Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Branman;5378212]Boy. Due September 3rd. Kaylove has an active facebook account and wanted me to come on here an ask mongerers.
[/QUOTE]Did Maury say you are the father?

[QUOTE=BengalMan;5378458]Did Maury say you are the father?[/QUOTE]It's a shame that so many women get into the hobby to strictly feed there addiction and at one time.

Kaylove / Kelsie was one of them. She has been out of the game for a bit now. And ever since leaving she has.

Managed to get clean and is seemingly on the right path. And it's kind of hard to go onto the Maury show when the baby hasn't even been born yet. I shockingly did not meet kaylove / Kelsie on here. She was openly telling her past to me.

[QUOTE=Branman;5378212]Boy. Due September 3rd. Kaylove has an active facebook account and wanted me to come on here an ask mongerers.

To leave her alone. Cause apparently some have tried to contact her via Facebook. Despite showing on her Facebook she is in a relationship.[/QUOTE]I don't do Facebook but just a little FYI. Most provider are in a relationship doesn't stop them from fucking for the money.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;5378458]Did Maury say you are the father?[/QUOTE]Just googled him and his show is still going, since the 90's. And his old lady Connie Chung, 74 but an asian 74. I'd be willing to bet she's still serviceable enough to be on our Chester rd asian rotation or Sakura.

[QUOTE=Branman;5378212]Boy. Due September 3rd. Kaylove has an active facebook account and wanted me to come on here an ask mongerers.

To leave her alone. Cause apparently some have tried to contact her via Facebook. Despite showing on her Facebook she is in a relationship.[/QUOTE]Facebook has some solid privacy options, you know, including creating a new profile and locking the old one. Congrats to you and the little lady. The odds aren't stacked in your favor, but crazier shit has happened.

The fact that she hasn't wholly disassociated herself from any identities that mongers know about would make me think she's keeping her options open. Just saying.

[QUOTE=Aztekk;5375159]All wise words.

However, have you ever caught feelings for a working girl? Be honest.

(there may a duplicate message, I unsuccessfully replied to you before this post).[/QUOTE]I may like some more than others but I can't see any chick who mounts multiple cocks a day as relationship material. You have to be pretty twisted in the head to choose this career path. Even the high end ones.

[QUOTE=Aztekk;5374798]But be honest, have you ever caught feelings for a working girl?[/QUOTE]This is a laughable notion.

Every working girl is doing this to feed a habit. They would literally incall in your house if you were gone long enough. Let's not mention, steal things, pawn them in, have anyone over, friends doing drugs, deals, ect.

On the high end, where drugs and lack of money may not be an issue, there's still the fact unless she's certified nympho, a sexworker probably sees sex 100% as a transaction, and unenjoyable. Even in a legit relationship, sex is something she "has" to do to maintain her relationship, and means nothing. Even if she only did an *.

So, the mental defenses I have, I know they are going to be a POS as a person, or a robot. Neither of these things matter if you look at them as only a SW (sexworker). Her being a POS doesn't affect you, nor does her dislike of servicing. She simply has to do her job.

Also you need to read some sexworker subs, posts by the ones that aren't addled up by drugs, and can for coherent thoughts. You really wouldn't want to have anything to do with a sexworker.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy011;5381514]This is a laughable notion.

Every working girl is doing this to feed a habit. They would literally incall in your house if you were gone long enough. Let's not mention, steal things, pawn them in, have anyone over, friends doing drugs, deals, ect.

On the high end, where drugs and lack of money may not be an issue, there's still the fact unless she's certified nympho, a sexworker probably sees sex 100% as a transaction, and unenjoyable. Even in a legit relationship, sex is something she "has" to do to maintain her relationship, and means nothing. Even if she only did an *.

So, the mental defenses I have, I know they are going to be a POS as a person, or a robot. Neither of these things matter if you look at them as only a SW (sexworker). Her being a POS doesn't affect you, nor does her dislike of servicing. She simply has to do her job.

Also you need to read some sexworker subs, posts by the ones that aren't addled up by drugs, and can for coherent thoughts. You really wouldn't want to have anything to do with a sexworker.[/QUOTE]Couple of things.

1) I've been friends with SW for quite awhile. One of my closest friends when living in California use to visit gentlemen. It is how we met. She ended up having a key to my house. Never had anything stolen. In fact many times the house would be incredibly clean when I returned. So no not EVERY WORKING GIRL is feeding a habit.

2) you're view point shows you have just as big a problem as they do. Many of the ones I've been lucky enough to know have been unbelievably great as friends. Most actually enjoy dealing with men who actually treat them normal.

[QUOTE=Aztekk;5375159]All wise words.

However, have you ever caught feelings for a working girl? Be honest.

(there may a duplicate message, I unsuccessfully replied to you before this post).[/QUOTE]How many reviews stop short of the part where the guy goes out to his car feeling used and crying, post-nut? You're all among mature friends here. No one's going to take cheap shots at you.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5382064]How many reviews stop short of the part where the guy goes out to his car feeling used and crying, post-nut? You're all among mature friends here. No one's going to take cheap shots at you.[/QUOTE]Don't go there! I can tell you hours of stories of guys who let these girls into their personal life and all got screwed royal. The exception is if you know a girl already in your personal life and you find out they sell pussy. Now does anyone feel like this-as soon as I hit my nut the first thing on my mind is getting away. And then the self loathing sets in like after masturbation.

Okay. I'll bite. Have I ever caught "feelings" for a girl in this hobby? Yup! We can't help our feelings. But I try to be a rational person nevertheless.

When I first started doing this, I would develop a fondness, let's say, for certain girls, who I would see several times. But at the end of the day, I was just masturbating inside someone else, so to speak. So the fondness I felt was not really emotional or anything, but just a recognition that I liked ejaculating into the hole attached to a girl who let me pay for it.

But then that all changed the moment I first kissed Thalia. Everything about her felt different, especially the emotional part. Past reviews have talked about how her body looks. Lots of tats, baby damage, small boobs. Before I met her, these bodily traits would have been really important for me. But like I said, something about this girl is just different or special somehow, at least to me. I don't think about these physical traits when I think of her. I think of [I]her[/I]. It's hard to describe. I have thought a lot about this and can't quite put the words to it.

When I walk into the room and wrap my arms around her, it is like I feel a warmth that breathes into my core. Just holding her and kissing her make me feel incredible. Obviously there is the sex stuff. No one has ever made me feel like she does in that department. I enjoy talking to her between rounds. I like listening about her plans and her life. I just like [I]her[/I], very much. It doesn't make sense to me and I don't know where it comes from. I have no illusions about this, either. It's not like she calls me up when she's bored to come have me hang out for free. I know that. I don't need any lectures on that front. She is still the most amazing person I have met. My life is enriched from the experience of having her in it.

I remember the first time I saw a girl advertising her Amazon wishlist, and I thought, "What kind of idiot is out here buying gifts for these girls?" But I get it now. I sometimes try to get her something. It makes me feel better. I'm not being tricked or anything. I honestly feel like she deserves it. I pay her more than I pay anyone else, and I always walk away like I didn't pay enough.

I'm not one to tamp down my natural emotions. Maybe this is a simple case of just really liking how she touches my dick. Maybe, as a man, I really am that simple. Maybe her pheromones are the exact shape of my receptor cells, or however that shit works. LOL. Maybe, in an alternate reality where I'm younger, single, and have a bigger dick, we are a legitimate match for some reason. Who knows. What I do know is that I have intense emotional responses to this woman, and I am not afraid to admit it.

I know lots of guys are going to make fun of me for this post, so really I'm writing for all the guys who are like me but won't admit it. It probably happens more than we think. We are human, after all, and we are hardwired to associate sex with some kind of affection.

Also, like my screen name implies, I pretty much stick to black women. In my experience, they are not addicted to heroin and losing their teeth, so maybe that feeds into some of this, too. I probably wouldn't feel this way about some junkie.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;5382988]Okay. I'll bite. Have I ever caught "feelings" for a girl in this hobby? Yup! We can't help our feelings. But I try to be a rational person nevertheless.

When I first started doing this, I would develop a fondness, let's say, for certain girls, who I would see several times. But at the end of the day, I was just masturbating inside someone else, so to speak. So the fondness I felt was not really emotional or anything, but just a recognition that I liked ejaculating into the hole attached to a girl who let me pay for it.

But then that all changed the moment I first kissed Thalia. Everything about her felt different, especially the emotional part. Past reviews have talked about how her body looks. Lots of tats, baby damage, small boobs. Before I met her, these bodily traits would have been really important for me. But like I said, something about this girl is just different or special somehow, at least to me. I don't think about these physical traits when I think of her. I think of [I]her[/I]. It's hard to describe. I have thought a lot about this and can't quite put the words to it.

When I walk into the room and wrap my arms around her, it is like I feel a warmth that breathes into my core. Just holding her and kissing her make me feel incredible. Obviously there is the sex stuff. No one has ever made me feel like she does in that department. I enjoy talking to her between rounds. I like listening about her plans and her life. I just like [I]her[/I], very much. It doesn't make sense to me and I don't know where it comes from. I have no illusions about this, either. It's not like she calls me up when she's bored to come have me hang out for free. I know that. I don't need any lectures on that front. She is still the most amazing person I have met. My life is enriched from the experience of having her in it.

I remember the first time I saw a girl advertising her Amazon wishlist, and I thought, "What kind of idiot is out here buying gifts for these girls?" But I get it now. I sometimes try to get her something. It makes me feel better. I'm not being tricked or anything. I honestly feel like she deserves it. I pay her more than I pay anyone else, and I always walk away like I didn't pay enough.[/QUOTE]Its been awhile since I've been on this forum but I've experienced what you talk about with Cristen Cremes. I fell madly in love with the women and as many of you on here are aware it did not go well and I reacted very badly which I regret. Had Cristen remained true to her promises we would likely be married now. Unfortunately she didn't and things fell apart. She was a good woman but regardless I believe she had been in the trade too long to quit. My advice. Don't fall in love with a long time provider.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;5382988]Okay. I'll bite. Have I ever caught "feelings" for a girl in this hobby? Yup! We can't help our feelings. But I try to be a rational person nevertheless.

When I first started doing this, I would develop a fondness, let's say, for certain girls, who I would see several times. But at the end of the day, I was just masturbating inside someone else, so to speak. So the fondness I felt was not really emotional or anything, but just a recognition that I liked ejaculating into the hole attached to a girl who let me pay for it.

But then that all changed the moment I first kissed Thalia. Everything about her felt different, especially the emotional part. Past reviews have talked about how her body looks. Lots of tats, baby damage, small boobs. Before I met her, these bodily traits would have been really important for me. But like I said, something about this girl is just different or special somehow, at least to me. I don't think about these physical traits when I think of her. I think of [I]her[/I]. It's hard to describe. I have thought a lot about this and can't quite put the words to it.

When I walk into the room and wrap my arms around her, it is like I feel a warmth that breathes into my core. Just holding her and kissing her make me feel incredible. Obviously there is the sex stuff. No one has ever made me feel like she does in that department. I enjoy talking to her between rounds. I like listening about her plans and her life. I just like [I]her[/I], very much. It doesn't make sense to me and I don't know where it comes from. I have no illusions about this, either. It's not like she calls me up when she's bored to come have me hang out for free. I know that. I don't need any lectures on that front. She is still the most amazing person I have met. My life is enriched from the experience of having her in it.

I remember the first time I saw a girl advertising her Amazon wishlist, and I thought, "What kind of idiot is out here buying gifts for these girls?" But I get it now. I sometimes try to get her something. It makes me feel better. I'm not being tricked or anything. I honestly feel like she deserves it. I pay her more than I pay anyone else, and I always walk away like I didn't pay enough.

I'm not one to tamp down my natural emotions. Maybe this is a simple case of just really liking how she touches my dick. Maybe, as a man, I really am that simple. Maybe her pheromones are the exact shape of my receptor cells, or however that shit works. LOL. Maybe, in an alternate reality where I'm younger, single, and have a bigger dick, we are a legitimate match for some reason. Who knows. What I do know is that I have intense emotional responses to this woman, and I am not afraid to admit it.

I know lots of guys are going to make fun of me for this post, so really I'm writing for all the guys who are like me but won't admit it. It probably happens more than we think. We are human, after all, and we are hardwired to associate sex with some kind of affection.

Also, like my screen name implies, I pretty much stick to black women. In my experience, they are not addicted to heroin and losing their teeth, so maybe that feeds into some of this, too. I probably wouldn't feel this way about some junkie.[/QUOTE]I really appreciate this post. Thank you. I'm already finding myself emotionally attracted to a provider, and I've only been at this a short few months. It's crazy, because the logical side of me knows a lot better. But as you point out, we can't help our feelings. We can only take a breath, smack ourselves metaphorically across the face a couple / few times, and hope that it stays tamped down.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5382064]How many reviews stop short of the part where the guy goes out to his car feeling used and crying, post-nut? You're all among mature friends here. No one's going to take cheap shots at you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Holdrhem;5382109]Don't go there! I can tell you hours of stories of guys who let these girls into their personal life and all got screwed royal. The exception is if you know a girl already in your personal life and you find out they sell pussy. Now does anyone feel like this-as soon as I hit my nut the first thing on my mind is getting away. And then the self loathing sets in like after masturbation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;5382988]Okay. I'll bite. Have I ever caught "feelings" for a girl in this hobby? Yup! We can't help our feelings. But I try to be a rational person nevertheless.

When I first started doing this, I would develop a fondness, let's say, for certain girls, who I would see several times. But at the end of the day, I was just masturbating inside someone else, so to speak. So the fondness I felt was not really emotional or anything, but just a recognition that I liked ejaculating into the hole attached to a girl who let me pay for it.

But then that all changed the moment I first kissed Thalia. Everything about her felt different, especially the emotional part. Past reviews have talked about how her body looks. Lots of tats, baby damage, small boobs. Before I met her, these bodily traits would have been really important for me. But like I said, something about this girl is just different or special somehow, at least to me. I don't think about these physical traits when I think of her. I think of [I]her[/I]. It's hard to describe. I have thought a lot about this and can't quite put the words to it.

When I walk into the room and wrap my arms around her, it is like I feel a warmth that breathes into my core. Just holding her and kissing her make me feel incredible. Obviously there is the sex stuff. No one has ever made me feel like she does in that department. I enjoy talking to her between rounds. I like listening about her plans and her life. I just like [I]her[/I], very much. It doesn't make sense to me and I don't know where it comes from. I have no illusions about this, either. It's not like she calls me up when she's bored to come have me hang out for free. I know that. I don't need any lectures on that front. She is still the most amazing person I have met. My life is enriched from the experience of having her in it.

I remember the first time I saw a girl advertising her Amazon wishlist, and I thought, "What kind of idiot is out here buying gifts for these girls?" But I get it now. I sometimes try to get her something. It makes me feel better. I'm not being tricked or anything. I honestly feel like she deserves it. I pay her more than I pay anyone else, and I always walk away like I didn't pay enough.

I'm not one to tamp down my natural emotions. Maybe this is a simple case of just really liking how she touches my dick. Maybe, as a man, I really am that simple. Maybe her pheromones are the exact shape of my receptor cells, or however that shit works. LOL. Maybe, in an alternate reality where I'm younger, single, and have a bigger dick, we are a legitimate match for some reason. Who knows. What I do know is that I have intense emotional responses to this woman, and I am not afraid to admit it.

I know lots of guys are going to make fun of me for this post, so really I'm writing for all the guys who are like me but won't admit it. It probably happens more than we think. We are human, after all, and we are hardwired to associate sex with some kind of affection.

Also, like my screen name implies, I pretty much stick to black women. In my experience, they are not addicted to heroin and losing their teeth, so maybe that feeds into some of this, too. I probably wouldn't feel this way about some junkie.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Catlikr;5383365]Its been awhile since I've been on this forum but I've experienced what you talk about with Cristen Cremes. I fell madly in love with the women and as many of you on here are aware it did not go well and I reacted very badly which I regret. Had Cristen remained true to her promises we would likely be married now. Unfortunately she didn't and things fell apart. She was a good woman but regardless I believe she had been in the trade too long to quit. My advice. Don't fall in love with a long time provider.[/QUOTE]Didn't expect some actual soul baring. I was laughing when I posted that invite about post-nut confessions. And now. This section is called the octagon after all. Try not to take any incoming 'eat shit' s personally. > LOL

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5383758]Didn't expect some actual soul baring. I was laughing when I posted that invite about post-nut confessions. And now. This section is called the octagon after all. Try not to take any incoming 'eat shit' s personally. > LOL[/QUOTE]I am just fucking shocked. So today I learned that half you guys in Cincy are in love with hookers! I got nothin. Good luck I guess.

Good to see you back on the forum IlvblckGrls. Now we know you've been gone planning a divorce and wedding. lol