fish was? drug dealer, pimp, traffickers, Thugs, highly wanted...etc.) without blowing the undercover operation.
Also, LE's do mistakes. I have heard from working girls about under-covers who enters Johns cars.
In conclusion;
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3280&page=1&pp=15] rules[/url] are not perfect but they are very good guides. It is better to be safe than sorry.
This is why I have added my thoughts to the 22 rules and posted few guides making them 24 or more
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=510318&postcount=44[/url]
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS - Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy... On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
* but if the girl is not uncle Leo's daughter and they are using her to bust dr*g dealers p*mps and John along the way just ask where do you wanna go open a conversation, she'll qualify you...
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view - you can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, without a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick - she doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
J
I agree to the highest level. Stick with the basic rules and they can't get you.
It's when we think with our little head that it all falls apart.
Be Safe,
Tribal
[QUOTE=Orlando J]Here are my thoughts:
Does LE care about busted escorts or a snitch? No
Are they willing to endanger bustees for a bigger fish? Yes
What if the snitch helped in busting Johns along the way of catching big fish (whatever the big fish was? drug dealer, pimp, traffickers, Thugs, highly wanted...etc.) without blowing the undercover operation.
Also, LE do mistakes. I have heard from working girls about under-covers who enters Johns cars.
In conclusion;
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3280&page=1&pp=15] rules[/url] are not perfect but they are very good guides. It is better to be safe than sorry.
This is why I have added my thoughts to the 22 rules and posted few guides
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=510318&postcount=44[/url]
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS - Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy... On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
* but if the girl is not uncle Leo's daughter and they are using her to bust dr*g dealers p*mps and John along the way just ask where do you wanna go open a conversation, she'll qualify you...
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view - you can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick - she doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on![/QUOTE]
Hey, Sports Fans! With the draft coming up this month, thought I would hold my own "scouting combine" at the legendary OBT Field. Have been reading up on some of the prospects, so I wanted to check them out first hand.
Soon as I hit the field at around 8:30 Friday night. BAM, two mid first rounders, right by the Toys R Us banner. By the time I could turn to get a closer look, they were both getting in a golf cart. Kept going, POW. Several more first rounders, all before the 20 yard line (SandLake logo). Thinking there were higher first round picks around, I kept on going. Saw a few early second rounders by the Circuit City sign, but kept on. By midfield (Dollhouse logo), they were starting to deteriorate. Mostly very late round selections, and undrafted free agents (and some that should be playing RUGBY). Should have stopped there because after that, all the way to the 408 sign, UGGGGHHH! THIS IS WHY WE NEED STIFFER DRUG PENALTIES IN SPORTS! Went back to the previous action spots to check, but it had really died down. Lots of prospects, upwards of 40 over several hours, but very few servicable players. As I was about to call it a night, saw a definite top 10 pick right in front of my lockerroom. She came over and after a brief chat, went in for a formal interview. V
Hey, Sports Fans! With the draft coming up this month, thought I would hold my own "scouting combine" at the legendary OBT Field. Have been reading up on some of the prospects, so I wanted to check them out first hand.
Soon as I hit the field at around 8:30 Friday night. BAM, two mid first rounders, right by the Toys R Us banner. By the time I could turn to get a closer look, they were both getting in a golf cart. Kept going, POW. Several more first rounders, all before the 20 yard line (SandLake logo). Thinking there were higher first round picks around, I kept on going. Saw a few early second rounders by the Circuit City sign, but kept on. By midfield (Dollhouse logo), they were starting to deteriorate. Mostly very late round selections, and undrafted free agents (and some that should be playing RUGBY). Should have stopped there because after that, all the way to the 408 sign, UGGGGHHH! THIS IS WHY WE NEED STIFFER DRUG PENALTIES IN SPORTS! Went back to the previous action spots to check, but it had really died down. Lots of prospects, upwards of 40 over several hours, but very few servicable players. As I was about to call it a night, saw a definite top 10 pick right in front of my lockerroom. She came over and after a brief chat, went in for a formal interview. Trim, nice body, good personality, very professional. Would definitely make any team better. Fitted her for a new mouthpiece while giving a physical exam, and she passed with flying colors.
Went back out Saturday. Much of the same. Saw a nice looking, tight assed, Hooter's girl (literally: little orange short shorts and very form fitting white t shirt). Very nice looking, but really cold acting. Watched for a little while, wouldn't even look at guys that tried to say Hi. Just went flossin around so everyone could see her. She must have walked up and down the field for two or three hours. Whatever. Did see her finally on the back of a motorcycle. Saw an incredible little sweety in a little jersey up to her navel (WOW, what legs). Came up to sideline at the Best Buy banner and wanted to get in my cart right there. Told her I'd circle around and naturally, spent the rest of the friggin day looking for her. DAMMMM. Later, saw a really nice looking little spinner from Friday night that had disappeared before I could get to her. Little Cuban American hottie. Got in and and agreed to a little one on one meeting. Went to the HQ and she agreed to be fitted for mouthpiece, and had no problem disrobing for the exam. Umm, had a baby 11 months ago and still much saggy in the abs and the pecs. Looks awesome with her clothes on though. Still a very nice interview. Pretty dead the rest of the night. All told about 30 prospects in several hours, but only about 8-10 that were draft worthy.
Went back Sunday and it had dried up considerably. Very few prospects. I guess the Wrestlemania dudes scooped them up for the afterparty. Saw my little Cubanita, and the Hooters girl (same attitude, not paying anyone attention at all). She sat on a bus stop until dude walked up. They talked a little bit then left in his BMW. So I guess she is in play, but who know$$$. After that absolutely nothing the rest of the night.
As a side note, did see many Big Apple cabs parked around. One in front of the bowling alley facing OBT for at least three hours. Had blacked out windows, no cab number on the side, had a spotlight on the drivers side by the mirror, and what looked like a baseball cap over where the meter would be on the dash. If I sit that long would prob have light on reading or something, but this one was really dark inside and the windows stayed rolled up. Most of the other cabs had very light or no tint, rolled down windows and middle eastern drivers. Probably nothing, but just enough to make you go hmmmmm.
LE as a whole not really bad at all. A few here and there, but no harrassing or stings I saw. Not paying attention to any activity, surprised there wasn't more upscale providers.
That's about it. Sorry so long, but wanted to be thorough for those that coudn't be there. Take care.
[QUOTE=Tribal69]This area is a bit questionable and here’s why. First, the girls that work that area and south to the turnpike most of the time expect high dollars ($-$$). These girls also work as escorts and advertise on CL and in the papers. So you may see a real hot SW, but she may be a high price worker that hasn’t received any calls for awhile, so she hits OBT for some quick coin. I don’t ever pick up the “too good to be true girls” in this area.
Personally I think if I am paying $$ for a date, she better be in my room and have a nice hot shower before anything happens and it better be 2 hr GFE.
I also don’t pick them up for the second reason; LE likes to place undercover in this area or have a busted escort play redirect for them. Here is how it goes down:[color=red]You see her and nod, she nods back. Next, you pull over but she comes to the driver window of the car to talk. This breaks carnal rule #1, never talk to a SW before she gets in your car. [/color] Once she is at your car window she tells you to meet her at the ****** (pick you favorite hotel) and she will be in room *** (pick a room number / normally second floor). Once you get into the room you are either busted by Leo or busted by her pimp boyfriend.
Two years ago I fell for this trick and talked to a SW at a gas station. I asked her for directions and she started talking to me about meeting at her room. I told her I didn’t know what she was talking about and pulled off. Before I could get two blocks away, two LE’s had me pulled over and questioned me about my business for 20mins. I stuck to my guns and kept telling them I was just asking for directions. By the time I was home, the PD had called my house and spoke to my girlfriend about the situation. Just an FYI, if you ever get questioned by LEO about anything like this. Call your lawyer and have him file a harassment charge against all parties involved. It may not make you any money, but it sure did piss off the 7 cops that were subpoenaed to show up at the courthouse. Anyway that’s another story for another day.
So for the record, two things can happen at the K south, you can pay out the A for some stuck-up SW who gives non-enthusiastic service. Or you could end up cuffed in the back of a patty wagon. My preference is to stick with the regular girls farther north on OBT.
I know others have their opinions and that’s totally OK, this is mine and that’s all it is, my opinion.
As always, be safe and happy hunting,
T69[/QUOTE]
I was tested with Rule #1.
I saw this bsw out on the OBT / Kmart area on my pass though and then again on by way back. I think this was somewhere between 1 and 3 am. I went to make the pick up, she comes to my passenger window and I asked if she needed a ride. She comes back with what are you looking for. I said I was just asking if you needed a ride, do you. I don't think she was LE. She was probably one of those CL girls and thought I was LE and wanted me to commit first. But me and the little head teamed up and did not break Rule #1. She again said what you are looking for. I said you don’t need a ride and she finally said no and I pulled off.
I have lost out on many of pick ups because I would not do business though the passenger window or making sure the area is clean before stopping and have not regretted doing so.
[QUOTE=Tribal69]Monday Night I was driving down Edgewater and saw a cute little WSW hanging south of Lee, white T and back shorts. I passed her 2 times and got a good eye full. She was very light skinned and thin. Nice breast and long straight hair. I pulled over a block off Edge and she hopped in, no LE game, no questions. She looked at me and asked if I was a cop and then leaned over, unzipped my shorts and began giving a BBBJ.
Then pop’s up and asks what I want. I tell her everything and I meant “everything”.
She asked does everything include Greek? I say sure and she says .50, but we need somewhere special for that. So I swing to my fav no-tell, we hop out, get a room and once in she strips and begins undressing me. She is in 8 of 10 shape, nice shaved kitty, clean, and has a ton of piercing (her lip, tongue, nipples, belly button and hood). 5’7, light skin/no tan lines, hair is well kept, cloths are nice.
First thing was she sat on the side of the bed and starts lapping at me C, she is very experienced at BJ. I almost blew in her mouth, so after a bit I have her stop, get my hat on and she climbs on and grins for 5mins. We then do Rev CG, so I grab some lube and begin playing with her A. She tells me to be nice and she might let me put something in there. Next, we move to doggie and I keep playing with her A. She tells me if I want that she will run the show and puts me on my back. She then straddles me and pushed my head on her A. OMG, it was great….this lasted for about 10mins.
The whole time she is pulling on her nips and other rings (so was I). She also was doing this great fake moan. Then I ask her if I can do her Greek doggie and she agrees. She hops off and during the switch the Hat breaks. I was pissed. It was our only one. So she looks at me and gives me this o-well comment and I ask her for a BBBJCIMWS. She says she won’t due a WS, but will let me CIM.
So we finish it up with a nice CIM and she doesn’t stop till every drop is gone.
We clean up, pay up and then head out. She is a little hottie and hangs out in that area a lot. I saw her last week, but someone else snagged her. She said her name is Page.
Be safe hunters….LE was everywhere,
Tribal[/QUOTE]
I might make a trip for that!